May 20th Photon Belt Energies!

[Kindred]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Wavy,

My contention is that individuals' perceptions and experiences have been misdirected toward a conveniently presented band-wagon (problem-reaction-solution), thwarting further looking into what it is that's exatly happening.

For the researchers of the subtle and/or invisible energies, better discernment may be brought about by answering questions such as :

What exactly is being perceived?

Where exactly is it being perceived from?

Answers to questions of that vein would derail any band-wagon conveniently suggested for misdirection and the prevention of further eagle-eye looking into the matter; leaving the human generated EMF mind-control programs unobserved... it's way "out there" in space instead.

Amzer Zo... Here's a Very interesting video I think you will appreciate!

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFgYT52__8Y

Note the importance of the OBSERVER!

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

[Rocky_Shorz]

did anyone catch Sorcha's spin?

link

I love the hand in this...

[Marin]

Watching the Eclipse now!

http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2012/05...solar-eclipse/

[Amzer Zo]

Posted by InTheBackground (here)
Amzer Zo,

... your very left-brained and extremely science-based logical thinking, and yet you seem to be having a lot of trouble with those who are more right-brained and feeling in their perceptions, simply because it doesn't fit into the way you yourself perceive and understand.

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Lots of assumptions there... which reminds me I forgot something:

Who or what is performing the actual perceiving?

What exactly is being perceived?

Where exactly is it being perceived from?

With respect to the "who or what," have a peek at some of the posts by 9eagle9 or Carmody's re: "programs" and "beliefs," never mind the Horus-Ra thread.

Posted by Kindred (here)

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Note the importance of the OBSERVER!

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

See the above with respect to the "observer" which also leads to different answers to the other two questions: Is it the observer's universe? The commonly shared 3D universe? Someone else's universe? Combinations of?

[eileenrose]

Hi Transiten,
re "But talking to someone who has the same problem (Lyme's disease) or pple sending me healing or links with information does, ...help"

I personally don't have it. But I did read, in one of "John of God's books" of a salve that the entities (that is how they work there...in Brazil...the spiritualist....) created specifically for Lyme's. You'd have to go there to find out more about that specific cure (as it was for a person who wanted to take it with them...this isn't usual protocol). So they don't carry it (like an herb store) and a specific entity had to prepare it....(just to give specifics).

Of course I recommend going there in person (he is an excellent healer and just being their, in those mediums (they have 60 mediums working at their clinic) presences, heals many ailments). And if you can't go, then do what I did and send them your photo's and prayer request (the entities get right to work...that I can attest to)...and they will (if possible...depends on where you live right now) send you herbs. Just go to their website for this information (johnofgod.com). I picked up two books on him at my local library (so easy to get...at least here...information...so you know how they do what they do).

[wavydome]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by wavydome (here)
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I would say the scientific difficulties in this thread are in fact, due to lack of scientific funding. Most poster's are simply offering their observations around themselves for free. Each person is knowledgable on how there own energy 'feels'....

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~wav

Wavy,

My contention is that individuals' perceptions and experiences have been misdirected toward a conveniently presented band-wagon (problem-reaction-solution), thwarting further looking into what it is that's exatly happening.

For the researchers of the subtle and/or invisible energies, better discernment may be brought about by answering questions such as :

What exactly is being perceived?

Where exactly is it being perceived from?

Answers to questions of that vein would derail any band-wagon conveniently suggested for misdirection and the prevention of further eagle-eye looking into the matter; leaving the human generated EMF mind-control programs unobserved... it's way "out there" in space instead.

Amzer,

Your bottom line: You might mean beware of EMF mind control.... In the form of blue beamed light or weaponized spirituality. One might 'percieve' band wagons taking believers off to la-la land. Is that it?

Subtle energy studies? This thread does have tons more context, to 'perceive' as a set of threads, not just one. The where-from is just individuals who are trying this simpler visualization. My own part is clumbsy as i've admitedly got way too much baggage, for a band wagon or a pied piper. Trying out the process offered by Guruji Krishanaananda, (referred to on these several threads), has no bandwagon i could see.

Where and what would one perceive? More examples? Here is yet another research on subtleties hard to define or place: morphic resonance. Rupert Sheldrake's web publications, (http://www.sheldrake.org/homepage.html) for an additional, more lengthy scientific research concerning unexplained perceptions at distances, (which are not weaponized mind control).

Are we misdirected-everywhere, no way out? I doubt that.

-wav

[Kindred]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
See the above with respect to the "observer" which also leads to different answers to the other two questions: Is it the observer's universe? The commonly shared 3D universe? Someone else's universe? Combinations of?

It has been suggested that Dec. 21-23 is the 'nexus point' of multiple time-lines for Earth (or our solar system). It may be that there will be Multiple Alternate Time-lines that emerge from this Nexus. This concept parallels the outline of that video regarding Quantum Fluctuations Dependent upon the Observer.

We All have Free Will in determining our Outcome...

What would YOU like to See and Experience???

THIS I feel is the Ultimate Issue of this Nexus.

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

[wavydome]

One motivation leading my appreciation for the 'Nexus' concept is also, perhaps, a metaphor of fork in a jungle road. Which road to take? The old one with the NWO, Archons, materialists, matrix... OR a new path earned with one's appropriate, existent-intentionality, (as covered in multiple, associated links). A bigger game above the current game, holds more favorable probability, than the current world madness unfolding today, IMO.

Guruji's expressed, spiritual triad: goodness, honesty and peace

[WhiteFeather]

Some interesting energies yesterday in The East. The sun was burning hot. Couldn't stand in the rays for long intervals, had to find some shade at times.

[Amzer Zo]

Posted by wavydome (here)
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Amzer,

Your bottom line: You might mean beware of EMF mind control.... In the form of blue beamed light or weaponized spirituality. One might 'percieve' band wagons taking believers off to la-la land. Is that it?

Subtle energy studies? This thread does have tons more context, to 'perceive' as a set of threads, not just one. The where-from is just individuals who are trying this simpler visualization. My own part is clumbsy as i've admitedly got way too much baggage, for a band wagon or a pied piper. Trying out the process offered by Guruji Krishanaananda, (referred to on these several threads), has no bandwagon i could see.

Where and what would one perceive? More examples? Here is yet another research on subtleties hard to define or place: morphic resonance. Rupert Sheldrake's web publications, (http://www.sheldrake.org/homepage.html) for an additional, more lengthy scientific research concerning unexplained perceptions at distances, (which are not weaponized mind control).

Are we misdirected-everywhere, no way out? I doubt that.

-wav

Wavy,

The EMF aspect is only one facet of the dice (not necessarily a cube but probably beyond a dodecahedron), some other facets from someone who keeps researching and checking what's being presented against basics, whatever the subject:

From "Riding the wave" by Laura Knight-Jadczyk:

Now, it's all fine and good for the Cassiopaeans to say this or that in regard to other "sources," but the question then becomes: how reliable are the Cassiopaeans themselves? If a person were to write to me and ask about their weekly "channel o'choice," and I were to inform them that the Cassiopaeans had said that the individual was just patching together their own theories about things from their reading and presenting it as channeled information (which was the explanation in one case - a very popular and prolific source with an extensive web site), what would be the point? If the reader LIKES that source and LIKES their material, and further, based on their knowledge at the time (which may be greater or lesser, depending on the amount of research they have done into the subjects being talked about by their chosen"source"), believes it to be an accurate representation of reality, even if what is being talked about is a hidden reality, then they are perfectly right to adhere to their choice of belief systems.

If, however, after a certain period of time of studying any such material, doing corollary research and comparisons to what can be observed and known through other disciplines, they discover that the presentation by the given source no longer "holds up" to scrutiny, then they are perfectly right to discard that belief system and expand their scope of understanding.

This is why I say repeatedly that it is our responsibility to "do the work," examine the material, observe, research in the fields being discussed, compare, and most of all, THINK. When you strip away all the lies, what is left is Truth. And, in some teachings, you find that when you "peel the onion," there is nothing in the middle!

The question then arises: can and do "benevolent" sources at other levels of reality LIE?

Yes.

I can hear the sharp gasps of horror and negation at this statement. I realize that many people have had "channeling experiences" with beings of "love and light" who infuse every word, every contact, every interaction with insuperable sensations of "love and well-being," which amounts to "proof" that their source is a truly "higher" being(s). And then, how often have I heard the story from hypnosis subjects who have come to me for help, telling me that when they began their channeling experiments, performing the prescribed exercises of "surrounding the self with love and light" and "calling on my guides and higher self for protection," the resulting contacts and information were "transcendent" and truly "love oriented;" and then something "went wrong?" Something turned around and there were energy drains, the messages that initially were so positive and beautiful soon became "oddly" different or "off key." In some cases, it turns ugly and intervention is necessary. In others, the percipient is convinced that they must "suffer" the side-effects for the sake of "the work," and no intervention is desired. But at the same time they wanted me to "fix" their stress problems or help them work on their energy levels, or find out if the "real" problem was in THEM, their past lives, or anything other than the fact that they were hooked up with vampiric "guides."

Sometimes the percipient doesn't have such problems as this. The problem becomes apparent in other ways. Their source tells them that they are "special" or "chosen" in some way - that they are really a "great teacher" who is a "walk-in" or an "incarnation" who was stimulated to "awaken" on the day they serendipitously decided to "channel my higher self." They are given "titles," such as "Lord Ramananda" or "Lady Krishnagupa" or whatever. They are given to know that they are to be the new purveyors of the long hidden science of "Keyturn" or whatever, and the dance begins. The words pour forth in awesome syntactical matrices of great profundity and beneficence. And all the listeners agree that they are somehow "changed" or "uplifted and inspired" by the presence of so great a master in their midst. They follow the teachings, invest their time and money in predicted events of "mass landings" or "photon belts" or cometary companions who are going to airlift them to glory, and then - what? The predicted rapture goes kaflooey, and the "excuses" begin in an effort to find someone or something to blame for the disappointment.

When the percipient knows what's perceiving, what exactly is being perceived and where it's perceived from, the "might" disappears and becomes knowledge.

Regarding the band-wagon I am referring to, it's in the title of this thread.

For the source of that one, someone did some digging in 1996 and stated this:

What puzzled me was where the photon-belt story came from. The 1991 Nexus article was based on a 1981 article in an Australian UFO mag. I spoke to Colin Norris, head of the Australian UFO society that publishes the magazine, and he said it was coauthored by a "middle-aged mother" and a college undergraduate. Norris denied it was a prank, but it seems clear these folks didn't have detailed technical knowledge, unless of course they were on the horn with the guys from Sirius.

From: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/963/is-the-earth-about-to-enter-the-photon-belt-causing-the-end-of-life-as-we-know-it

With respect to who or what performs the perceiving and who/what are the probable candidates for doing the broadcasting, the Horus-Ra thread is a good starting point, but that's IMO.

[wavydome]

We take the sense of this metaphor differently Amzer. We seem to lack a starship to check it all out, besides. So we choose and focus on our preferred reading materials too. All is well that way. ~wav

[Kindred]

Here's an interesting article reflecting much of what was discussed in this thread...

http://wakeup-world.com/2012/04/10/i...-cosmic-shift/

In Unity, Peace and LOVE

[frozen alchemy]

It's high allergy season in northern hemisphere (tree pollens) and also hay fever, ragweed season in the southern hemisphere. Add in we're all getting dosed off of Fukushima every day and...

[nearing]

It's pretty diffcult to pinpoint a cause, isnt' it? If only we were far enough into the Dwarpara that we could plug into the subtle energies.

Maybe that's what will happen in December...

[WhiteFeather]

My energy has been good of late. Time is moving off the clock. Sometimes during the week im not sure of what day it is exactly. Tuesdays feel like Wednesdays. And Again sleeping at night is easy....... conked out by 9:00 pm. Care to Share your energy experiences with us. Please post it.

[Kimberley]

For the past 2 months I have gone back to my original "time" sleep and "awake" patterns... up till midnight or longer and sleep on and off until noon... Due to having children, 20 years ago, and trying to keep up with her, first born, patterns I had been up at 6am and going to sleep at 8pm for the past 20 yeas. In the past 2 months I have been staying up mostly past midnight and then sleeping until noon if at all possible,,, I love it!!!

So for me I have gone back to my original pattern of "sleep" and "awake" time and it feels GREAT!!!!

[wavydome]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
....When the percipient knows what's perceiving, what exactly is being perceived and where it's perceived from, the "might" disappears and becomes knowledge....

Thanks again Amzer. Just how much we need-perceive is another issue too, as it can otherwise become data in and data out. It can be a meditative quality with original intent, besides... It can also, otherwise, be a perception-experience, free from requisite contexts, free from journalistic look-ups. Free from required copyrighted definitions... Perhaps i was too independent that way. I don't feel compelled by academic -ologies, -ononomies, -isms but enjoy reflecting on them, now and then, when cited. Especially if not too long. I appreciated all the interview-guests and works on Camelot, two winters ago. It just seemed we were and are in a 'now' moment... What we were and still now are seeing and feeling, as the galaxy systems turn and some yearn for better experience. I feel we are making efforts at group-perception. Plus i feel all that i have worked for, for decades. What became available to perceive is now. I'm very thankful for that too.

[wavydome]

Lest my observations and responsibilities self fixate, i wish to share a quote here, for balance. This quote concerns deceptions which can easily accompany any great great expectation. Expectations for improvements in our earthly reality... I just found this text, in a very complex book, which details many communicated natures of 'aliens' and purportedly said by aliens... Sadly much of the book may seem scary, due to some negative aliens manipulating earth... The positive aliens indeed are there for us if we but learn to access them, do our homework, grow our awarenesses, learn cosmic ecology starting withy earth ecology, showing collective responsibility, etc... The author seems reliable to me after intensive studies, at least to the extent of recommending him here. Bill and Kerry also interviewed him some time ago and regarded him well.

from the book "Alien Mind The Thought and Behavior of Extraterrestrials, 2010"
Pg 193: "Using psychotronic energy shells, remote voicing is easy to effect........Comments can be set so that you “hear” them (telepathically) only when an external noise level occurs in your environment. In other words, you “hear” a remark when a bird chirps or a noise arises near you. That simultaneous overlap can make a naif think that it’s almost godly, surely a higher order of mind.

I gave more of the quote here. The entire book links are in this other post.

Got to run back to other commitments now.

Until later,

wavydome

[jcocks]

We had some extremely strange weather come through the last few days. One storm came through with category 2 cyclone-strength winds (140km/h) caused widespread destruction - luckily mostly downed trees etc, not too much house damage. A tree in our front yard was torn down by the wind, but luckily fell away from the house. Last night had another extremely strong storm come through that they were expecting to be similar to the sunday storm, but luckily was not as strong. I've had a persistant headache ever since, and feeling disoriented. Like our street is the same street but somehow different...

And, to top it off, I had a long in-depth dream last night in which I was in the army and we were fighting a war....... Yep, energies are getting stranger

Joel

[wavydome]

jcocks, may we send feelings of wellness to you and yours... i really want to add that for odd, lingering, mild head aches, i find tiger-balm is really great, just in case a random tip might help?