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    Ahh yes I am somewhat familiar with energetic sphenoid movement actually. I used to live near a practitioner. She has a website, ehealing.us or something... maybe you'd find what she's doing interesting.

    Is this essentially what you're doing?
    Interesting work (I quickly checked it out).
    I am all self taught...ie. I just do what works to release tension/pain and don't care how I am doing it.

    I did, 17 years ago take a 3 weekend class to learn cs basics.

    The rest is me (now).

    I'm not using a methodology...that would be too restrictive (for what I do)....as I use physical release to help manifest emotional pockets of held pain syndromes (a different purpose than most practioners...who don't usually do clearings, with their practices, in order to become enlightened).

    They want physical results...and I don't care about physical results....just releasing the mechanism holding the pain in place...ie the emotional triggers.

    As once you realize that the symptoms keep returning, no matter how many times you get it healed, you wake up to the fact you are doing it to yourself (in order to wake yourself from your dream like sleep).

    does that help?

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    Hmmm... in some ways it has made me more confused haha.

    I do have a couple of emotional issues, since i was two years old. No particular event or trauma, I believe it's past life crap but have no memories except the ones i remember having when I was 4-8 years old. I can't seem to be able to embrace negative experience, and struggle to permanently change belief systems - I can make temporary changes but stuff just keeps coming back. It's been that way my whole life.

    Does this help with that? I definitely want help to clear this stuff away once and for all. Maybe if anyone has other suggestions too.... i've tried hypnotherapy but can't afford to see a hypnotherapist at the moment.

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    Hmmm... in some ways it has made me more confused haha.

    I do have a couple of emotional issues, since i was two years old. No particular event or trauma, I believe it's past life crap but have no memories except the ones i remember having when I was 4-8 years old. I can't seem to be able to embrace negative experience, and struggle to permanently change belief systems - I can make temporary changes but stuff just keeps coming back. It's been that way my whole life.

    Does this help with that? I definitely want help to clear this stuff away once and for all. Maybe if anyone has other suggestions too.... i've tried hypnotherapy but can't afford to see a hypnotherapist at the moment.
    Yes, we all think we know what pain indicates....something out of place, broken, needing healing and so on.

    But, when you keep getting sick, you dig down deeper (as I have), not really from choice, more from survival.

    Just saying, underneath the pain you are experiencing from your accident, is karma.

    karma is, to me anyway, about healing our past, seeing our judgements and clearing (letting go, releasing emotional trauma).

    It is an evolving process.

    So it isn't 'just pain' or 'an injury'. That is the western mentality about health. Not really mine (any longer).


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    No way to explain this simpler.
    Just saying, the more time I spent learning cranial sacral therapy, the more in tune with myself I became.

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    stand in front of the mirror , draw 3 imaginary lines on face, 1 down middle of nose (vertical),1 across eyes (horizontal) 1 across mouth, slight smile, if the mouth is up on one side,look at height of ears,you will find that ear on same side as mouth rise is higher than the other side,if you have ringing in the ears this one is the loudest, if this is the case, you have a mouth full of metal,

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    Hmmm... in some ways it has made me more confused haha.

    I do have a couple of emotional issues, since i was two years old. No particular event or trauma, I believe it's past life crap but have no memories except the ones i remember having when I was 4-8 years old. I can't seem to be able to embrace negative experience, and struggle to permanently change belief systems - I can make temporary changes but stuff just keeps coming back. It's been that way my whole life.

    Does this help with that? I definitely want help to clear this stuff away once and for all. Maybe if anyone has other suggestions too.... i've tried hypnotherapy but can't afford to see a hypnotherapist at the moment.
    Yes, we all think we know what pain indicates....something out of place, broken, needing healing and so on.

    But, when you keep getting sick, you dig down deeper (as I have), not really from choice, more from survival.

    Just saying, underneath the pain you are experiencing from your accident, is karma.

    karma is, to me anyway, about healing our past, seeing our judgements and clearing (letting go, releasing emotional trauma).

    It is an evolving process.

    So it isn't 'just pain' or 'an injury'. That is the western mentality about health. Not really mine (any longer).


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    No way to explain this simpler.
    Just saying, the more time I spent learning cranial sacral therapy, the more in tune with myself I became.

    Right! I agree. A huge part of my emotional development has been about "undoing" what I feel was done to me when I was extremely young. It's part of what convinces me that this is "my last life" in this world the way it is. In human history, did so many humans really spend their whole lives undoing trauamas? Only in the modern age are we so inundated with so many layers of programming..with so many substances that lower our consciousness and awareness. Anyway, that's really interesting. I suppose i need to give cranial sacral more credit, but I often focus on the physical because it's the most tangible. Thanks for your contribution

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    I will say my version of cranial sacral has little to do with the classes I took.

    I find, in general, the only way to learn a new skill set, like a healing technique, is to take as many classes in it (or participate in some way with the information, ...read about it, interview individuals who do it...etc.) as I feel like, try it out (until mastered...or stops working or doesn't work well enough to be useful...), then let it go.

    In time, it comes back, from a more real place (from within).

    At least that is how it works (for me).

    So, to stand corrected (or be even more accurate in my assessment of what I am doing, with my nose...and my entire being-ness), the version of cranial I use has little to do with the strategy imposed on me by the person who taught me to use it. I kept what worked, disgarded the rest (though I keep checking back,...in my memory....when I need something new....as that is where I store my 'information).

    Hope that is helpful...
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    Quote Posted by meat suit (here)
    thats interesting stuff Kabaraz,
    I have used cranial osteopathy years ago to fix a lot of stuff, this sounds similar.
    did your teeth re-align too?
    what does the device look like? please pm me if you dont want to post it here.

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    From NCR session 2 by Dr. Hillary Lampers.

    More cheekbone prominence, palate moved forward some more, upper and low teeth meet now, and I unwinded enough and gained an inch in height.



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    Wanted to know if anyone had excerpts from Healing with Voltage they wouldn't mind sharing? Specifically about "bowling ball syndrome." I can't afford the book, but people are constantly emailing me that they discovered NCR/endonasal therapy through that book and I'd like to find out what this book is on about.

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    hi Kabaraz -- there is some interesting info/speculation on Duncan O'Finioan's blog re those w/'alters' installed [via cruel MK Ultra methods] having completely assymetrical faces

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    I've seen that actually, there's definitely something to it. It isn't the facial symmetry that he's referring to but the asymmetry of expression between the two sides of the face... mainly in the eyes. I know that in mind control victims, their left eye tends to squint on a constant basis. Simon Cowell is one good example of this.

    The CIA also according to Fritz Springmeier developed a technique to give someone a concussion in the proper area which can create the correct dissociation needed to program the personalities.

    What's REALLY interesting is that this technique - neurocranial restructuring or whatever you want to call it - has been known to trigger a switch in mind control victims. I had a doctor who treated me that told me a story about a 50 year old woman who came in to see her for NCR. When the balloon was inflated, the woman immediately became a 5 or 6 year old girl, crouching in the corner, crying, scared and talking in a childlike high-pitched tone. Her husband took her away and convinced my doc that it was just some old PTSD and nothing to worry about. She never came back for further treatment, but when my doctor saw her 3 years later she had completely changed, and was suddenly extremely beautiful with no wrinkles and no facial asymmetry. Her posture and everything had improved.

    My doctor had no knowledge of mind control, and I didn't bother to impart upon her this information.

    To sum up, if you ever want to find out if someone is under mind control... stick a balloon up their nose and squeeze. LOL

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    Wanted to know if anyone had excerpts from Healing with Voltage they wouldn't mind sharing? Specifically about "bowling ball syndrome."
    If you are referring to Jerry Tennant's "Healing is Voltage", you might find his videos on Youtube informative as well.

    Last week, I put together an 87 minute Youtube playlist of his best lecture on this subject, at Dr. Jerry Tennant "An Understanding of How the Body Works". Give that a try.

    I just got the book, and haven't read it yet. Tennant seens to know his stuff; I'm impressed.
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    Thanks for posting, interesting stuff. Weston Price (whom you mentioned earlier) is generally spot on the money in my experience. I have also had nothing but success with osteopathy for myself and children. You may find this exchange from this post interesting in light of facial symmetry, as it also has bearing.

    Quote music:
    Thanks ulli, it is ALL about the (re)unification of the poles. Developing linkages in the corpus collosom so that left and right hemispheres of the brain are united is essential. There are some good techniques for those of us who can't dance Imagining the letters of the alphabet rising in one hemisphere and setting in the other, then vice versa is good. Then visualise numbers doing likewise, then the alphabet and numbers backwards, and then the rising and setting of the moon and the sun. As we become more aware, we notice less assymetry in the face, especially the eyes. Wildly different left and right eyes are a sign of internal disconnection, and one eye will show our true inner nature, while the other shows the mask by which we attempt to navigate through the world with minimal pain. Extreme differences in eyes are evidence of personality destruction and reconstruction, think of Manson and the James Holmes. Informed readers may also wish to look at images of Inelia Benz with this in mind.

    Hemispherical union is merely a first step though. Our goal is to unite the masculine and the feminine within our hearts. Union is truth and Love. Try taking masculine energy through the crown, and feminine energy through the root. Combine these within the heart. The lower chakras are analogues of the 3 physical dimensions, the throat is the gateway to higher dimensionality, and the other two higher chakras are analogues of "as above". The heart is the place where the lower and higher dimensions meet within the body, this is where union takes place. and that is without even getting into the high heart, nasal or any of the transpersonal chakras! Chakras are best worked in tandem, look for colours that are opposites on the colour wheel - these are the power pairs e.g. sacral and throat (orange and blue). Sacral and throat are probably the two most important chakras in the "ascension" process, for without proper functionality of these two, we can only fool ourselves with ersatz (ego-based) awareness. Another way of saying this is that without these two chakras working we can not truley connect with higher consciousness. That is why these are the two chakras that are most under attack in todays world. Well, the pineal is equally under attack mainly through fluoridation, but the sex/psychology/magic/unconsciousness/fear foundation of the sacral chakra is the prime target.
    Quote Tarka the Duck: Oooo er...uncomfortable flashback to the 16th century when any kind of skin blemish or physical deformity was said to have been the devil's mark and sufficient evidence to put someone on trial as a witch...

    We all have assymetical faces don't we? Some more than others - never heard about this outer asymmetry being "corrected" through inner work! Some (not all of course) of those held up to be an example of great classical beauty (models, actresses) often have very symmetrical faces
    Quote Haha, I can see how you might see that. Yes, our faces are assymetrical, but I probably didn't make it clear that I was really talking about the eyes especially. We habitually relate to each other "mask" eye to "mask" eye, and we feel uncomfortable when we are "true" eye to "true" eye. This is natural, and to be expected with physical existence. When we become aware we can relate in truth and know that truth is our nature. This changes the way we view our environment, and so the mask we show changes, becomes more aligned with our inner truth. The subtleties of the human eye are amazing. Wildly different eyes are so not primarily by their physical difference, but by the differences in the divine spark within. In mind-controlled people the distance is so great that the connectivity between mask and truth is weak or severed.

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    Wanted to know if anyone had excerpts from Healing with Voltage they wouldn't mind sharing? Specifically about "bowling ball syndrome."
    If you are referring to Jerry Tennant's "Healing is Voltage", you might find his videos on Youtube informative as well.

    Last week, I put together an 87 minute Youtube playlist of his best lecture on this subject, at Dr. Jerry Tennant "An Understanding of How the Body Works". Give that a try.

    I just got the book, and haven't read it yet. Tennant seens to know his stuff; I'm impressed.
    This is absolutely fascinating. He is temporarily adjusting and modulating the sphenoid with electricity! (ouch, $2000 device) I had no idea that was possible, and it seems he doesn't know you can adjust the sphenoid by physically nudging it? If he writes about that in his book, let me know.

    The other amazing thing he observed is that the voltage is low in areas of chronic pain and inflammation. He uses the device to restore electrons and electricity to that area of the body. Funny enough this is exactly why Earthing/grounding works...

    It's like he's doing the exact same things I've discovered to be so powerful... except in a more minor, isolating, temporary way through a technology rather than something a bit more holistic and organic (earthing/grounding and physically adjusting the sphenoid).

    But he clearly has observed the positive effects and knows about the pumping of cerebrospinal fluid, he has taken a whole different modality to treat the same conditions. Fascinating...

    The guy needs the hair regrowth shampoo by the way, LOL
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    But he clearly has observed the positive effects and knows about the pumping of cerebrospinal fluid, he has taken a whole different modality to treat the same conditions. Fascinating...
    At first glance, his book is similar. He finds unique ways, usually including some business opportunities for himself, to do "the exact same things" that you and others have been discovering are so powerful.

    I like his home spun explanations ... but find his promotions a bit greasy.
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    1000% agree Paul.

    Somebody posted this in the David Icke forum and I think it's relevant to this thread, might help some people:

    I've looked into this treatment and it has some advantages and disadvantages compared to neurocranial restructuring/endonasal balloon therapy. One of the biggest advantage is that it's only $250 and only requires one treatment, compared to the NCR docs who charge at least $500, most of them $700-1000. Next biggest advantage is results happen faster. Disadvantage is it won't restructure the face/skull as much and it doesn't offer continuous benefits (i.e. you can't keep treating). It's a one time deal.

    "Hi guys, my family and I recently had the Atlasprofilax treatment over the weekend and I would love to share with you my experience.

    The Atlasprofilax treatment(i'll now refer to as just the treatment) is a method of correcting the position of your Atlas, the top bone in your spine. The atlas is reportedly out of place from birth/before birth(children born through C-section have been apparently been observed to have their atlas out of place). This can cause a myriad of problems from neck ache to sciatica, from depression to an out of control temper, digestion problems and concentration.

    Flexibility problems, joint pain, poor immune system, poor eye sight even blindness. Still the list goes on, I couldn't justify not using a new paragraph! But on a serious note, there seems to be a benefit to having this treatment for every human being sharing this planet(Sounding like a hippy is not a side effect, don't worry).

    As I can see, the treatment works in 2 ways. 1st by allowing the spine to go back to it's original and the bodies prefered position. Imagine hanging a chain from the top link down, if you turn the top link the rest of the chain will turn too. If you turned the lower links back into the old position before you turned the top link, they will inevitably begin to turn as soon as you stop holding them. Unfortunately almost all work done on the spine is started in the wrong way, for the spine to be in it's correct position, the 1st Cervical vertebrae must be in place, otherwise any work done on the spine will give at best only temporary relief.

    The 2nd way in which the treatment works is by taking any possible unwanted pressure on your nerves right from the top of your spine 1st. Seeing as information from the brain must travel from the brain and down through the nerves in your spine, it makes perfect sense to treat this area before attempting much else on the lower. Taking pressure off the trapped nerves allows them to function properly. This means you can experience pain relief which is usually instant, noticable seconds after the Atlas is corrected! Improvements in all of your senses would not be unusual, 3 days after the treatment I cannot believe how sharp my hearing and eyesight have become and my wife no longer needs her glasses to read! Apparently her hearing has not improved as she still doesn't listen to anything I say...

    There are so many benefits and reasons to have this treatment it can seem unreal when someone speaks about it. Any skepticism I held before hand has been put to rest.

    Personally I have experienced the following;

    Neck Pain - gone
    Back pain, around the spine - 60% better
    Back pain, muscular, old injuries etc - 60% better
    Increased range of movement in my neck
    Joint pain - gone! Feels like all my joints have been oiled!
    Morning headaches, completely gone
    Improved vision
    Pain behind right eye - gone
    Waking up much earlier and feeling much more refreshed.
    Feeling happier! I feel fantastic physicaly and emotionaly!
    Less stress and much better stress management, this feels fantastic
    improved digestion and much better bowel movements
    Better breathing, through better posture my organs have more space!


    There are other things but these are certainley the major benefits I have experienced so far. I am also aware of old injuries as a dull ache while they're healing, this is nothing compared to how uncomfortable I can be simply sitting down or trying to get to sleep. I have slept like a baby since I have had this treatment!

    I am an athlete and I will be returning to training tomorrow after a short break due to illness (that has cleared up since having the treatment) and I cannot wait to see and feel the changes in my workouts.

    I feel like I've been typing forever so I'll just put this information out there and hopefully it will benefit others, I'll try to answer any questions, feel free to post them here so others can see the answer but if you would prefer just send me a private message

    www.atlasprofilax.com - the official website of the treatment, some background of the treatment etc and lists of practitioners"
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    Thanks! Booked a session this Tuesday!
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    "Hi guys, my family and I recently had the Atlasprofilax treatment over the weekend and I would love to share with you my experience.

    The Atlasprofilax treatment(i'll now refer to as just the treatment) is a method of correcting the position of your Atlas, the top bone in your spine. The atlas is reportedly out of place from birth/before birth(children born through C-section have been apparently been observed to have their atlas out of place). This can cause a myriad of problems from neck ache to sciatica, from depression to an out of control temper, digestion problems and concentration.

    Flexibility problems, joint pain, poor immune system, poor eye sight even blindness. Still the list goes on, I couldn't justify not using a new paragraph! But on a serious note, there seems to be a benefit to having this treatment for every human being sharing this planet(Sounding like a hippy is not a side effect, don't worry).

    As I can see, the treatment works in 2 ways. 1st by allowing the spine to go back to it's original and the bodies prefered position. Imagine hanging a chain from the top link down, if you turn the top link the rest of the chain will turn too. If you turned the lower links back into the old position before you turned the top link, they will inevitably begin to turn as soon as you stop holding them. Unfortunately almost all work done on the spine is started in the wrong way, for the spine to be in it's correct position, the 1st Cervical vertebrae must be in place, otherwise any work done on the spine will give at best only temporary relief.

    The 2nd way in which the treatment works is by taking any possible unwanted pressure on your nerves right from the top of your spine 1st. Seeing as information from the brain must travel from the brain and down through the nerves in your spine, it makes perfect sense to treat this area before attempting much else on the lower. Taking pressure off the trapped nerves allows them to function properly. This means you can experience pain relief which is usually instant, noticable seconds after the Atlas is corrected! Improvements in all of your senses would not be unusual, 3 days after the treatment I cannot believe how sharp my hearing and eyesight have become and my wife no longer needs her glasses to read! Apparently her hearing has not improved as she still doesn't listen to anything I say...

    There are so many benefits and reasons to have this treatment it can seem unreal when someone speaks about it. Any skepticism I held before hand has been put to rest.

    Personally I have experienced the following;

    Neck Pain - gone
    Back pain, around the spine - 60% better
    Back pain, muscular, old injuries etc - 60% better
    Increased range of movement in my neck
    Joint pain - gone! Feels like all my joints have been oiled!
    Morning headaches, completely gone
    Improved vision
    Pain behind right eye - gone
    Waking up much earlier and feeling much more refreshed.
    Feeling happier! I feel fantastic physicaly and emotionaly!
    Less stress and much better stress management, this feels fantastic
    improved digestion and much better bowel movements
    Better breathing, through better posture my organs have more space!


    There are other things but these are certainley the major benefits I have experienced so far. I am also aware of old injuries as a dull ache while they're healing, this is nothing compared to how uncomfortable I can be simply sitting down or trying to get to sleep. I have slept like a baby since I have had this treatment!

    I am an athlete and I will be returning to training tomorrow after a short break due to illness (that has cleared up since having the treatment) and I cannot wait to see and feel the changes in my workouts.

    I feel like I've been typing forever so I'll just put this information out there and hopefully it will benefit others, I'll try to answer any questions, feel free to post them here so others can see the answer but if you would prefer just send me a private message

    www.atlasprofilax.com - the official website of the treatment, some background of the treatment etc and lists of practitioners"
    Yes, I did that too back in Oct of 2006. Did it again in 2009. It helped alot, but it didn't fix the rest of my problems permanently and STILL my Atlas didn't stay in place, even after two times. It was done by Ranan Shahar. The second time was different due to him changing it and called it AtlasEvolution. http://www.AtlasEvolution.com

    After two more NCR sessions, I'll wait for Ranan to come back to our area and get another Atlas session done. With improved cranial/facial shape and the Atlas being in place, I should be doing very well by then. I wanted to do it before NCR for the third time, but figured I would get done with NCR four sessions first, wait awhile for things to settle and then do it again.

    I remember after the initial AtlasPro, I started dropping weight for no reason. I lost 25 lbs, and believe me, I needed to lose that extra weight. My local chiropractor said it was probably because of giving more room for the hypothalamus gland to function properly. I've read the NCR allows the pituitary gland to function correctly too.

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