Question about the 150 MPG carburettor

[Strat]

I have an old truck that I enjoy working on. It's a big 1978 Ford F150. Believe it or not, the gas mileage is pretty good because it has an inline 6 with a stick shift and low rear axle gears.

I am in the process of changing the intake/exhaust manifolds and gaskets. I am also going to rebuild the carb because it could use it.

So I got thinking about that 150 MPG carb. I'm very skeptical about this but I am willing to try. I have two other carbs that will directly bolt on to my truck. I figure I can rig one of those anyway necessary because if it doesn't work then I can just replace it with another stock carb.

So do you guys have any links? I do need technical details.

Oh and if you enjoy mechanical stuff here are some cool pics I've taken along the way:


IMAG0027.jpg by JDShimp, on Flickr
Old exhaust vs the new.


IMAG0026 by JDShimp, on Flickr
Think it's time for a new muffler? haha


IMAG0013 by JDShimp, on Flickr
Engine with everything attached. Mainly took this pic so I would know where the hoses go.


IMAG0019 by JDShimp, on Flickr
Everything removed. Time to degrease (when it stops raining).

[KiwiElf]

I do not have any links and am writing purely from memory. During the 1970's in the UK, an after market carburetor called the Reece-Fische (not sure of spelling either), was made available for owners of air-cooled VW's (ie the "old" type Beetles etc). The carb not only increased performance by around 20%, but also improved gas mileage significantly. I'll try and find out something from some old VW mags I have stashed away

Also, check out REX RESEARCH (Google); I recall significant improvement in efficiency by fitting an "O" shaped magnetic ring around the intake of the carburetor, again, increasing performance & improving gas mileage (altho I don't think 150 mpg!) Happy hunting

[Vangelo]

Hi Strat,

Please keep us informed of your progress. I hope you are successful. I'm sure you've seen the many videos on the cars/trucks converted to water. Here is one of them:

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjqkHhWUKOU

Good luck,
Vangelo

[Paul]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
I do not have any links and am writing purely from memory. During the 1970's in the UK, an after market carburetor called the Reece-Fische (not sure of spelling either), was made available for owners of air-cooled VW's (ie the "old" type Beetles etc).

good memory -- Reece Fish Carburettor (Wikipedia)

[Maia Gabrial]

This would have been nice to have a CENTURY ago! I want the free energy, antigravity stuff now.... Fossil fuel - go away!

[sirdipswitch]

You folks need to be thinking forward, not backward. Everyone talks about "FREE" energy, and then tries to develope an internal combustion engine that gets better milage. Don't make sense to me. YOU, are powerfull beings. YOU must first act like it, to become it. I am working on "Mental" propulsion. So far... I turn my ignition key to unlock the steering and transmission, but without starting the motor, and then back out of my garage... and start rolling forward. But, can't seem to get it to go faster. It's a start, and I'm still workin on it. Wait'll I get it flyin, and play some games with local radar. Wait till I do a fly-by of our local airport tower. chuckle chuckle.

BE, who you are now! Don't just sit and wait for the change!

love and peace
sirdipswitch

[tonton]

good luck on your project........i guess its not luck that will be running it , just water and common sense. An idea has been running through my head lately,on this subject . When i have it clear I will pass it on.That is if i can focus enough, as have lots of ideas,but few get done or tried, from being a slako,and then i have new ones.
the real advice i can give you is to not be like me............Hope you follow through .

[GlassSteagallfan]

The key to high mileage is to evaporate the fuel before combustion. Liquid fuel droplets in the combustion chamber cause the inefficiency.

Check this link for a 100% increase in fuel mileage for carbureted engines and 50% for fuel injected.

http://www.eagle-research.com/fuelsav/hcoxgy.php

[Tane Mahuta]

Hey Strat...

check this link out!!...a good place to start...

http://geetinternational.com/

Good luck matey...please keep the community informed...

TM

[Ammit]

I have done a lot of tests on the old A series engine. This was mainly fitted to austin metro cars years ago, very good engine. I did lots of work to the carb then after few gains and more probs then I needed, I decided to rework the head.

From aprox 45mpg I saw gains of aprox 65mpg+. And that was on a minor bit of rework.

Maybe you could try the same and see what happens.

(edit)
I notice your last pic shows the inlet/outlet. Seems rather a lot of meat in the casting and as big engines need lots of breathing space, maybe try increasing the size of these ports.

[Anchor]

So how do super efficient carbs work?

Surely there is only so much energy in fuel.

Are not modern petrol engines pretty efficient?

[Oouthere]

There was a guy in the 1970's with a 351W in a Thunderbird. He had about a 4 gallon tank and said the car got 150 mpg. He had a heater plate in the tank to boil the fuel so only fumes were sent into a special carb. The tank was very thick so if it exploded it would contain the explosion. He also had a special check valve to stop it from blowing out piping. Can you believe it? Who knows.

There's a lot of info out there that is out right lies concerning this info. I put a hydrogen cell on my '06 Dodge cummins truck. It made zero difference other than running down the battery.

Rich

[Strat]

Well folks, I hate to tell you this but I don't believe any of this is real. I managed to find a site which had incredible claims but they couldn't describe why it worked. What I did find was a lot of (un)technical talk which gave a basic description of how a carb works. However, they wrote about it in a way which is meant to impress. This leads me to think they are looking for a pay check.

A few years ago Honda (maybe it was Acura) had an ad featuring their 'state of the art' rear axle. It demonstrated how it was designed to transfer power to a particular wheel while turning. What they don't tell you, is that technology has been around for like 80 years (or more) and is in literally every sing automobile on the road today. Your car has this, if it didn't, your tires would squeal every time you turn.

I just have to call BS. Alex Jones apparently has documents regarding this carb and how it was suppressed. This is why I looked into it, but frankly I just think it's all wrong.

The thing is the carb doesn't necessarily determine how much mpg a vehicle gets. It's just one component.

@Ammit what you're referring to is porting the heads. I don't have the machinery necessary to do that, and the money that would cost is going towards restoration.

I do have two gas tanks so I may make it hybrid (in the far future). It would be neat to fill up one of the tanks at home with a garden hose.

[Anchor]

Agreed. I smell a rat too.

Unless this carb has some way of incorporating EXTRA power (say "plucked from the ether") into the process that is additional to the normal fuel air detonations, I don't see how it can work.

Now I am not saying it definitely isn't happening, and if anyone knew a way to do this then they may well be risking their lives by talking about it; but is been a long time now and I think there are too many of us and too few of them for this secret - if it did exist not to have leaked by now.

[Czarek]

My 2 cents:
If you're not going to vaporize the fuel completely by the time it hits the combustion chamber and do few other "tricks", keep this in mind:

you have to increase the "swirl" of fuel and air mixture as much as you can. For what I'm talking about, have a look at the head porting techniques here:
http://www.theoldone.com/articles/b16a_head/ Ford had some great articles on this subject that leaked out.
Next have a look at the latest modern designs of boeing wings and incorporate that into the intake/exhaust valve designs.
Have a look at some of comercially available powerful spark plugs. For example:
http://www.pulstar.com/
You can also make your own. Some of the patents are available online. Just do some digging. Here's one examle:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=0f8DAAAAEBAJ
And when you have all that in place, introdue some hydrogen into the combustion chamber in a "controlled way"...
Keep in mind that the old carburators where running on an old fuel. That fuel was considerably "denser" and did not flow as fast as
today's fuel. You can increase the horsepower and fuel economy just by increasing the amount of air the engine gets.
HTH
Czarek

[GlassSteagallfan]

Posted by Strat (here)
I do have two gas tanks so I may make it hybrid (in the far future). It would be neat to fill up one of the tanks at home with a garden hose.

If you ever get to this point, and I hope you do, the water tank has to be stainless steel as well as the rings and the exhaust system. Otherwise you'd find out the hard way in a few months time.

As mentioned before, vaporized fuel is the key. Any liquid droplets of gasoline in the combustion chamber are useless, which is standard in todays petro-drinkers.

Fact: the US manufactures 78mpg Volkswagon vehicles, but they are for export only.

[steveofengland]

There are plenty of new cars out capable of over 85mpg, but 150mpg from a miracle carb is impossible I would say. Its high time the infernal combustion engine was made extinct. How antiquated it really is when you think about it, heavy iron flailing around, burning petrol and kicking out poison.
Now that's saying something considering my background of 14 years in the motor industry and being a full blown petrol head.
I dream of inventing something to replace it with.......maybe one day we will get there.

[Oouthere]

I'm still fairly convinced that the Alexander motor-generator is doable. I'm on my 7th rendition so far but have yet to achieve overunity. With a little luck and ($500 later) the next generator frame should be on its way tomorrow for a new series of tests.

I'm addicted to this stuff, just don't have the time like I once did...

Rich

[Vangelo]

Any updates on the 7th variant?

Regards,
Vangelo

[Vitalux]

In my life I have seen and heard of some pretty amazing energy devices.
I have little to no doubt what so ever that modern society is keep in the technological dark.

There are many examples and proof showing folks creating energy out of water, etc to power cars, and it was done very easy.

I believe anyone can, if they have a mind to do so, can follow others.

Below is a small collection of videos that have in the past caught my attention

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJUSWWCHKeE

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1UrlDNkYSo

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_21KafrwRc

Most of those from my understanding that try and make it...appear to have a very short life=span