Dr. Steven Greer Holds His Own Rendition of Shock and Awe

[Snowbird]

I normally don't follow Dr. Steven Greer or his Orion Project, but I sat and listened to this extremely interesting and informative audio/video by Greer and his two associates from May. What they collectively had to report is very other-worldly. They speak about the genuine attempts made by very sincere people, who very much want alternative energy sources brought out and whose everything in life, is threatened.

Greer describes what is purposely being done to our planet as planetocide and he describes in some detail what he and his associates hold in their possession that will be immediately released en masse if something happens to one of them.

Dr. Steven Greer: Important Orion Update 1/6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5gk3h1kYmE

[Moemers]

They should release it now.

[John Parslow]

Hello Snowbird

Thank you very much for the interesting link. I wonder who the scientist whom they were discussing, the name Dr. Pete Peterson springs to mind but obviously this is just one of the possible many ...

Love and peace to you. JP

[Elixer]

I love the stuff Greer is working on, disclosure, free energy. Awesome stuff.
But listening to him, he just rubs me the wrong way. His ego seems to be just HUGE, what with the name dropping, the fancy french words, the frequent mention of the many great things he is doing, the fact that he seems to like to hear his own voice, hardly giving another the chance to speak and so on.
Planeticide? Come on. Now he's just trying to inject a term into the popular vocabulary.

This Ego thing has got to be a problem in these fields. It makes one vulnerable to let's say luciferian temptation. The name Orion also has some seriously negative associations.
I realize that my attitude in this regards might be somewhat petty, but I just find hard to take him seriously, even though I'd love to.
It is plausible to me that he is a controlled mouthpiece to soothe the conspiracy crowd.
Except for the initial Press Club disclosure, which I thought was amazing, it seems just a bunch of talk.
Can someone point to something concrete from this guy?

He even mentions (in video 4/6), as I am writing this in fact, that there are people out there "selling snake oil" and "just because someone says they have something, doesn't make it so. It has to be provable". Pot calling kettle black?
It sort of synchronistically confirms my point to me.

[Pan]

Posted by Snowbird (here)
he describes in some detail what he and his associates hold in their possession that will be immediately released en masse if something happens to one of them.

See that right there says more then you need to know.

I don't care much for Greer be that pro or con.
But nobody who is sincere will sit on this tech until further notice. Sure, it might cause global chaos, drastic geopolitical power changes and so on. But protecting this tech has resulted in the former as well.

In short I'm just trying to say that there are many people out there who are actively changing this world. They understand it needs to come from an open source non profit mentality.
Greer does not fall into that category.

I'd say his symptoms are what is classically called UFOmadness. Eitherway, Greer is selfish. And selfish people are not the ones holding the solution.
At least thats my opinion.

[steve_a]

Hi Snowbird,

If back pedalling was a source of energy, Greer would be raking it in by now. I'm begining to think he just likes the sound of his own voice. Had a brief listen to the audio and he claims that the Orion Project will only fund 'professional laboratries'. If the laboratries are professional, why would they need limited funds from the Orion Project? As for people being afraid os losing their pensions, most new projects are kept under lock and key and most inovative energy projects are normally bought out by big industry, put on the back burner for when they will really need to use it.

If Greer has something of interest, he should put up, or shut up. Gassing on and on about justifying how he isn't helping anybody, or making much sense is just not cutting it any more. Even the most ardent fan is becoming to get a little frayed around the edges.

In contrast we can clearly see people who are seriously wanting to contribute to savng and using alternative energies at the following link: http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com...010/061810.htm

On another Greer note; He apparently said that if Obama didn't disclose ET presence another nation will work with him to find and disclose. Well in my reckoning, he has around five weeks to get things going. Or will he blame the other Government for fibbing to him?

Best regards,

Steve

[John Parslow]

Hello steve_a

What a brilliantly simple idea, thank you for a really interesting link these guys are really thinking outside the box. I sincerely hope they can get this project going. No more asphalt required; power generation from the roads and recycling waste. Looks like they killed three birds with one stone, I sincerely hope this project will be 'allowed' to get off the ground (that should read on the ground) by the ptb.

Love and peace to you my friend. JP

[lindabaker]

Hello, Steve. I think your link deserves it's own thread. It warrants everyone's attention. Solar roadways: brilliant! If Penn State is on it, it's sound science.

[steve_a]

Hi lindabaker, John Parslow & Co.,

Innovative ideas are always being thought about. I'm suprised (or perhaps not) that Greer hasen't already heard of this and is not pumping his fundings into projects like this, considering his supposed interest and zeal in finding these new forms of using or creating energy. But as I have already said, 'professional' labs that Greer is looking for are exactly that, professional, and don't need the likes of Greer to offer dubious contracts for supposed funding.

If the glass road gets off the ground (or on it) I'm sure there could very well be an industry which will buy the patent and shelve it. But that's another story.

Best regards,

Steve

[Snowbird]

Posted by Moemers (here)
They should release it now.

Well, if they release it now, they will be removed shortly thereafter.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

I have a friend who worked closely with Steven Greer for several years, traveled with him, etc., and she adored him in a strangely Guru sort of way. I met him through her and my opinion was what several of you have already posted. HUGE ego, and he surrounds himself with people who do adore him and hold him in a god-like position. I've read some of his books, and while I believe he did have many of the OBE he describes, somewhere along the way his belief system became so concrete that he will do anything to protect his belief (which is attached to ego) to the point where he will not accept any new facts or information that don't support it.... Conversely, I have to give him kudos as he has done much to get ET experiences and information out there, which has made the subject more palatable to much of the general public..... and I agree with Steve, the PTB will shelve anything that doesn't support the flow of money and power to them. If you haven't already, I invite you to listen to Brian O'Leary's interview on Project Camelot. Happy Hunting, Ba-ba-Ra

[Snowbird]

Posted by Elixer (here)
I love the stuff Greer is working on, disclosure, free energy. Awesome stuff.
But listening to him, he just rubs me the wrong way. His ego seems to be just HUGE,...

Stop and think about it. Someone up against huge forces has to have a degree of ego to survive and Steven Greer has survived against all odds. Some time ago I read his book, Hidden Truth-Forbidden Knowledge. There is little ego showing in that book.

This guy is up against a huge rock and a granite hard place. He is a Starseed of magnanimous proportions.

Planeticide? Come on. Now he's just trying to inject a term into the popular vocabulary.

Quite frankly, I think he is right on with that new term. Our planet is being murdered.

Except for the initial Press Club disclosure, which I thought was amazing, it seems just a bunch of talk.
Can someone point to something concrete from this guy?

You just answered your own question.

He even mentions (in video 4/6), as I am writing this in fact, that there are people out there "selling snake oil" and "just because someone says they have something, doesn't make it so. It has to be provable".

There are always inventions that do not pan out.

The greatest problem within The Orion Project, is a gross lack of funds. They need the money for technologies that go beyond what is already available today. They are talking about the technologies that will vastly help our planet and our population immediately and not in 20 or 30 years. Those technologies are available but are being held back by those whose names are on Greer's Shock and Awe list.

[Snowbird]

Posted by steve_a (here)
Hi lindabaker, John Parslow & Co.,

Innovative ideas are always being thought about. I'm suprised (or perhaps not) that Greer hasen't already heard of this and is not pumping his fundings into projects like this, considering his supposed interest and zeal in finding these new forms of using or creating energy. But as I have already said, 'professional' labs that Greer is looking for are exactly that, professional, and don't need the likes of Greer to offer dubious contracts for supposed funding.

If the glass road gets off the ground (or on it) I'm sure there could very well be an industry which will buy the patent and shelve it. But that's another story.

Best regards,

Steve

Steve, they have no funds and this is the crux of the problem.

The glass road is a wonderful idea and I hope that these folks are able to run with it. But I'll tell you something that you already know, if this becomes overwhelmingly popular and usable and has potential to make them financially wealthy, it will be squelched. This technology will be shelved and we will never hear about it again. BTW, I subscribe to CMN and love it.

There are some drawbacks or conflicts about this glass road that will have to be worked out. These just popped into my mind as I watched the video. What if the LEDs go out? How are they replaced? These roads would have to be used in areas of the country that are not heavily populated. My mind is going to street hole covers and snow country with hilly and slippery roads. These would have to be built to withstand tremendous desert heat as well as below zero temps. This surface would have to be heated to melt ice. Just thoughts.....

[steve_a]

Hi Snowbird,

If what you say is true, that the Orion Project has no funds, then they should get out of the way and stop fannying around trying to make up excuses as to why they are not wanting to spend what they don't have. They should just be straight up and say that they would like to see something new happen, but don't look for them for funding as they don't have anything.

Also, if it is true what you say, that they are strapped for funds, the whole Orion Project site could be deemed a scam just to get 'donations' from the good people who think as they do, that free energy should be made available.

If it's true what you say, aren't they the 'snake oil salesmen' that they talk so lowly about?

As the glass road is still in the development stage, I'm sure the inventors are already thinking about those problems. However, also it could very well be that we only think of reflective or clear glass to be smooth and slippery. I'm sure the glass manufacturers would conjur up something to get over those hurdles.

Best regards,

Steve

[MariaDine]

A interview four weeks ago...In the first video the interview starts very near the end...
LOVE
MD

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzjtQaJCX3Y

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc5cYsk7qyU

[onawah]

Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)
I have a friend who worked closely with Steven Greer for several years, traveled with him, etc., and she adored him in a strangely Guru sort of way. I met him through her and my opinion was what several of you have already posted. HUGE ego, and he surrounds himself with people who do adore him and hold him in a god-like position. I've read some of his books, and while I believe he did have many of the OBE he describes, somewhere along the way his belief system became so concrete that he will do anything to protect his belief (which is attached to ego) to the point where he will not accept any new facts or information that don't support it.... Conversely, I have to give him kudos as he has done much to get ET experiences and information out there, which has made the subject more palatable to much of the general public..... and I agree with Steve, the PTB will shelve anything that doesn't support the flow of money and power to them. If you haven't already, I invite you to listen to Brian O'Leary's interview on Project Camelot. Happy Hunting, Ba-ba-Ra

I think you summed up the puzzle of Dr. Greer very well. Thanks!