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    Default Special Warning: DHS Knows an Economic Collapse Is Coming..!

    Special Warning: DHS Knows an Economic Collapse Is Coming and That People Are Not Prepared..!

    related: “We are Preparing for Massive Civil War,” Says DHS Informant

    The following notes are from Private Investigator, Douglas Hagmann, who has a confidential contact within Department of Homeland Security. Doug writes, "Here are the notes I took during the early morning conversation I had with my DHS source 'Rosebud.' People need to understand that our own government KNOWS what is coming and is not only NOT telling the American people, but (they are) preparing for the worst."

    After transcribing Doug's notes, I phoned him and went through the material line by line with him making sure each line was correct as some words were in Doug's own "shorthand" and some weren't clearly written. He verified everything to be accurate.

    We've all seen things sent around the Internet and by the time they end up at your computer again, there's been some variation. While the change was likely inadvertent, it was nonetheless changed. This material is so important and it's critical none of Doug's words is altered or lives could be lost.

    Doug's scanned pages of his notes were also included at the bottom of this page as backup documentation to what he actually wrote. It is hoped that when people read this and begin sending it around that these will be included as well. —Thanks, Holly Deyo

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    May 4, 2012

    Douglas J. Hagmann
    Hagmann Investigative Services, Inc. and Northeast Intelligence Network

    1ST PAGE
    • Civil war is coming to the US, and there's no stopping it
    • DHS prepping for economic collapse and money will be worthless.
    • Never seen it this bad; everyone is talking about what they personally will do.
    • DHS brass don't care and are conducting overt actions in plain sight. Most incoming troops are not for training (some are) but as part of a larger force.
    • All know BHO (Barack Hussein Obama) is constitutionally illegitimate.
    • All in Congress know this, and their families are being threatened to keep them quiet.
    • High level News Corp. people talked to the highest at DHS and TSA. The plan is to get people conditioned to seeing troops, paramilitary – get them conditioned to being searched.
    • Dollar will collapse – that will be the bigger event. The trigger event starts in Europe and then heads here. When we see that – start counting because we have only days left.
    • Bernanke / Geitner / top level bankers will be in hiding.
    • Election year – watch BHO's body language. Does he look afraid of not getting elected? "WTF wake up."

    2ND PAGE
    • Then race riots, class riots.
    • Farrakhan is on DIA payroll and he will help start these riots.
    • Then Civil War, not sporadic riots and uprisings here and there.
    • There will be no food – no ETMs – no gas.
    • People will RUN to camps for assistance.
    • Guns must be abandoned and left with police in order to get food.
    • BHO & Bernanke are behind every stupid economic move.
    • Something with China troops here, but China debt to be called in – 5.5 trillion total.
    • Rosebud: How easy will will it be to quell 300+ million people?
    • No, the question is: How easy will it be to quell 300+ STARVING people who are unprepared?
    • Shoot to kill orders during collapse will be given to the police.

    End of meeting

    More later. Said next meeting 5 May (Sat.) outside of DC. Call Sunday





    http://standeyo.com/NEWS/12_USA/1205...n.warning.html

    PS - Forewarned is Forearmed...

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    Default Re: Special Warning: DHS Knows an Economic Collapse Is Coming..!

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46516

    This is an article that was posted today written by the same guy in the Canadian Free Press. FYI

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    Default Re: Special Warning: DHS Knows an Economic Collapse Is Coming..!

    Right wing flag waving, God-fearing, gun-toting, Obama hating, bar stool topping BS. Every Democratic president these people come out of the woodwork. Where were they when GWB was screwing things up and shoving the Patriot Act down our throats ?

    LOL. Notice the header: Canada Free Press; Because Without America, There is No Free World. Since America's not free anymore, they're kinda late on the uptake.

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    Working/Training DHS/FEMA I have never seen a PI hired so it is interesting news to me that any PI's are on "Confidential Contract" to these agencies. Usually other Fed groups have PI's do stuff they are not allowed to do or as convenient fall guys. I would like to know more about his role. They have all the expertise they need, hmmm, why would they need a PI? Can anyone enlighten me here? I would like to know more about him. There are to many "Paul Reveres" out there right now. Disinfo coming from all the usual soruces, and some of the sources in the ORIGINAL article that were listed are not trustworthy... but the game is a no win game for outsiders, sometimes they switch over and start using known disinfo (Outted Disinfo) agents to start reporting actual info. So it is impossible to know w/is real w/out knowing the "KEY WORD or PHRASE" in each article that lets the people in the know... know.

    BUT, you should have 3 months Food/Water and alternate currency (Gold/Silver)... just in case. Like in my previous posts be wise and wait and wtch before you jump on anyones side with your musket in hand.

    Don't be a puppet.

    If something does go down it might be for another reason than what they claim it is... you need to use you intuition and wisdom.
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    Quote Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
    Working/Training DHS/FEMA I have never seen a PI hired so it is interesting news to me that any PI's are on "Confidential Contract" to these agencies. Usually other Fed groups have PI's do stuff they are not allowed to do or as convenient fall guys. I would like to know more about his role. They have all the expertise they need, hmmm, why would they need a PI? Can anyone enlighten me here? I would like to know more about him. There are to many "Paul Reveres" out there right now. Disinfo coming from all the usual soruces, and some of the sources in the ORIGINAL article that were listed are not trustworthy... but the game is a no win game for outsiders, sometimes they switch over and start using known disinfo (Outted Disinfo) agents to start reporting actual info. So it is impossible to know w/is real w/out knowing the "KEY WORD or PHRASE" in each article that lets the people in the know... know.

    BUT, you should have 3 months Food/Water and alternate currency (Gold/Silver)... just in case. Like in my previous posts be wise and wait and wtch before you jump on anyones side with your musket in hand.

    Don't be a puppet.

    If something does go down it might be for another reason than what they claim it is... you need to use you intuition and wisdom.
    Hey mate,

    If this terrible things becomes true, I would advice not to rely even on gold and silver, because starving people have no use for either of those.

    Be sure to have plenty of useful things you can barter, like flashlights, lighters, batteries, gas, canned food, water, blankets, knives, socks, hygiene products and these sort of things.

    Bartering is the universal financial system during serious crisis.

    Cheers,

    Raf.
    The deepest sin against the human mind is to believe things without evidence - Aldous Huxley.

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    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Quote Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
    Working/Training DHS/FEMA I have never seen a PI hired so it is interesting news to me that any PI's are on "Confidential Contract" to these agencies. Usually other Fed groups have PI's do stuff they are not allowed to do or as convenient fall guys. I would like to know more about his role. They have all the expertise they need, hmmm, why would they need a PI? Can anyone enlighten me here? I would like to know more about him. There are to many "Paul Reveres" out there right now. Disinfo coming from all the usual soruces, and some of the sources in the ORIGINAL article that were listed are not trustworthy... but the game is a no win game for outsiders, sometimes they switch over and start using known disinfo (Outted Disinfo) agents to start reporting actual info. So it is impossible to know w/is real w/out knowing the "KEY WORD or PHRASE" in each article that lets the people in the know... know.

    BUT, you should have 3 months Food/Water and alternate currency (Gold/Silver)... just in case. Like in my previous posts be wise and wait and wtch before you jump on anyones side with your musket in hand.

    Don't be a puppet.

    If something does go down it might be for another reason than what they claim it is... you need to use you intuition and wisdom.
    Hey mate,

    If this terrible things becomes true, I would advice not to rely even on gold and silver, because starving people have no use for either of those.

    Be sure to have plenty of useful things you can barter, like flashlights, lighters, batteries, gas, canned food, water, blankets, knives, socks, hygiene products and these sort of things.

    Bartering is the universal financial system during serious crisis.

    Cheers,

    Raf.
    Yup, that’s why I said 3 months of food and water and supplies... the silver and gold is for the people that looted the supermarkets and organized criminals that will have all the medicines and batteries when all is said and done... you cannot eat silver or gold, but the crooks sitting on the stock piles of the things you want are sure going to put you at the front of the line if you have something shiny to barter with.

    Depending on how long the issue lasts... if more than 3 months and you run out of food or other items you will need to obtain them somehow... and the criminals are the ones that will have either looted/taken all of the resources or formed a trading station/system where people come to buy and sell... and will take their cuts of the action. DO have all of the food/water, medicine, power sources, shampoo, toilet paper, women’s hygiene and everything you can think of etc... First and foremost...

    But that stuff runs out at some point. The shiny stuff will help you obtain what you need... just keep how much of it you have a secret and be prepared to defend what you have (Yes, having fire arms and knowing how to use them)… you will want small groups of friends or family who have prepared themselves and will help watch each others backs.
    Trust me; my extensive military training which went into all of my planning has all the bases covered. Most people just focus on a few things and do not think it all through, they are fine for a few weeks and then their resources run out and then they are in a very bad place. You cannot eat silver or gold, but it will become very handy at some point.
    Thanks...
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    http://www.facebook.com/BankAndPolit...cialCorruption

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    Yup, thats why I said 3 months of food and water... the silver and gold is for the people that looted the supermarkets and organiized criminals that will have all the medicines and batteries when all is said and done... you cannot eat silver of gold, but the crooks sitting on the stock piles of the things you want are sure going to put you at the front of the line if you have something shiney to barter with. Depending on how long the issue lasts... if more than 3 months and you run out of food or other items you will need to obtain them somehow... and the criminals are the ones that will have either taken all of the resources or form a trading station where people come to buy and sell... and will take their cuts. Do have food and water and power sources etc first and formost... but that stuff runs out at some point. The shiney stuff will help you obtain what you need... just keep how much of it you have a secret and be prepared to defend what you have. Trust me, my training which went into all of my planning has all the bases covered. Most people just focus on a few things and do not think it all through, they are fine for a few weeks and then their resources run out and then they are in a very bad place.
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    Hey Corey,

    As usual, a very concise argument.

    In this case, I mean, if you´re planning to stay among lots of people, silver and gold are useful indeed.

    Personally, I´d rather go deep into the woods with a small group of people, and carry extra everyday items to barter when occasionally meeting someone else on the way.

    People get pretty crazy when cornered. I´d surely rather to stay away from them.

    Also, as I´ve said before, have a takedown bow, some extra strings, and at least 24 good carbon fiber arrows with broadheads. They are terrific for hunting. Guns are cool, but you can easily run out of bullets. Arrows can be re-used forever if you don´t lose them.

    Be prepared. In this case, it´s better to be called paranoid them to die.

    Cheers,

    Raf.
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    Default Re: Special Warning: DHS Knows an Economic Collapse Is Coming..!

    what an ugly future -- hoarding gold & silver & killing others to keep it

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    Default Re: Special Warning: DHS Knows an Economic Collapse Is Coming..!

    This news is just terrible.
    I better go out tonight and get my hair cut.



    Thanks Jack for the heads up, I never fully feel complete unless I am worried about the end of something.

    I must admit, I was told this was going to happen by Pat Robertson back in 1983, and I have been worrying and waiting.
    Hope this happens soon before I have to get my hair cut again

    Gods Willing
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    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Quote Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
    Yup, thats why I said 3 months of food and water... the silver and gold is for the people that looted the supermarkets and organiized criminals that will have all the medicines and batteries when all is said and done... you cannot eat silver of gold, but the crooks sitting on the stock piles of the things you want are sure going to put you at the front of the line if you have something shiney to barter with. Depending on how long the issue lasts... if more than 3 months and you run out of food or other items you will need to obtain them somehow... and the criminals are the ones that will have either taken all of the resources or form a trading station where people come to buy and sell... and will take their cuts. Do have food and water and power sources etc first and formost... but that stuff runs out at some point. The shiney stuff will help you obtain what you need... just keep how much of it you have a secret and be prepared to defend what you have. Trust me, my training which went into all of my planning has all the bases covered. Most people just focus on a few things and do not think it all through, they are fine for a few weeks and then their resources run out and then they are in a very bad place.
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    Hey Corey,

    As usual, a very concise argument.

    In this case, I mean, if you´re planning to stay among lots of people, silver and gold are useful indeed.

    Personally, I´d rather go deep into the woods with a small group of people, and carry extra everyday items to barter when occasionally meeting someone else on the way.

    People get pretty crazy when cornered. I´d surely rather to stay away from them.

    Also, as I´ve said before, have a takedown bow, some extra strings, and at least 24 good carbon fiber arrows with broadheads. They are terrific for hunting. Guns are cool, but you can easily run out of bullets. Arrows can be re-used forever if you don´t lose them.

    Be prepared. In this case, it´s better to be called paranoid them to die.

    Cheers,

    Raf.
    Very true, but at some point you may need to go in for medical aid for an infection that your home made antibiotics arent helping with, or alertic reactions occur to them, the scenarios are endless... you can only last in a small colony in the woods for so long... scavanger raiding parties go out to these places to look for items/people to pillage. Bow and Arrows are great, When I was a boy on the Reservation I was taught to use make and use them... but a good ole fire arm with a stock pile of ammo is worth more than gold/silver in many cases... having large amount of ammo for the most commonly owned firearms... a surplus of ammo in those calibers is a wonderful bartering tool... really all you need for hunting and small scale protection is a .22 rifle and a few "Bricks" of ammo. You have to sit ad daydream/daynightmare the worst case scenario and prep for them... but hope for the worst... All of this fear is not healthy and it begets more fear... saying that I have a bug out bag for each of my family members and multiple escape routs, never let my gas go below half a tank... and have a place and a plan just in case. Most of the people I served with have several points of community safety setup... and withing Radio Com range and we can back eachother up and have seed banks etc... some people are more into it than others, those that are not into all of the food and other prep stuff are the ones that will bring precious metals, ammo/guns and normal drug store stuff with them when they get waved through the gate...

    Like I said though, do not buy into the Fear Porn so much, be prepared, make connections you can use if need be... but this is a just in case scenario... not to dwell on and obsess much on. The Cabal wants us to be affraid and suspicious of even our own liberation. We will not know how to react or what is going on at first... use you brain... wisdom... not your guns... do not do anything you will regret if it all turns out to be a lot of bought and paid for MEDIA BS. If you are wrong, what the heck, you have a bunch of food you can eat anyway stocked up... I am wearing out this slogan, but its better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it... works for everything.
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    Default Re: Special Warning: DHS Knows an Economic Collapse Is Coming..!

    just found this from Activistpost


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    Investment Adviser Peter Schiff, financial Analyst Bob Chapman, commentator Jim Rodgers, historian Webster G Tarpley and trends forecaster Gerald Celente have all been warning abourmt the dollar's demise and collapse. It's been on life support since TARP and is evidenced by QE 1, QE 2, and the recent bailout of the EU.

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