*Divine Intervention*: ETs Defeating the Old World Order

[justoneman]

Posted by AnthonyBacala (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by AnthonyBacala (here)
Guys, before we get hung up on these benevolent ETs (and yes I believe they exist) who have yet to show any tangible proof of their actions (aside from powering down nuclear facilities and the like...which Wilcock's moderator admitted negative ETs are also doing) and rely merely upon channeled information, take some time to familiarize yourselves with the various negative ETs/EDs who HAVE made their presence known, in a rather unwelcomed fashion, and immerse yourselves in some truth.

If you are anything like me, this thread created by Houman, and constantly being added to, will shake your current belief structure and you may find yourselves questioning everything you've believed with this new age movement.

http://http://projectavalon.net/foru...ew-with-Maarit

Also, as you will see within this thread Jean-Luc was kind enough to create a free PDF eBook with the majority of the content in an easy to read format.

Not being critical guys, we just need to focus on truth, now more than ever. And even though a lot of the stuff in this thread is hard to stomach, pretending it doesn't exist, or refusing to believe it exists is by far the worse thing you can do. Do your "homework" and you may find yourself, and your beliefs, shifting away from hopes of Ascension (as the idea of leaving this planet) and realize you don't want to go anywhere until we collectively clean up this mess...even if we weren't the perpetrators.

I would proceed down the path you are heading with extreme caution. To educate one's self about the dark forces is one thing. Spend too much time there and it will eat you from the inside out. Besides, once you have identified the dark forces, then what?

I think it's better to leave the intergalactic battles to those who are battle hardened and to do what you can to improve your local community in any way you see fit. Now, more than ever it is important to focus precious energy on the light.

P.S. Wanderers are not impervious to being claimed by the dark side. I speak from experience, as I've lost one of my star brothers to dark forces not so long ago. As you are most likely aware, it is one of the real dangers we face when volunteering for the mission. I wish you well on your journey.

No disrespect, but that is EXACTLY what the negative forces want. Disillusioned people wanting to shift their focus away from any evil deeds, leaving the "intergalactic battles to those who are battle hardened" while they await someone else to save them.

No one is coming to save you, the Calvary is already here. And, if you consider yourself a wanderer, wouldn't that make you too, one of those intergalactic, battle hardened entities who has come back into a lower dimension to assist?

Not being rude, but this is exactly the kind of thought process that is keeping members of the New Age community in further bondage.

However, I agree with waking up others on a local level, which I focus on daily. At the same time, though, ignorance or refusal to believe of these negative forces will not cease their presence here.

And, in response to what do you do after you have explored the negative side of the coin...well I'm still working on that, myself, but I believe that knowledge is power, and by spreading knowledge (not just positive, wishful thinking) especially at the local level, we can achieve the 100th monkey effect and collectively find a way to regain our sovereignty.

Solutions regarding the evil forces is what we should focus on. They exist, they are very real, yes you can go deeeeeep into the rabbit hole and maybe get swallowed up. Let's discuss solutions. Those who are under the influences of the dark forces are real. Some unwittingly and some quite consciously. Within that group of humans is where the solution must come. How can we help them - that is what we need to discuss.

[StarDust]

Posted by justoneman (here)
Solutions regarding the evil forces is what we should focus on. They exist, they are very real, yes you can go deeeeeep into the rabbit hole and maybe get swallowed up. Let's discuss solutions. Those who are under the influences of the dark forces are real. Some unwittingly and some quite consciously. Within that group of humans is where the solution must come. How can we help them - that is what we need to discuss.

I fully concur. Identifying the pieces on a chess board may permit you to make the first move but it certainly won't provide a long term strategy to win.

[the_vast_mystery]

Posted by AnthonyBacala (here)
No disrespect, but that is EXACTLY what the negative forces want. Disillusioned people wanting to shift their focus away from any evil deeds, leaving the "intergalactic battles to those who are battle hardened" while they await someone else to save them.

No one is coming to save you, the Calvary is already here. And, if you consider yourself a wanderer, wouldn't that make you too, one of those intergalactic, battle hardened entities who has come back into a lower dimension to assist?

Not being rude, but this is exactly the kind of thought process that is keeping members of the New Age community in further bondage.

However, I agree with waking up others on a local level, which I focus on daily. At the same time, though, ignorance or refusal to believe of these negative forces will not cease their presence here.

And, in response to what do you do after you have explored the negative side of the coin...well I'm still working on that, myself, but I believe that knowledge is power, and by spreading knowledge (not just positive, wishful thinking) especially at the local level, we can achieve the 100th monkey effect and collectively find a way to regain our sovereignty.

Let's do a little hypothetical simulation and think about this for a moment. What are we looking to achieve here? Freedom and Sovereignty? Yes, that sounds about right. Now, what impediments do we have in our way? A shadow government, and a large number of men with guns who are more than capable of killing and or torturing anyone who has heretofore provided a significant threat to them (people with actual evidence.) Now how are we going to stop them? There really are only two answers, you either remove their physical capability to attack you (Highly unlikely, would require high level manifestation and matter alteration abilities that so far no one person on this planet has shown to possess) or you would need to change their minds (much more likely and can be done via targeted meditation.) It seems to me that the smartest idea then would be to take stock of the situation, all of the key players, and then use all of that positive energy to focus on creating a peaceful scenario where people change their minds and the shadow government loses it's power. If we all did it at once there is a chance we might be able to achieve this one alone. I think this is exactly why Cobra's holding these Global Liberation exercises. It's about putting the energy out to change the minds of enough people that we might be able to do something.

I'm still pessimistic about the numbers, but I could be wrong. Realistically what we need to do though is remove the shadow government, taking stock of the situation also means admitting that these Archons and other negatives do exist and they likely have their key players under hardened protection from such simple attacks. So really our only option wouldn't even be so much to focus on them directly but rather to meditate for an intervention from our own civilization that automatically removes them. This "The Plan" may have been a false op to start with and yet it outlines a potential for how things could happen if one assumes that it is possible to create a consciousness tsunami through focused meditation that can positively influence a large number of people to just wake up one day, and begin the arrests.

Does that mean this alone is the only way? Of course not, but if we don't first admit that we cannot be free until we get rid of the systems of slavery that means we need to figure out a way to remove the shadow government or at best each of us will be living on borrowed time that we might have slightly extended. As unfortunately even the best among us still are alive in bodies, and this means we all have very convenient ways of being pressured through physical torture as well as torture of loved ones and that means the moment any one of us becomes a serious nuisance, if we do not remove the shadow government, we too are vulnerable. Only someone who entirely abandons loving others and compassion is able to be "free" in this current paradigm because only they will be free of loving attachments that can be exploited. Let's be serious, do you think you alone can remove the shadow government? Do you alone think you could kill a SWAT team breaking down your door one day to cart you off on a train to some death camp somewhere? We love to talk big about these things but even someone well armed isn't much of a match for the latest gadgets our high-tech militarized police are getting and they will probably not have the numbers or organization needed to fend them off for long.

Do any of you even remember Waco? Do you really think you'll be safe if you can get a secure compound and load up on guns? Don't make me laugh, WACO was a warning to everyone that no matter how well armed you think you are the government is always much better armed and capable of taking you and your friends out if you become trouble. Note, that isn't me touching upon the actual motivations of the government for how they handled the Waco situation but if you know how armed Koresh was then you can see that the incident shows that no, if you get in a firefight no matter how many guns or how much body armor you have eventually the government will kill you.

We need the military, we need the police, we need the people with guns to be on our side and not busting down our door and hauling us off to death camps. The only way that's going to happen is if we can find a way to make that happen. We're not action heroes, we may have varying levels of intuitive senses and "knowing" but none so far has evidenced any grand powers beyond those of insight and knowledge. So we are not going to go fly in superman style and arrest the cabal. We are limited to the tools of the mind and that means we must use them! I go through good and bad periods still, and my opinion on the subject may very well change if I get hit with another wave of negativity again. (Although I am trying to work on that, self-improvement is an ever slow and laberous process for myself -_-;;) But for right now I think that is literally the only thing we can do, the only thing. We can try to talk about this with others but let's not try to get caught up on proselytizing, you know how much that must annoy people just like if someone from a major religion were to try and "convert" you and wouldn't leave you alone. We're here, we've got rules we need to work within, rules like the laws of physics and the limitations of the human body, rules that govern whether people will believe what we have to say even if it may in fact be true, etc. So given that, what else can we do? Seriously?

[9eagle9]

If we are infants and childrens then certainly that is how we have been treated all this time; and if that is how humans view themselves that is how they will continue to be treated.

That's suits most people just fine; some humans are attempting a higher standard of not remaining spiritually immature.

Certainly I don't see stewardship of the earth being granted to a race of children, so supervised they will remain.

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
From Wynderer

...but you still did not answer my question : why do Humans need ETs to tell them what is right in front of their noses?

...why do Humans need other Humans to tell them what is right in front of their noses?...

The answer should be similar to:

Why do infants & children need adults to teach them? - Just a thought

[wynderer]

'supervised' is putting it mildly

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
If we are infants and childrens then certainly that is how we have been treated all this time; and if that is how humans view themselves that is how they will continue to be treated.

That's suits most people just fine; some humans are attempting a higher standard of not remaining spiritually immature.

Certainly I don't see stewardship of the earth being granted to a race of children, so supervised they will remain.

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
From Wynderer

...but you still did not answer my question : why do Humans need ETs to tell them what is right in front of their noses?

...why do Humans need other Humans to tell them what is right in front of their noses?...

The answer should be similar to:

Why do infants & children need adults to teach them? - Just a thought

[joedjemal]

Posted by Mozart (here)

Posted by frozen alchemy (here)

... they may simply be vibrating at a level that we simply cannot see with human eyes; I have to presume that all 5D and above is not visible to us, no matter how nifty the camera.

frozen alchemy ~


You are right -- 5D (both the 5th density and the 5th dimension) are invisible to us 3-D beings; 4-D (both kinds) is also invisible, as are the rest of the higher dimensions up to the 8th level of this octave of maya.


~~ I was showing my ex-GF this cute, little "rapture" dude and she totally LOVED it. <grin>


~Mozart

I disagree with this, I've been able to see the shadow world behind this one for as long as I can remember (not that it always makes much sense). That vision has been improving as I make progress. You can see the cracks in reality if you look carefully enough. This so called 3d reality is only one layer of a much more complicated world. I'm convinced anyone can learn to see it if they try.

[wynderer]

it has been suggested that those of us who can see UFOs are able to see more of the color spectrum -- ultraviolet at one end, & infrared at the other

there are many at Avalon who have 'the sight', & it seems that all of us are growing a bit more in psychic perception -- all Humans are, i think

& i agree about the 'cracks' in the Matrix -- i used that same word --cracks -- in a post some time ago

Posted by joedjemal (here)

Posted by Mozart (here)

Posted by frozen alchemy (here)

... they may simply be vibrating at a level that we simply cannot see with human eyes; I have to presume that all 5D and above is not visible to us, no matter how nifty the camera.

frozen alchemy ~


You are right -- 5D (both the 5th density and the 5th dimension) are invisible to us 3-D beings; 4-D (both kinds) is also invisible, as are the rest of the higher dimensions up to the 8th level of this octave of maya.


~~ I was showing my ex-GF this cute, little "rapture" dude and she totally LOVED it. <grin>


~Mozart

I disagree with this, I've been able to see the shadow world behind this one for as long as I can remember (not that it always makes much sense). That vision has been improving as I make progress. You can see the cracks in reality if you look carefully enough. This so called 3d reality is only one layer of a much more complicated world. I'm convinced anyone can learn to see it if they try.

[modwiz]

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by AnthonyBacala (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by AnthonyBacala (here)
Guys, before we get hung up on these benevolent ETs (and yes I believe they exist) who have yet to show any tangible proof of their actions (aside from powering down nuclear facilities and the like...which Wilcock's moderator admitted negative ETs are also doing) and rely merely upon channeled information, take some time to familiarize yourselves with the various negative ETs/EDs who HAVE made their presence known, in a rather unwelcomed fashion, and immerse yourselves in some truth.

If you are anything like me, this thread created by Houman, and constantly being added to, will shake your current belief structure and you may find yourselves questioning everything you've believed with this new age movement.

http://http://projectavalon.net/foru...ew-with-Maarit

Also, as you will see within this thread Jean-Luc was kind enough to create a free PDF eBook with the majority of the content in an easy to read format.

Not being critical guys, we just need to focus on truth, now more than ever. And even though a lot of the stuff in this thread is hard to stomach, pretending it doesn't exist, or refusing to believe it exists is by far the worse thing you can do. Do your "homework" and you may find yourself, and your beliefs, shifting away from hopes of Ascension (as the idea of leaving this planet) and realize you don't want to go anywhere until we collectively clean up this mess...even if we weren't the perpetrators.

I would proceed down the path you are heading with extreme caution. To educate one's self about the dark forces is one thing. Spend too much time there and it will eat you from the inside out. Besides, once you have identified the dark forces, then what?

I think it's better to leave the intergalactic battles to those who are battle hardened and to do what you can to improve your local community in any way you see fit. Now, more than ever it is important to focus precious energy on the light.

P.S. Wanderers are not impervious to being claimed by the dark side. I speak from experience, as I've lost one of my star brothers to dark forces not so long ago. As you are most likely aware, it is one of the real dangers we face when volunteering for the mission. I wish you well on your journey.

No disrespect, but that is EXACTLY what the negative forces want. Disillusioned people wanting to shift their focus away from any evil deeds, leaving the "intergalactic battles to those who are battle hardened" while they await someone else to save them.

No one is coming to save you, the Calvary is already here. And, if you consider yourself a wanderer, wouldn't that make you too, one of those intergalactic, battle hardened entities who has come back into a lower dimension to assist?

Not being rude, but this is exactly the kind of thought process that is keeping members of the New Age community in further bondage.

However, I agree with waking up others on a local level, which I focus on daily. At the same time, though, ignorance or refusal to believe of these negative forces will not cease their presence here.

And, in response to what do you do after you have explored the negative side of the coin...well I'm still working on that, myself, but I believe that knowledge is power, and by spreading knowledge (not just positive, wishful thinking) especially at the local level, we can achieve the 100th monkey effect and collectively find a way to regain our sovereignty.

Solutions regarding the evil forces is what we should focus on. They exist, they are very real, yes you can go deeeeeep into the rabbit hole and maybe get swallowed up. Let's discuss solutions. Those who are under the influences of the dark forces are real. Some unwittingly and some quite consciously. Within that group of humans is where the solution must come. How can we help them - that is what we need to discuss.

Some need help and some of us are good at helping others. At the same time some are better at kicking ass. There are plenty of us so there is plenty of diverse talent to go around. Realizing we have work to do and getting to it is a really good idea. Walking the walk would be wonderful if some productive and focused talk/ideas could make it through the noise of democracy.

As for the rabbit holes, we should use them as latrines.

[9eagle9]

Learning to see without one's eyes, yes. the basis of enhancing one's perceptions. There more than one way to observe something. One shifts their perceptions and one's physical eyes shift along with it.

Posted by joedjemal (here)

Posted by Mozart (here)

Posted by frozen alchemy (here)

... they may simply be vibrating at a level that we simply cannot see with human eyes; I have to presume that all 5D and above is not visible to us, no matter how nifty the camera.

frozen alchemy ~


You are right -- 5D (both the 5th density and the 5th dimension) are invisible to us 3-D beings; 4-D (both kinds) is also invisible, as are the rest of the higher dimensions up to the 8th level of this octave of maya.


~~ I was showing my ex-GF this cute, little "rapture" dude and she totally LOVED it. <grin>


~Mozart

I disagree with this, I've been able to see the shadow world behind this one for as long as I can remember (not that it always makes much sense). That vision has been improving as I make progress. You can see the cracks in reality if you look carefully enough. This so called 3d reality is only one layer of a much more complicated world. I'm convinced anyone can learn to see it if they try.

[Snowbird]

Sirius White, I read your post right after it first appeared on this forum and was rather surprised. I was tired that day, so I decided not to respond. I then came back and re-read it and was even more surprised, so I decided to respond.

Granted, I don't necessarily follow the work of DW any more or less than anyone else's work. However, I do try to maintain an open mind and heart where these issues are concerned because some of what is posted is spot-on and we learn over time that the rest should be ignored. I also believe that it is important for us to "voice" our opinions when we deem necessary.

More distractions.

We don't need the ET's guys. I mean we do in a spiritual sense.

This is a rouse...

Like GFL...

It's part of the whole agenda of the Cabal to give people false sense of security: Look! WE are losing! We are releasing free energy! Aliens are coming to save you!! New financial system coming tomorrow!

We don't need the ET's guys. I find this an astonishing statement. If you mean by this statement that we each have the responsibility to attain and maintain a higher level of vibrational frequency and remove our proverbial heads from the sand, then I fully agree. If, however, you are indicating that the 3D humans on this Terra-3 Earth have the abilities and the knowhow to simultaneously raise and maintain their vibrational frequency, wake up from hundreds of thousands of years of forced and induced sleep-state, fight an enormously powerful and intelligent and deadly off-Earth group of miscreants who would eat us for lunch and whose technological abilities are astounding and who are the main authors of the ruination of this planet Earth and many many other universal planets and life forms, then I would have to say that I profoundly disagree. I think that your statement is waaaay off base.

There is a war....but its mostly a war between ancient clans, that emanate from the same families. Both ET and human.

Yes, there is a war. In fact, there are several wars being literally waged all around us in the etheric and yes, there are ancient clan-families fighting amongst themselves. There are also wars being fought by extremely dedicated off-Earth ETs who happen to be our distant relatives, who care enough about the Earth and her people and biology to risk their very beings to help to free this planet and this galaxy and this universe from powerful miscreants.

If there is one thing I've learned is:

Everything is EARNED. There is no easy ascension and freedom while 90% of people are still zombified watching jersey shore and in denial. What would they do with that freedom? Do you really think they've even chosen it yet? We have to fight for it. We have to strive to evolve in order to over-come the crisis. THAT'S what causes ascension! THAT is what causes spiritual evolution!

Do you really think ET's got to where they are at today, by having it all handed to them on a silver platter?

The operative question here is HOW do the people of Earth accomplish your interpretation of freedom when they are in forced lockdown by powerful off-Earth forces? HOW is that accomplished?

The Universal Source is offering the Earth the freedom to ascend. There are over ten million off-Earth starseeds presently on this planet who are helping to make sure that this Earth and her people and her biology ascend along with this galaxy And this Universe. You may be one of these. We are moving forward and will not be stopped by miscreants.

Coming along for the ride?

[9eagle9]

. No accident the song has been recently resurrected. We've lost our honor, our nobility, our courage and the ability to ride a horse. We have to 'love' the bad guys instead of kicking their asses. One suggest you watch the movie in it's entirety,(vid only shows ass kicking parts) but didn't come from a ptb movie studio. Very simple message about reclaiming the better parts of ourselves.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5POi-T4Dlw

for those among us who don't remember what Billy Jack showed us.

(ladies you are excused to go change your underwear)

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by AnthonyBacala (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by AnthonyBacala (here)
Guys, before we get hung up on these benevolent ETs (and yes I believe they exist) who have yet to show any tangible proof of their actions (aside from powering down nuclear facilities and the like...which Wilcock's moderator admitted negative ETs are also doing) and rely merely upon channeled information, take some time to familiarize yourselves with the various negative ETs/EDs who HAVE made their presence known, in a rather unwelcomed fashion, and immerse yourselves in some truth.

If you are anything like me, this thread created by Houman, and constantly being added to, will shake your current belief structure and you may find yourselves questioning everything you've believed with this new age movement.

http://http://projectavalon.net/foru...ew-with-Maarit

Also, as you will see within this thread Jean-Luc was kind enough to create a free PDF eBook with the majority of the content in an easy to read format.

Not being critical guys, we just need to focus on truth, now more than ever. And even though a lot of the stuff in this thread is hard to stomach, pretending it doesn't exist, or refusing to believe it exists is by far the worse thing you can do. Do your "homework" and you may find yourself, and your beliefs, shifting away from hopes of Ascension (as the idea of leaving this planet) and realize you don't want to go anywhere until we collectively clean up this mess...even if we weren't the perpetrators.

I would proceed down the path you are heading with extreme caution. To educate one's self about the dark forces is one thing. Spend too much time there and it will eat you from the inside out. Besides, once you have identified the dark forces, then what?

I think it's better to leave the intergalactic battles to those who are battle hardened and to do what you can to improve your local community in any way you see fit. Now, more than ever it is important to focus precious energy on the light.

P.S. Wanderers are not impervious to being claimed by the dark side. I speak from experience, as I've lost one of my star brothers to dark forces not so long ago. As you are most likely aware, it is one of the real dangers we face when volunteering for the mission. I wish you well on your journey.

No disrespect, but that is EXACTLY what the negative forces want. Disillusioned people wanting to shift their focus away from any evil deeds, leaving the "intergalactic battles to those who are battle hardened" while they await someone else to save them.

No one is coming to save you, the Calvary is already here. And, if you consider yourself a wanderer, wouldn't that make you too, one of those intergalactic, battle hardened entities who has come back into a lower dimension to assist?

Not being rude, but this is exactly the kind of thought process that is keeping members of the New Age community in further bondage.

However, I agree with waking up others on a local level, which I focus on daily. At the same time, though, ignorance or refusal to believe of these negative forces will not cease their presence here.

And, in response to what do you do after you have explored the negative side of the coin...well I'm still working on that, myself, but I believe that knowledge is power, and by spreading knowledge (not just positive, wishful thinking) especially at the local level, we can achieve the 100th monkey effect and collectively find a way to regain our sovereignty.

Solutions regarding the evil forces is what we should focus on. They exist, they are very real, yes you can go deeeeeep into the rabbit hole and maybe get swallowed up. Let's discuss solutions. Those who are under the influences of the dark forces are real. Some unwittingly and some quite consciously. Within that group of humans is where the solution must come. How can we help them - that is what we need to discuss.

Some need help and some of us are good a helping others. At the same time some are better at kicking ass. There are plenty of us so there is plenty of diverse talent to go around. Realizing we have work to do and getting to it is a really good idea. Walking the walk would be wonderful if some productive a focused talk/ideas could make it through the noise of democracy.

As for the rabbit holes, we should use them as latrines.

[wynderer]

Billy Jack rules!

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
. No accident the song has been recently resurrected. We've lost our honor, our nobility, our courage and the ability to ride a horse. We have to 'love' the bad guys instead of kicking their asses. One suggest you watch the movie in it's entirety,(vid only shows ass kicking parts) but didn't come from a ptb movie studio. Very simple message about reclaiming the better parts of ourselves.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5POi-T4Dlw

for those among us who don't remember what Billy Jack showed us.

(ladies you are excused to go change your underwear)

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by AnthonyBacala (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by AnthonyBacala (here)
Guys, before we get hung up on these benevolent ETs (and yes I believe they exist) who have yet to show any tangible proof of their actions (aside from powering down nuclear facilities and the like...which Wilcock's moderator admitted negative ETs are also doing) and rely merely upon channeled information, take some time to familiarize yourselves with the various negative ETs/EDs who HAVE made their presence known, in a rather unwelcomed fashion, and immerse yourselves in some truth.

If you are anything like me, this thread created by Houman, and constantly being added to, will shake your current belief structure and you may find yourselves questioning everything you've believed with this new age movement.

http://http://projectavalon.net/foru...ew-with-Maarit

Also, as you will see within this thread Jean-Luc was kind enough to create a free PDF eBook with the majority of the content in an easy to read format.

Not being critical guys, we just need to focus on truth, now more than ever. And even though a lot of the stuff in this thread is hard to stomach, pretending it doesn't exist, or refusing to believe it exists is by far the worse thing you can do. Do your "homework" and you may find yourself, and your beliefs, shifting away from hopes of Ascension (as the idea of leaving this planet) and realize you don't want to go anywhere until we collectively clean up this mess...even if we weren't the perpetrators.

I would proceed down the path you are heading with extreme caution. To educate one's self about the dark forces is one thing. Spend too much time there and it will eat you from the inside out. Besides, once you have identified the dark forces, then what?

I think it's better to leave the intergalactic battles to those who are battle hardened and to do what you can to improve your local community in any way you see fit. Now, more than ever it is important to focus precious energy on the light.

P.S. Wanderers are not impervious to being claimed by the dark side. I speak from experience, as I've lost one of my star brothers to dark forces not so long ago. As you are most likely aware, it is one of the real dangers we face when volunteering for the mission. I wish you well on your journey.

No disrespect, but that is EXACTLY what the negative forces want. Disillusioned people wanting to shift their focus away from any evil deeds, leaving the "intergalactic battles to those who are battle hardened" while they await someone else to save them.

No one is coming to save you, the Calvary is already here. And, if you consider yourself a wanderer, wouldn't that make you too, one of those intergalactic, battle hardened entities who has come back into a lower dimension to assist?

Not being rude, but this is exactly the kind of thought process that is keeping members of the New Age community in further bondage.

However, I agree with waking up others on a local level, which I focus on daily. At the same time, though, ignorance or refusal to believe of these negative forces will not cease their presence here.

And, in response to what do you do after you have explored the negative side of the coin...well I'm still working on that, myself, but I believe that knowledge is power, and by spreading knowledge (not just positive, wishful thinking) especially at the local level, we can achieve the 100th monkey effect and collectively find a way to regain our sovereignty.

Solutions regarding the evil forces is what we should focus on. They exist, they are very real, yes you can go deeeeeep into the rabbit hole and maybe get swallowed up. Let's discuss solutions. Those who are under the influences of the dark forces are real. Some unwittingly and some quite consciously. Within that group of humans is where the solution must come. How can we help them - that is what we need to discuss.

Some need help and some of us are good a helping others. At the same time some are better at kicking ass. There are plenty of us so there is plenty of diverse talent to go around. Realizing we have work to do and getting to it is a really good idea. Walking the walk would be wonderful if some productive a focused talk/ideas could make it through the noise of democracy.

As for the rabbit holes, we should use them as latrines.

[9eagle9]

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRnra0KRnDk

[OnyxKnight]

I need to use a really huge facepalm emote ...

grrr, why doesn't Avalon have one?

[StarDust]

Posted by Snowbird (here)
The Universal Source is offering the Earth the freedom to ascend. There are over ten million off-Earth starseeds presently on this planet who are helping to make sure that this Earth and her people and her biology ascend along with this galaxy And this Universe. You may be one of these. We are moving forward and will not be stopped by miscreants.

Well stated rebuttal. With regard to our numbers, some estimates place our type at closer to 80-100,000,000. I believe that Source recognized the difficulties of awakening and stacked the deck with that in mind.

According the sources like "The RA Material", only 10% may have awoken to their true nature (not that being fully awake is requisite for anchoring light). Personally, I think that number is now higher as we approach galactic alignment. Either way, your assessment that "we are moving forward and will not be stopped by miscreants", is spot on!

BTW, I love your quotes in the signature area…very apropos.

[9eagle9]

Billy Jack kicked its passivistic, hide-its-face, little ass.

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)
I need to use a really huge facepalm emote ...

grrr, why doesn't Avalon have one?

[justoneman]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRnra0KRnDk

strangely though... in a way... isn't Drake and his insiders a bunch of Billy Jacks if they actually go operational?

[9eagle9]

And if I take my clothes off I'm the June 2012 playmate of the month.


That's not really the Billy Jack point i was attempting to express though.

[justoneman]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
And if I take my clothes off I'm the June 2012 playmate of the month.


That's not really the Billy Jack point i was attempting to express though.

ok ok... point well taken (I do have an interesting visual though... quite complimentary too)