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    Hello friends.

    Today i had an enlightning experiance.
    While i was in the kitchen with my mother she saw an aphid (tiny fly)
    It was on the Basil herb we have on the window, she went to kill it and i stopped her.

    Something came over me and i was able to explain my reasoning in a manner she understood and was quite touched by.

    I explained to her that she was about to kill for the sake of killing, that in her act she was knowningly about to carry out a small but significant act, maybe not on the material world but inside her mind and soul.
    That even though it may insignificant to her, its part of natures plan and the earth mother does not create without cause.
    That she should take a look at the bigger picture, that small fly has a purpose and it harms her in no way, i said this:
    "look around you, is this creature affecting your world in a negative way?"
    "does it infringe on you, does it destroy anything"
    She then looked puzzled but understood i then told her that to kill this creature that only lives for a few days if that, is a violation of nature, its purpose is taken.
    It costs her more energy to kill it, than to let it do its thing then die natural.

    What creatures are we to decide something of that magnitude, who are we to kill something beacause it simply exsits.
    Human Beigns are the only animal upon this world that does this,?
    Does that mean we should do it, or does it mean we should protect the world and our life.
    We are all linked, when you kill the spider in the corner of the room you kill a creature of purpose.
    When you kill a dady long legs you kill a creature who only lives a day,
    These are things we need to consider, if you can refrain from killing an aphid, then the idea of killing a Rhino because it has a cool looking horn is the ultimate violation of nature in my eyes and the world we should love.

    Just wanted to share this with you friends, coincidently after i expalined this i stood there in the kitchen after she went into another room and out of nowhere there was loud clear birdsong outside and it felt like the earth mother recognising i understood.

    It felt amazing stay strong friends and please think about the little creatures who make our world beautifull beyond belief!!

    SeanTimberwolf
    "And if one man could stand tall, There would be hope for us all, Somewhere in the spirit of man!"

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    thank you, Sean

    i took a walk yesterday & -- i swear -- all the birds along the way were definitely wanting me to see them & hear their songs -- even normally shy birds would fly in front of me & sit in branches in full view

    i thanked each for their beauty & their wonderful gifts of song

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    Hello friends.

    Today i had an enlightning experiance.
    While i was in the kitchen with my mother she saw an aphid (tiny fly)
    It was on the Basil herb we have on the window, she went to kill it and i stopped her.

    Something came over me and i was able to explain my reasoning in a manner she understood and was quite touched by.

    I explained to her that she was about to kill for the sake of killing, that in her act she was knowningly about to carry out a small but significant act, maybe not on the material world but inside her mind and soul.
    That even though it may insignificant to her, its part of natures plan and the earth mother does not create without cause.
    That she should take a look at the bigger picture, that small fly has a purpose and it harms her in no way, i said this:
    "look around you, is this creature affecting your world in a negative way?"
    "does it infringe on you, does it destroy anything"
    She then looked puzzled but understood i then told her that to kill this creature that only lives for a few days if that, is a violation of nature, its purpose is taken.
    It costs her more energy to kill it, than to let it do its thing then die natural.

    What creatures are we to decide something of that magnitude, who are we to kill something beacause it simply exsits.
    Human Beigns are the only animal upon this world that does this,?
    Does that mean we should do it, or does it mean we should protect the world and our life.
    We are all linked, when you kill the spider in the corner of the room you kill a creature of purpose.
    When you kill a dady long legs you kill a creature who only lives a day,
    These are things we need to consider, if you can refrain from killing an aphid, then the idea of killing a Rhino because it has a cool looking horn is the ultimate violation of nature in my eyes and the world we should love.

    Just wanted to share this with you friends, coincidently after i expalined this i stood there in the kitchen after she went into another room and out of nowhere there was loud clear birdsong outside and it felt like the earth mother recognising i understood.

    It felt amazing stay strong friends and please think about the little creatures who make our world beautifull beyond belief!!

    SeanTimberwolf

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    Thank you Wyn, sometimes it does feel like we are being invited BACK into there world, and i say that as we once lived amoung them
    The great mother surrounds us, its up to us to hear her song!
    "And if one man could stand tall, There would be hope for us all, Somewhere in the spirit of man!"

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    Ah, seantimberwolf, in my humble opinion this is one of the milestones of your journey of going home. I to, had this milestone as I guess many others here have.

    A pause, a reflection, a knowingness of the sacredness of life.

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    Quote Posted by Carmen (here)
    Ah, seantimberwolf, in my humble opinion this is one of the milestones of your journey of going home. I to, had this milestone as I guess many others here have.

    A pause, a reflection, a knowingness of the sacredness of life.
    Thank you Carmen i really appreciate that comment, i have always loved nature and have always respected her and felt her, but today i just wanted to make someone aware of the balance you know?
    of the reason we should care more.

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    No matter how hard I try, I cannot show the same mercy towards Wasps, who's sole purpose in their life appears to be terrorising Humans and consuming Aphids.
    "Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival.

    There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.

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    No matter how hard I try, I cannot show the same mercy towards Wasps, who's sole purpose in their life appears to be terrorising Humans and consuming Aphids.

    HA HA HA this is true, although i dont kill them, it is purely down to the fact they scare me, and i dont want there friends and family comming after me !
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    I'm always fighting ants coming into my kitchen. I kill them one by one, but often feel a sense of remorse. I certainly can't let them take over my living space, but at the same time who am I to kill them? What if other superior entities felt the same about us humans? .............gulp.

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    Today a deer, young male came out of the forrest 100 feet from Maria
    and me, we were sitting on our front stair drinking coffee and tea. It was eating
    weeds and grass. I spoke with it and waved to it. It just ignored us. One
    of our cats tried to impress the deer, pretending to attack it and tried to
    look really big. The deer just looked at it, but once it lowered his head
    and pretended an attack on the cat. They seemed to be playing,
    I told Maria, that I would have big
    difficulties shooting that deer. She said, lucky you, you dont have to, we
    have food enough, if we had been starving it had been a different situation.
    If one is in real need I might have been forced to kill it.
    It was a magic moment lasting for half an hour. LOL





    All is well


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    I found a black widow spider in my daughters bedroom yesterday. Yes, crawling across her bed. YIKES .................I humbly captured it in a clear plastic box for further inspection and identification. Then went for a walk over at the state park where I set it free. Ten years ago I would have killed it, just from fear. It feels good to reach this point of awareness, for sure.

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    I'm always fighting ants coming into my kitchen. I kill them one by one, but often feel a sense of remorse. I certainly can't let them take over my living space, but at the same time who am I to kill them? What if other superior entities felt the same about us humans? .............gulp.


    they do, and we are being exterminated one by one.

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    I found a black widow spider in my daughters bedroom yesterday. Yes, crawling across her bed. YIKES .................I humbly captured it in a clear plastic box for further inspection and identification. Then went for a walk over at the state park where I set it free. Ten years ago I would have killed it, just from fear. It feels good to reach this point of awareness, for sure.

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    I'm always fighting ants coming into my kitchen. I kill them one by one, but often feel a sense of remorse. I certainly can't let them take over my living space, but at the same time who am I to kill them? What if other superior entities felt the same about us humans? .............gulp.


    they do, and we are being exterminated one by one.
    but they are not superior! They just currently have the advantage.

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    Quote Posted by conk (here)
    Quote Posted by starchild111 (here)
    I found a black widow spider in my daughters bedroom yesterday. Yes, crawling across her bed. YIKES .................I humbly captured it in a clear plastic box for further inspection and identification. Then went for a walk over at the state park where I set it free. Ten years ago I would have killed it, just from fear. It feels good to reach this point of awareness, for sure.

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    I'm always fighting ants coming into my kitchen. I kill them one by one, but often feel a sense of remorse. I certainly can't let them take over my living space, but at the same time who am I to kill them? What if other superior entities felt the same about us humans? .............gulp.


    they do, and we are being exterminated one by one.
    but they are not superior! They just currently have the advantage.
    You are so right , very good point conk.!!

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    Sean, you beauty!

    That is exactly how I see it. Tiny folk are an expression of life, of spirit, and not only do I never kill them, I spend energy on helping them out of scrapes they are not clever enough to fathom. Like my bath-tub, for instance. I've only ever been stung once by a wasp, and it was in late summer when they're tired and sluggish. This little guy stung me on the hand, which I'd rested where I sit at the computer without knowing he was there. When I realized what had happened I saw that it was completely self-defence, not attack. He ended up sitting next to my coffee mug and even crawling over my hand, and he was completely cool with that. He wanted the warmth and we understood each other.

    (p.s. Starchild111, a black widow? That was pretty damned brave of you! Not sure what I would do in that circumstance.)
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    Quote Posted by conk (here)
    I'm always fighting ants coming into my kitchen. I kill them one by one, but often feel a sense of remorse. I certainly can't let them take over my living space, but at the same time who am I to kill them? What if other superior entities felt the same about us humans? .............gulp.
    sprinkle cayenne pepper around where they come in & out

    & talking, respectfully, to them -- a good chance to develop your telepathic abilities -- they do listen -- & have so much to teach us

    i have had WAY more Animal friends than Human -- tho Humans are actually Animals also

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    Lovely post STW,

    reminds me the first time that I consciously paid greater attention to the little ones - after years of panic because someone told me that bugs and such were not welcome - I went to a buddhist retreat for a few days and one lunch hour, with a monk sitting close by, a mosquito came to rest on my hand as I was eating a bowl of soup.

    At the moment, it was like hyper reality switched on, that mozzie was suddenly so important, and what is more, it was communicating with me! I looked over at the monk and he half grinned at me.

    Usually after 3 seconds, the stingers were already in. This time, I said, you and me, we are just spending time together, yes? And I trust you right now, there is going to be no biting.

    And damn, it stayed with me for about 5 minutes as I slurped on some more soup. And off it went.
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    Thanks Sean so True,,,, I have learned that lesson and am very conscious of all creatures big and small we are all part of one and should have respect for all creatures, I'm sure everyone's heard the saying she or he wont even harm a fly,,, well that has become me, lol. And I feel like a better person for it. I think it is part of being awake and living life in a conscious state of mind being accountable for my actions every second of the day... you protected the small aphid and enlightened your Mother as well.
    The Truth will find you out!

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    Thanks Sean for opening up dialogue about this facet of our relations with the Earth.
    Many of us are awakening to this necessity and are finding new ways of responding to the animal kingdom in all of its stunning diversity. I laughed about the ants...in the same place here with that and carpenter bees (which are generally very gentle, yet destructive). Crafting a new relationship with all winged creatures is a continual practice for me in particular...especially when dealing, on a daily basis with creatures which can potentially kill us and/or impart powerful, viral toxins into our bloodstream. Venom, as it is sometimes called.

    Then there are hornets, to which this body is...highly allergic. Lately for me, a meaningful test has come about through this wondrous creature, the Copperhead. I have trapped 13 in the past three years, 3 so far this spring. Most folk in these mountains unquestionably, without hesitation shoot them, for where you find one, you will find eventually a family of them. I cannot and will not however...thus hours of effort to humanely, with reverence, awe and significant frustration at times, relocate them. Trapping and releasing wasps, snakes (et al) is part of my "average" day now. A potent meditation it has become and is. For those with the responsibility of protecting young children and animals, matters become more complex, I do understand and is another worthy conversation. Teaching and raising our young of this reverence and respect for all life is critical at this point

    I also concur about speaking to all creatures. I had a sister years ago who talked to wasps and if she asked them to move on to a new dwelling, within 24-48 hours, they were gone. No sprays, no chemicals, no killing. An agreement of mutual respect. I now attempt to do the same and can attest, it works some/much of the time, to the degree and level our awareness and understanding of our magical environment grows. Challenges and lessons clearly remain however...an ongoing process it is. I am grateful for the webs and nests of all sentient life...and there is no fear or enmity.

    Sometimes, we humans, these fragile vehicles...
    get bit on our evolutionary path.

    Peace all.

    This is a juvenile with the yellow tail still visible...beautiful!
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    what a nice thread -- i feel safe here (:

    i have a conviction in my heart that if & when the Shift comes, only those who are willing to live in non-violence , in peace, w/ALL living beings will make the Shift to 5D -- the Souls of Mother Earth & all the other created forms of life here will lead the way

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    Thanks Sean for opening up dialogue about this facet of our relations with the Earth.
    Many of us are awakening to this necessity and are finding new ways of responding to the animal kingdom in all of its stunning diversity. I laughed about the ants...in the same place here with that and carpenter bees (which are generally very gentle, yet destructive). Crafting a new relationship with all winged creatures is a continual practice for me in particular...especially when dealing, on a daily basis with creatures which can potentially kill us and/or impart powerful, viral toxins into our bloodstream. Venom, as it is sometimes called.

    Then there are hornets, to which this body is...highly allergic. Lately for me, a meaningful test has come about through this wondrous creature, the Copperhead. I have trapped 13 in the past three years, 3 so far this spring. Most folk in these mountains unquestionably, without hesitation shoot them, for where you find one, you will find eventually a family of them. I cannot and will not however...thus hours of effort to humanely, with reverence, awe and significant frustration at times, relocate them. Trapping and releasing wasps, snakes (et al) is part of my "average" day now. A potent meditation it has become and is. For those with the responsibility of protecting young children and animals, matters become more complex, I do understand and is another worthy conversation. Teaching and raising our young of this reverence and respect for all life is critical at this point

    I also concur about speaking to all creatures. I had a sister years ago who talked to wasps and if she asked them to move on to a new dwelling, within 24-48 hours, they were gone. No sprays, no chemicals, no killing. An agreement of mutual respect. I now attempt to do the same and can attest, it works some/much of the time, to the degree and level our awareness and understanding of our magical environment grows. Challenges and lessons clearly remain however...an ongoing process it is. I am grateful for the webs and nests of all sentient life...and there is no fear or enmity.

    Sometimes, we humans, these fragile vehicles...
    get bit on our evolutionary path.

    Peace all.

    This is a juvenile with the yellow tail still visible...beautiful!
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    'No To Violence' by Supersoul Connection , a Slovenian band


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    Great feedback guys, really loving this thread, it's so warm and is needed as off late, it seems the earth spirit understands us.
    We are off her after all

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    Once upon a time................I was very depressed. I had divorced, was broke, alone, and had been betrayed by someone close. Often I would sit on the back porch and just stare at the trees or walk around and around the yard in barefeet. On one of my trips around the yard I spotted a tiny squirrel perched on a low tree limb. As a little test I walked toward him, seeing how close I could get before he ran up the tree. To my delight he allowed me to walk directly up to him, with inches. "Hey little buddy, where's your mother"? His head twisted sideways as if to listen intently. As I said a few more things to him he sprang off the tree on to my shoulder. Gasp! For a second I thought he was attacking me, but instantly realized it was much more. He needed a friend too. I walked back to the porch and he stayed with me. Next we went into the kitchen where I shared some raw pecans. The little bugger really like those! After quite a few nibbles he scampered back up my arm. "I HAVE A PET SQUIRREL"! My cousin came by and begged me for him. As my cousin lived in a country setting it seemed more appropriate for it to live there, so I gave in. He stayed with us for many years. Will never forget that furry friend, he showed up when I really needed a smile. He helped change my attitude and over the next few weeks my depression lifted and has not returned. Most wonderful experience.

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