“Coalition of 138 nations”? Anyone have a list?

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by Mozart (here)

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Contrary to what the most worshipful followers of BF, DW, Drake want us to believe, we are not idiots! Follow the sources and they are always the same players.

Yes, I've done searches and have noticed that this information tends to circle back to the same sources and that has bothered me to see that other sources are not covering this information in depth.


But Fulford has been vindicated on a large number of key points that he'd been talking about for years -- with no other corroborating information on the net -- yet to be validated eventually, like with the Keenan lawsuit, the Asian caches of gold, etc.


Not all of Fulford's information panned out, of course, so don't misconstrue what I'm saying here.


Skepticism is always useful and I welcome that.


If the mass arrests don't happen and if the ****ing dark bastard cabal are not defeated, once and for all, anytime this ****ing year, I just don't ****ing know how I'm going to respond to those events, quite frankly. <sigh>


Meanwhile I am well-prepared with food, water, etc in a rural area, so I'm ok. It's the big cities that I worry about. But you must keep in mind that the players in this drama on Earth are so big, bigger than you can imagine (the ETs/EDs), so I seriously doubt that they would allow our Earth to descend down into horrible Mad-Max-like scenarios on the whole of our Earth with massive destabilization everywhere.


No, I just don't see that happening.


~Mozart

Mozart, I hear your heart, and my words are not meant as condemnation. I understand what you are saying, I just do not agree regarding the disintigration of society. This is a plan spelled out and already implimented in many other countries. It works and it works extremely well. The Arab sprint uprising was not some organic development from the lowly people. It was agent provocateurs inciting violence and upheavel. There was immense propaganda used, and the Muslim Brotherhood is just another CIA operation (ALL CIA DUH is al-Qaeda) It's just another operation to bring thew world under control politically, strategically, and economically.

Bezmenov spelled it out for us and it's happening to the letter.

Demoralize is stage 1. Upset the foundation of the society.

Destabalize is stage 2. Once the people are no longer connected and unified, start stirring up trouble economically, politically and religiously / socially.

Crisis is stage 3. Once the country is properly destabalized and the population is talking change, change change, then you start protests, riots, and cover the story day and night so the people think it really is a people's movement and thus they need to support it as well.

Normalization is stage 4. That is the part just after the crisis and violence. Get your people into position, set up the new government, and get rid of anyone who is not on board with you.

It works. It worked in the Old Russian Empire for their people revolution. It worked in Nazi Germany for their socialist revolution. It worked in Vietnam, Korea, China, Cambodia, Egypt, Syria, and it's coming to a neighborhood near you in the West very soon. You saw them lay the groundwork for this last year with the OWS movement. Now, they are laying the groundwork for anarchy as an option with the news this past week of OWS people planning to blow up a bridge and other infrastructure. Of course they don't tell you about the FBI plant who talked them into it or supplied them with the C4 and turned them in at the "last moment". No, it's all propaganda to get the people thinking a certain way.

Anarchy is coming. It is not a grass roots movement, but the elite have made sure to sew anger, hatred, unrest, and division to lay the foundation so when it does kick off, they can blame the same people, come in as saviors and as the population cries peace peace peace, the elites stop the violence and set up their normalized government which was the goal all along. We will need a whole new way of doing things. Those who can't get on board will need "re-education" and those who simply won't go along will disappear. This system works.

Very few people are "hero's". The weapons against the people are great and powerful. At this time, the only weapon more powerful is prayer from a contrite heart seeking God. But, they destroyed all ideas of God and contrite humble hearts. We will get just what we deserve and it's been promised for a very very long time.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

This man never stops being interesting, must have watched this 12 times or so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Bezmenov

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fQoGMtE0EY

And please think of this when taking in consideration the current world situation, the man in the video`s is only oneman of many many thousends of men of every race, nationality and color and political orientation who are experts in above named tactics, effective, not very pretty, but ingenious and again, effective, just look around you.

[Unified Serenity]

Look at how this chart lays out subverting a nation and ask yourself if this has happened in America and other Western countries:

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
Look at how this chart lays out subverting a nation and ask yourself if this has happened in America and other Western countries:

Thanks US, i saved it, do you have more of his works?

I see this is page 22 from a book, i dont have it unfortunatly.

Regards

Ed

EDIT, and o Yeah, it happened allright

[Unified Serenity]

Bezmenov wrote a book under the name Thomas Schuman called No "Novosti" is good news. Here is the scribd link:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/78300796/N...-and-terrorism

You can do a search on scribd of Bezmenov, but here is another document:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/61295141/Stages-of-Subversion

[DreamsInDigital]

US, et al

Who do YOU guys consider credible sources then? Since we obviously can't trust ANY Mainstream Sources, and it's a grab bag with Alternative Sources, who's left?

[Unified Serenity]

You know dreams that's a good question. I would say that if a "whistleblower" is going to get on the radio or do an interview to not rehash old stuff and pretend they are someone special when most of us have already heard the stuff. Don't make grand statements with no specifics. Don't say, "Trust me" and don't expect me to take BF or DW's word for it that "they've been vetted" because they like to just vouch for one another.

DW: "Hey Ben, I am going to interview this guy who says this financial cabal is going to come down and he is tied into the white knights. Do you know him".

BF: "yeh David, he's a top notch insider and has lots of good news"

DW: "Hello radio land and most worshipful fans, I have a great guest on today who is going to tell you all about stuff you all know and he is on our side. He's a good guy and I have vetted him".

So, if someone can reveal something factual we don't know and offer some evidence then I don't care what the source is, it's worth listening to. If all they do is talk about stuff we have known for years and then share their spiritual view of the world then I don't find them credible as a "whistleblower". I might agree with all they say, but as far as them doing anymore than any of us do then no, I don't care about what they have to say as some new "star". Join the forum, chat and share views, but don't try to portray yourself as some insider. To me its just one more charletan looking to make a buck, get in on a speaking engagement, or just wants the attention.

If they move the goal posts then they are a fraud in my book. I've just seen it too many times. Give us a great story, we all like it, get hopes up, give us a date time frame and then.... Ummmm it's moved to next month or something this year..... That crap won't fly anymore for me.

[9eagle9]

It is amazing over the last year and half since I've been on the forum , how people rush to back here-say. One flavor of the month rises, the same faces flock to support them, the FOTM doesn't so much fade away as burn out, the next FOTM rides in on the coat tails of the last, the same faces flock, the same burnout occurs , rinse and repeat.

Established patterns of events. Like watching a tennis game. The ball goes from Ben's court, to David's court, to Drake's court and within three months time some other reigning king or queen of drama will arise to put the ball in motion one more time. The same people over and over rush to back this stuff. They can't find their own arse with both hands but somehow are convinced these people are the real deal.

Its like the ill going to see the pseudo-healer. Even though the ill remains ill the pseudo healer assures them they are really cured. Just in ways that won't be revealed to them until...........

There's all sorts of evidence...but we can't show it to you.

I'm sorry we MISUNDERSTOOD, it seems all your positive intentions have changed the arrest dates to May 5th, 2013 (which is real date of 2012). ie: the failure for said even is really your fault...in a nice way.

Now in the year and half since I've observing this directly, that would be several opportunities to take that time, and have all that energy directed at one's own self empowerment. I suggest throwing the bait out and snapping it back is just a means of preventing people from persuing their own course of self empowerment.(or at least noticing the regular and monotonous pattern of repeat)

It works. Hell if someone kept promising me they were going to drop in and clean my house, I'd not be anxious to load the dishwasher on my own. Thing is after two or three promises and there's no cleaning crew here,.......

Then there are those who are not only still waiting for the cleaning crew but excusing them for their failure to exhibit a mop, a bucket, a vaccumn....

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are we aware that we have about 195 nations in the world and 138 nations constitutes more than 3/4's of the worlds nations who are 'allegedly' involved in this yet there is not a shred of evidence, in spite of that vast amount, not a whisper from anywhere that 3/4's of the world's nations are in collusion.

Going back over a broader picture anything that is for the betterment of mankind is always some vast secret. Which is probably why mankind has not had their condition appreciably better-ed.

[Sebastion]

It always has to be a secret. Lots of money in secrets.

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
It is amazing over the last year and half since I've been on the forum , how people rush to back here-say. One flavor of the month rises, the same faces flock to support them, the FOTM doesn't so much fade away as burn out, the next FOTM rides in on the coat tails of the last, the same faces flock, the same burnout occurs , rinse and repeat.

Established patterns of events. Like watching a tennis game. The ball goes from Ben's court, to David's court, to Drake's court and within three months time some other reigning king or queen of drama will arise to put the ball in motion one more time. The same people over and over rush to back this stuff. They can't find their own arse with both hands but somehow are convinced these people are the real deal.

Its like the ill going to see the pseudo-healer. Even though the ill remains ill the pseudo healer assures them they are really cured. Just in ways that won't be revealed to them until...........

There's all sorts of evidence...but we can't show it to you.

I'm sorry we MISUNDERSTOOD, it seems all your positive intentions have changed the arrest dates to May 5th, 2013 (which is real date of 2012). ie: the failure for said even is really your fault...in a nice way.

Now in the year and half since I've observing this directly, that would be several opportunities to take that time, and have all that energy directed at one's own self empowerment. I suggest throwing the bait out and snapping it back is just a means of preventing people from persuing their own course of self empowerment.(or at least noticing the regular and monotonous pattern of repeat)

It works. Hell if someone kept promising me they were going to drop in and clean my house, I'd not be anxious to load the dishwasher on my own. Thing is after two or three promises and there's no cleaning crew here,.......

Then there are those who are not only still waiting for the cleaning crew but excusing them for their failure to exhibit a mop, a bucket, a vaccumn....

¤=[Post Update]=¤

are we aware that we have about 195 nations in the world and 138 nations constitutes more than 3/4's of the worlds nations who are 'allegedly' involved in this yet there is not a shred of evidence, in spite of that vast amount, not a whisper from anywhere that 3/4's of the world's nations are in collusion.

Going back over a broader picture anything that is for the betterment of mankind is always some vast secret. Which is probably why mankind has not had their condition appreciably better-ed.

[sdv]

Common sense never lets you down. Here are some examples of common sense (in bold):

are we aware that we have about 195 nations in the world and 138 nations constitutes more than 3/4's of the worlds nations who are 'allegedly' involved in this yet there is not a shred of evidence, in spite of that vast amount, not a whisper from anywhere that 3/4's of the world's nations are in collusion

All Google searches lead back to David Wilcock so do I need to explain the absurdity of this as proof (or any kind of evidence at all- how can a person say that proof that what they say is true is because they said it?)

Here is what the so-called Monaco Accord is:

The Principality of Monaco is a sovereign and independent state, linked closely to France by the Treaty of 1918, the text of which has international recognition because it is confirmed by Article 436 of the Treaty of Versailles of 1919, which instituted a contractual, bilateral, and reciprocal regime between the two states. The foreign policy of Monaco is one illustration of this accord: France has agreed to defend the independence and sovereignty of Monaco, while the Monegasque Government has agreed to exercise its sovereign rights in conformity with French interests. Since then, the relations between the sovereign states of France and Monaco have been further defined in the Treaty of 1945 and the Agreement of 1963.

Now read this piece of common sense and move on!

Just imagine the necessary logistics for the meeting of these 138 countries. Each country carrying a staff of at lest 20 people (security, secretaries, etc..). Plus the necessary resources to organize such meeting (hotels, security plans, etc...). Plus the press, which is all over even the most "secret" political/economic meetings.

Even the most secret meetings involving very important persons are hard to be kept in secret these days...

So, if there is really such official agreement between 138 nations, it would be so hard, almost impossible to keep it secret.

These are just a few variables of many. Imagine the diplomatic consequences of such an agreement. Small countries that would be part of it would be covered with sanctions from the US and EU just for thinking of signing such document.

So, if there really is such an agreement, it would certainly be traceable. That´s for sure

For those of you who do not know it, Monaco is a very very small country. Now, try some common sense thinking and apply it to what DW says about the Monaco Accord (which is actually an agreement between Monaco and France).

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
US, et al

Who do YOU guys consider credible sources then? Since we obviously can't trust ANY Mainstream Sources, and it's a grab bag with Alternative Sources, who's left?

Everything and anybody until they stop being credible and i have made up my mind about what they are saying, but i am very aware that how i interpret things is only my interpretation of thruth or credibility, there is plenty of things i miss while informing myself, being here on the forum has in turn strenghtened my resolve and kicked it in the face multiple times, i become more sceptical (reserved) as time progresses and i like that a whole lot better.

So whoever makes me a stronger independent thinker ( whether its bs or something i believe in makes no difference anymore) is credible to me.

Rather vague eh?

Cant help it, thats how things are now for me.

[mariposafe]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
.......are we aware that we have about 195 nations in the world and 138 nations constitutes more than 3/4's of the worlds nations who are 'allegedly' involved in this yet there is not a shred of evidence, in spite of that vast amount, not a whisper from anywhere that 3/4's of the world's nations are in collusion....

Precisely !!!!

[9eagle9]

A credible source would be as noted above. Someone who applies common sense (that ever elusive 6th sense) . They create a framework of cause and effect, and who is to gain from any circumstance of nefarious assholery. They don't claim to have all the answers, they don't need an army of followers to support their position, or create their own business around the 'business of complaining about other's business'. One who has what they are talking about reflected in their own life.

Speculative logic.

Keeps it impersonal.

Presents their evidence for what it is and allows it to stand on it's own. It speaks for itself, one doesn't have to narrate ever shred of evidence. You do that and a potato chip vaguely shaped like the Virgin Mary will assume holy aspects.

Instead of handwaving and saying "all secrets will be revealed' prefers to be honest and state that some information isn't known at this time.

Opens speculation up to the public (given as this is everyone's situation)

Leaves out the magickal fillers like Ex Deus Machina ' (which is what many early social programming scripts revolve around if one studies the history of cinema)

Impresses that they have some direct experience with the topic at hand and has experienced circumstances in a first person sort of way.

A simple I don't know tends to lend more credibility to any whistlelblower than 'I know everything and will dollop it out as sheep fodder as I please."

And of course employs common sense.

Can provide compelling physical and circumstantial evidence.

Does not mean they are right, or are bearing an unrefutable truth but they have credibility.

In every recession here in the US, in every instance when a corporation has gone belly up in the public eye under the allegations of embezzlement, cooking the books, a slew of CEO's , Financial Officers, etc are fired or replaced, or even arrested depending the nature of the financial pandering like Kenneth Lay and the Enron debacle.

That's business. What the shareholders going to say 'Oh you suck, you've raped my residual income but we'll let you stay" .

It's business. Forgive my ignorance but I have spent 20 years in the world of business, during recessive and depressive dips, and at no time did I see god wandering corporate halls arresting people or serving papers. Only in 2012 could people believe that God has become a process server.

One notices that the occult nature of the date 5/5/2012 --the date of the intimation into the 'mass arrests' --and the framework that the date falls within has been virtually unmentioned. Drake may be unwittingly aligning himself with a energy that he'd rather not be aligned with. And of course his adherents will dive right in.

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
US, et al

Who do YOU guys consider credible sources then? Since we obviously can't trust ANY Mainstream Sources, and it's a grab bag with Alternative Sources, who's left?

Everything and anybody until they stop being credible and i have made up my mind about what they are saying, but i am very aware that how i interpret things is only my interpretation of thruth or credibility, there is plenty of things i miss while informing myself, being here on the forum has in turn strenghtened my resolve and kicked it in the face multiple times, i become more sceptical (reserved) as time progresses and i like that a whole lot better.

So whoever makes me a stronger independent thinker ( whether its bs or something i believe in makes no difference anymore) is credible to me.

Rather vague eh?

Cant help it, thats how things are now for me.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
A credible source would be as noted above. Someone who applies common sense (that ever elusive 6th sense) . They create a framework of cause and effect, and who is to gain from any circumstance of nefarious assholery. They don't claim to have all the answers, they don't need an army of followers to support their position, or create their own business around the 'business of complaining about other's business'. One who has what they are talking about reflected in their own life.

Speculative logic.

Keeps it impersonal.

Presents their evidence for what it is and allows it to stand on it's own. It speaks for itself, one doesn't have to narrate ever shred of evidence. You do that and a potato chip vaguely shaped like the Virgin Mary will assume holy aspects.

Instead of handwaving and saying "all secrets will be revealed' prefers to be honest and state that some information isn't known at this time.

Opens speculation up to the public (given as this is everyone's situation)

Lives the magickal fillers like Ex Deus Machina ' (which is what many early social programming scripts revolve around if one studies the history of cinema)

Impresses that they have some direct experience with the topic at hand and has experienced circumstances in a first person sort of way.

A simple I don't know tends to lend more credibility to any whistlelblower than 'I know everything and will dollop it out as sheep fodder as I please."

And of course employs common sense.

Can provide compelling physical and circumstantial evidence.

Does not mean they are right, or are bearing an unrefutable truth but they have credibility.

In every recession here in the US, in every instance when a corporation has gone belly up in the public eye under the allegations of embezzlement, cooking the books, a slew of CEO's , Financial Officers, etc are fired or replaced, or even arrested depending the nature of the financial pandering like Kenneth Lay and the Enron debacle.

That's business. What the shareholders going to say 'Oh you suck, you've raped my residual income but we'll let you stay" .

It's business. Forgive my ignorance but I have spent 20 years in the world of business, during recessive and depressive dips, and at no time did I see god wandering corporate halls arresting people or serving papers. Only in 2012 could people believe that God has become a process server.

One notices that the occult nature of the date 5/5/2012 --the date of the intimation into the 'mass arrests' --and the framework that the date falls within has been virtually unmentioned. Drake may be unwittingly aligning himself with a energy that he'd rather not be aligned with. And of course his adherents will dive right in.

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
US, et al

Who do YOU guys consider credible sources then? Since we obviously can't trust ANY Mainstream Sources, and it's a grab bag with Alternative Sources, who's left?

Everything and anybody until they stop being credible and i have made up my mind about what they are saying, but i am very aware that how i interpret things is only my interpretation of thruth or credibility, there is plenty of things i miss while informing myself, being here on the forum has in turn strenghtened my resolve and kicked it in the face multiple times, i become more sceptical (reserved) as time progresses and i like that a whole lot better.

So whoever makes me a stronger independent thinker ( whether its bs or something i believe in makes no difference anymore) is credible to me.

Rather vague eh?

Cant help it, thats how things are now for me.

Now what just happened here ?

Quoted in a good or a bad way, i sometimes kinda cant keep up with your speed, and your raging intellect

translating my thought from dutch to english is not always easy, but to be more clear about what i said above, if it stands up it stands up, if it does not it does not. ( whether something holds water is a subjective thing and kinda personal, as i observed on the forum at least.)