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    Default Re: Rare White Buffalo Killed on Texas Ranch (May 4, 2012)

    Hey folks,

    Well, when I said WE are stupid animals, it´s because we´re the only animals who lead themselves to extinction by choice, deliberately destroying ourselves, other animals and the whole planet, while at the same time, blaming others for our actions.

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    Default Re: Rare White Buffalo Killed on Texas Ranch (May 4, 2012)

    Quote but you ARE violent -- what you do to the other animals is very cruel & violent -- you do it to each other also
    Excuse me, wynderer. But I don't harm ANY animals. If you're talking about the farms where THEY do these things, then they're the violent ones. I don't even kill bugs....

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    Default Re: Rare White Buffalo Killed on Texas Ranch (May 4, 2012)

    i think you had referred to Humans not being violent, not yourself -- that's what i was addressing anyway --- the suffering & terror of so many many Animals at the hands of Humans -- & i do include factory farms in that suffering

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    Quote but you ARE violent -- what you do to the other animals is very cruel & violent -- you do it to each other also
    Excuse me, wynderer. But I don't harm ANY animals. If you're talking about the farms where THEY do these things, then they're the violent ones. I don't even kill bugs....

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    Quote Well, when I said WE are stupid animals, it´s because we´re the only animals who lead themselves to extinction by choice, deliberately destroying ourselves, other animals and the whole planet, while at the same time, blaming others for our actions.
    You're generalizing the whole race. The few who do these things want us to believe WE do it, too. We don't.... The ones who are deliberately destroying things should take full blame.

    I, for one HAVEN'T done these things to anyone, human or animal. And I've moved up from the animal kingdom awhile ago. I'm human getting ready to evolve to a spiritual being....

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    Default Re: Rare White Buffalo Killed on Texas Ranch (May 4, 2012)

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    Quote Well, when I said WE are stupid animals, it´s because we´re the only animals who lead themselves to extinction by choice, deliberately destroying ourselves, other animals and the whole planet, while at the same time, blaming others for our actions.
    You're generalizing the whole race. The few who do these things want us to believe WE do it, too. We don't.... The ones who are deliberately destroying things should take full blame.

    I, for one HAVEN'T done these things to anyone, human or animal. And I've moved up from the animal kingdom awhile ago. I'm human getting ready to evolve to a spiritual being....
    Hey Maia,

    Just read my signature:

    "So, you complain about the bankers and still enjoy the comforts of your bank accounts, right? You repudiate wars but you´re too lazy to stop buying fuel and driving your car, right? You hate the corporations but love your iphone, drink coca-cola and can´t live without your computer and internet, right? So, you call yourself "awaken", right? Ok..."

    So yes, we´re accomplices of this mess.

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    Default Re: Rare White Buffalo Killed on Texas Ranch (May 4, 2012)

    People wonder why humanity is in the shape it is. Like it has been said it only takes one to SCREW up a good thing even if everything was working like it should in the world some boob would mess it up. Sometimes its hard being called human when this crap comes up.

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    Default Re: Rare White Buffalo Killed on Texas Ranch (May 4, 2012)

    I call myself "AWARE" of what's going on around me. But you make a point with your reasoning, but I don't agree with you completely, Raf. But I understand what you're trying to say. That a few jerks represents all of us, right?

    You know as well as I do that we're basically forced to do what we've been doing for centuries because where you gonna go to avoid it? Are we to blame for using their outdated technologies, too.... ? How many people have tried inventing things to only be bought off or taken out permanent just so that their inventions could be suppressed...? No, we're not accomplices in this because the enemy is devious, greedy and manipulative. I hate to say it, but we've been exploited.... Are we to be blamed for that, too?

    I'd give anything to have an antigravity craft and a home with free energy technologies, a food replicator so that animals don't have to be slaughtered to feed me and my family. But who knew that some of these farmers are so cruel to the animals....? Again, I ask, do these creeps represent all of us? NO!

    BTW I look forward to the day when murders of fellow divine beings like these sacred buffaloes won't even enter into the minds of Earth's humanity....

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    Default Re: Rare White Buffalo Killed on Texas Ranch (May 4, 2012)

    you could stop eating Animals -- it's not required for health

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    I call myself "AWARE" of what's going on around me. But you make a point with your reasoning, but I don't agree with you completely, Raf. But I understand what you're trying to say. That a few jerks represents all of us, right?

    You know as well as I do that we're basically forced to do what we've been doing for centuries because where you gonna go to avoid it? Are we to blame for using their outdated technologies, too.... ? How many people have tried inventing things to only be bought off or taken out permanent just so that their inventions could be suppressed...? No, we're not accomplices in this because the enemy is devious, greedy and manipulative. I hate to say it, but we've been exploited.... Are we to be blamed for that, too?

    I'd give anything to have an antigravity craft and a home with free energy technologies, a food replicator so that animals don't have to be slaughtered to feed me and my family. But who knew that some of these farmers are so cruel to the animals....? Again, I ask, do these creeps represent all of us? NO!

    BTW I look forward to the day when murders of fellow divine beings like these sacred buffaloes won't even enter into the minds of Earth's humanity....

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    Default Re: Rare White Buffalo Killed on Texas Ranch (May 4, 2012)

    Quote Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
    I call myself "AWARE" of what's going on around me. But you make a point with your reasoning, but I don't agree with you completely, Raf. But I understand what you're trying to say. That a few jerks represents all of us, right?

    You know as well as I do that we're basically forced to do what we've been doing for centuries because where you gonna go to avoid it? Are we to blame for using their outdated technologies, too.... ? How many people have tried inventing things to only be bought off or taken out permanent just so that their inventions could be suppressed...? No, we're not accomplices in this because the enemy is devious, greedy and manipulative. I hate to say it, but we've been exploited.... Are we to be blamed for that, too?

    I'd give anything to have an antigravity craft and a home with free energy technologies, a food replicator so that animals don't have to be slaughtered to feed me and my family. But who knew that some of these farmers are so cruel to the animals....? Again, I ask, do these creeps represent all of us? NO!

    BTW I look forward to the day when murders of fellow divine beings like these sacred buffaloes won't even enter into the minds of Earth's humanity....
    Hi again my friend,

    I know most of us feel that we have no choice, but in fact, we do!

    It isn´t an easy one, of course. It´s called self-sufficient lifestyle.

    So, if you (we) don´t want to be part of the problem, just go live outside the grid. It´s not easy, but I´m sure you (we) can get used to it.

    The major problem, in my opinion, is that we want to destroy the system, while, at the same time, enjoying its several comforts and conveniences. That´s not possible.

    We´re just like cats. You know, a cat, when living in a house with humans, is actually free to go anywhere. I´m looking at my cat right now. The door is open; he could go to the street and be free any time he wants.

    The question is: Does the cat actually wants to be free and abdicate of the comforts and conveniences of my cozy home?

    Cheers,

    Raf.

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    Default Re: Rare White Buffalo Killed on Texas Ranch (May 4, 2012)

    A New White Bison Bull Calf Has Been Born!


    A white bison at the farm of Peter Fay in Goshen, Conn. The birth of the bull calf a month ago drew attention from some as an auspicious event.

    A Bison So Rare It’s Sacred (The New York Times)

    A Bison So Rare It’s Sacred
    By Peter Applebome | July 12, 2012

    If one were asked to pick a typical home where the buffalo roam, the answer probably would not be Litchfield County amid the rolling hills and understated rural chic of Northwest Connecticut.

    But when Bison No. 7 on Peter Fay’s farm gave birth to a white, 30-pound bull calf a month ago, it made the Fay farm below Mohawk Mountain, for the moment at least, the unlikely epicenter of the bison universe.

    For Mr. Fay, what happened was an astoundingly unexpected oddity — white bison are so rare that each birth is viewed as akin to a historic event.

    For Marian White Mouse of Wanblee, S.D., and other American Indians, it is a supremely auspicious message from the spirits. She will fly with her family to Connecticut for naming ceremonies at the end of the month that are expected to draw large crowds.

    And for those to whom the bison is an iconic part of the American experience, the birth is, at the least, a remarkable coincidence, coming at a time that wildlife, tribal and producer groups are lobbying Congress to have the bison officially designated as the national mammal and a national symbol alongside the bald eagle. (The words buffalo and bison are often used interchangeably, but the North American version is properly called bison and its distant cousins in Asia and Africa are buffaloes).

    Mr. Fay, who has an elaborate bison tattoo on his right shoulder and another above his heart, comes from four generations of dairy farmers and makes his living through an excavating and rock-crushing business. He began raising bison as a hobby four years ago, capitalizing on a growing appetite for bison as a leaner alternative to beef, and then became increasingly excited about the animals, building his herd to more than 40 until he sold off about half of them two months ago.

    “They’re awesome animals, wild, not domesticated,” Mr. Fay said. “You think of them in South Dakota, where it’s a desert and hot in the summer and bitterly cold in the winter. They don’t mind either one. And they don’t get sick. They’re not like a cow. They’re very hardy. They can deal with anything.”

    Mr. Fay, 53, said he was watching a female preparing to give birth on June 16 when he realized a second one was about to give birth as well.

    “I was watching and watching and when the second one hit the ground, it was white,” Mr. Fay said. “I don’t know if you’ve ever seen an animal born, but they’re wet. So you don’t see much until the mom dries it off, but once it stood up to nurse, and it was right next to the other one, it looked like a ghost.”

    Mr. Fay said his Indian friends had told him that a white bison was considered the most sacred thing imaginable — its birth viewed as something like the Second Coming.

    Mr. Fay said he carefully researched the bloodlines of the calf’s mother and father, and he is confident the animal is all bison without any intermingling with cattle. But to be certain, he has sent its DNA for testing. Keith Aune, senior conservation scientist with the Wildlife Conservation Society, said some white bison are albinos and have difficulty thriving in the wild because they lack the black skin that absorbs sunlight during harsh winters.

    Mrs. White Mouse, a member of the Oglala Lakota people, said a white bison was believed to be a manifestation of the White Buffalo Calf Maiden, or Ptesan Wi. She is revered as a prophet, who in a time of famine taught the Lakotas seven sacred rituals and gave them their most important symbol of worship, the sacred pipe.

    They are very rare, and when a white bison is born there is a reason for each one to be here,” Mrs. White Mouse said. “It’s such a blessing for someone to take care of a bison like Peter Fay will. I told him when it was born, ‘You don’t even know what you have on your hands here.’ ”

    Mr. Fay said he was getting the idea, and being very careful. A white bison in Texas was slaughtered a year ago in what some believed could be an anti-Indian hate crime. Mr. Fay said either he or someone else watched the field day and night. He said that he was prepared for what could be four days of festivities, with the naming ceremony scheduled for July 28, and that he had no interest in selling the bison.

    Experts have said one in 10 million bison are white, but a few other white bison births in recent years suggest the rate is somewhat higher.

    There were once perhaps 40 million bison roaming wild in the United States. They were hunted to near extinction and have had something of a resurgence both because of conservation efforts in the West and commercial demand; there are now about 500,000 in the country.

    Less than a month before this bison was born, the National Bison Legacy Act was introduced in the Senate. The act would designate the American bison as the “National Mammal of the United States.” (There has never been a national mammal.) It has 15 co-sponsors, including the two senators from Connecticut, and an upbeat Web site, votebison.org, though its prospects for passage are unclear.

    Mr. Fay said he believed the Indian teachings about the animals, though he found it hard to tie the birth to any one event.

    Still, he said: “I think it’s not coincidence that all this stuff is happening. The more you get involved with Native Americans, the more you see it’s a good thing that it’s happening. The country is now in pretty sad shape, so you never know what can help. But for now, I’m just trying to learn about it.”
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    Native Americans to Celebrate White Bison in Connecticut (abc News)

    Native Americans to Celebrate White Bison in Connecticut
    By Michael Melia (Associated Press)| July 19, 2012

    The birth of a white bison, among the rarest of animals, is bringing Native Americans who consider it a sacred event to celebrate at one of the least likely of places, a farm in New England.

    Hundreds of people, including tribal elders from South Dakota, are expected to attend naming ceremonies later this month at the northwestern Connecticut farm of Peter Fay, a fourth-generation Goshen farmer.

    Native Americans in the area have come with gifts of tobacco and colored flags for Fay and the bull calf since it was born there a month ago, and Fay is planning to offer his hay field as a campsite for the expected crowds.

    "They say it's going to bring good things to all people in the world. How can you beat that? That's the way I look at it," Fay said.

    Connecticut farms host only about 100 bison, a tiny fraction of the populations in Western states, such as South Dakota, the home of Sioux tribes that attach the greatest spiritual meaning to white bison. As some push for greater recognition of the bison's significance to both the United States and Native Americans, advocates say the event on the far-flung East Coast is well-placed to boost exposure for the cause.

    Fay, whose family traditionally stuck to dairy farming, took on bison four years ago as a hobby, enamored by the animals' toughness. He built his herd to 40 before recently selling half of them.

    Word spread rapidly after the arrival of the white bison, which experts say is as rare as one in 10 million, and Fay invited Native Americans for the ceremonies at his farm below Mohawk Mountain. In turn, he and his two daughters were asked to participate in the celebrations, which will include a feast and talks by the elders.

    "They're here almost every day, teaching me," said the 53-year-old Fay, who has bison tattoos on his shoulder and chest.

    Marian White Mouse, a member of the Oglala Lakota tribe in South Dakota, said the birth of a white bison is a sign from a prophet, the White Buffalo Calf Woman, who helped them endure times of strife and famine. White Mouse's family of four is flying to Connecticut for the ceremonies.

    "For me, it's like a surreal event. I never thought in my wildest dreams I would ever come in contact with one of them in my lifetime," said White Mouse, 51, of Wanblee, S.D.

    Jim Stone, the executive director of the InterTribal Buffalo Council in Rapid City, S.D., said the oral traditions of many tribes honor white bison, which have become a universal symbol for hope and unity. He said each such birth is also an opportunity for tribes to share their history, and the celebration in Connecticut is likely to touch many non-tribal people.

    The calf, born on June 16, is off-white — not an albino — and Fay said he is certain the bloodlines are pure, although he has sent its DNA for testing to confirm there was no intermingling with cattle. Fay, who also works at an excavating and rock-crushing business, focuses on breeding and selling the bison calves, but he has not determined what will happen with the white one.

    To address concerns for the calf's safety, he also has at least one person stay at the farm around the clock. Last year, a white bison calf born in Texas was found dead and skinned — a slaughter that some suspect as an anti-Indian hate crime. Fay did not want the date of the ceremonies this month publicized.

    Tens of millions of bison once roamed America's plains, but the over-hunted population shrank to about 1,000 toward the end of the 1800s. Their numbers have rebounded to several hundred thousand, and wildlife and tribal groups are now pushing Congress to have the bison recognized as America's "national mammal." The National Bison Legacy Act was introduced in the Senate in May.

    "Any kind of awareness we can raise around bison is a good thing," said Jim Matheson, assistant director of the National Bison Association in Denver.

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    Default Re: Rare White Buffalo Killed on Texas Ranch (May 4, 2012)

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    Quote Well, when I said WE are stupid animals, it´s because we´re the only animals who lead themselves to extinction by choice, deliberately destroying ourselves, other animals and the whole planet, while at the same time, blaming others for our actions.
    You're generalizing the whole race. The few who do these things want us to believe WE do it, too. We don't.... The ones who are deliberately destroying things should take full blame.

    I, for one HAVEN'T done these things to anyone, human or animal. And I've moved up from the animal kingdom awhile ago. I'm human getting ready to evolve to a spiritual being....
    I stand poudly beside you Maia Gabrial. I abhore injustice, dishonesty, and cruelty. And I will take a spider outside before killing it, yes.
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    Default Re: Rare White Buffalo Killed on Texas Ranch (May 4, 2012)

    Authorities are now claiming that Lightning Medicine Cloud died from an infection and was not ruthlessly killed and skinned. Hmmm, so who should we believe, a bunch of corrupt "authorities", or his owners and caretakers, who possess years of experience dealing with bison (buffalo)?!

    Rare White Buffalo in Texas Died from Infection (CBS News)

    Rare White Buffalo in Texas Died from Infection
    Associated Press | August 21, 2012

    Authorities say a rare white buffalo found dead in Texas died from a bacterial infection and wasn't killed and mutilated as claimed by its owner.

    Hunt County Sheriff Randy Meeks said Tuesday that a veterinarian made the determination and that photographs indicate the calf wasn't skinned. The investigation is closed unless new evidence surfaces.

    The calf, named Lightning Medicine Cloud, died in May on the Lakota Ranch near Greenville, about 50 miles northeast of Dallas.

    Ranch owner Arby Little Soldier reported finding the calf skinned and believed it had been killed. He didn't return a message seeking comment Tuesday.

    As a non-albino white buffalo, the calf was revered by Native Americans. According to Lakota Sioux lore, the goddess of peace once appeared in the form of a white buffalo calf.
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    Well, the owners of the Lakota Ranch stand behind their claims.

    Owner of Deceased White Buffalo Speaks Out (KTEN)

    Owner of Deceased White Buffalo Speaks Out
    By Ashley Prchal | Aug 22, 2012

    Owners of the Lakota Ranch in Greenville, Texas are standing behind their claims that a rare white buffalo was mutilated on their property.

    Wednesday Arby Little Solider held a press conference after the Sheriff of Hunt County released new findings about the death of the animal on Tuesday.

    According to a veterinarian report, the animal called Lighting Medicine Cloud died in April from a disease called Blackleg. Arby Little Solider says with the condition of the calf's body he finds that hard to believe.

    "I think it's an easy way to close the case and get out of it. Sweep this underneath the carpet and kind of let this go," says Little Solider.

    He says he is requesting a copy of the report from the vet's office and in the meantime he will be testing his property and the animals on it for Blackleg.
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