You are all suspects now. What are you going to do about it? -- JOHN PILGER

[Debra]

We have had this conversation already Tommy ... BUMP, AND BUMP AGAIN

I am raising a company that drives wilderness awareness, environmental protection and survival education.

And one other exciting venture, that is still forming. This I hope is going to reach and serve a great many people. I will let you know

p.s. Bill, John Pilger has been an inspiration to me since my early days of training to be a journalist in Australia. Real journalism that is accountable and a service to others - that calls people to awareness and action. A standard that moves from being a communicator to a leader. THANKS FOR THE POST ..

Posted by seeingterra (here)
I would be interested to hear what all you great folks are doing outside this forum? Practically and etc.

I think there are many good ideas but an apparent lack of practical initiative out there, as in the world in general. I am curious to hear what is the case here.

Good topic Bill, appreciate the message

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Posted by seeingterra (here)
I would be interested to hear what all you great folks are doing outside this forum? Practically and etc.

I think there are many good ideas but an apparent lack of practical initiative out there, as in the world in general. I am curious to hear what is the case here.

Good topic Bill, appreciate the message

Practically,

The homelesshelter were i work is seriously considering expanding its operations since we got the word the sh!t is going to get a whole lot deeper the coming years and we have to prepare, as a social worker i see it getting worse every day. ( no fear porn in this sentence, we just get good information). So we started to grow( in stacked buckets) vertical some veggies on the rooftop ( saves us grocery money)the guys and gals have something usefull to do and learn some skills which could come in mighty handy in some possible future.

On a personal level, seeing so much crap made me prepare one little bag, contents, 3rat traps (rabbits), one small airrifle (collapsible), 12 fishing YOYO`S, 6 speedhooks ( very illegal, but being hungry is even more illegal), one pen rod with tackle( seriously, its the size of of a marker, if it breaks i will tie the whole shabang to a stick), one carefully selected waterproof small container with a wide variety of heirloom seeds, two canadian military 34 euro waterfilters with 2000 liter capacity each and some spare filters( total lasts at least 20 years on three liters a day) , one lightweight tent and sleeping bag, one watercontainer 5 liters, one cheap E treader with one cheap solar panel and a few memory sticks with some usefull manuals and books, 3 jars of tonic alchemy from dragon herbs ( out of jars and sealed vacuum in portion bags, i should be good for three months ), one folding silky gomboy saw, one good knife and a fire steel and some lighters, one small folding spade and pickaxe, a tarp and some cord, the biolite campstove is on order, a stash of MMS, Ultra liquid zeolite (vacuum sealed apricot kernels). thats it. ojeah, spork and crusader cooksystem, one wind up flashlight and radio.

All this sh!t fits in a 55 liter backpack and its a potential society starter as far as i am concerned.

If i were any of you i would make a bag like this, do some research on what to bring with you as essentials for living of the land, if nothing happens thats great, you can at least do some seriously bad ass camping with this bag as well, problably on any planet of your choosing( pun intended.)

It sounds like a very scary bag ( i know) but its money well spent, it sits by the door and i hope i never have to make use of it, nevertheless if any of the homeless dudes i see everyday at the shelter made this small preperation in better times they could have started themselves a village and be mooning all of us very comfortably. All in all i spend 350 euro`s on this bag( groceries money for 1.5 month) so this is pretty cheap, considering the tools, gear, and possibilities this offers to do well for years and years to come, what does not fit in the bag is can build myself.

For now i a`m swell, but watch the current situation with an eagles stinkeye.

[wynderer]

Hi Katari Rose -- when the infamous act was passed, i was part of a handful of people in my county who helped get a Bill of Rights Defense Resolution passed -- at the time i had more knowledge available to me

but it's in there --in the next county over, another woman was raising holy h about it

& this below that i found in today's David Icke's Headlines is very alarming -- for those not in the USA, Amtrak is about the only train system still up & running

WHY ARE THEY WORKING CLOSELY W/THE CHILD AGENCIES -- ?!?!!!!

[edit -- i feel really dumb -- re-reading i see they use the parent-child term for the agency structure

still, the trains -- & the Nazis -- hmmm....]

Amtrak Forms New Department to be Headed by Former FEMA Official, Signals Tighter Integration
Wednesday, 02 May 2012 08:56

'As I have previously reported, Amtrak is working with closely with the child agencies of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), including the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) which has been steadily expanding outside of the confines of airports.

Of course one of the other most well-known child agencies of the behemoth DHS is the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), which is where the head of Amtrak’s new emergency management and corporate security department comes from.

The leader of this new department will be Susan Reinertson, the former regional director of FEMA Region X in Seattle.'

[clip]
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/05/...ent-to-be.html

Posted by Katari Rose (here)
Wyndere, where can I find the specific information re: "about the bit in the Patriot Act which rules that if there is some national disaster/emergency, their children can be loaded on to busses & transported to locations unknown"-

This is would be very good to tell mothers, it really brings it home and you are right to spread the truth to as many as possible. Thank you!

[peace]

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Posted by Moemers (here)
Who's this Drake guy and what's his plan?

You have a lot of catch-up reading to do Moemers. It might be best to start at the beginning - but here will do:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...tions-and-more

tl;dr

Sum it for us please.

US? Most of US have been all over this. Follow the links and do your own work. This has all been very taxing for US who are fuctioning members of this community. There is no summation, only ongoing unfolding of a plan/dream that must see actuation.

Thank you for asking nicely though. Please is a nice word.

while i agree to a point; the time you spent writing this could have gone to writing the 2 sentences it would've taken to explain. big help.

Bill took care of it, like a grown up. Thought this was a place you could ask such a question and not be made to feel like a jerk.

oh well, back on topic ...

i don't know that raising a vibrational level, or moving to a remote area will keep us safe from being suspect. i bet many of us, just based on the web searches we do already have our names in the big book of 'anti-government.' there is a bit of a feeling of no-win here, to me. but we shall see, the good guys usually come through, no matter how long it takes, and i think it will be a veeeeerrrry long time before any of the OP topics are 'fixed.'

Bill won't be eating his hat. Mozart has become someone I admire on here, diligent and true to beliefs, but sadly we disagree again!

[araucaria]

Quote Wynderer above: 'WAKE UP, STUPID PEOPLE! FASCISM IS COMING!'

Here in France, we have the neo-fascist Front National party on 17% of the popular vote, and with 45%, we have the real thing pretending to be something more palatable. Fortunately a majority is already awake to this wolf in sheep’s clothing mirroring Le Pen, but the bigger the majority the better.

Here is the cover of a mainstream news magazine:



One of the rotten planks in Sarkozy’s platform is rejection of immigrants voting in local elections. Given that everything is local and that this poll will have (already is having) repercussions throughout Europe and beyond, I invite concerned non-French people wherever they originally come from to take part in this vote through their usual channels.

Every little helps.

[Wind]

I will continue to keep fighting the good fight as long as I live. I will be one of the guiding lights in the darkness and I also will continue to spread love to this world no matter what! They can never suppress my spirit!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=i6zGEBhJMHA

[norman]

I've not been around here much lately so I'm coming back at this conversation from a slightly fresh position.

I'm noticing that there has not been too much talk on this thread so far about this only being a 3D scenario that is about to dissapear anyway. Blaa blaa blaa.

I'm not confident at all that this situation is going to go well, but I'm less confident to be washed in wishful false hope.

I'm ready to die, if i must. That might sound like I'm an extremist who must be locked up but it's the other 'ready to die' that I'm refering to. It's looking like they intend to process us all in roughly the same way. The slaughtered and the enemy combatants all.

I'm not quite sure if the folks down under the equator are talking up the horror to self justify their positions or what. Human minds are so tricky.

I've recently had a very profound experience of feeling terrified to be among humans. A feeling that I'm walking among 'aliens' on an 'alien' world and also feeling more than a little homesick for own home world. At the time is shocked me to the point of panic. I could accept that it's just me becoming mentally unstable, and it very well could be, but I'm getting more and more disconnected from this world's affairs and it's energetic horrors.

I logged onto Avalon last night for the first time in a couple or more weeks. I felt a strong blast of "horror". Most of it blowing up from the south. I don't know what's going on at all. Or why we even think talking about it year after years is important. If something happens that kills me outright, I'll be leaving this horror show as a on-my-own as how i came into it in the first place.

I sometimes think we should be more about our own readiness for what will happen to us as individual entities, with our own relationship with the sentient source, than chatterering up a futile defiance or a false bravado. By all means show your courage, but point it where it's meant to be facing. And most importantly of all, don't hire your courage out to the craftiest bidders.

best wishes for us all........... norman...

[Mad Hatter]

Lmao......

[Lazlo]

Princess Leia to Grand Moff Tarkin aboard the Death Star:

"The more you tighten your grip, the more systems that will slip through your fingers."


Governements are in danger of creating a self fulfilling prophecy. I am constantly surprised by the number of people who are waking up and speak in hushed, embarrassed tones about their belief in the inevitability of revolution. They want it, but they feel like they aren't supposed to want it.

[gypsybutterflykiss]

*sigh*.....

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Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
I will help in protecting the tribe. For They haven't seen my Dark Side as of Yet.

I love you White Feather!!!

I Love You Too : )

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Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)
WhiteCrowBlackDeer a.k.a. "Light Warrior", guardian with/for Mother Earth and her people.

Beautiful. Is she spoken for? : )

[deridan]

[norman:]>>becoming alien to our own planet, yes especially as the consciousness of the masses only perpetuate this global disease. {experienced this subtle 'doorway in consciousness too'}
the most ideal thing would be for all to wake up. most perpetuate their lives within the inaccurate consciousness the mass media systems brings down on them.
..the only pertinent thing i can think of doing now, or a priority, is to spread more of the true truth.
the nwo is sneaky in how it gradually integrates its policies amongst all the day to day policies 'government' is implementing.

one thing, amongst ourselves is to not see it as inevitable [..redezra]. (that's if that who-ha about attracting scenario's through thought or focus base is true)

the Drake scenario, which I have come across people seeing it as more of a lateral replacement of figures, definitely seems enticing, cause to a certain extent we can see it... (that is, not us little stick men on the ground writing to senators, but from 'awake-ones' within the upper/echelon structures refusing the plan,...cause inevitable, there children will live thru it, or they'll be reincarnated later in a less favorable position..as suffers)
on the other side, .. .. & i'm also one who doesn't lend the drake scenario too-much credence,
it would have to be ....everyone wakes up stands up,
and we all rethink how we go about the business of being on this planet, and exactly what structures there are to governance. one think would have to be to figure out global economy with various forms of free-energy.
somehow i wish for some end scenario [like a comingof God*], cause allot of human beings are too-pathological, and would not deserve to live in that free society

[*maybe if we believe ol'Alex, it would be a Jehovah, saying ..."so how ready are you our genetic progeny in joining and engaging in the galactic system".... & who knows, cause it is this cruel jehovah, he may need some cannon fodder. <<but i don't believe in that cruel jehovah>>
maybe the only plausible alternative is really a splitting off of the worlds, one for the lowers, one for us. it sounds so implausible, but here considering possible steps that we can go, it sounds like the only logical one,...though how metaphysical/physical/scientifically it is plausible ...anyone's guess]

[nomadguy]

"The conquest or “pacification” of territory is unimportant. What matters is the pacification of you, the cultivation of your indifference."

Point ~ on point. good post. Do not let anything divide us.

"I" - the Ego me, is not likely to do very much about it... successfully. Though I could try and ice skate uphill for a bit longer.
and since we are all already "watched", I do not feel the need to say anything about what I might do.

So, the only answer I can sum up, right now, comes from a Seminar in Sacramento.

~~
There was a technique Inelia described in dealing with dark minded beings.
She described how she was able to See a very dark soul without judgement and then a profound change happened from within that dark driven mind. Sounded like a good idea, something to tryout whole-heartedly. Steer with your intention.

[WHOMADEGOD]

Life here is made up of moments. And in that moment nothing else matters because
nothing else exists, so why worry in this moment about something that is not in this moment
it is a waste of these precious moments and If such a moment arises, then it is but for a moment
so hang in there and be true to yourselves and we will all love you for it, for our eternity of choice
is right around that next corner.......:-)

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by doodah (here)
I've been thinking seriously about getting out of Dodge. We haven't heard from you recently... are you still saying that Ecuador is a good place to be?

Hi there, Doodah --- and very good to hear from you. Please excuse my being so remiss as not having yet replied to your e-mails.

Yes, Ecuador is still definitely a good place to be. See my Fukushima thread (and other threads here on the real threat of massive radiation contamination) --->

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...tion-IMPORTANT

... and the Southern Hemisphere has really quite a lot going for it. Re Ecuador, there's abundant high quality water, fresh fruit, vegetables and raw milk. Diesel is nationally subsidized at just over $1 per gallon. The population is low, and the climate is mild and stable. A pleasant rental property for a single person can be as cheap as $300 per month. It has to be one of the better places to be.

Posted by MargueriteBee (here)
Bill, what can we do?

A really important question... let me reply to that in a separate thread which I'll create for this purpose. Give me a little time to put together something that may be of value.

[tonton]

will fight long and hard, as my soul now hardens so does so does my strength.the nuclear situation in japan is at the moment , by far, the most import problem ,the political and social issues of this planet will be walked over by us all.

[Molope]

Im really looking foward to see your post Bill but also i have to say that in my case if something happens(HOPE NOT!)im not going to move to a diferent country and hide i will face whatever happens whith my family and friends here.

Thanks.

[doodah]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Hi there, Doodah --- and very good to hear from you. Please excuse my being so remiss as not having yet replied to your e-mails.

Yes, Ecuador is still definitely a good place to be. See my Fukushima thread (and other threads here on the real threat of massive radiation contamination) --->

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...tion-IMPORTANT

Thank you, Bill. That's reassurring to hear.

The Fukushima thing is truly scary. Plus the fact that the US is doing absolutely nothing to decommission its existing nuclear power plants (which I read takes about a year to do), especially all the ones built on fault lines. No. Instead, they're going to build new ones. It's getting really difficult to live with this level of insanity.

[YvonneG]

Well, I wish I had not seen this thread. I have been staying away using my energy and time for working on local stuff. But one thing for sure I wiil not do is listen to those who continue to throw the fear in our face ad nauseum...infowars...good old fear Monger Alex Jones...no matter how much truth he has revealed, the parazye caused by the way he does it is not helpful..

Why in the world keep posting what we already know! So we can fill our hearts and heads with MORE fear...and spend our time and energy posting here instead of helping a neighbor?

Now I know I probably won't be back for a long time. Many blessings to everyone...really...there are so many "worlds" and I don't mean ET worlds either...the Native Americans, the Shamans, those in deep ecology...they know that the Earth... is alive...that "Gaia" is real so my vote and my heart is what that and I just have yet to see how repeating, regurgitating what we already know in this forum or elsewhere has any value.

And yes all this BS repeating of all the fear senarios, as if whatever we read is 100% correct! does serve one big purpose, Mozart so eloquently pointed out..."to drag our sprits down'...well...that is exactly what THEY...have used for years with fear mongering and the repetition of this or that. IT MIGHT BILL AND OTHERS good to watch Thrive...to look at all the good that is happening...becasue people are not asleep anymore.

For the Earth, for Freedom, for the Great Spirit WHO IS STILL IN CHARGE!

Yvonne...A free Soul!

Yvonne

Posted by Avocadess (here)
They have NO idea how many people are not "sheeple" anymore. For some crazy reason I feel hope that Drake et al.'s plan (or something quite similar which he may not have been at liberty to reveal) WILL work. It has to. And if it doesn't I shall die on my feet but I shall not cower in shadows and/or live on my knees. True, I am about as violent and scary as a cream puff (i.e., not violent at all). But I do not believe it is the people's violence the dark cabal fear the most: I believe they are terrified of us simply standing up for ourselves and being who we ARE...!!!

How dare I. Yes. I dare.

Well, I might slip from their view from time to time in shadows....but I will not censor myself on the Internet or Facebook. I believe that is what they WANT me to do.

[Silo]

For every thousand hacking at the leaves of evil, there is one striking at the root.
Let's find the root

[Avocadess]

I agree with YvonneG. And propagating and encouraging FEAR is the most powerful tool the dark cabal has left. But then I suppose it is up to each individual to deal with his/her own ability to function well even with FEAR being thrown at them from every angle (including Avalon members)...

Regarding Alex Jones, I have defended him for years. I was convinced he was authentic, passionate and pure at heart (even if sometimes over the top -- and like just about anyone, there are always things I never agreed with him about, such as his anti-choice stance).

However, I now have a totally different take on Alex Jones. I recently talked to someone I trust who works at Brave New Books here in Austin and I heard a very enlightening story. Two or three years ago there was a gun show in Austin and the authorities had threatened to confiscate the guns, Therefore, a local group (whose name now escapes me) set up a sort of protest rally regarding the right to bear arms. This is one of the things Alex Jones has always been vocally very much for.

Alex Jones showed up at that rally with his megaphone and began disrupting the entire rally with his ranting. The examples of what he was saying did not even have anything to do with guns and the right to bear arms; it was more like "The Illuminati are out to get you!" and so on. A founder of the group rushed over to him and offered him time behind the microphone hoping to allay any fears Jones may have had he might not be heard (and indeed was happy to have him as a speaker).

But then what happened, to me, is unconscionable -- and since I do believe Alex is at heart a "good guy" I believe he MUST have been taking orders from somewhere. Instead of allowing the speakers to speak at the rally, Alex Jones CONTINUED to shout over them with his megaphone. After that day, that organizer of the rally had an entirely different take on Alex Jones and spoke about it on the radio here in Austin, critical of Jones. Jones' "powers that be" had that man taken off the air. That man is one of the main people that work at Brave New Books, which used to be practically an extension of InfoWars.com, one of Alex's websites.

Some think it's ego and some think he's mind-controlled. And recently I heard a third viewpoint, and that came from Drake (in the chat room during one of his shows regarding the upcoming sweep of arrests). When asked why Alex Jones was not covering this story, Drake said (paraphrasing here): "Because he is scared. He has been told not to." I.e., perhaps he has been given threats and perhaps even his family and children have been threatened. No, I don't think Alex is a bad guy, but I DO think he is being "used" by the dark cabal.

I'm sorry to see YvonneG may be leaving us, and also to report that another person PM'd me today that that person couldn't bear to read all the negative posts put out by Avalonians. I told that person -- and would like to remind everyone -- that you CAN "ignore" people on here by going to your profile or inbox page and go to "Edit Ignore List" and you can add every user name that effects you like an energy vampire. I did -- and I LOVE it.

There are now 5 names on my ignore list and I don't "miss" 'em a bit. I only know they have posted by a pink screen listing their name has having posted something and just scroll on down pass them. Life is too short to let people get you down -- on a website no less. Just ignore 'em!