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[Unified Serenity]

Some of you have probably watched this a long time ago, but I wanted to repost it. I searched and did not see this in any threads by this title.

Examine what's happened and what is happening. As this came out a few years ago, it should be easy to look back and react to what has happened since this came out:

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU

[Unified Serenity]

Why are the industrialized economies of the world collapsing? It's by design:

“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?” UN environmentalist Maurice Strong in 1990

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Strong is the stuff of nightmares for revanchist conspiracy theorists who hear the whirr of the UN's black helicopters: a gilded Rockefeller socialist linked to the Lucis Trust; a proponent of one world religion and government.

For instance:

In 1978, a mystic informed Hanne and Maurice Strong that "the Baca would become the center for a new planetary order which would evolve from the economic collapse and environmental catastrophes that would sweep the globe in the years to come." The Strongs say they see the Baca, which they call 'The Valley Of the Refuge Of World Truths ,'" as the paradigm for the entire planet and say that the fate of the earth is at stake. Shirley MacLaine agrees - her astrologer told her to move to the Baca, and she did. She is building a New Age study center at the Baca where people can take short week-long courses on the occult! Apparently, the Kissingers, the Rockefellers, the McNamaras, the Rothschild's, and other Establishment New World Order elitists all agree as well, for they do their pilgrimage to the Baca - where politics and the occult - the New World Order and the New Age - all merge. Watch Maurice Strong and watch the Baca!

I have to say, this is a curious place for me to be. Because much of what Strong espouses, I could say I support. I'm a socialist, I'm an environmentalist, I'm ecumenical in spirit. But I think to get at the heart of the mystery of our age, we need to take off our left or right blinders, and quit gaming our parapolitics to match our politics. As Jacques Vallee has written, most UFO researchers omit the most compelling evidence because it doesn't match their presumption of extraterrestrial origin. Similarly, I think watching Strong has merit, regardless of who else is watching him.

And perhaps it's worth noting here that Strong's Baca Grande is reputedly an active site for observing both UFOs and spirtitual manifestations.

For instance, from 1996:

A fourth witness in the Baca looked up and saw an "egg-shaped" sphere that instantly shot over the mountains. The witness had the distinct impression that the object reacted to her "seeing it." One has to wonder if folks are simply witnessing real extra-mundane phenomena, or indulging their wishful thinking. I can't help but think they are seeing something unusual. There were no known reports to the sheriff's office of these possible early fall overflights of the valley.

It's very tempting to jump to conclusions concerning these "orange lights" hanging over the San Luis Valley. They are so common, I'd bet we miss a lot of them. They blend into the sky so effortlessly.

Baca Grande also appears a magnet for military attention:

Multiple witnesses observed an extremely low-flying gunmetal colored 4-engine jet power cargo plane. One witness called it "C-17" which he thought was a new NATO plane that is "replacing the C-4." The plane arrived at tree-top level from the north, made a dangerous low left-hand turn, just above the treetops on N.Crestone Creek. Plane "seemed unusually quiet fro a jet," and was between 100 and 200 feet in altitude.

Strong has said that "we may get to the point where the only way of saving the world will be for industrial civilization to collapse." Again, largely, I agree. One teeny distinction between us: Strong is one of those in a position to effect its collapse.

Here's Strong, thinking dangerous thoughts aloud at the conclusion of an interview with WEST magazine in May, 1990 entitled "The Wizard of the Baca Grande":

Each year the World Economic Forum convenes in Davos, Switzerland. Over a thousand CEOs, prime ministers, finance ministers, and leading academics gather in February to attend meetings and set the economic agendas for the year ahead. What if a small group of these word leaders were to conclude that the principle risk to the earth comes from the actions of the rich countries? And if the world is to survive, those rich countries would have to sign an agreement reducing their impact on the environment. Will they do it? Will the rich countries agree to reduce their impact on the environment? Will they agree to save the earth?

The group's conclusion is "no." The rich countries won't do it. They won't change. So, in order to save the planet, the group decides: isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?

This group of world leaders form a secret society to bring about a world collapse. It's February. They're all at Davos. These aren't terrorists - they're world leaders. They have positioned themselves in the world's commodity and stock markets. They've engineered, using their access to stock exchanges, and computers, and gold supplies, a panic. Then they prevent the markets from closing. They jam the gears. They have mercenaries who hold the rest of the world leaders at Davros as hostage. The markets can't close. The rich countries...?

The journalist adds, "and Strong makes a slight motion with his fingers as if he were flicking a cigarette butt out of the window. I sat there spellbound.... He is, in fact, co-chairman of the Council of the World Economic Forum. He sits at the fulcrum of power. He is in a position to do it."

Many who have come to read between the lines of the official fable of 9/11 stop reading once they read of PNAC and The Grand Chessboard. I used to as well. But I've been persuaded that the deep truths of 9/11 run deeper, just as the planning and facilitation of the attacks are older than Dick Cheney's regency. And Strong's words strike me as making as compelling a case for self-indictment as PNAC's "new Pearl Harbor."

Certainly the neoconservatives are important players in the drama. (Lest we forget, Strong will now be advising Paul Wolfowitz in the latter's new role as President of the World Bank). But the neocons may themselves have been played, and too blinded by their imperial overreach to know they've become useful idiots of another agenda which will mean America's ruin. An agenda which intends to reboot the world.

I've said it before, but there's something about Luciferians that bears repeating: they think they're the good guys.

Connect the dots! You wonder who is behind the collapse of the industrialized world? Who is behind the destruction of the environment to push us to collapse? Think about it, I'll give you 2 seconds and it should be obvious.

[joedjemal]

Not quite by design, it was always going to collapse. Every expansionist civilisation in history has ended in collapse. What happens is that sustainable societies that don't have elites are destroyed by expansionist civilisations that then go on to collapse as soon as they can no longer grow a critical resource. Elitist societies are ruled by psychopaths, sustainable ones tend not to be.

The industrial civilisation that currently spans the globe was doomed to collapse the moment it started because it's systems are utterly dependant on growth which, in a finite system, cannot be continued indefinitely. It's a physical impossibility. Admittedly the elites are indeed talking about controlling this collapse, they're obsessed with controlling everything. That is the nature of psychopaths. But it was always going to happen one way or another.

To transform our society into a sustainable one would have required the end of their control as they can only consider their own desires and needs above all else. They would die first rather than relinquish control and as they are much more prepared to kill than non psychopaths they always end up ruling regardless of how hellish that rule makes the world for all others. So globally we're locked into this process of expansion, conquest, exploitation and collapse.

The only way I could see for us to break this cycle is a global effort to identify sociopaths, both narcissists and psychopaths, as children and then to ensure they never get in a position of power over others. But in a world where the vast majority can't even comprehend the problem I can't see how this dismal cycle could be broken.

Unsustainable systems, by their very nature, fail. This discussion by them is all about how to manage that failure and how to keep control after it has failed. Without a profound awakening I can't see how they could be prevented from succeeding.

[modwiz]

Posted by joedjemal (here)
Not quite by design, it was always going to collapse. Every expansionist civilisation in history has ended in collapse. What happens is that sustainable societies that don't have elites are destroyed by expansionist civilisations that then go on to collapse as soon as they can no longer grow a critical resource. Elitist societies are ruled by psychopaths, sustainable ones tend not to be.

The industrial civilisation that currently spans the globe was doomed to collapse the moment it started because it's systems are utterly dependant on growth which, in a finite system, cannot be continued indefinitely. It's a physical impossibility. Admittedly the elites are indeed talking about controlling this collapse, they're obsessed with controlling everything. That is the nature of psychopaths. But it was always going to happen one way or another.

To transform our society into a sustainable one would have required the end of their control as they can only consider their own desires and needs above all else. They would die first rather than relinquish control and as they are much more prepared to kill than non psychopaths they always end up ruling regardless of how hellish that rule makes the world for all others. So globally we're locked into this process of expansion, conquest, exploitation and collapse.

The only way I could see for us to break this cycle is a global effort to identify sociopaths, both narcissists and psychopaths, as children and then to ensure they never get in a position of power over others. But in a world where the vast majority can't even comprehend the problem I can't see how this dismal cycle could be broken.

Unsustainable systems, by their very nature, fail. This discussion by them is all about how to manage that failure and how to keep control after it has failed. Without a profound awakening I can't see how they could be prevented from succeeding.

These two sentences highlight the real problem. Like any illness it is the terrain and not the actual pathogen that creates a systemic failure of some sort. I'd like to think that awakening on a huge scale is happening and will not 'jinx' it by allowing for anything other than that, but my observations give me other data. Even on alternative sites like this one, I see it far less than is needed for the job at hand.

For me the deal breaker and 'magic bullet' is ET/ED's. The reason why I believe they can provide the extra kick to awakening has nothing to do with being saviors, but quite the opposite. Their appearance on the world stage, with them being an irrefutable fact, will help shatter the spell of ignorance that has been spun by religion. It is religions that have fed the divine savior myth and implanted this disempowering meme in humankind to begin with. The removal of this stultifying effect could be just the cleansing and shock therapy needed to move us to the consciousness that would allow for us to see the problem. Us and our penchant to believe clever liars who trap us with their spells of this and that. We could then get to the business of saving ourselves.

FE, would remove the energy problem which is at the source of all perceived lack as well as allow for an end to the destruction of the ecosystem of this Planet. The end of the rape of Gaia.

The control of energy and resources has always been the force multiplier for the GC (global controllers) which affords them control way beyond their numbers. The poisoned media and publishing industry is another such force multiplier. The controllers are clever, but it only works with a distracted population. The managing and creation of these distractions is their stock in trade.

[joedjemal]

Hope they do Modwiz. I think the collapse itself might focus some minds.

[ivaray]

Perhaps we should think beyond bi-party system? In majority of the most developed Western countries the bi-party system is history. Perhaps the parliamentary system and multi-party system could give more small window-openings to the democracy? Are we brave enough to establish something different than the most old-fashion type of democracy? Would we vote for the independent candidate and another party? Would you? Or we would just support the status-quo situation? The difference between one-party system known as totalitarianism and bi-party system is only one more, which seems today that doesn't make a huge difference from another one.....