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    This weeks essay from James Yoseph...July 16, 2012

    I received a question this morning from a severely injured statin victim.

    His question was, “James, what are your thoughts on how to bring this evil to an end?”

    My answer as follows:

    I am not sure it can be. It is so entrenched that our whole culture is brainwashed into believing in it. I fear it will take a catastrophe of monumental proportions to get it done.

    Nevertheless I hope to the contrary. If it is to stop then it requires keeping our credibility in place. With our available information we can document everything before going public. The critics can then only lie and obfuscate. Those tactics become transparent. The answer to them becomes ridicule.

    I do not defend my position. If I am right, then no defense is required and being defensive undermines trust. I have nothing to defend. The facts speak for themselves.

    I believe that if there is an answer it will be done with provable facts, going public then following through by continually stirring the pot. It will take bulldog determination and dedication. People, who try, typically are angry and frustrated. Those emotions burn out and they quit in discouragement. Satan wins.

    It requires an inner work. We must be free of our own greed, lust for authority and anger. Those things are what got us in this mess in the first place. Revolutions begin in the hearts and minds of men. If they take place in the streets then we end up with a whole new set of bastards to dominate us.

    If we can do that individually and collectively then Truth trumps lies and obfuscations every time. God wins.

    Persistence, determination and living in the reality that it may not happen in our lifetime are what will make it happen. We must be in it for the long haul and keep a close rein on our impatience.

    If our motive is to help our fellow man as opposed to bring down the powers that be, we can win this battle. The powers that be will fall under the weight of their own wrongs.

    Buddha, The Christ, Gandhi, St Francis and Martin Luther King changed the world for the better. That is the only change I am interested in.

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    This weeks essay from James Yoseph...July 20, 2012

    We are losing the best and brightest of our culture and society. Seventy five million Americans mostly middle aged and older are taking statin drugs. The vast majority of people in that group are being poisoned by a deadly mycotoxin.

    We are corresponding with people all over the world who have been injured. The worst stories are those with the mentally debilitating effects of statin use. Depression, rage, loss of memory, global amnesia and delusional paranoia lead the list of these terrible consequences. The effects on family, jobs and relationships are worse than horrific.

    That stains remain on the market is diabolical. It is not just greed that drives the people and companies behind them; it is indifference. The facts are in. The studies have been done. There is nothing but indifference that could keep this deadly plague in place.

    The losses in productivity are astronomical. The medical cost of treating the diseases they cause or exacerbate is breaking the back of our nation and the world.

    I fear we have let our reader down. We understated the case against this monstrous evil. It becomes very personal when we sit and weep for the hurting souls who have had this drug foisted off on them by their doctors, big pharma, the FDA , the NIH , the AMA and the rest of the cohorts in this debacle.

    This insanity must stop.

    We are starting a forum for statin injured victims similar in scope and purpose of askapatient.com There, will be posted all available info including books from any and all authors and a forum for all statin victims to share their experience and hope. All information will be reviewed by a mediator for its usefulness and appropriateness to the central topic of statin injuries. At this forum our books will be available for free to all who cannot afford them and for as long as we can afford to send them.

    This forum will be the beginning of a central clearing house to gather information on the as yet unpublished true scope of statin injury. It will also serve as a place for people to seek legal counsel and be linked to other helpful sites as people may wish.

    Today, we received another arrogant letter from a Harvard MD who had not read the book but knew it was bunk anyway. He said we obviously did not know what we were doing and about all the new studies that were coming out in favor of statins. That is the problem exactly. We do know about all the new bogus studies that continue to come out in contradiction of the facts.

    Again, this madness must stop

    James Yoseph July 20, 2012

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    Just found this also.... less than 8 minutes...

    Great find Kimberly, what about using this greed you were talking about in a different why or direction.

    A lawyer or law firm hungry for money would gain in a global or local, class action law suite, just like they do with asbestos and tobacco adds on TV. Billions of dollars to be paid out, hit the drug companies below the belt. John xoxo

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    "Your Homocysteine level is a more accurate predictor than cholesterol of our risk of heart attack or stroke."

    "Homocysteine reflects the health of your genes." say Patrick Holford and Dr James Braly MD in their 2003 publication "The H Factor". "Your H score is more important than your weight, your blood pressure or your cholesterol level. It is your most vital, preventable and reversible health statistic." and "Your Homocysteine level is a more accurate predictor than cholesterol of our risk of heart attack or stroke."

    So why aren't doctors looking at it? They can. And YOU can ask your GP to do the blood test - a fasting plasma homocysteine. The Labs will give "normal levels" as 6.5 - 11.9mmol/L or even higher but Halford recommends a level below 6.

    Clinipath results here in WA come back with a notation for the doctor that says - "Elevated Homocysteine levels are associated with increased independent risk of cardiovascular disease. A 5 mmol/L rise in HoCy correlates to a 0.5mmol/L increase in Cholesterol. Elevations are also found in anaemia, genetic homocystinuria, renal disease, deficiencies of B group vitamins B12, Folate, Pyridoxine (ie B6) and some drug therapies."

    Royal Perth Hospital began a study about 4-5 years ago on the effectiveness of using B12, B6 and folic acid to lower homocysteine levels. This was replicating previous similar studies already undertaken in other parts of the world. I'm not sure what stage this present study at Royal Perth Hospital has reached but we don't need to wait.

    The new book by Holford, brings in some more essential nutrients that are needed for these same chemical pathways to occur. We, the public, have not been told of these additional essential co-factors - namely B2, zinc, magnesium and choline (or TMG).
    HOMOCYSTEINE is a naturally occurring by-product of methionine metabolism in the body. Methionine is an amino acid, ie part of food proteins and is found primarily in meats, eggs, dairy products, fish, chicken, seeds, nuts and some vegetables. Homocysteine pathways normally pave the way to body production of other essentials including glutathione a powerful detoxifier in the body on the one hand and brain chemicals serotonin (the happy hormone), melatonin (sleep and mood improving hormone), dopamine (euphoria hormone) and adrenaline (the fight and flight hormone).

    According to Holford, the reason Homocysteine accumulates in the body causing cell damage and the onset of major disease, is because the biochemical transformation process is not working properly, usually due to lack of these needed vitamins and minerals for the given Homocysteine pathways.

    In this diagram, protein foods like meats in the diet breakdown to methionine then to homocysteine. Normally it then goes on to fulfil various important pathways to provide essential hormones etc. (SAMe is a metabolic precursor to the essential brain hormones.) If we are short on the needed vitamins and minerals for these pathsways we end up with dangerous excess homocysteine levels and ill health.

    So as you can see we do need homocysteine to get the end-result good things like serotonin, adrenaline, melatonin and dopamine and to detoxify in the liver but unless the other vitamin and mineral co-factors are present we end up building dangerous and damaging levels of homocysteine in the body. But we can fix this - take the appropriate supplements, have your GP test your H levels and get them down to 6.

    Why You Need to Have Your Homocysteine Levels Checked

    Many doctors limit their cardio screening process to a cholesterol and triglyceride test, despite the fact that other factors have been shown to contribute significantly to the development of heart disease. More Americans die each year from heart disease than from any other cause. This fact alone should make it standard practice to use every screening tool available to detect possible risk factors associated with heart disease. Cardiac specific c-reactive protein is a marker of inflammation in the blood vessels, now thought to be a serious risk factor in heart disease. In addition to c-reactive protein, there is a blood test that can reveal important information about a person’s risk level. This test measures levels of a blood marker called homocysteine.

    What Is Homocysteine?

    Homocysteine is a naturally occurring amino acid produced in our body by a process of conversions carried out during various metabolic cycles. In most people it does not stick around for long. Shortly after being synthesized, the body quickly metabolizes it back into a non-harmful amino acid. However, for various reasons some individuals do not efficiently recycle homocysteine, resulting in elevated blood levels of this potentially harmful amino acid.

    In 1968, a Harvard researcher observed that children with a specific genetic disorder that predisposed them to elevated homocysteine levels had a 50% increased risk of death due to vascular disease. He also observed that using interventions to lower homocysteine levels decreased this risk. He summarized that elevated homocysteine levels could serve as an independent risk factor for a person’s likelihood of developing vascular disease.

    Further research has confirmed his theory many times over. The most recent evidence of this was published in the Mayo Clinic Proceedings Journal in November of 2008. It evaluated the outcome of 26 other studies related to how homocysteine levels affect cardiovascular risk. The study was unique in that it was the first one to only use data from individuals who had never had coronary disease before. This is in response to two recent studies showing no benefit for B vitamin therapy among patients with established coronary heart disease. Having pre-existing coronary disease might mask potential benefits of lowering homocysteine using folic acid and other B vitamins.

    The results of the meta-analysis were impressive. It showed that every 5-point elevation in blood homocysteine levels resulted in a 20% increase risk for the development of coronary heart disease. This increase in risk is totally independent of any other factors that influence coronary heart disease development, which makes it a very significant risk factor in and of itself.

    What Is Normal?

    Normal – 5 to 15 µmol/L
    Moderate – 16 to 30 µmol/L
    Intermediate – 31 to 100 µmol/L
    Severe – Above 100 µmol/L
    There are many reasons why a person may have elevated homocysteine levels. To understand some of these reasons it is important to explain the process our body uses to naturally keep homocysteine levels low. Homocysteine is recycled into two other amino acids called methionine and cysteine. For this process to occur, some very key nutrients are needed. Folic acid, vitamin B6 and vitamin B12 are the primary nutrients needed to recycle homocysteine into non-harmful amino acids.

    A large percentage of the American population has elevated homocysteine levels. This is likely due to a poor diet devoid of the critical nutrients necessary for the conversion of homocysteine into its inert amino acid counterparts. Fast food and heavily processed foods can rob the body of important nutrients. Research has shown that switching to a diet that contains foods rich in folic acid and other B vitamins can reduce homocysteine levels. Dark leafy greens like spinach, kale and collard greens typically have the highest levels of folic acid. Whole grains like brown rice and other fruits and vegetables typically have high levels of vitamin B6. B12 is most commonly found in animal products. Some great sources include wild salmon, dairy products like yogurt and cheese, and eggs.

    The process of aging also creates an increased risk of elevated homocysteine levels due to decreased intestinal absorption of folic acid and other B vitamins. As we age, our digestive secretions such as stomach acid, bile acids and pancreatic enzymes decrease. This reduces the ability of our body to break down and extract nutrients from our foods.

    A small percentage of the American population has elevated homocysteine levels due to a genetic abnormality. The methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase enzyme (MTHFR) is the enzyme responsible for converting homocysteine into methinonine. The genetic abnormality affects the activity of this enzyme. Up to 10% of the population may have some form of this genetic irregularly and never know it unless tested properly. People with elevated homocysteine levels have a much higher risk of forming blood clots. This is of particular concern for people taking certain medications. Women who form blood clots while taking oral birth control pills or hormone replacement often have this genetic abnormality. Because the formation of blood clots can lead to life threatening conditions such as a pulmonary embolism, heart attack or stroke it should be standard practice to test for these genetic abnormalities before giving medications that might increase the risk of a potential problem. Patients receiving potent drugs for chemotherapy are also at a greater risk of forming clots if they have the MTHFR deficiency. Ten percent is a very high number when looking at the relative rate of a genetic abnormality in the general public.

    Why Is Homocysteine Bad for Me?

    Although it is not fully understood, there are several possible mechanisms that are responsible for homocysteine’s negative effect on the cardiovascular system.

    The initial trigger responsible for the initiation of plaque formation in an artery is injury. The delicate layer of endothethial cells that line our arteries are subject to damage from high blood pressure, toxins from alcohol, pollution and cigarette smoke and free radical damage. When that endothethial lining becomes damaged, the body is prompted to fix it by coating the damaged area with cholesterol. If other factors in the body are just right, that deposition of cholesterol can cascade into the formation of an artery blocking plaque. Homocysteine is thought to be one of the unique compounds capable of causing the initial damage to the delicate lining of arteries and thus triggering the cascade of plaque formation.

    Another mechanism by which homocysteine can facilitate cardiovascular disease is related to its ability to make your platelets more likely to stick together. This increases the risk of clot formation and perpetuates the formation of arterial plaques.

    So How Can I Fix It?

    The first step is to identify if this is an issue for you. Asking your primary care doctor for a simple blood test to measure homocysteine is the first step. If elevated, there are several natural vitamins that can lower homocysteine levels.

    What Nutrients Should I Consider?

    The most important are going to be folic acid, B12 and B6. All three play a crucial role in the enzymatic steps necessary to convert homocysteine into its benign amino acid counterparts.

    Folic acid is one of the most important nutrients for lowering homocysteine levels. It is the primary nutrient used by the body for converting homocysteine into methionine. Doses anywhere from 1 mg to 10 mg are commonly used and seen to create significant drops in homocysteine levels in most individuals.

    B12 also plays an important role in the recycling process. It is most effective when given in its activated form often referred to as methylcobalamin. The more common form called cyanocobalamin has to be activated by the body before it can help with homocysteine metabolism making it less effective. B12 is best given as an injection or in a sublingual (dissolves under the tongue) lozenge.

    B6 plays an important role in the metabolism of homocysteine into something called cysteine. This is another recycling pathway the body has for homocysteine and works greatly in our favor because cysteine is a direct precursor to the potent antioxidant called glutathione. Glutathione plays a critical role in helping our body eliminate toxins via the liver and serves as the most potent circulating antioxidant. Again, it is recommended to use the activated form of B6 (pyridoxine-5 phosphate) to maximize effectiveness.

    Make sure to have your doctor check your blood homocysteine levels at your next visit. If your levels are high, adding folic acid, B12, and B6 to your supplement regimen is almost guaranteed to lower elevated homocysteine levels. And due to the absence of virtually any side effects and little known toxicity issues, this is a low risk way to greatly reduce a major risk factor for heart disease.
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    My wife's doctor tried to put her on statins and when I objected, I became "Public Enemy #1".

    She gave my wife some samples of that junk and while I told my wife not to take them, she tried them for two days and got an awful headache, so she stopped.

    That was about two years ago.

    I told my wife to eat more oatmeal in the morning. Lo' and behold, her last test showed her cholesterol levels down. I don't know if that was the cause, but as long as she doesn't take that crap, she'll be fine.

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    Default Re: Statin drugs kill one cell at a time! Plz share this information -It will save li

    Headlines in today's UK "Daily Mail" (One of the UK's biggest) :-

    GIVE STATINS TO ALL OVER-50s

    "Statins should be prescribed to all over-50s regardless of their health history, a leading British expert said yesterday"

    so says Sir Rory Collins (an Oxford University Professor), followed by a whole page article.

    OK, so who's right, and who's wrong ???

    JAMES YOSEPH versus SIR RORY COLLINS

    (Please don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger).

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    Headlines in today's UK "Daily Mail" (One of the UK's biggest) :-

    GIVE STATINS TO ALL OVER-50s

    "Statins should be prescribed to all over-50s regardless of their health history, a leading British expert said yesterday"

    so says Sir Rory Collins (an Oxford University Professor), followed by a whole page article.

    OK, so who's right, and who's wrong ???

    JAMES YOSEPH versus SIR RORY COLLINS

    (Please don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger).
    Does this Sir Rory back up his proposal with physiological science? Does he have ties to Big Pharma? Does he take them himself?
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    Does this Sir Rory back up his proposal with physiological science? Does he have ties to Big Pharma? Does he take them himself?
    He just might take statins himself. That might account for his limited mental acuities.

    I see similar affects in dentists who recommend mercury fillings .

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    Does this Sir Rory back up his proposal with physiological science? Does he have ties to Big Pharma? Does he take them himself?
    He just might take statins himself. That might account for his limited mental acuities.

    I see similar affects in dentists who recommend mercury fillings .
    Excellent point! Lol
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    A close Friend has just stopped taking statins because he was in so much pain that he could hardly walk, the pains started to disappear as soon as he stopped taking them. He was borderline diabetic and borderline cholesterol levels ......so the Dr put him on statins and diabetic drugs, just in case!

    He is on Metaformin for his diabetes and has had diarrhea for the last 3 weeks, he is weak and has lost a lot of weight and is still too scared to come off the diabetics drugs because he thinks something serious might happen to him!!!! He is not overweight and was fit and well before the medical profession got a hold of him.

    What will it take for some people to wake up. It's very sad to see someone who was fit and well reduced to this state ......just in case he might get what???? A few simple diet changes would have done the trick but oh no they want you to take their drugs.

    I dispair, my brother-in-law has come off statins after seeing the video as he was having such bad side effects and a another close friend is still on statins and complaining of leg pain amongst other things .... What will it take for people to realise just how bad these things are.

    All of them have pretty bad diets and from speaking to them would rather fix their problems by taking tablets rather that make the effort to change their lifestyle......cos why should they?

    Their attitude is very much like a another friend who has bowl cancer and said that there was no way he was changing his diet as in his words "I have eaten these foods for all of my life I am not going to change now" ..... hello, how did he think bowel cancer showed up, the clues are there......... he has been through so much pain, so many operations and yet absolutely refuses to even consider changing his diet in any way ....his diet is appalling ...... sorry rant over

    Oh and for anyone not in the UK, the Daily Mail is not the most reliable paper around .....they will sensationalise to get their point across - just my opinion obviously but just thought I would put that out there

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    My friend stopped taking Lipitor (a kind of statin drug) after I told him about this and showed him the video. But after 3 months stopping taking the drug, he did a test of his cholesterol level, and was alarmed that his Triglicerides number has trippled. He is considering taking Lipitor again. Can anyone give my friend an advice of how to lower his cholesterol level without taking statin drugs? He also takes Coq10, wonders if that helps.

    Thanks a lot,
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    My friend stopped taking Lipitor (a kind of statin drug) after I told him about this and showed him the video. But after 3 months stopping taking the drug, he did a test of his cholesterol level, and was alarmed that his Triglicerides number has trippled. He is considering taking Lipitor again. Can anyone give my friend an advice of how to lower his cholesterol level without taking statin drugs? He also takes Coq10, wonders if that helps.

    Thanks a lot,
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    Google Chris Kresser for his blog then search there for Cholesterol.

    In the meantime, your friend should cutting out ALL carbs (including sugar) and polyunsaturated fats.
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    I recently read the book THE HOMOCYSTEINE SOLUTION by Patrick Holford and Dr. James Braly (as mentioned in your post) because I had read a mention of it in one of David Icke's books. After reading the incredible number of things that appear to be cured by keeping a super-low homocysteine level (a LONG list), a couple of them really struck me: 1) it basically allows DNA to repair itself, and 2) it allows proper melatonin production from the infamous pineal gland!

    About 2 weeks ago I started a homocysteine vitamin regimen, and have some promising results so far:

    1-Energy and drive is up
    2-Healing is faster
    3-Sleep is sounder

    That said, I have to temper that by saying it's not like I suddenly feel 20 years younger. But there is definitely an effect, and you can take that from a guy who's tried many different vitamins and supplements over the years. Will keep you posted.

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