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    Default How many souls are currently incarnating on Earth?

    Is there an ever increasing or greater than anticipated callout for souls going out into the universe to incarnate on Earth during this time?

    Would this be necessary in order to reach or maintain a collective consciousness that would see us through this difficult time to one of peace and love?
    Are we already there, is our safe passage guaranteed?
    Is there safety in numbers?

    Assuming there are many different types of incarnations including 'Soul-Braids', Walk-Ins', Indigo's, Souls with a long history here on this earth, some from other planets, other places and many more.. (not forgetting Inelia and her mission)

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    Something I was just pondering on this morning and was curious to know what everyone elses thoughts were on the number of souls incarnating.
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    Is there an ever increasing or greater than anticipated callout for souls going out into the universe to incarnate on Earth during this time?

    Would this be necessary in order to reach or maintain a collective consciousness that would see us through this difficult time to one of peace and love?
    Are we already there, is our safe passage guaranteed?
    Is there safety in numbers?

    Assuming there are many different types of incarnations including 'Soul-Braids', Walk-Ins', Indigo's, Souls with a long history here on this earth, some from other planets, other places and many more.. (not forgetting Inelia and her mission)

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    Something I was just pondering on this morning and was curious to know what everyone elses thoughts were on the number of souls incarnating.
    I think the reason so many souls are choosing to incarnate know some

    being long term residents here and others just coming to take a peak is

    because we are in a period of transition. If look at things from a learning

    perspective, then there is a great deal to be learned in experiencing a race

    transition from light to dark.



    Here is someone who has done research in this field.

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    Default Re: How many souls are currently incarnating on Earth?

    Approximately ten percent of human bodies on this planet are occupied by "human" souls (or fallen angels who followed Lucifer during the fall). The other 90% are animal spirits incarnating in human bodies. The distribution is uneven, some areas have more simultaneous incarnates than others.

    I think that's about 700 million out of 7 billion total.

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    Default Re: How many souls are currently incarnating on Earth?

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    Approximately ten percent of human bodies on this planet are occupied by "human" souls (or fallen angels who followed Lucifer during the fall). The other 90% are animal spirits incarnating in human bodies. The distribution is uneven, some areas have more simultaneous incarnates than others.

    I think that's about 700 million out of 7 billion total.
    Out of curiosity, what is your source for the statistics you have provided in response?

    The reason I ask is that acording to "The RA Material" there are currently between 80 -100 million wanderers, walk-ins, etc. So the math seems to be debatable not to mention that 2nd density beings (most animals) would be given a pass on 3rd density experience and jump straight into 4th density seems like a bit of a stretch, IMO.
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    Quote Posted by SoulAppreciation (here)

    Here is someone who has done research in this field.

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    Here is a different take about the history of this planet. Of course, this history has been scoffed at, ridiculed, ignored, etc....

    However, this history is derived from thousands of individuals reporting very similar accounts about the events summarized below.


    Historical
    Sector 9 history is of importance and interest to any sentient beings living in it. It helps explain why Earth has been shut off for so many millenia and only recently has become a candidate for re-admission to the Galactic Civilizations.

    In fact, Earth has passed through several stages officially since being destroyed by atomic and hydrogen nuclear bombs and made radioactive 75 million years ago.

    The inches-thick layer of dust produced by the catastrophe containing radioactive decay elements is well known by Geologists who find it in preserved rock strata, but who have no explanation for it other than "intensive volcanic activity about 70 million years ago". (Methods of use in geological dating are not as accurate as E-Meters yet.)

    After the catastrophe, Earth was declared by the Galactic Confederation to be "OFF LIMITS" and a "RESTRICTED ZONE".

    Over the millenia, official Galactic agencies such as the Biological Survey, the Planetary Survey, the Galactic Survey, and other Scientific and Administrative organizations have observed, tested, explored, and finally seeded the planet with new life forms. Most of these forms were transported from other planets in the Sector with similar environments. They finally survived here on Earth as a stable flora and fauna after the radioactivity levels died down to normal and mutation was not a big problem.

    Although the continents "drifted" apart rather rapidly in the eons following the catastrophe and were no longer in the same relationship to each other, attempts were made to duplicate the conditions existing previously. Thus, in the southern half of Africa, which had been a wildlife park, we today find many strange and varied species such as Zebras, Giraffes, Hippos, Ibex, Elephants, etc., which obviously could not have all "evolved" there, as this extreme variety occurs nowhere else on the planet.

    About a million years ago, it was deemed the correct time to put higher organism forms on Earth, so that the spiritual beings still trapped on the planet in varying degrees of shock and disorientation could find sentient bodies to occupy and begin the long, slow climb back to Civilization.

    Since at the time of the catastrophe there were many representatives of other planetary races on Earth (it had been a beautiful tourist-vacation type planet with large jeweled cities supporting a population of billions), initial stocks of all body types were transported to Earth and became what we know today as the various "races of man".

    After the rudiments of survival were established and group and political activity began - about 10,000 to 20,000 years ago - it become apparent that higher instruction was needed as the inhabitants were constantly dramatizing their aberrations and fears by wars, racial vendettas, and a general tendency to destroy all that had been so laboriously created to help them survive and prosper.

    Civilized beings from various Galactic Organizations volunteered to do "missions" on Earth, take human bodies and teach. Philosophy, Art, Science and Religion received great impetus from these programs.

    About 3500 years ago, an Honorary Grand Council Member and Galactic Patrol Commander of Sector 9, Elron Elray proposed a project to be done on Earth which would both bring it to a level of technological advancement and teach Mankind about his basic Spiritual Nature (Theta Endowment) so that he could develop a civilization capable and sane enough to be rejoined to the Galactic Community.

    The first attempt at this was called on Earth - Buddhism, for which Elron Elray took the human form of Gautama Siddartha. It resulted in a civilizing influence still felt today in over one-half the world's population.

    Through the centuries, many other 'missionaires' and volunteers helped spread civilization and technology against the reactive onslaught of warlike tribes and evil-intentioned leaders who took over and suppressed civilized groups.


    The Markabian Gambit
    About 250 years ago, the off-planet Markabians got into the act in a big way (there had been earlier attempts by them) by authorizing secretly (without Grand Council approval) a take-over project to get control of Earth and when it became acceptable in the Galactic Community, to have it annex itself to the Markabian system as the 8th major planet. Their clandestine agent, the infamous Xenu (see Sector Ethics Order 1A for details), took the body of Adam Weishaupt, the founder of the "Illuminati", a super-secret society which went about taking over other power groups by infiltration and economic coercion. The first big advance that was made was Xenu's take-over of a body in the Rothschild banking family so that after the War of 1812, the Illuminati became very wealthy and could in fact control many economic lines.

    A succession of taking key power-point bodies into the 20th Century and expanding secret-society influence has resulted in the control of the groups listed in Sector Operations Bulletin No 18.


    In the last 50 years, 200,000 Markabian "junior executives" have been clandestinely immigrated to Earth (again without Grand Council approval) to assist Xenu and his conspirators in the planetary take-over. They have taken over bodies of the key "insiders" of high-finance, banking, politics, industry, and the "secret societies" previously mentioned. Markabians are recognizable by their spiritual "blackness" and their "black-beam" flows. Also a lust for status and control and for enforcing "conformity" on others are typical Markabian characteristics.


    Markabians try to control or suppress the development of ideas which are necessary to fuel a civilization. By also tightly controlling and suppressing economics, energy sources, and food production and distribution they regulate (or attempt to) the survival of business, industry and human beings.


    Markabians are very good record-keepers and use the control mechanisms of identity cards, secret files, computer files, and paperwork to keep full track of their subject people. Their "ideal" government is somewhere between the Russian "overt" police-state and the Swedish "covert" police-state. (If you don't conform, it suddenly gets very overt.)


    Markabians don't think like Earth-people or Galactic missionaires. They have no concept of loyalty, honesty or justice, and will in fact fight viciously among themselves (out of sight of the public of course) for control and status.



    Full article here:http://www.freezone.de/english/cbr/sector9/e_sob19.htm

    On one hand, the above history may give one some inkling as to why Alex Collier's friends refer to Earth's population as "Genetic Royalties" or why "Charles/Atticus" would refer to the human species as an "experiment" or even why most humans are so easily triggered into fear and panic at the mere "IDEA" of a catastrophe.

    On the other hand, it also lends a reference frame to unravel the confusion reigning on Earth as to who are these "controllers" and so-called "rulers" of the NWO: many different groups with different agendas are all lumped together as illuminati, reptilians, lizzies, ETs, EDs, parasites... all of 'em s*ck*rs!
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    Amzer Zo,

    I'm not familiar with that one. Intersting perspective, but seems to be either a very condensed version or missing a lot of parts. The Markabian perspective provides a view of seeding on the dark side.

    The most definitive explanation I've read was "Pleiadian Perspectives on Human Evolution" by Amorah Quan Yin.

    Synopsis: The Pleiadian Emissaries of Light provide this fascinating chronicle of human spiritual evolution from a galactic perspective. This wider history of our solar system restores the long-forgotten connection of humankind with Venus, Mars, Maldek, and Earth. The truth about our ancient past is uncovered, helping us to remember the experiences that have caused us to function dualistically, and guiding us toward karmic wholeness as unified and divine beings.

    On-Line PDF: http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/2076607..._Evolution.pdf

    For a very detailed explanation of who arrived when, where, and whether they were new souls or from elsewhere prior to their first earthly incarnation be sure to check out Appendix C in the back of the E-Book (last 5 pages).


    Excerpt from Appendix C:

    APPENDIX C

    102,000 B.C. TO A.D. 1995

    102,000 B.C. was the beginning of what you might call the Divine Plan for Earth. Up until that time, seeding for the Divine Plan and a hierarchical order in the fourth through, ninth dimensions had been established. The subconscious patternings for the future races and their own enlightenment triggers had developed as well. The new soul root races for the most part were still fairly primitive, but some were connecting with Pleiadian-based groups on Earth and the fairies and merpeople. These interactions were accelerating their growth in the areas of language development and quality of life, though they remained intellectually quite simple. Merpeople began to go through a metamorphosis and intermarry with the more evolved humans on Lemuria between 102,000 B.C. and 96,000 B.C. This created the roots of a mixed Pleiadian/Maldekian/Sirian prototype for genetic encoding and soul evolution.

    At the onset the implementation of Earth’s Divine Plan, the orbital cycles around the central sun of the Pleiades, Alcyone, had stabilized to 26,000 years. Major Earth changes and a pole shift took place just prior to the changeover at 102,000 B.C., leaving the face of the planet dramatically changed. Some of the land masses that broke away from major continents literally became free floating, as a few were previously. (The map on the following pages shows the world at that time.) Though there have been many other planetary changes since that time, the maps for 145,500 B.C. and 102,000 B.C. are the ones Ra has channeled to me and asked me to present at this time. The soul groups and current races listed in the following chart will be shown in their approximate origin locations on the map. These will cover all major soul groups who arrived on Earth between 102,000 B.C. and modern times. Also included will be the surviving groups of people from pre-Divine Plan days shown in Appendix A. These latter surviving groups number 1 through 14. Under the column labeled “Earth or Cosmic Origin,” the Soul Group number from Appendix B will be given. A few of the original groups had no physical survivors at the time of the pole shift, but were reincarnated again in their original regions at a later time.

    All others will be shown with the year the beings arrived on Earth. You will notice that the numbers do not add up to the current population of Earth. This is because our current population includes soul fragments, soul split-aparts, twin flames, parallel lives, and even non-souled beings. In addition, many of the souls on Earth at this time were created by humans on Earth and by higher dimensional beings in other star systems and galaxies. These souls tend to arrive one at a time, or at the most in very small groups of a dozen or less. The information given below refers only to souled beings upon arrival in human form on the planet in larger groups. All dates given are B.C.

    There is one other group that has held a key role on the planet since the 102,000 B.C. turning point. This group is comprised of 144,000 Light Beings from the seventh through thirteenth dimensions. The number 144,000 is a key creation number and is the number of components of original consciousness. In other words, when the first conscious experience of God/Goddess/All That Is took place, it was as if that singular consciousness had been in “no mind” or dreamless sleep. Upon awaking, the first thought of this One consciousness was “I am” or “I exist,” and this was a great revelation. In a deep hypnosis state, I experienced this original self- consciousness revelation. When the One went to sleep again, it dreamed of itself and through dreaming created a second consciousness, which was the first experience of male and female. Within each consciousness lay 144,000 aspects, each aspect containing 144,000 smaller aspects. Therefore, the number 144,000 is the key to unlocking the human consciousness creation formula as well as eternal memory.

    104,000 years ago, in order to ground the Divine Plan on Earth, 144,000 Light Beings from the seventh through thirteenth dimensions throughout several galaxies volunteered to create souls through which to embody. Each agreed to first precipitate third- dimensional bodies in Lemuria and teach the mystery schools there. These beings had the ability to accelerate and decelerate their vibrational frequencies at will, thus becoming physical and non-physical as required. Later, these beings served similarly in Machu Picchu, Maya, and Egypt. Working with the sacred principle of the four directions, four elementals, and planetary balance, the higher- dimensional intervention in four cultures seeded the secrets of enlightenment and ascension for all humans. These 144,000 beings also took on lifetimes of human karma in much the way Mother Mary, or Ma-Ra, did in Lemuria. After attaining enlightenment, each one dreamed, or visioned, his or her future lives, including the karmic patterns, traumas, diseases, and transcendent experiences, as well as their own timing of future enlightenments and ascensions. Each one entered the path of either four or seven cycles of evolution and enlightenment, as described by Ra in Part IV. Within those cycles their souls split into male and female halves in order to experience separation, and eventual resolution of duality. And in each one’s final lifetime on Earth and in their final enlightenment or ascension, both soul parts, or twin flames, would be reborn into one body. Male/female balance and the initiation of unio conjunctio, inner sacred marriage, must be attained. When the Ascended Master Jesus Christ came to Earth almost 2000 years ago, he embodied the 144,000 within One. This seemingly miraculous event was preplanned before the beginning of the Divine Plan for Earth. The second coming of Christ en masse is when 144,000 individuals are all awakened to their own Christ consciousness at the same time. They are the collective bride of Christ: the divine counterpart with whom he mates and births transcendence and enlightenment for the entire human race, planet Earth, and beyond. Through the orgasmic merging of Christ and the 144,000, a great cycle is completed. And that orgasm will be one for all of us to remember.

    Woven within the tapestries of Venus, Mars, Maldek, and Earth histories are all the threads of hope, understanding, forgiveness, love, grace, wisdom, and transcendence needed to weave the new tapestry of the Age of Light. However, this tapestry will be woven collectively As I interweave the threads of my own nine-dimensional remembrance, and you interweave yours, and all the other awakening ones interweave theirs, we will have a glorious co-creation that is rich in all our colors, experiences, sounds, flavors, textures, and patterns. We are each whole and vital within ourselves and simultaneously interdependent. That is the beauty of the Divine Plan. It is an “all or nothing” plan. And we co-created it. We are finally nearing the completion point. Only total integrity, honoring of the sacredness and free will of all life, impeccability in daily living, and clearing of karmic patterns will work.
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    Amzer Zo,

    I'm not familiar with that one. Intersting perspective, but seems to be either a very condensed version or missing a lot of parts.

    The most definitive explanation I've read was "Pleiadian Perspectives on Human Evolution" by Amorah Quan Yin.

    [...]
    Hi StarDust!

    The difference between the account I posted and any other is that, as I wrote, it has been collected from 1000s of individual account of recall of their blood and guts experiences of these main events. Not from second-hand rewritten history from afar.

    In other words, this reconstructed history -- of the major events relevant to what's currently occurring on this planet -- has been gathered from current, actual living, breathing human beings dwellers of Earth's surface; in pretty much the same way as genuine deprogrammers have unravelled -- undoing the booby traps along the way -- the procedures used in Satanic, MKultra, bloodlines or rogue mind control programmings (see this post).

    For the above reasons, I am more inclined in beholding the data obtained in such a fashion over any other manners of data acquisition, especially the ones coming through channeled materials.
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    Amzer Zo,

    I'm not familiar with that one. Intersting perspective, but seems to be either a very condensed version or missing a lot of parts.

    The most definitive explanation I've read was "Pleiadian Perspectives on Human Evolution" by Amorah Quan Yin.

    [...]
    Hi StarDust!

    The difference between the account I posted and any other is that, as I wrote, it has been collected from 1000s of individual account of recall of their blood and guts experiences of these main events. Not from second-hand rewritten history from afar.

    In other words, this reconstructed history -- of the major events relevant to what's currently occurring on this planet -- has been gathered from current, actual living, breathing human beings dwellers of Earth's surface; in pretty much the same way as genuine deprogrammers have unravelled -- undoing the booby traps along the way -- the procedures used in Satanic, MKultra, bloodlines or rogue mind control programmings (see this post).

    For the above reasons, I am more inclined in beholding the data obtained in such a fashion over any other manners of data acquisition, especially the ones coming through channeled materials.
    The information you presented feels dark, IMO. That may be accounted for due to the methods by which the information was obtained. However, To each their own. Ultimately, both sides of the tale only accounts for interesting background info as a footnote to a much larger story. The true and accurate account is held within the Akashic Record which I am more than willing to hold out for.

    Edit: OK, your link says it all. It's dark for a reason and I'll take the Pleiadian perspective over that thread any day of the week.
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    in recent Bob Dean interview with Kerry he pretty much confirm what Alex Collier have said, we as human beings on earth are so special because we have rich pool of genetics over 12 Genes of different race. for this reason many et's came to earth abducting human begins and their agenda is our Genetics. we all human beings but our soul might be different, some comes from different places and incarnate to earth for over thousand of years. we have heard many different et's create human race but really what they do is create the physicality not the soul, more likely they modify a primates to human beings so i wonder how many original human soul. i believe 1 Billion of soul from other civilization incarnate on earth...
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    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    Edit: OK, your link says it all. It's dark for a reason and I'll take the Pleiadian perspective over that thread any day of the week.
    Dark it is and your choice won't change the reality too many people are suffering through daily because of a denial of it.
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    Quote Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    Edit: OK, your link says it all. It's dark for a reason and I'll take the Pleiadian perspective over that thread any day of the week.
    Dark it is and your choice won't change the reality too many people are suffering through daily because of a denial of it.
    LOL…"Denial"….that's a good one. It seems to be the common tactic these days for the dark side. I hate to break it to you, but that crap only works with weak minds. It's really funny actually since your dark empire has already lost!

    Thank you for revealing your true nature & enjoy the rising vibratory frequency…it makes a lizard sizzle...
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    I would't try to figure out the accurate number, since the whole theory were from channeling messagers...but I do believed many of us are non-terrestrial...
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    Default Re: How many souls are currently incarnating on Earth?

    Some interesting views there guys, we all have different opinions!

    Incarnating souls aside for a sec.. how many might be helping out from behind the scenes?
    Our graduation must be a major event being watched by an innumerable amount of souls!
    Those who agree to come here would obviously be highly respected


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    If we introduce Timelines/Parallel Worlds things get real interesting?
    Me, I don't know how many souls are incarnating and I don't need to know but I enjoy thinking about it!
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    Default Re: How many souls are currently incarnating on Earth?

    Another way to look at the problem is to think about the fact that so many souls stay on the Earth plane that really should be going home. We all have a mission to fulfill and even when some spirits have fulfilled it, they'd rather stay here instead of going where they need to go to either heal or go back to the Source. I don't think it's about quantity, but quality. We have a lot of "souls" here, but look at how messed up everything is.

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    Hey mate,

    That´s a hard question.

    If you believe reincarnation, since the population is always growing, it´s impossible that all souls here are actually reincarnated.

    So, some souls might be brand new, others (the huge minority) might be originally Earthly souls, others might come from other places and others might come from different Earthly animals.

    The fact is, that there´s no way to calculate that.

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    How can anyone know the answer to such a question? Furthermore….have the expertise put these souls into groups…

    For now, let’s just say I follow these beliefs….

    Just from observation alone, I would suggest that most of the incarnated souls here are very young and/or first timers…. simply because of the state of the world we are currently living in. Isn’t it logical that re-visitors would be more aware and pro-active? They would know that there’s a lack of time and came back primed and eager to get to work….but obviously this is not the case, right?

    Newbie’s are known for sitting around waiting and watching, sometimes they turn into delusional procrastinators whom have yet to discover their inner strengths or being. Like kids…they love fairy tales, they pretend a lot…they make believe everything is OK and they make believe something will come along and rescue them from themselves…

    The incarnation/re-incarnation theories remain inconclusive because dead folks tell no tales, but if it is true…why would anyone want to come back just to be aware of the suffering and do little to rid it…what’s the point?

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    Default Re: How many souls are currently incarnating on Earth?

    [QUOTE=Peace of Mind;488212]
    Quote How can anyone know the answer to such a question? Furthermore….have the expertise put these souls into groups…
    Your assumption is that there are no beings within the higher planes of existence that are responsible for such matters. That is a bold assertion within an infinitely intelligent universe.

    Quote Just from observation alone, I would suggest that most of the incarnated souls here are very young and/or first timers…. simply because of the state of the world we are currently living in. Isn’t it logical that re-visitors would be more aware and pro-active? They would know that there’s a lack of time and came back primed and eager to get to work….but obviously this is not the case, right?
    Your observation is incorrect. According to The RA Material, all incarnating souls participate/accept the "veil of forgetting". Regardless of how advanced the should was prior to incarnation, each person enters into the incarnational cycle with a proverbial Tabula Rosa (blank slate). This provides the function of leveling the playing field for each soul to progress at their own rate without some soles having a distinct advantage. While this can be very fair for some, it can also be a danger for others who can easily forget their intended mission and become trapped within karmic cycles or swayed by dark forces.

    You can read more about it here: http://www.lawofone.info/results.php...ng&sc=1&st=any

    Excerpt from Law of ONE with regard to the 'veil of forgetting':

    Questioner: Thank you. The forgetting process was puzzling me because you said that the fourth-density activated people who were here who had been harvested did not have the same forgetting problem. Could you tell me why the Wanderer loses his memory?

    Ra: I am Ra. The reason is twofold. First, the genetic properties of the connection between the mind/body/spirit complex and the cellular structure of the body is different for third density than for third/fourth density.

    Secondly, the free will of third-density entities needs be preserved. Thus Wanderers volunteer for third-density genetic or DNA connections to the mind/body/spirit complex. The forgetting process can be penetrated to the extent of the Wanderer remembering what it is and why it is upon the planetary sphere. However, it would be an infringement if Wanderers penetrated the forgetting so far as to activate the more dense bodies and thus be able to live, shall we say, in a god-like manner. This would not be proper for those who have chosen to serve.

    The new fourth-density entities which are becoming able to demonstrate various newer abilities are doing so as a result of the present experience, not as a result of memory. There are always a few exceptions, and we ask your forgiveness for constant barrages of over-generalization.

    Category: Wanderers


    Quote Newbie’s are known for sitting around waiting and watching, sometimes they turn into delusional procrastinators whom have yet to discover their inner strengths or being. Like kids…they love fairy tales, they pretend a lot…they make believe everything is OK and they make believe something will come along and rescue them from themselves…
    Are you advanced enough to make that assessment, or is this a casual observation based on a reflection of self?

    Quote The incarnation/re-incarnation theories remain inconclusive because dead folks tell no tales, but if it is true…why would anyone want to come back just to be aware of the suffering and do little to rid it…what’s the point?
    Incarnation/reincarnation within the lower Densities is to provide the soul with experience within the lower frequencies. Often times, these experiences are not available within the upper Densities and/or the experiences can be expedited here. Every experience a soul encounters was agreed upon prior to the incarnational cycle for the aforementioned reasons. In the case of Wanderers, we are here to serve Gaia and her people during this time of change. The potential dangers of suffering and forgetting one's path are real. In this sense we are willing to potentially sacrifice a great deal to aide the expansion of consciousness.
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