Where did all the oil go? U.S. press and scientists admit that BP spill is vanishing

[Studeo]

Where did all the oil go? U.S. press and scientists admit that BP spill is vanishing much faster than expected

He sparked outrage in the US when he suggested that the Gulf of Mexico oil spill was nothing but a drop in the ocean.
And he was hounded out of his job for overseeing one of the world’s worst oil disasters as pictures of dying seabirds floundering in oil dominated the front pages of the US press for weeks on end.
But now, 16 days after the leak was finally stopped, scientists are coming forward to suggest that perhaps BP boss Tony Hayward may have been right after all.
Oil from the well is clearing from the sea surface much faster than scientists expected.
Indeed, some are asking whether the original threat was actually exaggerated.
And just over 100 days after the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig exploded in the Gulf of Mexico, killing 11 workers, the water around the Gulf is almost entirely clear.
The backtracking by the US media in particular stands in stark contrast to the way in which they pursued Mr Hayward in the wake of the spill.

Time Magazine, The Washington Post, the New York Times and Vanity Fair have all now raised the prospect that the much-maligned ex-BP boss may have been right after all.
The disaster led BP to a record £11bn loss, after it set aside £21billion to pay for the clean-up of the Gulf, fines and legal liabilities.
And BP's woes have a direct knock-on affect on ordinary British people with most having pensions which hold the oil giant, always a generous payer of dividends, in their portfolio.
Officials estimate that between 107 million gallons and 184 million gallons spewed into the Gulf before the cap stopped the flow on the 15th July....


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[Pan]

Posted by Studeo (here)

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I think in retrospect this oil "spill" has a lot in common with 9/11.

More or less the same people behind the curtain and the same modus operandi.

Though this issue has shown us a few interesting things.
The majorety of the alternative media is not in it to present actual news. (Who knew right *laughs*)
We as gamechangers have no sense of bearing and are completly under control.

"We" know that we are being controlled etc etc, but what I mean is that with every major event our emotions and reactions are being played as fine instruments.
And while we are aware of that, for some reason a lot of "people" who are in this "movement" though that they could exclude themself from this practice. Fool me once and all that.

I'm going to let the question in the thread title go unanswered because its more then obvious where the oil whent.

[Etherios]

SO you guys really thing this is over? And we over reacted on something not important?

You know the oil has a natural disolve timetable... it doesnt vanish from "view" in a few days/weeks.... its takes time for it to be disolved by the sea... Its the corexit that is "HIDDING" the oil inside the waters....

Just because you dont see black spots it doesnt mean its gone. Bah anyway its gone we can go back to sleep again.

[Pan]

Posted by Etherios (here)
SO you guys really thing this is over? And we over reacted on something not important?
.

Not at all.
This is an event that will linger for generations to come. I'm not sure about how oil interacts with seawater but Corexit is not healthy. Not even close, this event is by all definitions a crime against humanity and it is holding future generations in hostage.

But the emotions and desire for change were deflected from the real target.
Just imagine what could happen if people's desires would have been projected onto the real actors of this event.
Like I said in my previous post, for all intents and purposes this event is pretty much a rinse and repeat of 9/11.

We should be able to reckognise that and learn from it.
That does not mean that everybody should go back to sleep, the opposite from that infact.
Its more a call for a better management and directing of the power we really have.

[Swami]

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJc8iJZpMLk

[LeeEllisMusic]

When will oil spill be cleaned up? Maybe never

By Curtis Morgan | McClatchy Newspapers

After more than three months, BP appears finally to have gotten a firm grasp on its runaway Deepwater Horizon well. Now the big question in the Gulf of Mexico is how, and if, an environmental mess of unprecedented scope can be cleaned up.

Only last week did federal spill managers begin discussing with state and parish leaders in Louisiana, the hardest hit state, how to set the standards for declaring the nation's largest offshore oil spill officially mopped up.

"How do we get to the inevitable question of how clean is clean?" said retired Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, the Obama administration's point man on the spill.

Many scientists and environmentalists believe there won't be a quick or easy answer.

"We've never dealt with this before, the complication of this much oil coming from the deep sea and being hit heavily with chemical dispersants," said Ron Kendall, director of the Institute of Environmental and Human Health at Texas Tech University. ''We have conducted the largest environmental toxicology experiment in the history of this country in the Gulf of Mexico."

There are some signs the experiment may not have the cataclysmic long-term ripple effects originally feared. Conditions have clearly — and dramatically — improved in the Gulf in the two weeks since BP capped its well.

A massive slick once the size of Florida has shrunk faster than anyone expected. The Coast Guard reported blue water over the Deepwater Horizon site last week and so little floating oil that skimming vessels were burning more fuel motoring around the Gulf than they were finding.

Though incomplete, initial field surveys found less than 400 acres of oiled Louisiana marsh, with most oil collected along the outer fringes. Gov. Bobby Jindal even reopened some bayou waters to commercial fishing on Friday.

Terry Hazen, a microbial ecologist at the Lawrence Berkeley National Lab in California, credited the Gulf's self-healing powers. Unlike the nutrient-lean waters of Alaska, still suffering lingering effects from the Exxon Valdez two decades ago, the Gulf teems with bacteria that eat for oil and gas leaking from natural deep-sea seeps.

"Petroleum is one of the easiest toxic compounds to degrade," said Hazen. "People forget it's a biological substance. It's been down there a long time, but it has been sequestered in an environment when it can't biodegrade."

In the warm, wave-churned, microbe-rich Gulf, nature alone might already have consumed 30 to 50 percent of the oil. A tropical system stronger than meek Bonnie could further disperse the oil, speeding the process even more.

Yet even combining natural forces with months of burning, skimming and siphoning, the most optimistic estimates suggest tens of millions of gallons remain in the Gulf. It could be soaked into unsurveyed marshes, adrift in countless gobs too small and scattered to show up in satellite images or — most concerning — still under water.

Much of what remains will likely be difficult, or impossible, to capture or clean up.

"The sheer volume of oil that's out there has to mean there will be some very significant impacts," said Jane Lubchenco, administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which has a team calculating an "oil budget'' intended to narrow down how much crude remains unaccounted for and where it might be.

Rocky Kistner of the Natural Resources Defense Council found plenty in plain and ugly sight during a 10-mile trip last week along the Louisiana delta into Barataria Bay.

Kistner, who mans the Gulf Resource Center that NRDC set up in the delta fishing village of Buras, documented the mess on his blog to counter perceptions the Gulf was clean again, a spin he dismissed as "deception by dispersal."

While BP and federal managers were stressing how hard it had become to find enough oil to skim, Kistner was motoring with a local fisherman through big, mostly lifeless pockets of what resembled "spongy orange cake batter'' that put out an overpowering odor "like being stuck in a gas station with all the pump nozzles pointing at your face."

Local shrimpers, he said, worry BP's heavy use of chemical dispersants, sanctioned by the federal government as a trade-off to keep oil from fragile marshes and off vulnerable sea birds, instead has left it to settle into their fishing grounds, out of sight and mind.

"You start trawling shrimp boats through that stuff, you're setting yourself up with a big mess," Kistner said. "That's going to start this whole chain reaction."

Many scientists share the concerns. They say dispersants and submerged oil are X-factors complicating cleanup and making the prospects of a quick Gulf recovery uncertain.

BP's blownout well poured 10 to 20 times the volume of oil into the Gulf of Mexico than the Exxon Valdez spill into Prince William Sound in Alaska. BP added another 1.8 million gallons of Corexit, a dispersant federal environmental regulators acknowledge can kill or disrupt reproduction in everything from plankton to fish.

The oil giant's submersible robots pumped three-quarters of a million gallons directly into the flow at the sea-floor, a technique never tried or tested before. Scientists suspect the dispersant contributed to the creation of the massive plumes discovered extending as far as 142 miles in one direction from the blown-out well and 42 miles in another.

"That's really the big, big issue," said Susan Shaw, director of the Marine Environmental Research Institute in Maine. "Once you have got that dispersed oil, there is no way to clean it."

The concentrations, ranging from 0.5 to 0.75 parts per million near the well to trace levels farther away fall below the 1 part per million mark considered toxic for marine life. But biologists warn that exposure, particularly over time, could harm or disrupt reproduction for some marine life, particularly for plankton and larvae that form the base of the marine food chain.

Shaw, among a group of scientists who formally urged the federal government to halt dispersant use, believes the combination of oil and chemicals would be more toxic than either alone — with solvents helping oil penetrate cells.

Robert Weisberg, a professor of oceanography at the University of South Florida, whose analysis of currents helped direct colleagues to the plumes, said it could take years, and generations of fish, for scientists to assess the spill's full impacts.

For now, he said, it's only a guess how much oil may be down there and whether it's harmless or harmful.

"We are operating out of ignorance," he said. "It may be no threat whatsoever or it may be a serious threat. The concentrations are low but we're talking about a very large area."

Federal cleanup commanders stress that they're committed to capturing every barrel possible — and getting BP to pay for it. With slicks harder to find at sea, they're shifting local boats from skimming to tarball patrols, a job Allen predicted would continue for at least four to six weeks.

Oceanographer Hans Graber, director of the University of Miami's satellite sensing facility, expects oil problems to persist long after the last skimmer has docked and the last boom picked up, decontaminated and packed away.

"It's probably a fair guess to say we're looking at years, if not tens of years, for

all of this stuff to eventually come to the surface'' he said.



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[Elandiel BernElve]

This might sound weird, and I haven't got any proof or written articles in English about it that I can refer you to.

But Dolphins can be a reason for a faster clean up of the oil spill.

I think we all agree Dolphins are extraordinary creatures that surpass our understanding in many ways. They posess powers we don't understand nor know about.
I'm not sure how this is appreciated here in Avalon but to me they might be guardians and helpers to this planet. Always joyful and loving. Some even considering it to be extra terrestials from origin.

I read some dutch articles stating that using their sonar and special abilities they can dissolve oil on a molecular level using whether their sonar or other psionic abilities.
As scientifically proven before, the ocean seems to contain a lot of bacteria that thrive on the presence of oil. Dolphins seem to activate and route these bacterias making them more efficient.
They're like the CO's (commanding officers) of the ocean, organizing it's defenses.

As we don't have big brother cameras with CBS eyes in the ocean we can't imagine on what level life manages to survive and organize itself there.

I tend to believe this Dolphin theory to some extent and give them credit for their courage to help us.

Love & Peace

[Snowbird]

The answer to the title question on this thread, Where did all the oil go?, is the same question that will be asked by TPTB. The answer to this question, will be used to calm the masses and will be used to relieve TPTB of any and all wrong-doing.

The question should really be, Where did all the Corexit go? We know where all the oil is. Its at the bottom of the Gulf. In fact, it has been estimated that 99% of the oil plumes are now resting on the bottom of the ocean floor. The hundreds of thousands of barrels of Corexit accomplished that.

It is the Corexit that is killing all life in the Gulf of Mexico.

Where did all the Corexit go?

[Pan]

Posted by Snowbird (here)


Where did all the Corexit go?

Yup, that is indeed the question we should be asking.
And to add, where will it go next?

The insanity has no limit in this event.

[sjkted]

I have a theory on this. From watching the public coverage and hearing the first-hand witness accounts, it should be no surprise to everyone that nearly everything BP has done is to avoid or minimize liability. By keeping media and scientists out of the disaster area, there could be no accurate count of how many barrels/gallons had spilled other than what BP decided to state. If BP was able to dump massive amounts of oil-eating microbes into the water, much of the oil could literally "disappear" by the time they opened it back up to the public. By that time, there would be absolutely no evidence of the oil and BP would avoid liability for a larger quantity of oil spilled.

--sjkted

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Posted by sjkted (here)
I have a theory on this. From watching the public coverage and hearing the first-hand witness accounts, it should be no surprise to everyone that nearly everything BP has done is to avoid or minimize liability. By keeping media and scientists out of the disaster area, there could be no accurate count of how many barrels/gallons had spilled other than what BP decided to state. If BP was able to dump massive amounts of oil-eating microbes into the water, much of the oil could literally "disappear" by the time they opened it back up to the public. By that time, there would be absolutely no evidence of the oil and BP would avoid liability for a larger quantity of oil spilled.

--sjkted

Yes sjkted,

I have to agree - and I also agree that the corexit is as big of a problem as the oil. It has already shown up in the larvae of the crabs. I am very concerned that they are already opening up certain areas to fishing. Supposedly the University of Calif. has tested the fish being sent out to the public markets for oil, but I've seen no reports that they've tested these fish for corexit. And has anyone tested the rain falling in the states around the Gulf to see if corexit is now being spread that way? I doubt it.

Although I must say I love the dolphin info ~ perhaps we all need to focus are energy to these lovely creatures and than believe in miracles!

Peace, Ba-ba-Ra

[LeeEllisMusic]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_669243.html

Missing Gulf Coast Oil Appears To Be Welling Up Under Barrier Island Beaches 08- 3-10 04:00 PM


Last week, BP managed to finally cap the Deepwater Horizon oil volcano and the media suddenly found itself in the grips of a baffling problem with object permanence. Where did all the oil go, they wondered. Had it disappeared? Was it eaten by microbes? Did it get Raptured up to Oil Heaven? It was a mystery, wrapped in a miracle! At least it was until Mother Jones reporter Mac McClelland took about a minute to send some text messages to colleagues in the field, inquiring after the oil's whereabouts. They answered back: Where is the oil? How does all over the place grab you?

Over at The Upshot, Brett Michael Dykes highlights this report from WVUE in New Orleans, which confirms that the oil did not, in fact, fortuitously disappear into thin air:

According to WVUE correspondent John Snell, local officials dispatched a dive team to a barrier island off of southeastern Louisiana's Plaquemines parish to scan the sea floor for oil. The team, however, could barely see the sea floor, due to the current murky state of the area waters. But when the divers returned to shore, they made a rather remarkable discovery: tiny holes that burrowing Hermit crabs had dug into the ground effectively became oil-drilling holes. When the divers placed pressure on the ground near the holes, oil came oozing up.
WATCH:
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/8001294/21211370

[MargueriteBee]

It seems to me that the 'reason' for the oil spill was to get as much corexit intot the ecosystem as possible. In order to destroy it.

First Hurricane Katrina and now this, why is the Gulf under attack?

[Snowbird]

Posted by Pan (here)
Yup, that is indeed the question we should be asking.
And to add, where will it go next?

The insanity has no limit in this event.

Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)
Yes sjkted,

I have to agree - and I also agree that the corexit is as big of a problem as the oil. It has already shown up in the larvae of the crabs. I am very concerned that they are already opening up certain areas to fishing. Supposedly the University of Calif. has tested the fish being sent out to the public markets for oil, but I've seen no reports that they've tested these fish for corexit. And has anyone tested the rain falling in the states around the Gulf to see if corexit is now being spread that way? I doubt it.

Although I must say I love the dolphin info ~ perhaps we all need to focus are energy to these lovely creatures and than believe in miracles!

Peace, Ba-ba-Ra

The rain has been tested at various times and to varying degrees. One such test which took place a number of years ago, as told by Dr. Ted Loder from The Orion Project, was performed hundreds of miles from the coasts after a huge rainstorm that originated from the coasts. What was found, which can be heard at the link below, at around the 2-minute mark, was marine plankton in the rainfall.

We've all heard about hundreds of frogs and fish being rained down on cities around the globe. Corexit can easily be picked up during a storm and carried hundreds if not thousands of miles. What is thought to be acid rain is already happening in Ohio, Iowa, New York, etc. This is the reason that people everywhere are being urged to find a water supply that can be trusted.

BP Oil Spill [World Puja] with Dr. Steven Greer (June 11, 2010) Part 3 of 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmuWy...eature=related

[sunnyrap]

David Wilcock, who, whatever else you may think about him, is a fine researcher with some definite insider connections, has a more positive report on the oil spill:
http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/st...56-endoilspill

[Snowbird]

Posted by sunnyrap (here)
David Wilcock, who, whatever else you may think about him, is a fine researcher with some definite insider connections, has a more positive report on the oil spill:
http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/st...56-endoilspill

I normally don't follow DW, but that doesn't mean that I mistrust his judgment.

He seems to relax a bit in the article that you posted, Sunnyrap. What caught my attention, I have copied/pasted below.

I cannot ever know for certain if the data I get is true -- and of course, if you post something that turns out to be incorrect, a chorus of naysayers immediately try to pin your entire credibility on what this one insider said to you. It's a mess.

The most sickening thing I learned is that the New World Order forces originally were planning on allowing this gusher to continue without interruption.

This way they could continue pursuing their goals of reducing the population of the planet. Furthermore, the crises could lead to massive migrations and even martial law to manage the chaos.

Suffice it to say that the things I heard about what would happen if they did not stop this were even worse than what most of the paranoid conspiracy sites were talking about.

They no longer had a handy-dandy tool to pursue their sickening goals of population reduction. Instead, they had a situation that would destroy life on Earth for everyone if it was not stopped -- including their own friends, allies, wives and children.

[Swami]

Corexit Tied To 'Dengue Fever' In Florida?

Outbreak Leads Back To CIA And Army Experiments
By H.P. Albarelli Jr. and Zoe Martell
7-22-10

Because of these reported cases, the Florida Keys Mosquito Control District conducted greatly increased aerial spraying to control mosquitoes. Following the spraying, a small amount of other cases were reported, including that of a 41-year-old Key West man who found blood in his urine and had severely aching joints. Following these additional reports, the CDC launched its study of antibodies in Key West residents and found that 5 percent of the town's residents have been exposed to the dengue virus. Said CDC dengue expert, Dr. Christopher J. Gregory, "The best estimate from the survey is that about 5 percent of [residents] was infected in 2009 with dengue." Gregory also stated, "We have known for a while it is a possible risk, but this outbreak shows it is more than possible: It is something that did happen and could happen again."

Despite the low-key nature of the Florida release, the Homeland Security Administration immediately issued a "terror alert" concerning the findings and Monroe County, within which Key West is located, also issued its own health advisory warning "effective immediately."

http://www.rense.com/general91/corex.htm

[Wood]

I 'd like to suggest the possibility that the healing energy coming from focused meditation by many people (thousands?) might have helped.
Of course it is something that can't be proven.
I find it strange how the situation has gone from awful to [almost] fixed so quickly, and some people (Bill Ryan included) talked about a change they felt, a change in the energy.

[Pan]

Posted by Wood (here)
I 'd like to suggest the possibility that the healing energy coming from focused meditation by many people (thousands?) might have helped.
Of course it is something that can't be proven.
I find it strange how the situation has gone from awful to [almost] fixed so quickly, and some people (Bill Ryan included) talked about a change they felt, a change in the energy.

Well, there certainly was a massive interaction with the energy field. I don't need anyone's proof for that.
And I know many people focused their thoughts on the situation.

But I think we should avoid the trap of falling into a purely metaphysical explanation.
Miracle's do happen, but I'm more inclined to think that we were being and are being played.

[sjkted]

Posted by Pan (here)
Well, there certainly was a massive interaction with the energy field. I don't need anyone's proof for that.
And I know many people focused their thoughts on the situation.

But I think we should avoid the trap of falling into a purely metaphysical explanation.
Miracle's do happen, but I'm more inclined to think that we were being and are being played.

I don't normally side with DW, but in this case I think he's pretty much on the ball when he says this is a frequency war. Our collective thoughts do manifest the future. If we all believe 100% that doom and gloom will happen, the potential will be created for it to happen, and then nobody will bother to stop it because they are stuck in apathy.

This in many ways reminds me of swine flu. It was much hyped by both the government and the alternative media (of course, radically different views). In the end, no swine flu materialized and aside from a few cases here in there, I haven't heard of many cases who died or suffered from either the swine flu or the vaccine.

I'm not trying to marginalize how serious it is of the people who have lost their livelihoods and health in the Gulf, but it's just not quite on that same level as an ELE.

--sjkted