Who is DANIELE DAL BOSCO: His Personal Views

[Vivek]

Who is Daniele Dal Bosco?

The only thing that we've heard about him is that he was introduced to Fulford and Keenan by Leo Zagami - and he (Dal Bosco) claimed to be a Vatican Banker.

Then, after a vetting of sorts, trust was established between Mr. Dal Bosco and Mr. Keenan. So, Neil Keenan handed over One Trillion Dollar's worth of bonds to Dal Bosco and Dal Bosco stole them.

This is what we are told, but there are two sides (or more) to every story.

Daniele Dal Bosco hasn't had a say in all of this other than the notoriety given to him by the very people he has made beef with.

Daniele Dal Bosco's e-mail address (may now be expired) is registered as the Administrator for the website below, and he posted there under the name "Dani" (short for Daniele).

This thread in no way speaks directly to his motives or speaks for him, but I believe there is something to be taken about the man's perogatives based on what he has written in the past (i.e. his personal philosophies).

This is his website:

www.ascensione.com

It is in Italian so you will need to plug it in to a translator (i.e. Google or Babelfish).

Within that site are Dal Bosco's personal views on banking/finance/economics, government, and sovereignty along with ascension science, reptilians, etheric entities, archetypes and de-programming. He could have very well been a member here on PA (he is/was not).

I am still going through all of the material, but I will share some of the general excerpts of interest that I have come across so far (I have merely taken the first and last two paragraphs to conserve space).

Dal Bosco on Economics and Social Structure:

We are accustomed to think to a social structure to classes or, in other words, pyramidal. But is truly this purer the social structure that exists?

Although in the modern democracies real social classes do not exist, there is however a clear pyramidal hierarchy that is based on the money. It is the money in fact that, in the modern societies, it determines the pyramidal structure. The same concept of power today is meant like infuence on people, and this always depends in last analysis from the amount of possessed money. Even loaded in theory not associated directly to the amount with money possessed as that politics and that religious one enjoy only being able based on the ability that they have to influence that is on people and, in last analysis, on the ability to move the money own piacimento.

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The creation of the money from private ago yes that the amount of money in circulation insufficient and is limited to desires of the private bankers. And such sparsity of money regarding that one of which the society it would have need creates a fight for the existing money, not sufficient for all. A competitive society is created that is and not more pure competitive. Such problem easy would be resolved if he were the Government to create the currency from the nothing. Only in such a way in fact the money necessary could be created in order to give the possibility to all of having a dignitosa life (sees also article n.18 the True Origin of the Prices).

The competitive mechanism is therefore fundamental and necessary in order to continue to stimulate the increase it characterizes them of everyone of we and consequently collective. It is right that everyone of we is a little egoist and tasks in the first place to if same, for being able better to then help other from a more favorable position. The egoismo is a pure attitude and necessary in order to grow truly, at least fintantoché the others in ours are not damaged to act. Fintantoché that is we are competitive and not competitive we are useful to same we and the society. In other words, we support our personal ascension and the total ascension.

Read full article here: http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate...rUrl=Translate

Dal Bosco on True Currency:

In order to comprise the concept of Currency it is necessary to analyze the logical origin of the same one, an origin that not by force corresponds always with that historical one: not always in fact the humans have lived and created a True Logic second (see art.86).

We better see therefore the development logical of the concept of Currency.

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In case of defect of currency in the system regarding the production costs, instead, it means that or a cost has been conteggiato like production cost that has not been paid in currency, or that production costs with a various currency from that emitting from the local community have been paid. In the first case there is an obvious punibile irregolarità from the respective public judicial organ, in the second is instead solo to verify with the issuing monetary organs the other foreign coins in issue if the payments carried out in such coins turning out from the budgets correspond to their calculations.

The issuing public organ a True Currency has therefore the task to only take part when there is an excess of currency regarding the real goods and services (measured like saying from the production costs); in the event of defect of currency regarding the real goods and services, in fact, it certainly does not depend from the issuing organ currency since the same organ controls all directly the monetary mass it on credit emits and it alone and exclusively like production cost and: what that guarantees the logical impossibility of a sparsity of currency in the system regarding the goods and services.

Read full article here: http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate...rUrl=Translate

Dal Bosco on the Yield of Citizenship:

Recently a concept of yield of citizenship has become of public debate in economic within, or institutional that Many are not the proposals that have been made with regard to but up to now they have had little happened to political level. However, this that I would want to discuss now is not as well as the effectiveness of the single proposals, that it would be oltretutto much expensive one, how much the ammissibilità of the same idea of yield of citizenship.

The proposal of a yield of citizenship is based generally on the idea that every human being has straight, only for the fact to exist, to having a dignitosa life and therefore a house, of the food, the garments and other things considered () subjective fundamental for a worthy life of a human being. In short, the right to the life is asserted here. And dignitosa life.

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Rather, it is moral duty of every member of the community to give own contribution to the community and to share own acquaintances and own experience with the others. Beyond this limit, it is interfered with in the other people's freedom to make own choices and to create a sure life. Paradoxicalally, the better way in order to help the others is to leave them free to make what they want and not to interfere in their choices, because the life is always theirs.

To share acquaintance, experience and love, but never to interfere if not demanded. This is to my judgment the true one must to moral of every member of the community and the principle base on which a community would have to be based.

Read full article here: http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate...rUrl=Translate

Dal Bosco on True Government:

3 possible forms of Government exist: the government of a solo, the government of a part of the collectivity and the government of all the collectivity. We now try to understand which between these 3 government is the better form than. Or perhaps it is possible that the better form than government it is a detail combination of they? We see a little.

We think that every member of the community must have the same possibility to enter to make part of the government of the same community. It must be that is respected the principle of Fairness, second which every member has the same power (executive, legislative and judicial) in the choices of the community. Such principle practically means that every member of the thought community able to mean and of wanting (greater age, no insufficiency lies them) must have the possibility eleggere the politicians (to be able executive and legislative) and the judges (judicial power) which representatives of the community in the administration of the respective powers; and it same elect for such charges also must have the possibility to be, provided that able to mean and of wish.

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Now, since a complex society needs of persons who take care themselves of many governmental but equally important ones various issues from those, is natural that the better solution is that only some persons dedicate themselves to the government issues. Therefore the system of ideal government is a system constituted from a sure number of representatives of the community that carries out the governmental functions. This is the True Government.

The power in the hands of a single person could be favorable for all solos if such person was perfect, what that only God Is. Therefore, less than God do not make yourself alive between we, the perfect form of Government is the government of a part of the members of the community. In short the system puts into effect adopted them also in Italy, with the single difference that the system of ideal voting and that rispecchia the 3 principles of Fairness, Merit and Will is that one proporziona pure them.

Read full article here: http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate...rUrl=Translate

Dal Bosco on Social Solidarity:

The term Solidarity is a term a lot used nowadays. With it the aid is usually indicated that it comes offered regarding the needy persons, a kind of redistribuzione of the well-being, not only monetary, between the persons who form a determined community.

What means to make of the good for own community and to help own similar ones? To my judgment, the true social aid is given, in the within of the redistribuzione of the well-being, allowing to all the active members of the community to take to part to the social activities and those not active (children, old, disabili of miscellaneous type) of having a worthy life of such name. In short, the concept of true social aid consists in favoring integration of every member of the community based on those which they are its possibilities of contribuzione to the social well-being, except the case of the not active ones.

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It is thought from we also just who the quota Social Security supplied to a not active member or an active member but not more contributor in way directed with own job to the well-being of the community for the reasons of which over or ALWAYS the same one, independently from the fact that the member of the active or not active community or and independently from the type of social job that or be carried out.

It is thought from we corrected, in fact, than every member of the community that does not contribute with own job to the community it must have the same value for the community, anyone is such subject. This is the true Social Solidarity, based on the principles of Fairness, Respect and Justice.

These are just a fraction of what he has written regarding government, economics, society and the like.

Here is a list of articles to search through:

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate...rUrl=Translate

The translations aren't that great but you can see what he's trying to get across. Some of the words didn't translate at all, so you may have to plug them into a translator individually.

I believe he had a hand in founding the Global School of Ascension, and is connected to a couple of other website's as well.

www.ascensione.org

www.veriamici.com

The next couple of posts will deal with other topics of interest that he has written about as well. Such as reptilians and manipulative etheric entities. Very interesting, in my opinion. Some of the stuff of his I could copy and paste right on Houman's thread (linked to in my signature).

There is also channeled material on the site (I can't confirm whether or not it was indeed Dal Bosco that channeled the material). *EDIT* I have now confirmed this.

A bulk of the channeled material deals with ascension science, de-programming, spiritual cosmology, etc.

The names of the "channeled entities" are Mother Earth, Metatron, Lucifer, Sananda, the Great Central Sun, and Archangel Michael. (I think there are others too).

Remember, this is the man that absconded with the bonds. I think there is much more to be said.

[Neptun]

I know Dani very well. He is a very nice guy and he knows about my anti-NWO views and he seems like he is against it too. We have talked about it many times.

I don't think he would steal those bonds, because it does not make sense. We have talked about when someone knows the real knowledge of making money, then it will not make any sense to be a scam artist. That is why I can't understand, why he would be part of that scam.

I have always seen him as someone with high business ethics.

I don't have all the facts in this case. But I'm not convinced, he is part of it.

[Vivek]

Posted by Neptun (here)
I know Dani very well. He is a very nice guy and he knows about my anti-NWO views and he seems like he is against it too. We have talked about it many times.

I don't think he would steal those bonds, because it does not make sense. We have talked about when someone knows the real knowledge of making money, then it will not make any sense to be a scam artist. That is why I can't understand, why he would be part of that scam.

I have always seen him as someone with high business ethics.

I don't have all the facts in this case. But I'm not convinced, he is part of it.

Thank you Neptun,

Please check your PM box.

-Vivek

[Vivek]

Remember when Zagami first hit the scene?

Well, here is Dani on GLP in 2006.

He is USER ID: 169984

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage317802/pg1

[Vivek]

The Ascended Masters by Dani:

In 1998, When for the first time I consciously Entered into contact with some telepathic Beings Who Called Themselves the Ascended Masters, even if I did not Understand where and how, I felt a real interest in Them to guide me and support me in my spiritual growth. It was around this time That I started reading New Age material of people around the world, Called "channels" (channels), who Claimed to channel information from Beings Of Various sizes and Ascended Masters, Belonging to a planetary spiritual hierarchy but un certain cases even higher.

My curiosity led me to fall in with Beings who Were Called Djwhal Khul, Sananda, Ashtar, Melchizedek, and to being a soul group who Called Himself Called Mahatma. In the same year I got in touch telepathically with a living person who calls Sai Baba, who lives in India.

I became quickly aware that the thoughts that I felt could be a figment of my imagination, but repeated tests and experiments made me realize that this was not fantasy, but my thoughts never came in contact with them. But not seeing anything with the meaning and feeling, I did not know what was the source of these thoughts and imagined that these creatures really existed somewhere.

Now I am sure that we got in touch because I had just read that New Age material on the Internet where I read channeled material, and I think if I had never heard those names in my life I will never come into contact. It was this fact that I am not fully convinced about the existence of these "masters", although there were information that felt real and interesting.

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Basically, anyone can communicate with its source simply by thinking we can do and then incorporating that thought in itself. But everyone can communicate only with that part of himself which corresponds to the vibration that is achieved in individual ascension process.

So those who communicate with these teachers are actually talking to himself and the information brought out is that one can access information at that time taking them out of himself. In reality it is as if talking with a fragment of his soul, but rather than being called Ashtar Sananda.

When a person reaches a level that would be able to communicate directly with their core complete (usually around level 3000) then it will communicate directly with it. Where "soul shard" we mean a part of its awareness of that moment, and "whole soul" or "source" we mean the totality of one's awareness of that moment.

The right to communicate with a fragment of soul through these thought-forms etheric is still risky as you are likely to remain attached to these thought-forms (which have rather low frequencies) and thereby restrict the continuation of his ascension.

Full article can be read here (with Q & A): http://translate.google.com/translat...26prmd%3Dimvns

[Paul]

Posted by Vivek (here)
Well, here is Dani on GLP in 2006.

He is USER ID: 169984

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage317802/pg1

That GodLikeProductions link doesn't get to the page you intended for me ... instead I get a page inviting me to log in to GLP.

[Paul]

Posted by Vivek (here)
The Ascended Masters by Dani:

In 1998, when for the first time I entered consciously into contact with some telepathic beings who called themselves the Ascended Masters, even if I did not understand where and how, I felt a real interest in them to guide me and support me in my spiritual growth.

In 1998, When for the first time I consciously Entered into contact with some telepathic Beings Who Called Themselves the Ascended Masters, even if I did not Understand where and how, I felt a real interest in Them to guide me and support me in my spiritual growth. ...

Just about every sentence in your quoted translation is repeated twice .

[Vivek]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Vivek (here)
Well, here is Dani on GLP in 2006.

He is USER ID: 169984

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage317802/pg1

That GodLikeProductions link doesn't get to the page you intended for me ... instead I get a page inviting me to log in to GLP.

I looked at the link, it's just what I copied and pasted. I am not a member but it will display for me.

Try typing "Ex-Illuminati mason speaks out" into google and it should be the first link to GLP.

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Vivek (here)
The Ascended Masters by Dani:

In 1998, when for the first time I entered consciously into contact with some telepathic beings who called themselves the Ascended Masters, even if I did not understand where and how, I felt a real interest in them to guide me and support me in my spiritual growth.

In 1998, When for the first time I consciously Entered into contact with some telepathic Beings Who Called Themselves the Ascended Masters, even if I did not Understand where and how, I felt a real interest in Them to guide me and support me in my spiritual growth. ...

Just about every sentence in your quoted translation is repeated twice .

Well that was fun to fix.

[Paul]

Posted by Vivek (here)
I looked at the link, it's just what I copied and pasted. I am not a member but it will display for me.

It displays OK for me now too. Must have been a glitch in the cosmic fabric.

Posted by Vivek (here)
Well that was fun to fix.

Thanks - :D

[Vivek]

E-mail from Leo Zagami to Fulford:

Dear Benjamin,

I talked to Daniele a couple of times and I am under the impression there is no intention from the elite to reform the present monetary sistem just like you said and like I told you last year over and over again in Japan. But dear Benjamin im also sure that this person called Neil is a disinfo agent regarding the info he is giving you about Dal Bosco who is definetely not involved to my knowledge in such a scam or any illegal activity.

In any case Im not involved and I wish to stay out of it because me and my associates are busy with much more serious issues at the moment, we are preparing for civil unrest,global chaos and war and we dont believe is possible to save the present civilization with the reform of the monetary sistem or any other reform but we believe in laying the foundations of a new Empire FREE OF THE VATICAN SATAN that we will destroy with the help of our Cosmic Brothers in the end of times coming up soon.

We are dealing for a long time in secret with these beings from other parts of the universe arriving to us through dimensional portals only known to the Secret Chiefs, we are dealing with the ones who are not working with the Jesuits of course the Angelic realm.

You are free to believe this or not dear Benjamin but you should come and visit the reincarnation of Elia the Prophet inside the body of Giorgio Bongiovanni the stigmatized guy who is currentely heading the Cosmic Brotherhood we started in Sicily many years ago with Eugenio Siracusa.

Last year in the mountains of Switzerland some key members of the Swiss illuminati including Daniele Dal Bosco met with the Alien beings near the town of Stein to seal the deal that will destroy the papacy and instal the Kingdom of the Space Gods under the One God I hope we can now introduce you to some more serious topics then the rubbish of this guy called Neil who is a slave of the system a puppet who thinks he can go after people who are protected at the highest level but as I told you earlier I dont want to be involved but if you want I can finaly introduce you to the real illuminati who are getting ready for 2013 when the sistem will finaly crack under the preSsure of the solar storm combined with civil unrest,famine,pestilence and war.

Regards yours,

Leo Lyon Zagami 33o AASR

The Grand Master of the OIU

QED

Source: http://benjaminfulford.com/The%20e-m...operative.html

Very curious e-mail about very curious people by a very peculiar individual.

[Amzer Zo]

I find it puzzling that these "alien forces" only consider signing a deal with shadowy power brokers and not any genuine representative of any people... stinks like "Orion Model" no matter how many densities/dimensions away.

[Vivek]

Now, I've come across this source before, but I don't know if it's credible. If anybody has any insight/evidence to say otherwise I will remove the quote.

A letter from Keith Scott to Ray C. Dam.

For Most Urgent Attention of Dr. Dam




Dear Ray,

Firstly I am hoping you are OK. I know you have been badly mistreated and I worry all the time about you. I have been working for some time trying to head this problem off. I cannot do anything about the ARP-OITC situation as whatever it is, as you know, I know nothing about it. I also hope that the boys have managed to get my communications with Keenan to you




What triggered everything was David Sale. Knowing Keenan was going after OITC, he colluded with Daniele Del Bosco who colluded with Gian Carlo Bruno, the overall plan being that they would steal the Bonds entrusted to Keenan and then blame you. In doing so we believe Sale forged papers with your signature on it and used this in giving Del Bosco the excuse he needed to run with the bonds he was holding for Keenan. Dal Bosco feigned fear to Keenan but it was never fear, it was a well thought out plan between Dal Bosco, Bruno and Sale. At that time they were after only Keenan’s bonds but when they saw Keenan fighting OITC and causing many problems their idea became more grandiose that being OITC as well.




It was Keenan who forwarded some of the information to the Cambodian Police that Sale sent to him relating to the business in ARP-OITC and explained to Keenan how he could nail you through this. Sale also verified and substantiated that information and has been telling the Cambodian Police and newspapers everything he can to bury you. Also Sale did everything possible to make sure Keenan received the information sent information to Dal Bosco, who recruited Bruno, and they managed to find ways to get Keenan all the information necessary to wreak havoc.




I have sent Jorge a letter from Keenan that confirms these facts to me. Sale hates you more than he hates me.

Since around October 2009, Bruno, Del Bosco and Sale have been planning to steal Keenan’s bonds. From July/August OITC also became a target to bring under the World Economic Forum. This is confirmed by recent postings by David Sale on the internet where he repudiates all appointments made by yourself prior to December 21, 2010.




I have sent you Keenan's letter to me. I have been working carefully to get him to back off on the RICO charges he was filing against you. This is not a light matter as it involves people in very high places, It involves the horrific murder of Joe Bendana, it involves the theft of 140 Billion Dollars in Bonds.




Behind it all is that worthless, treacherous sack of ****, David Sale.




I have established a good relationship with Keenan, who after hearing everything realizes you did not know what Sale was doing and that any knowledge you had was after the fact. I will stay on track with Keenan because if I do not, this RICO thing is going to bury you forever. Keenan has agreed to accept that you had no idea what Sale was really doing and that it was Sale, Bruno and Del Bosco that set you up. But I need to prove that you did not know. My working with Keenan has headed off even worse problems than you have now, because if you go down in the US system there is no way to get you out. If we can keep this a strictly local affair as far as you are concerned, we can eventually get you out and Keenan is a decent guy and now has some pity for you and will help me with that. He does not forgive you for allowing Sale to do what he did and then not putting matters right. But he realizes as I do that you were not involved in the scamming by Sale, because you were the real target and would only have known what Sale wanted you to know.




We can nail Sale with your confirmation that you did not sign or issue any Cease and Desist to Neil Keenan. With this we can block all his treachery and lying and bring him to account, but we need to do it before he leaves Thailand as it is the Thai authorities who can arrest and detain him. The authorities have told Keenan that Sale is planning on taking over the OITC and moving his address to Europe thereby working with Bruno, Dal Bosco and others under the World Economic Forum’s umbrella.




I have prepared a letter for you to sign, and this letter merely confirms that you did not have any idea what Sale was planning prior to the theft of the Bonds and that you did not issue any Cease and Desist letter to Keenan, and you did not sign any such letter.




I want to nail Sale for his treachery and for what he has done to you. If I have this letter, it will become the evidence that not only helps us to nail Sale, but it also gets you out of a whollot of problems you do not need now.




I have told Keenan that I will do nothing against you and I will also do whatever I need to do to help you. I need you to sign and have your attorneys witness the accompanying letter. This is the only way Sale can be stopped.




Please keep well. I am working hard to do all I can to help.




Always remember the prophecy.




Love and regards,

Keith

Source:http://abundanthope.net/pages/Whistl..._printer.shtml

Now, I must say, I have EXTREME concerns regarding Keith Scott, and that WILL BE another thread SOON.

[corson]

the rabbit hole on scott, keenan and sale goes very deep. zagami cannot be ruled out either. i have seen his name pop up frequently in regards to missing funds. great job vivek.
regards, corson

[RMorgan]

Posted by Vivek (here)
E-mail from Leo Zagami to Fulford:

Last year in the mountains of Switzerland some key members of the Swiss illuminati including Daniele Dal Bosco met with the Alien beings near the town of Stein to seal the deal that will destroy the papacy and instal the Kingdom of the Space Gods under the One God I hope we can now introduce you to some more serious topics then the rubbish of this guy called Neil who is a slave of the system a puppet who thinks he can go after people who are protected at the highest level but as I told you earlier I dont want to be involved but if you want I can finaly introduce you to the real illuminati who are getting ready for 2013 when the sistem will finaly crack under the preSsure of the solar storm combined with civil unrest,famine,pestilence and war.

Source: http://benjaminfulford.com/The%20e-m...operative.html

Very curious e-mail about very curious people by a very peculiar individual.

Hey mate,

Sorry, but an invisible god under the church has caused humanity such a huge damage, that I don´t feel comfortable with the replacement of the current model of god with any other creepy "space god" model at all!

I know this is not your opinion, It´s Leo Zagami´s words, but I just feel like making this observation.

I wont worship any external concept of god, specially self entitled "Space Gods under the One God".

No way!

We know how things like this end...

Cheers,

Raf.

[Amzer Zo]

From someone who knows of the inner workings about fulford and the dragon societies:

Posted by Siberia9 (here)
They are real, but for me I was very surprised to see them show up the way they have here. I know they are real because one of my best friends was in federal prison for racketeering, he was an enforcer for a certain illegal organization back in the late 1980's. One of his best cell mates when he was in Arizona federal prison was a Chinese gangster from Hong Kong (a White Dragon member) that got arrested in California. He was an excellent martial artist and I talked to him on the phone once or twice as he was training my friend and I was a martial artist as well. He was also a Freemason in San Francisco and that surprised me to no end I must say. About a decade later an Italian gangster I knew from New York City told me they were into something with them and wanted to know if I knew anything about the White Dragons etc.

They are gangsters, and frankly its a little hard for me to see how they are involved in anything other than being gangsters. Of course we all know who runs and funds ALL big gangsters.

Police, gangsters, Freemasons, etc etc are all just bricks in the same pyramid system that is run by some very powerful reclusive and dangerous families. The Idea that they are going to move to the top of the pyramid without it being part of the plan is just goofy to me.

Ive made it no secret here that I am related to some of the Illuminati Bloodline Family's, and I remember being told when I was young that it was part of the plan to have the people hate their govts and see them as criminals so they could change the way things are run once and for all. I dont have all the secrets but that piece of the puzzle is on my table and it fits right next to the one that says China will be the muscle for the New Order after the US has collapsed.

I will go out on a limb and guess that we will find the usual suspects step up to back these clowns before its over. Like the Rothchild bankers and the Chinese Govt etc.,,, we will see.

Posted by Siberia9 (here)
Perhaps I meant white telletubies? Cause if you cant google it they must not be real LOL. If you cant see that guys in bowler hats with swords that refer to the head guy as "boss" and make threats to deliver armed martial artist to commit violence, are gangsters then I wont argue the point with you. Both the white and Black Dragon Society's are Gangsters, they know that better than I do and yet they use BOTH of those names. You guys around here know quantum physics and history etc, I know gangsters. I have the scar's and tattoo's to prove it, I also have the mugs shots and NO criminal record to go with it, there is only one kind of person that knows how to achieve that combination. So I am telling you, these guys ARE GANGSTERS.

And that is the point, are gangsters going to take over world because they got their loot jacked? Yall believe what you like. But the only way I will take this seriously is when the Chinese govt and someone breaks away from the banking family's and backs them, then you will know its important. I wouldn't waste any energy on this until then. Then we will have the usual red team blue team crap.

Also, Leo Zagami publicly says he is behind this, then told me that they are backed by the Illuminati and not to be trusted, for whatever that is worth. Also they are in cahoots with Alexander Romanov, another Illuminati member, and Bloodline as well. The Old Bloodlines and myself want to undo the banking elites hold on the world before they kill and enslave us all. I on the other hand do not support the Bavarian Illuminati, as I dont care for their communist style of crapola. Climbing out of the fire only to find yourself in the pan is the wrong move to make, period.

If you want my advice, dont give your energy to this clown show and take a wait and see attitude on it. Thats all I'm gonna say on this.

[justoneman]

I believe Leo Zagami is a good person. Actually, a very very good hearted person ... one of the best people you could ever know. Yet I believe Leo is like me in that when he uses certain drugs (my guess is that he has had periods in his life where he used marijuana heavily) - that he is able to open his field such that he experiences "communion" with non earthly EDs. One of the forms validation takes place is through the experience of hyper synchronicity and even where you communicate with actual voices in the head (can be one and can also be more than one). The reason I believe Leo has had these experiences is based on
a.) my own personal experience (being of these bloodlines) with off and on heavy, long term marijuana usage that resulted in eventual psychosis (over a dozen times in my life)
b.) studies that in a small percentage (something like 5%) who start using marijuana in their teenage years and then become long term marijuana users can go psychotic.
c.) that when entering the stage where psychosis comes on, one can experience a massive rise in psi abilities
d.) that my last (and hopefully final) experiment with this lasted a whole year before the psychosis became dangerous to myself (I was never a danger to others)
e.) this video -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z7O7UZxipM

BUT! Before you watch the video, I highly recommend a review of the Camelot Interview with Leo Zagami -

http://projectcamelotportal.com/inde...ame&Itemid=227

I particularly recommend reading the transcripts -
http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/le...ript_1_en.html
http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/le...ript_2_en.html
http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/le...ript_3_en.html

Within this interview Leo mentions and I quote -
"The Vatican library and we have a lot of ancient artifacts, ancient books, very rare texts that could revolutionize the thought of mankind but, as I said, because we will have to go to the next stage of existence in one way or another, the Vatican wants to adapt. So how they adapt? They adapt with Corrado Balducci and the whole alien revolution coming into the Vatican! It’s incredible. One man and couple of UFOs and everybody’s happy.

Because the next step of brainwashing is to have you believe that Jesus is some kind of Prince of Sirius that comes on this planet as a high priest and is himself an alien being or some kind of alien high priest from Sirius. Sirius is very important. We now have to jump to Sirius. Because Sirius is serious in every way. The word says it. It’s, in the universal apparatus, the Eye of God. You know, you have a bunch of sheep which are the stars…

KC: OK. So …

LZ: No, no, watch – shepherd. Then you have a dog. Now, the dog star is Sirius – is the dog, there are a lot of stars there, they are the sheep and you have a shepherd and you have a shepherd’s dog. So this is how it works in the universe. So we should go back to reacquire in modern times the concept of analogies, of not logic, but analogies. Why? Because logic is actually created by mankind. It was created by mankind at the time of ancient Greece and then filtered through our civilization through to us. But in ancient times analogic was equally as important. So by rediscovering the analogic method, the parallels between the fact that everything in the universe works as a mirror, as a reflection, a reflection of the one big bang, the first [makes gesture of explosion outward]… and then everything else is a reflection. So there is a constant loop of this reflection in many different forms, infinite loop that goes through the universe and we find [lifts coffee cup] in this cup, we find in this [unclear: regarded parade]"

Now back to the video I mentioned above - in this video, I see a person in the midst of a full blown psychosis. He states at the beginning that he was arrested for "saying that the Italian government is a government of criminals..." but it looks to me, as he is having visitors and someone is able to have a cell phone for videoing (or perhaps a hand held cam corder) that this is probably not a jail but a psychiatric facility (note: the wire mesh)... but the real clues are in the video - I don't need to pull out quotes, the video is just 7 or so minutes ... watch.

He is completely in the belief he is of the Jesus bloodline, the Sphinx - the Lyon family, etc. He all but says he is Jesus returned.

This is a bloodline member who has (through some method and I already stated my theory as to how he achieved this state) entered completely into his messianic complex - full blown - in fact, the Jesus messiah.

again, here's the video link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z7O7UZxipM

Now, again, I have had these same types of experiences I just never went public nor was in any position in my life to be in the public eye. But these states can be achieved. when you are in this state, amazing psi events occur. Others see these events to some extent but no one can enter the mind of the psychotic which is filled with one or more voices and your own awareness watching the outer reality mimick through intense, hyper synchronicity, the conversation going on within your own mind.

It is my conclusion that based on ones DNA / bloodline, some of us are more susceptible to these states. That some of us can have these states amplified via usage of visionary plants and for me and many others, high grade significantly high dosage, constant usage of marijuana can do the trick. The trick being to alter one's state that the archontic forces at their highest levels (the 7 archons, creations of the demiurge) can be in direct contact with that level. This appears above the level of beings whether they are draconian, reptilian or their grey bio-robotic minions. At this level, the actual shared reality can be visibly seen to adjust to fit the communication of this top tier (the matrix).

My point in all this is that the illuminati I have met have always been major alcoholics and/or users of marijuana and/or coke addicts and/or heroin addicts and/or meth addicts and/or prescription drug users. Perhaps there are those who can work with the archontic forces (or be influenced by these same forces) that do not use any drugs nor alcohol - I have yet to meet a single one.

And these are the folks running the planet. Lovely

Now back to Leo - If I were fortunate to know Leo, we would be good friends. I am totally benevolent though when younger I was not so though I never wanted to harm others... I was just able to lie and cheat and steal with my own demented justification. I had always had both a messiah complex and a dark side aspect. The messiah complex won in the late 1990s and so ever since I investigated who/what I may be in the grand scheme of things. Fortunately I survived my last experiment and no longer use any drugs nor alcohol except I drink coffee but that's it. Fortunately I was able to find Avalon and then Houman's thread and based on the 15 years of research and key elements of Houman's thread, I was able to conclude I was simply under the influence of the archontic forces who had run the savior routine on me since a very young age (conscious recall starts at age 5 - I am 54 now).

Many of these guys at these higher levels are living dual lives... they live what appears to be normal lives to most normal folks yet inside they have their secret life which is playing a part in some grand spiritual warfare - and folks, they believe it. And I believe they make it real through the powers to create one's reality, the same powers we all possess. In fact, that's how I left the war - I created my resignation and in fact, I created the idea that all these forces are simply made up by the collective and I no longer am supplying energy to that part of this grand illusion.

Now it doesn't mean Leo and Ben Fulford and Drake and David Wilcock may not be right and that its a massive war of good versus evil and ETs and/or EDs may be both good and evil and that some good ETs and/or EDs may be helping us now... but I believe they possess this same struggle with the messianic game the archons are famous for. I hope they use some serious discernment and like Wilcock - don't use drugs at all (hope David doesn't drink either) - folks like us can't do it without allowing in these dark energies and mis-interpreting the messages

Sorry for the long drawn out post - Leo is a good guy, he has chosen the light side in the fight... now I hope he chooses (like I have) to leave the fight. If enough of us do - 2012 and beyond can be smooth. justone

[Vivek]

Article re-posted from: http://www.scribd.com/infoutil/d/48951111-Egregora

Before starting, the author would like to express thanks to Wr. Giovanni Lombardo for hisassistance in defining and bringing this article to the readers.

If you have never heard of the term “egregore”, join the crowd. Many people have never heardthe word, and until recently, that crowd INCLUDED the author. A year ago, while on TheLodgeroom US, a fervent antimasonic… person, named Thomas “Skip” Sampson, tossed out anunsupported and off topic slander to the effect that we masons should go back to working onevoking our egregore in lodge.

At the time, the author was stunned, never before having heard the word. A quick internetsearch revealed nothing, and not having any information on the subject, a research project wasborn, and thence this paper.

At the time, very little was available, though that has changed recently. One of the problems isthat egregore is spelled two different ways, with a “E” at the end, and without. This made isdifficult at first to find information.

So, what is an egregore, and how does it relate to freemasonry?

Let start with a simple explanation of what an egregore is, or is reputed to be, and then moveon from there. On this subject, there are various opinions, especially among “occultists” whoseem to be the primary authors on the nature of the egregore. Following are the four primaryoccultist definitions:

An energized astral form produced consciously or unconsciously by human agency. Inparticular, (a) a strongly characterized form, usually an archetypal image, produced by theimaginative and emotional energies of a religious or magical group collectively, or (b) an astralshape of any kind, deliberately formulated by a magician to carry a specific force.[1]

…from a Greek word meaning “watcher.” A thought-form created by will and visualization. Agroup egregore is the distinctive energy of a specific group of magicians who are workingtogether, creating and building the same thought-form or energy-form.[2]

Any symbolic pattern that has served as a focus for human emotion and energy will build up anegregore of its own over time, and the more energy that is put into such a pattern, the morepotent the egregore that will form around it. The gods and goddesses of every religion, pastand present, are at the centers of vast egregore charged with specific kinds of power. Thispower is defined by, and contacted through, the traditional symbolism of the deity in question.[3]

An egregore is an angel, sometimes called watcher; in Hebrew the word is ir, and the conceptappears in The Book of Enoch.... Thus, Irim, the city of the Nephilim is again linked with theBook of Enoch, since the Nephilim, according to that Book, were the sons of the Irim (theegregores.)....Although the Irim, the egregores, are angels on both sides of the camp - fallenangels as well as faithful ones.[4]

René Guénon, a prolific writer on Masonic philosophy offers the following:

First of all, we must point out that we have never used the word ‘egregore’ to designate whatcould properly be called a ‘collective entity’; the reason for this is that the term is whollyuntraditional and only represents one of the fantasies of modern occultist language.

The first person to use it (egregore) this way was Eliphas Levy, and if our memory is exact, itwas he who, to justify this meaning gave it the improbable Latin etymology, deriving it fromgrex, ‘flock’, whereas the word is purely Greek and has never signified anything more thanwatcher.[5]

It appears therefore that, according to Guénon that an egregore is a manifestation of psychicenergy, as opposed to a spiritual force as the occultists would define it. Now that the authorhas completely confused you, let us proceed to dissect what we have as “definitions” to see ifwe can come to an understanding of the egregore, and its “place” in freemasonry.

Of the definitions offered, that of Guénon seems to be the one that actually relates tomasonry, while the others relate to religious/occult faith. The egregore is a psychic entity,existing between the material and the spiritual, in contact with both. It is the creation of thepsychic will of the members of a group, and exists as a connection to the divine.

As we work rituals, the focused mental energy creates and invokes the egregore to fulfill theneed of the group. An egregore is not a magical creature, it is not self aware, and is not a Djin,to carry out wishes. The egregore serves as a conduit, a nexus, to connect the group thatcreated/invoked it to the spiritual.

Some egregores are temporary, while some, like the egregore of a lodge, a church, or acountry, are the result of the continuous will that creates them, and this will also sustainsthem. The egregore of freemasonry has existed for centuries, and is the result of the focusedwill to connect with the spiritual from millions of men.

An egregore is the psychic “entity”. All members of a group, whether it is a club, your family,your lodge, a faith, a political party, a country, or even a single person, are united with theegregore of that group through a psychic connection. As a result, and given the nature ofsociety, we are often included in the sphere of several egregores at once.

The strength and ability of the egregore to aid and assist the members of the group grows overtime and through numbers, by drawing support from the members constituting it and throughtheir repeated actions maintain its power. The egregore, in turn, invokes the immaterial andraises us from the material, connecting us to the subtle worlds.

Where the intent is positive and spiritual, the effect of the egregore consists in conveyingspirituality to the members as in the initiatic process of the lodge. The intent is to divest thecandidate of the profane and connect him to the spiritual, and for most masons, that effect isfelt and received most profoundly. To the contrary, in the case of other groups, especially thecounter-initiatic ones – which adopt rites and symbols to attain profane or negative goals – theegregore can be quite destructive to the lives and spirits of those members.[6]

Each individual who is involved in a group is influenced by these egregores. For those thatreach for a spiritual connection, the egregore assists and facilitates that connection. Thisprocess is unconscious, but is intensified through the initiatic process, which is designed toopen the mind to the spiritual through the egregore.

A symbolic representation of this may be had in the examination of the Star of David, anemblem of the divine. The top triangle points the heavens, and to the spirit. The bottomtriangle points down, to the material and profane. United, they form a new entity, the six-pointed star that represents the unity of the two, from material to the spirit, connection to thedivine.

An example of this we are familiar with in Freemasonry is the Compasses and Square. Thecompass represents the male, the spiritual energy, while the square represents the material.The compasses enclose and define the spiritual, as in the point within a circle, while thesquare defines the mortal, the material world. United, these two symbols, like the triangles,which form the Star of David, an emblem the represents the divine, so, too, does the squareand compasses united, represent the divine, as is shown by the letter G in the middle.

So, the nature of the egregore has been known since time immemorial, as shown above. Itsfunction is that of a guide, and intercessory, to conduct the group members to the spirit andconnect them with it. Some groups are connected more powerfully from the profane andmortal side to the spiritual than others, some less so, but to each group according to its intent.As with all things, it is the intent that matters, not the form.

Guénon goes on to state, in reference to the egregore’s influence:

Man has, however, to point out that the Egregore “can never transcend the individual domainsince, in the final analysis, it is only a resultant of the component individualities, nor,consequently, can it go beyond the psychic order; now all that is, only psychic can have noeffective and direct relationship with initiation since this latter consists essentially in thetransmission of a spiritual influence meant to produce effects of a similar spiritual order, thustranscendent with respect to the individuality, whence one obviously must conclude thatwhatever is able to render effective the initially virtual action of this influence, must itselfnecessarily have a supra-individual and thus, if one may put it so, a supra-collectivecharacter.”[7]

In a lodge of freemasons, the egregore is strengthened by time and experience, and the willand intention of good men. The strength of the egregore is patent in the effect the ritual hason the candidate, and effect that cannot be accounted for simply in the execution of the ritualitself.

We have all experienced the thrill, the exhilaration of the initiation, and the emotional highthat carries us for days afterward as the flame is kindled in our breast. This is the spirit theegregore connects us with that fills us and carries us. It is this spirit that breathes in us,inspires us with brotherly love, relief, truth and charity.

The spirit is from the divine. The egregore is the psychic link between the mortal to the spirit.The mason is inspired by the breath of the spirit.

And thus: freemasonry.

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Now, Dal Bosco on thought forms:

In many articles and Q & A I mentioned the thought-forms. Now I would like to explore some aspects of the concept of thought-form.
Thought-form is the name given to the mass of energy that contains within it a certain idea or thought. The thought-forms are pure ethereal. The physical reality is constituted so thought-forms, but these thought-forms have their origin in the etheric level. The etheric thought-form is then manifested in a certain way in the physical reality, through a mass of quarks which are joined together.

A thought-form can be a physical level only quarks up to the space-time itself. God created it with the mind the thought-form of etheric space-time to manifest physically.
The shape of these masses of energy can vary greatly. From a simple dot, to forms of various types and sizes. A thought-form aether can also take human form, or other monstrous: these features, are decided by the person who creates such a thought-form.
For example, I draw a monster, and instantly create the etheric level. If I have a lot of power or many people focus on it then this monster has more strength in the etheric. Obviously I can also create beings that help the good people at the etheric and who might have specific functions.
Entities and egregora are examples of thought-forms ethereal.

The entities are thought-forms that have their own individuality and personality. The egregora instead are thought-forms that do not have their own individuality and personality.

How do I create thought-forms? They are created with just the thought. And humans are the only beings with thoughts on the physical level, and therefore likely to create thought-forms with the ethereal mind.

When I think of a car that I like, for example, instantly create a thought form in etheric form that has its own car that I like. The higher the energy that is given to this thought-form, the greater the likelihood that such thought-form is manifest in the physical.

Create an entity is very simple: you simply want. And anyone can do it. The power of such entity acquires depends on the number of people who focus on this entity and the energy that these people have. There are entities created out of nothing, or even millennia before they were recalled, or worshiped by many people and for a long time and who have acquired their own identity in the etheric level. But thoughts are simple, it can vanish when you cancel the thought of the existence of that entity.

To create an entity is as simple as a large number of people are focusing on the thought or idea that is the basis of such thought-form. For example, the standard of Christian prayers or mantras are of Eastern egregora etheric level. Egregora These are then used by those who have control over such egregora to try to express a certain kind of reality. The directing of such egregora occurs mostly through magical rites, but these are purely symbolic and ritual and actually not be useful.

Just the mere thought to use a certain amount of energy as it can be a egregora for a certain purpose. At the end is a matter of conscience: dell'egregora anyone can use the energy of prayer "Our Father", for example, for personal purposes, but such use of energy from my point of view is a manipulation of reality, as it uses no energy and their own personal ends.

While controlling the energy of a egregora is rather simple and affordable for all, the control entity, that is a thought-form that has taken its own personality on the etheric plane is not so simple. These entities tend to be independent from the people who live on the physical plane, and then to use their energy is needed ingraziarsele somehow.
Since these entities are simply clusters of energy without self-awareness (the awareness does not exist in the etheric level, but only at low level) are also quite stupid, and can be operated like any other doll.

And this is what you do when you call certain magical rites through entities and ask them a favor. In exchange for these entities can usually ask for something that gives them energy and that can allow them to continue to exist.

One of those ways is the human or animal sacrifice, as when an animal or a human die then the etheric and subtle bodies dissolve. If a person is sufficiently eradicated from Earth (one person disconnects from the Earth, especially in situations of intense fear), then the entity can penetrate the etheric body of such person and take possession of it. The moment the person is killed, the entity sucks his etheric body, and then that entity becomes even stronger. Only then the amount of energy given to her in return is willing to do favors for people who have called and that they offered such a gift.

Etheric entity can not change the physical reality itself. It can only do so if he can penetrate the etheric body of a person or persons. Only then "owns" these people and somehow manages to influence them in their choices. No entity can ever penetrate a person if that person is strongly rooted to Mother Earth (being grounded means that the etheric body is closely related to the etheric body of Mother Earth).

Many people, especially below the 3000 level, are strongly disconnected from the Earth. For this newspaper the intent to take root with the Earth is strongly recommended, because it can avoid unpleasant situations, often due to karma accumulated by their ancestors.

Source: http://translate.google.com/translat...26prmd%3Dimvns

[Vivek]

Dal Bosco on Etheric Entities and Reptilians:

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The etheric astral entities are the only ones that have the ability to create technologies, being the only entities sufficiently complete to create and intelligent technologies. They are also able to clone etheric beings. Those beings who are called high and greenish "reptilians" are nothing but clones created by etheric etheric human entities. These reptilians were created by mixing the genetic etheric etheric bodies of human and etheric bodies of lizards (crocodiles).

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Entities, as the example of Sananda, from size to size can ascend to the etheric level. This type of ascension purely etheric is possible only by stealing energy of others, since the entity does not have the divine essence (the body of light) that allows them to ascend through the use of the will. Sananda, for example, has managed to rise so much (1725 size) in a relatively short time (2000 years) due to the reverence that people had in the last 2000 years for Christ. Thus he was able to exploit this energy veneration for possession of mental etheric bodies of individuals who worshiped the Christ.

More here: www.ascensione.com

Google that site and click on "translate this page". Then, navigate to "Materials of Study" and then to "Levels".

[Vivek]

Dal Bosco on De-Manipulation (note: the following information was channeled by Daniele Dal Bosco, which, in my opinion, makes it even more interesting considering it's content):

We start immediately with the first issue of our series and do not say that we told you so: there will be no real change in 2012. And it is good to remember, the reverse is not convinced of anything else that will create illusions so great to have a boomerang effect as a major crisis at the time of determining the facts, but also hinder your personal ascension.

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We have chosen to devote an entire article to the thought-form "as a crucial year 2012, and important turning point" because the effects of such thought-form are incredibly negative about anyone who incorporates in itself.

First, we emphasize that it is a thought-form (etheric) and not a thought of (physical). This concept has meaning only and exclusively influence on the etheric planes: the physical plane there is no such concept as currently thought, and never will exist. The reason is that this concept was not created by humans but by physical etheric entities, which are channeled by the idea of 2012 as a pivotal year for global change. And a thought-form entities created by ethereal (ethereal beings that have no physical body or because they are dead or on the physical plane because they never had a physical body) can not be transmitted as thinking and therefore become a physical reality, because it does not there is an associated physical body that could entrench such thought-form on the physical plane.

Many will be surprised to know that information relating to 2012 has been created not by human etheric entities, but by reptilian entities ethereal. They are the ones that have begun to disseminate this idea in 2012 in order to delay, at the etheric level, the ascension of many people as eager to keep under their control many human entities and etheric etheric bodies of individuals alive today.

Why, you ask, the importance of the belief that time can hinder the development of people? Well, this is a point that deserves to be explained clearly.

A belief, whatever the creative source of such information, has the effect of "fog" our real consciousness (knowledge of physical and etheric) derived from our experience of life, and our real consciousness (spiritual knowledge) embedded in our process spiritual growth. These are in fact puts them second in the brain when creating illusions or fears: while consciousness and awareness in themselves are devoid of emotion as pure information assimilated beliefs (fears or delusions) have a strong emotional charge attached to them that allows the brain to be objective in assessing the reality that the body is emotionally involved and without the necessary detachment to objectively evaluate information in light of their real consciousness and awareness.

The belief in the thought-form "as a crucial year 2012, an important turning point and" creates an illusion in our etheric bodies, which is used to pick us up from the reptilian energy through special ethereal microchip inserted in all who have in them the thought-form . The fact reptilians have technologies that allow them to locate in the etheric bodies of persons whether or not they have thought-forms created by the reptilians themselves, as these thought-forms tend to have a grayish color distinguishable from human thought-forms, which can be of all colors (including gray).

If identifying in a human form that thought-reptilian, they put a microchip in the etheric etheric brain of the person concerned to a large unit that transmits (via ethereal attachments that are automatically created on the etheric planes whenever you create a dependency of thought, or a fear or illusion, ie karma) accumulated throughout the emotional power to believe in this thought-form reptilian. The reptilians then use all the stored energy to manipulate the people themselves through these etheric attachments that have surfaced, although manipulations that affect ethereal mentally and emotionally (ricordiano mind and emotion that are born in the etheric bodies), even the individual.

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Scientific progress happened in the last century, just as with any physical manifestation, has an origin in the underlying esoteric exoteric ones have arisen on our physical plane.

It is merely a reflection of increasing manipulation of humanity by the reptilians. The reptilians since shortly after their creation (about 3 million years ago) began to manipulate human beings. But that their manipulation peaked in the twentieth century, especially in the second half of the twentieth century and early twenty-first. Although these advances are the physical appearance of the undoubtedly positive, in the broader context of the fact they are not at all. Or rather, they are what allow the karmic release of negative things, but in itself is negative situations from the standpoint of etheric and spiritual as well.

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It was to appease the revolutionary confusion, therefore, that the reptilians in the astral spread the belief of "reality perfectly measurable by science." Already in the two centuries preceding the thought-form had developed in mankind, but became global only in the late 60s of last century: global and unconscious. This spread was through the use of media and schools (These areas on the astral plane are strongly controlled by the reptilians) and a consequent use of microchips essential for the removal of energy, as explained in ' art.96 .

These levies are then used by reptilian energy at will to manipulate human beings and sometimes so strong as to have an impact on the physical plane. And 'this is what has happened and is happening with regard to the confidence that humans also show the physical plane in science.

The belief that reality is perfectly measurable by science brings as a consequence the belief that knowledge of science can enable modification of the physical reality itself. Now, it is clear that the physical plane what mostly happens, has, however, that the origin of this scientific development comes from the manipulation explained above: after the etheric planes from the twentieth century has greatly increased on the control of the reptilian 'humanity (just because of the belief discussed in this article), there was a strong effect on the physical plane of this belief that led to a greater dependence of human beings to science, and to the inventions of science in general.

The strong scientific progress occurred in the last century it is due, first of all, this strong increase in dependency unconscious of humanity towards technology, the machine (physical repercussions of addiction from etheric "machines" and the reptilian reptilians themselves , themselves creatures of human technology of the etheric planes) and a consequent greater study and development of the technologies themselves (and not, as you might think, to a greater awareness and understanding of modern man).

This event is a physical impact, as mentioned, and not a perfect result of what happened on the astral plane.

As already explained, in fact, thought-forms created by the reptilians can not by itself rooted in the physical as the reptilians have no real physical form, but may still have an indirect influence on people karmically connected to the same reptilian plans essential.

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There is a lot more (over 200 articles in total), and I will post them as I dig through them.

[Vivek]

Post deleted.

I have gone through the site, and with the help of google translate, found out what I needed to know.

Guys, something isn't right - Dani doesn't seem to be on the run to me, as a matter of fact, his online presence (currently) reflects that he could give two ****s about what's going on right now with the bonds and the lawsuit.

More later.