Bill Ryan WILL eat his hat -- guaranteed.

[Paul]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
Just assuming those resignation stats are legit, have we thought about who's replacing these CEO's? The leaders of atleast two major countries,(Greece and Italy) have "stepped down" recently, and who replaced them? As Gerald Celente would put it: "the Gold in sacks white shoe boys".

That Celente guy does have a way with words .

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
My wife is unfortunately still trapped working for a major national brokerage firm, and there are high level people stepping down left and right, including the CEO, but you ought to see who's coming in...Yikes!!! Call in the goon squad. The newbies have decided to make the place also a bank, so now there's Federal Reserve cancer running rampant.

The new #2 is the company mystery woman. No one has a clue who she is or where she came from. She just appeared one day because old #2 up and left, and she's a tyrant. The company is no longer about service to the customer, it's about pleasing her, and satisfying her every whim. The talk in the smoking area is that she's a freakin Russian spy.

Very helpful ... thanks!

[frozen alchemy]

It probably goes without saying, but one of the significant problems here is that, we've all been indoctrinated to think that the 'real' news comes from certain sources that have long since been taken over by the government and various power cabals. So, it used to be, if Walter Cronkite* said it happened, well then by golly, it happened and exactly as Walter said it did.

So now we're all waiting for the mass arrests, the ETs, and all the rest to show up on the news, and it may never be broadcast even if we see it with our own eyes and know it to be true.

How does one parse out this little bedeviling conflict of known and unknown? At this point all we can do is get on line (a form of electronic mass telepathy, BTW) and read what everyone else says, and try to make sense of it all. More facts and a lot more chaff, too..

*Little aside that's fun: Back in the day when it was announced on CBS News that 'Walter was on assignment', he was really on his sailboat taking a vacation.
The name of the sailboat was 'Assignment'.

[qbeac]

Hi Bill, even if you lose the bet (and I hope so), I wouldn’t want you to eat your hat, but I am curious about your reasons to believe the elite arrests won’t happen. Why do you think David Wilcock and Drake & Co. are wrong or have been fooled? Why?

In any case, if the elite are not arrested, and if the Electrical Engineer Pedro Gaete is right (I mean what he explains about the elite’s capacity to provoke artificial earthquakes, etc., see links below), there are good reasons to believe the elite might attempt to provoke a huge earthquake (or even cataclysm) on Dec-12. And this is not a joke, see these two links and judge it by yourself:

Post 1. The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Dec-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ysm-Revealed--

Post 17, pag. 1. The elite might have the means, motive and opportunity to provoke an artificial global cataclysm on Dec-12
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post481379

So, in case Pedro Gaete was right, it seems to me the wisest and healthiest thing to do would be to arrest the elite ASAP, don’t you all think so?

And what can we (regular people) do about it? Well, everything we can think of, for instance: spreading the word, supporting David Wilcock, Drake & Co., Neil Keenan, Keith Scott, the good guys at the Pentagon, the Federal Marshals, the Sheriffs, the patriots, etc., and anybody who sincerely is trying to work towards that goal.

Btw, I just listened to the interview of Kerry Cassidy to Keith Scott, and Keith seems to be sincere and credible.

[RMorgan]

Posted by qbeac (here)
Hi Bill, even if you lose the bet (and I hope so), I wouldn’t want you to eat your hat, but I am curious about your reasons to believe the elite arrests won’t happen. Why do you think David Wilcock and Drake & Co. are wrong or have been fooled? Why?

In any case, if the elite are not arrested, and if the Electrical Engineer Pedro Gaete is right (I mean what he explains about the elite’s capacity to provoke artificial earthquakes, etc., see links below), there are good reasons to believe the elite might attempt to provoke a huge earthquake (or even cataclysm) on Dec-12. And this is not a joke, see these two links and judge it by yourself:

Post 1. The Elite’s Secret Plan to Artificially Provoke Dec-2012 Cataclysm Revealed…?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ysm-Revealed--

Post 17, pag. 1. The elite might have the means, motive and opportunity to provoke an artificial global cataclysm on Dec-12
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post481379

So, in case Pedro Gaete was right, it seems to me the wisest and healthiest thing to do would be to arrest the elite ASAP, don’t you all think so?

And what can we (regular people) do about it? Well, everything we can think of, for instance: spreading the word, supporting David Wilcock, Drake & Co., Neil Keenan, Keith Scott, the good guys at the Pentagon, the Federal Marshals, the Sheriffs, the patriots, etc., and anybody who sincerely is trying to work towards that goal.

Btw, I just listened to the interview of Kerry Cassidy to Keith Scott, and Keith seems to be sincere and credible.

Dear qbeac,

Allow me to try to answer some of your questions. I´m pasting something I´ve posted on another forum, as a reply to a similar question.

Do you know that when they take a bunch of animals from a zoo, who are used to live in a cage for years, and then release them in nature? You know, they don´t have a clue about what to do, how to behave, what to eat and these sorts of things.

We´re animals as well and we behave exactly the same. We live in this cage for so long, that we don´t actually know what to do. We´re all clueless about what we should do, so we push the responsibility to others.

The huge majority of us just can´t live without the help of the system, without computers, cars, packed food and these things.

We live a symbiotic relation with the system. They supply us with everything we "need", and we give them what they want.

The problem is that they want much more that we can give, and we think we need much more things than we actually need.

We´re just like a computer program. We´re just not programmed to live outside this cage, we don´t know how to remove this cage and most of us don´t even want the cage to be removed.

You know, life outside the cage can be pretty hard. Can you imagine yourself hunting for food, making your own cloths, building your own shelter?

It´s so comfortable to live in this cage, that most people don´t actually care, because they are too lazy to get their hands dirty and actually do things.

So, the people of this world will actually do everything they can to keep living in this cage for as long as they can; it doesn´t matter the consequences.

The biggest problem is that we want to change things, but we don´t want to abdicate of our comfort!

You know, we expect someone to magically fix this situation, while at the same time, completely preserve our life style and modern life conveniences, but doing both is impossible.

Using the cage metaphor, we want the cage to be removed, but we don´t want to abdicate of the comfort of living in the cage! Now, how is that possible?

If we want to change things, that´s very simple! Stop consuming! Go live a self-sufficient life style, Thoreau style, no tv, no electricity, no fuels, no computer; stop supplying the system with your money and stop taking ANYTHING from the system!

Looks simple right? But it´s not. People don´t want a this life style, because it´s too laborious.

Unfortunately, my friend I know why people want so badly for a miracle to save us. Because we know we wont save ourselves, and if no one else saves us, we know we´re doomed.

I really hope for a miracle, but I don´t believe in miracles.

Cheers,

Raf.

[frozen alchemy]

So Raf, what you're saying is that H.G. Wells' 'The Time Machine' describes us now. Most of us are the Eloi, simple minded children who are fed, housed and clothed for free and are then used as food for the Morlocks?

Sounds about right. I wonder what Wells knew back then; he certainly was prophetic.

[MMA_Fan]

Find it very hard to take Benjamin Fulford seriously.



Especially when he looks like Alan off The Hangover;

[araucaria]

Posted by MMA_Fan (here)
Find it very hard to take Benjamin Fulford seriously.



Especially when he looks like Alan off The Hangover;

I'd be very careful of judging people by the way they look. Here in France, we have the 'délit de sale gueule', meaning that you get stopped over and over by the police simply because you are of Arab descent and are obviously up to no good.

Have a nice day

[MMA_Fan]

Posted by araucaria (here)
I'd be very careful of judging people by the way they look. Here in France, we have the 'délit de sale gueule', meaning that you get stopped over and over by the police simply because you are of Arab descent and are obviously up to no good.

Have a nice day

I was joking

[araucaria]

Posted by MMA_Fan (here)

Posted by araucaria (here)
I'd be very careful of judging people by the way they look. Here in France, we have the 'délit de sale gueule', meaning that you get stopped over and over by the police simply because you are of Arab descent and are obviously up to no good.

Have a nice day

I was joking

I should hope so too. But it is no joking matter imho, that's all.

Edit : It is even less of a joke when you consider the other side of the coin, namely the façade of respectability we get from those who are really up to no good.

[gripreaper]

Quite frankly I'm still worried about the hat, even though it is just an inanimate object.

But is it fair to say that anything in the universe is inanimate? Aren't we all made of the same stuff and all one in "all that is" in the cosmos? And who am I to objectify the hat? If we are in fact moving towards unity consciousness, is not the idea to magnify the things which bring us together, and not continue the divisiveness which has plagued our planet since the elite power mongers severed the Feminine energy from the matrix and turned our reality into the Patriarch?

The hat has been a fixture on Bill's head for as long as I can remember, and now Bill tells us he bought a new hat last October? Why would he do that? Is Bill anticipating eating one of his hats, and therefore bought a new hat in anticipation? And has it been specified which hat he will eat and which hat he will keep? Maybe Bill is objectifying one of the hats and favoring the other which would lead me to believe that it may be difficult for some of the rest of us to fully know the potential fates of either of the two hats.

And besides, there are other energetic imprints which have been associated with the old hat as well, at least the older one has been many miles and visited many continents, and has first hand knowledge of the evolution of Bill's journalistic chapter of his life, and the hat has seen many of the souls who have poured their heart out to bring us the truth and expose the lie, and the hat has witnessed many of these encounters. What does the new hat have to offer which could point to the new paradigm which we are shifting into? Can the new hat act as a guide and become the new archetype, and symbolize the great transformation of the ages we are now in, and do it with honor and integrity, as the old hat has done?

Surely we should know these things before we go out and purchase salsa, marinating sauces, herbs and spices and other condiments, should we not?

[9eagle9]

He actually looks more like my brother in law Rob after he's had a few. Not a judgement just the way it is.

Posted by MMA_Fan (here)
Find it very hard to take Benjamin Fulford seriously.



Especially when he looks like Alan off The Hangover;

[Sloppyjoe]

Nothing will happen. Regardless of how much evil they have done in this world it's all for a purpose, people come into this life playing a role for a reason, whether good or evil. This world we live in will always be in duality of good and evil, it's supposed to be so that we can learn and eventually move onto the next phase, whatever that may be. So just as john lear says, learn to live your life without hate greed and envy and you will be fine. It's easier said than done but truthfully people come back and fourth to this world until they get it right, and they have eternity to do it. So just enjoy what you have and who you are, and always strive to become a better person, for it will pay off in the end.

[161803398]

Its all just to pump people up and then deflate them. Typical PTB tactic.

[161803398]

Drake - Draconis - Dragon. When the Christian knights came they killed the Dragons. It's now the end of that 2K year cycle that the Theosophists talk about: the end of the age of Christianity and the beginning of a new age of heroism. Its very poetic but, in real life, would his name be so perfect for the job. (ok, and this is a joke, I think, but Drake is also a male duck and remember Leda and the Swan, anyone?).

Or, as it sometimes seems, this is all a familiar play staged for our enlightenment: an unforgettable history lesson entitled The Real Reasons behind the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire or Why the Germans really couldn't stop the Rise of Nazi Germany.

Anyway, that list isn't long enough:

"In 1946 the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal concluded that without IG Farben the Second World War would simply not have been possible. The Chief Prosecutor, Telford Taylor, warned: "These companies, not the lunatic Nazi fanatics, are the main war criminals. If the guilt of these criminals is not brought to daylight and if they are not punished, they will pose a much greater threat to the future peace of the world than Hitler if he were still alive."

http://www.gmwatch.org/gm-firms-mobi...ayer-a-history

[EnergyGardener]

Mozart,

I appreciate your constructive purpose for this thread, and the attempt (including my own) to let Bill off the hook for dissing Drake, Ascension and the very idea that the US and other Millitaries have had enough of the "Sellout" of humanity and are doing the right thing as we speak to remove the CABAL, render justice and help usher in humanity's freedom.

However, after reading Bill's posts and all of those that thanked / supported his responses, and now, Drake's recent response to PA and PC, I further appreciate the loss of respect for leadership for once well thought of entities. The concern of anyone's eating of hats made of corn, pasta, straw or felt is no longer my concern whatsoever. I have much more important issues to concern myself with.

[tenacity1]

any direction to those reply posts you mentioned .I'm not one to have the time to wade thru reams of posts

[EnergyGardener]

Posted by tenacity1 (here)
any direction to those reply posts you mentioned .I'm not one to have the time to wade thru reams of posts

He posted five times on this thread; you could have found them all if you had simply flipped through 5 pages instead of asking me to do that for you.

I'm not one to do another's work for them such as this.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Posted by 161803398 (here)
It's now the end of that 2K year cycle that the Theosophists talk about: the end of the age of Christianity and the beginning of a new age of heroism.

Tangent Warning.

If you don't mind me saying, it is the end of the era of the great teachers and gurus and the beginning of the era of the teacher within. The wisdom within will now take precedent over looking outside of ourselves for ultimate wisdom.

[PHARAOH]

As time appears to pass, looks like Mozart will be doing the eating. It won't be Bills hat either.

[kooky]

Well...things don't quite work that way. On one hand many people that ETs/Reptilian/Greys are all running the world. They can do whatever they like, appear at will, abuct you, kill you and these people in power are all satanists and they do weird things behind closed doors. But we need to
arrest them.

Arrest them? That is something that the police do, the police are the authorities at the lowest level. At a human level lets say. Do you see where I'm headed? On one hand you say lock them all up! We want freedom, we don't wanna pay mortgages and live in debt, we don't want our foods poisioned, we don't want this we don't want that, we wanna go to the stars! But your way of solving that is by putting those in charge in jail. If things really go that far and we do indeed take over and get true freedom and everything else with it......do you really believe there will even be such a thing as jails or even a police force? If you're all gonna unite to take the globalists down, it's all or nothing. You can't pick and choose which parts of society you want to keep and what parts you don't. If they really are working for evil entities do you really think locking them up is gonna do any good? If that was all real then I'm sure these entities would easily get them out of jail and then really show themselves to humanity and what they can do. But then the good ETs are preventing that I hear!

Well there is the funny thing. I think people would be quite happy with that happening and seeing it happening. Even if they didn't get everything else they wanted along with it I think if you turned the TV on tomorrow and there was some kind of widespread disclosure on the news or mass sighting or even through the official channels they announce alien life exists! Whether it was real or fake or what the intentions would be behind showing people that out in the open, most people would find that cool. Seeing real live aliens and saucers flying around. They would easily drop any gripes they had. Just like most people right now are being screwed around by the system or they have no money, if you stop screwing them around or give them money they will shut up. The system isn't fair by any means but if you give people enough to live WITHIN it then they're happy enough.

So when it comes to David Wilcock or any other person that claims to have news or knows what is going on behind the scenes...you need to take it with a grain of salt or if you're gonna invest all your time into them and buy their products and buy their books then please realise that they can only do that because nothing has been disclosed to the public. That's not to say what they are saying isn't true but I promise you that if any kind of disclosure happened tomorrow, if people saw aliens or flying saucers, real ET or man made they would drop this forum like a hot potato. Just seeing it for real with their own eyes is all most people want. Of course people have dreams, don't we all? I dreamed this, I dreamt that and of course they can get away with it because nothing can be proven one way or the other and since there is no evidence of ETs being real, of course they can tell you about them meeting aliens and being given information and going on spaceships. Of course most of that stuff can be pulled apart within minutes but what you end up with is a group of people, a small part of society all feeding each other what they want to hear. David Wilcock is a bit like a celebrity to you, as are most witnesses. They do the talking, they tell you what you want to hear, it's nice to hear, some of you take it serious and have some dreams and believe the dreams to be real. You talk about it every day, you're feeding the illusion that it is real. And this thread is a follow up to that, the idea that all these high power players will be arrested and put into jail is feeding the illusion of what you all want to happen. If it doesn't happen this year well......that's not to say it wont happen next year and I'm sure these whistleblowers will give the reason why, maybe there was a war underground that no one heard or maybe it was out in space or there will be some reason.

What you have is many people with a set way of how things need to be done, how the world needs to be, how things SHOULD be but no one really does anything. It's like going to these UFO conventions and exopolitics events. I can imagine most people going to these things do have good intentions, I probably would do if I went and listened to Bob Dean and Richard Dolan and Richard Hoagland and you probably feel good afterwards and determined and they're selling books and you're buying them and I'm gonna find out the truth! I'm gonna spread the word! Then after a few days that wears off, you've had a good time, you've met some nice people but you're not doing what you set out today and you're out of pocket money wise. Guys like Richard Dolan and Richard Hoagland have done their job and have your money in their pocket. It's not really they win/you lose but they never claim to work miracles and fight for humanity, they just research and pass on information, charging you for that. Not that there is anything wrong with that but what happened to all that confidence and good nature you had to change the world?! It's gone. It's like going to a film or a music concert or something, you could see a singer on stage, thousands of people going crazy for them and you walk out of there feeling good and you think I wanna do something like that, I wanna make lots of money I wanna do something I love. But the feeling goes after a day or so and you're back at the job, back to paying bills, back to normal life.

It's all well and good hearing what you want to hear and telling others what they want to hear but there is also a lot of people who wont go and make a difference, they wont go and expose the criminals, they wont go and make that career changing choice to go and live the dream. They wont rock the boat. But it's up to all of you, look at Benjamin Fulford. He's talking to you. he isn't saying I'm here to do this and that and I'll do it alone, there's a reason he's talking to a camera, whether it's lies or truths he's saying he's telling you because he wants all of YOU to help make things right. Just like Dolan and Hoagland, they spend years getting the information and putting it together but if you want the truth on UFOs or what is on the Moon? Well you need to do that yourself. They never claimed to find out the causes or change the world, they just got the information together. As long as their bills are paid and there is food on the table they couldn't care less. One of the reasons why I said Dolan would never go to Gillilands Ranch, if it was all real then the last thing he would want is to see it for himself, UFOs zipping all over the place. No no, he's quite happy speculating. Do you see what I mean? Anything that happens in this world is down to all of you. You're on your own.