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    You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it?
    John Pilger
    April 30, 2012


    http://infowars.com/you-are-all-susp...to-do-about-it

    You are all potential terrorists. It matters not that you live in Britain, the United States, Australia or the Middle East. Citizenship is effectively abolished. Turn on your computer and the US Department of Homeland Security’s National Operations Center may monitor whether you are typing not merely “al-Qaeda”, but “exercise”, “drill”, “wave”, “initiative” and “organisation”: all proscribed words. The British government’s announcement that it intends to spy on every email and phone call is old hat. The satellite vacuum cleaner known as Echelon has been doing this for years. What has changed is that a state of permanent war has been launched by the United States and a police state is consuming western democracy.

    What are you going to do about it?

    In Britain, on instructions from the CIA, secret courts are to deal with “terror suspects”. Habeas Corpus is dying. The European Court of Human Rights has ruled that five men, including three British citizens, can be extradited to the US even though none except one has been charged with a crime. All have been imprisoned for years under the 2003 US/UK Extradition Treaty which was signed one month after the criminal invasion of Iraq. The European Court had condemned the treaty as likely to lead to “cruel and unusual punishment”. One of the men, Babar Ahmad, was awarded 63,000 pounds compensation for 73 recorded injuries he sustained in the custody of the Metropolitan Police. Sexual abuse, the signature of fascism, was high on the list. Another man is a schizophrenic who has suffered a complete mental collapse and is in Broadmoor secure hospital; another is a suicide risk. To the Land of the Free, they go – along with young Richard O’Dwyer, who faces 10 years in shackles and an orange jump suit because he allegedly infringed US copyright on the internet.

    As the law is politicised and Americanised, these travesties are not untypical. In upholding the conviction of a London university student, Mohammed Gul, for disseminating “terrorism” on the internet, Appeal Court judges in London ruled that “acts… against the armed forces of a state anywhere in the world which sought to influence a government and were made for political purposes” were now crimes. Call to the dock Thomas Paine, Aung San Suu Kyi, Nelson Mandela.

    What are you going to do about it?


    The prognosis is clear now: the malignancy that Norman Mailer called “pre fascist” has metastasized. The US attorney-general, Eric Holder, defends the “right” of his government to assassinate American citizens. Israel, the protege, is allowed to aim its nukes at nukeless Iran. In this looking glass world, the lying is panoramic. The massacre of 17 Afghan civilians on 11 March, including at least nine children and four women, is attributed to a “rogue” American soldier. The “authenticity” of this is vouched by President Obama himself, who had “seen a video” and regards it as “conclusive proof”. An independent Afghan parliamentary investigation produces eyewitnesses who give detailed evidence of as many as 20 soldiers, aided by a helicopter, ravaging their villages, killing and raping: a standard, if marginally more murderous US special forces “night raid”.

    Take away the videogame technology of killing – America’s contribution to modernity – and the behaviour is traditional. Immersed in comic-book righteousness, poorly or brutally trained, frequently racist, obese and led by a corrupt officer class, American forces transfer the homicide of home to faraway places whose impoverished struggles they cannot comprehend. A nation founded on the genocide of the native population never quite kicks the habit. Vietnam was “Indian country” and its “slits” and “gooks” were to be “blown away”.

    The blowing away of hundreds of mostly women and children in the Vietnamese village of My Lai in 1968 was also a “rogue” incident and, profanely, an “American tragedy” (the cover headline of Newsweek). Only one of 26 men prosecuted was convicted and he was let go by President Richard Nixon. My Lai is in Quang Ngai province where, as I learned as a reporter, an estimated 50,000 people were killed by American troops, mostly in what they called “free fire zones”. This was the model of modern warfare: industrial murder.

    Like Iraq and Libya, Afghanistan is a theme park for the beneficiaries of America’s new permanent war: Nato, the armaments and hi-tech companies, the media and a “security” industry whose lucrative contamination is a contagion on everyday life. The conquest or “pacification” of territory is unimportant. What matters is the pacification of you, the cultivation of your indifference.

    What are you going to do about it?

    The descent into totalitarianism has landmarks. Any day now, the Supreme Court in London will decide whether the WikiLeaks editor, Julian Assange, is to be extradited to Sweden. Should this final appeal fail, the facilitator of truth-telling on an epic scale, who is charged with no crime, faces solitary confinement and interrogation on ludicrous sex allegations. Thanks to a secret deal between the US and Sweden, he can be “rendered” to the American gulag at any time. In his own country, Australia, prime minister Julia Gillard has conspired with those in Washington she calls her “true mates” to ensure her innocent fellow citizen is fitted for his orange jump suit just in case he should make it home. In February, her government wrote a “WikiLeaks Amendment” to the extradition treaty between Australia and the US that makes it easier for her “mates” to get their hands on him. She has even given them the power of approval over Freedom of Information searches – so that the world outside can be lied to, as is customary.

    What are you going to do about it?

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    Default Re: You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it? -- JOHN PILGER

    a sad state when the authorities CAN change the laws to "catch the one that got away" when the existing laws were already too much

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    Default Re: You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it? -- JOHN PILGER

    What are you going to do about it?

    i'm going to continue doing what i can't seem to help not doing -- running my big political mouth

    i tell women w/children in public schools, esp elementary schools, about the bit in the Patriot Act which rules that if there is some national disaster/emergency, their children can be loaded on to busses & transported to locations unknown

    i still try to get them to look at chemtrails

    when someone tells me of a local death of a soldier in Iraq or Afghanistan, i say, 'There goes another useless death to make rich men richer'

    etc, etc

    i also am conducting my own private running poll on how many people have seen a UFO -- a whole lot of people have, & there's a lot of interest in them -- i don't believe that stuff about the Human race falling apart when they learn that we are not alone

    i pray a lot


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    You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it?
    John Pilger
    April 30, 2012


    http://infowars.com/you-are-all-susp...to-do-about-it

    You are all potential terrorists. It matters not that you live in Britain, the United States, Australia or the Middle East. Citizenship is effectively abolished. Turn on your computer and the US Department of Homeland Security’s National Operations Center may monitor whether you are typing not merely “al-Qaeda”, but “exercise”, “drill”, “wave”, “initiative” and “organisation”: all proscribed words. The British government’s announcement that it intends to spy on every email and phone call is old hat. The satellite vacuum cleaner known as Echelon has been doing this for years. What has changed is that a state of permanent war has been launched by the United States and a police state is consuming western democracy.

    What are you going to do about it?

    In Britain, on instructions from the CIA, secret courts are to deal with “terror suspects”. Habeas Corpus is dying. The European Court of Human Rights has ruled that five men, including three British citizens, can be extradited to the US even though none except one has been charged with a crime. All have been imprisoned for years under the 2003 US/UK Extradition Treaty which was signed one month after the criminal invasion of Iraq. The European Court had condemned the treaty as likely to lead to “cruel and unusual punishment”. One of the men, Babar Ahmad, was awarded 63,000 pounds compensation for 73 recorded injuries he sustained in the custody of the Metropolitan Police. Sexual abuse, the signature of fascism, was high on the list. Another man is a schizophrenic who has suffered a complete mental collapse and is in Broadmoor secure hospital; another is a suicide risk. To the Land of the Free, they go – along with young Richard O’Dwyer, who faces 10 years in shackles and an orange jump suit because he allegedly infringed US copyright on the internet.

    As the law is politicised and Americanised, these travesties are not untypical. In upholding the conviction of a London university student, Mohammed Gul, for disseminating “terrorism” on the internet, Appeal Court judges in London ruled that “acts… against the armed forces of a state anywhere in the world which sought to influence a government and were made for political purposes” were now crimes. Call to the dock Thomas Paine, Aung San Suu Kyi, Nelson Mandela.

    What are you going to do about it?


    The prognosis is clear now: the malignancy that Norman Mailer called “pre fascist” has metastasized. The US attorney-general, Eric Holder, defends the “right” of his government to assassinate American citizens. Israel, the protege, is allowed to aim its nukes at nukeless Iran. In this looking glass world, the lying is panoramic. The massacre of 17 Afghan civilians on 11 March, including at least nine children and four women, is attributed to a “rogue” American soldier. The “authenticity” of this is vouched by President Obama himself, who had “seen a video” and regards it as “conclusive proof”. An independent Afghan parliamentary investigation produces eyewitnesses who give detailed evidence of as many as 20 soldiers, aided by a helicopter, ravaging their villages, killing and raping: a standard, if marginally more murderous US special forces “night raid”.

    Take away the videogame technology of killing – America’s contribution to modernity – and the behaviour is traditional. Immersed in comic-book righteousness, poorly or brutally trained, frequently racist, obese and led by a corrupt officer class, American forces transfer the homicide of home to faraway places whose impoverished struggles they cannot comprehend. A nation founded on the genocide of the native population never quite kicks the habit. Vietnam was “Indian country” and its “slits” and “gooks” were to be “blown away”.

    The blowing away of hundreds of mostly women and children in the Vietnamese village of My Lai in 1968 was also a “rogue” incident and, profanely, an “American tragedy” (the cover headline of Newsweek). Only one of 26 men prosecuted was convicted and he was let go by President Richard Nixon. My Lai is in Quang Ngai province where, as I learned as a reporter, an estimated 50,000 people were killed by American troops, mostly in what they called “free fire zones”. This was the model of modern warfare: industrial murder.

    Like Iraq and Libya, Afghanistan is a theme park for the beneficiaries of America’s new permanent war: Nato, the armaments and hi-tech companies, the media and a “security” industry whose lucrative contamination is a contagion on everyday life. The conquest or “pacification” of territory is unimportant. What matters is the pacification of you, the cultivation of your indifference.

    What are you going to do about it?

    The descent into totalitarianism has landmarks. Any day now, the Supreme Court in London will decide whether the WikiLeaks editor, Julian Assange, is to be extradited to Sweden. Should this final appeal fail, the facilitator of truth-telling on an epic scale, who is charged with no crime, faces solitary confinement and interrogation on ludicrous sex allegations. Thanks to a secret deal between the US and Sweden, he can be “rendered” to the American gulag at any time. In his own country, Australia, prime minister Julia Gillard has conspired with those in Washington she calls her “true mates” to ensure her innocent fellow citizen is fitted for his orange jump suit just in case he should make it home. In February, her government wrote a “WikiLeaks Amendment” to the extradition treaty between Australia and the US that makes it easier for her “mates” to get their hands on him. She has even given them the power of approval over Freedom of Information searches – so that the world outside can be lied to, as is customary.

    What are you going to do about it?

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    Default Re: You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it? -- JOHN PILGER

    This comes to mind Bill. I think its time. Indeed, Strength in numbers. I will apply my war paint if necessary.

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    Default Re: You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it? -- JOHN PILGER

    Since we can't FIRE our senators and congressmen because it's in the Constitution, what I'd like to see is when their terms are completed that they're recalled to their states to face treason charges. Their names would be on record for what they voted illegally into law and therefore, they should face criminal charges. I personally don't want to hear their BS lies. And you know that they'll be singing like birds and making deals to save their a**es from going to prison....

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    Default Re: You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it? -- JOHN PILGER

    i'm going to wait for the alien invasion

    and the ascendancy of antichrist

    then i'm going to refuse his chip

    and probably be put away


    but behold i won a soul

    and there is no hellfire here

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    Default Re: You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it? -- JOHN PILGER

    I will help in protecting the tribe. For They haven't seen my Dark Side as of Yet.

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    I will help in protecting the tribe. For They haven't seen my Dark Side as of Yet.

    I love you White Feather!!!

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    Default Re: You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it? -- JOHN PILGER

    <sigh>


    This kind of **** can really drag down one's spirit. I'm tired of fighting the goddamn dark bastard elites who relentlessly push their systems of tyranny upon us.


    Other than individual non-cooperation with the system, the best thing that we can do about it is to support the coming mass arrests that have been championed by Wilcock / Drake of late.


    Yea, I know, many think that it's a trap and a false hope. Got something better? Short of arresting and stopping the ****ing dark bastards cold, anything short of that will fail.


    All the signs and information is pointing straight towards the final defeat of the goddamn, ****ing dark bastard elites no later than the end of June. If that does not happen, then I don't WTF will "Plan B" be, quite frankly.


    So what can you do about it? Support "Plan A" by supporting the arrests of the dark bastards by the local Sheriffs of each County, backed by the US Marshals, backed by the US military, etc.


    If "Plan A" fails -- then we're pretty much ****ed.


    ~Mozart

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    Default Re: You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it? -- JOHN PILGER

    don't forget the Oathkeepers!

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    <sigh>


    This kind of **** can really drag down one's spirit. I'm tired of fighting the goddamn dark bastard elites who relentlessly push their systems of tyranny upon us.


    Other than individual non-cooperation with the system, the best thing that we can do about it is to support the coming mass arrests that have been championed by Wilcock / Drake of late.


    Yea, I know, many think that it's a trap and a false hope. Got something better? Short of arresting and stopping the ****ing dark bastards cold, anything short of that will fail.


    All the signs and information is pointing straight towards the final defeat of the goddamn, ****ing dark bastard elites no later than the end of June. If that does not happen, then I don't WTF will "Plan B" be, quite frankly.


    So what can you do about it? Support "Plan A" by supporting the arrests of the dark bastards by the local Sheriffs of each County, backed by the US Marshals, backed by the US military, etc.


    If "Plan A" fails -- then we're pretty much ****ed.


    ~Mozart

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    So they are getting desperate and afraid too.

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    Default Re: You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it? -- JOHN PILGER

    Mozart,

    The collective momentum (think of the 100th sheep/monkey) is now so large, even if Drake's Operation does not succeed, others will follow. Do NOT buy into the fear my friend.
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    Bill, what can we do?

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    So they are getting desperate and afraid too.
    I totally agree! Desperate measures to try and stay in control!

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    Default Re: You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it? -- JOHN PILGER

    Quote Posted by gypsybutterflykiss (here)
    Quote Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
    I will help in protecting the tribe. For They haven't seen my Dark Side as of Yet.
    I love you White Feather!!!
    I Love You Too : )

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    Beautiful. Is she spoken for? : )
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    Default Re: You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it? -- JOHN PILGER

    They have NO idea how many people are not "sheeple" anymore. For some crazy reason I feel hope that Drake et al.'s plan (or something quite similar which he may not have been at liberty to reveal) WILL work. It has to. And if it doesn't I shall die on my feet but I shall not cower in shadows and/or live on my knees. True, I am about as violent and scary as a cream puff (i.e., not violent at all). But I do not believe it is the people's violence the dark cabal fear the most: I believe they are terrified of us simply standing up for ourselves and being who we ARE...!!!

    How dare I. Yes. I dare.

    Well, I might slip from their view from time to time in shadows....but I will not censor myself on the Internet or Facebook. I believe that is what they WANT me to do.
    Last edited by Avocadess; 2nd May 2012 at 02:11.

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    Quote Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
    Beautiful. Is she spoken for? : )
    She's not spoken for. She's in the final stage of becoming.
    Last edited by RunningDeer; 2nd May 2012 at 22:51.

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    Default Re: You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it? -- JOHN PILGER

    I came this close to leaving all of this talk, talk, talk for good.
    Whenever a golden light shone here clearly, it was immediately extinguished by the naysayers, the Doubting Thomases, the agendaists, the conspiracists, the religionists, the pragmaticists and the sceptics.
    The path is clear, the way illumined.
    There is no turning back.
    Give up your foolish vested interests, they are all but illusion. Give it up or find yourself holding on to nothing.
    You cannot be sovereign in solitude. You cannot know abundance without freedom.
    Stand up for those less fortunate, for your children, for yourself.
    Take one on the chin for what's right. And do not back down. Do not give up.
    These frail bodies are merely the front lines. The battle rages beyond our ken but not beyond our reach.
    I stand for you, and you, and you.
    Will you stand for me?
    When everything is on the line, everything must be sacrificed.
    I put a hand over my heart, and a fist in the air!
    We are the many, we shall prevail.

    Thanks Bill. Thanks Avalon.
    I draw my line in the sand - here, yes, and now, oh Yes!

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    Default Re: You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it? -- JOHN PILGER

    Who's this Drake guy and what's his plan?

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