David Wilcock's False Predictions

[Wind]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
So, Starseed, you really believe the paradigm will change at the end of 2012 and you will ascend?

Yes, that is my belief, but I'm not saying that it is the ultimate truth. No one knows for sure when the shift will happen, but it will probably happen very soon.

[9eagle9]

Another Rapture.

Franchised just like Rambo.

[9eagle9]

Unfortunately when I have asked my higher self what is out there in the world that could be compared to David Wilcock, parable fashion, my Self keeps insisting its Shawn Cassidy.

So then I get angry at the the self and tell it to be serious and it keeps replying, Serious about what?

[Davy]

Thanks for clarifying all of these failed predictions, Really sheds some light on the validity of what he is saying today. Even though I like David, Truth is the truth and how can we believe Him now with all His failed predictions.

[9eagle9]

I'm not entirely awful I fully intend on supporting David when he opens his chain of drive through restaurants that feature fast Last Suppers.

I'm sort of a foodie though.

[Unified Serenity]

I'm sure in keeping with the right vibration they will feature an all vegan menu because only vegans are on the true vibrational path of enlightenment. Wait, didn't DW say he eats meat? Hmmm, guess I like that about him.

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
II'm glad I just did this mental exercise. The next time DW asks you to buy some book, donate, or pay for some conference where he can predict another dozen things and tell you all how you are going to ascend and disclosure is surely happening, just remember what I said here. Why would he need money if he is ascending?

Exactly... he needs money because clearly he is not ascending.

Many years ago, one of my first teachers taught me Reiki, long before we knew such technique here in the states as "Reiki"
There was no fee charged. He did accept donations in a little box that was off in the corner that was never mentioned.
He told me that the truth must always be free.
That we have the right to heal each other and to be a free channel.
He told me that the possibilities were endless
that all true wisdom was free and would come to you if you but asked for it.

he further explained to me that if his work was right and true that what money or support was necessary would spontaneously manefest from the good hearts that could see and that the universe would support him... his work did not count on me or on any other person. this he told me when gently scolding me for not coming to learn because I had no money to put in his donations box.

that was when I learned about the power of the old biblical saying,,, ask and you shall receive, knock and it shall be opened.
All the things of most worth that I have learned cost nothing or next to nothing and the universe provides for me according to my sacred dream, ever unfolding

If DW were for real, I think he could do much much more without his books, without his hype, without his fear mongering, without his excuses, without his emotional drivil and without exciting his followers into emotional states surrounding events that do not happen. Clearly he has a magnetic or magical appeal to some but his work is not matching the expectations that he projects.

and yes, as far as I can tell he has not really written anything new or revelatory, just encapsulations of the same old same old.

Chirst did much much more without a dime.... as well as Edgar Cayce... who was not paid for his readings... and who never wrote a book... but yet the people gathered around him and created an enduring educational structure as they have done with other greats such as Yogananda. Look only to their unevolved diciples to inflate fees and make access more difficult.

As long as people believe that the truth must be paid for, that knowledge comes with a price tag, and things are only worth their monetary cost, so it will be. We must get past this in order to evolve. Such belief has been the downfall of the newage movement (as well as others) into materialism.

You cannot walk the walk of evolution until you give up the old paradigm
and it is a process filled with many baby steps along the way, doubts,
trials and retrials until the energy workings are grokked.

[Unified Serenity]

Hey Arrowwind,

I have zero problems with researchers and writers charging for a book. I have no problem with a psychic or energy workers charging to help someone on their path. Some give their lives to developing skills few in society bother to try to develop but want the results of such dedication by those who give decades to learning how energy works. Most never grasp the true meaning of what you said,

He told me that the possibilities were endless
that all true wisdom was free and would come to you if you but asked for it.

that was when I learned about the power of the old biblical saying,,, ask and you shall receive, knock and it shall be opened.
All the things of most worth that I have learned cost nothing or next to nothing.

They don't receive because they do not ask or the ask with wrong intentions which is a divided heart imho. Only by pure focused desire that fulfills the highest need will people walk in that way. I have seen it happen many times, and I have experienced it myself. My issue with DW is his fruit does not equate to what he preaches, and it brings into the open for us to examine ourselves and our motives. None are so pure in this world to be without some fault. The issue I have is when every time someone who has proven not to walk the talk opens their mouth and others run and repeat it like its some great thing. Drake won't be the last to create drama by proclaiming some false information. DW won't be the last to repeat others work and try to take the glory and portray themselves as above debate. When was the last time DW talked with someone who disagreed with him and challenged him to answer questions and such? I've never seen him answer anyone's questions about his past. If it's out there, please post the link.

[Lettherebelight]

I'm still trying to work out what they mean by 'ascension'....actually, I'm not really.

I think it means different things to different people...

--awakening of consciousness
--learning more about everything
--changing dimensions
--going to heaven
--just going off planet
--using an escalator

...and probably many others!

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
Hey Arrowwind,

They don't receive because they do not ask or the ask with wrong intentions which is a divided heart imho. Only by pure focused desire that fulfills the highest need will people walk in that way. I have seen it happen many times, and I have experienced it myself..

And this is largley the crux of the whole matter. Learning how to ask for what has been taught to us as impossible to ask for is a task in and of itself. It does take a shift... an ascension, if you will. But I will warn that if one asks for what will damage another then Karma will weild a heavy hand one way or another. DW, I suspect does not ask correctly nor without a divided heart. If you ask and do not get what you think you should and then start manipulating the gift that you did get, you will never get what your highest self seeks. Learning how to recognize what comes to you for what it is is a part of the equation. If you ask for lofty things how can you expect to recognize them when they come since you have not had lofty things before? One must learn to see what is before their eyes... and again, this is another slice of personal evolution to experience and know.

[Sebastion]

Methinks I would be mildly surprised if we had a majority of people on this forum agreeing on exactly what the ascension is. This word gets bandied about like everyone knows exactly what it is.....

Posted by Lettherebelight (here)
I'm still trying to work out what they mean by 'ascension'....actually, I'm not really.

I think it means different things to different people...

--awakening of consciousness
--learning more about everything
--changing dimensions
--going to heaven
--just going off planet
--using an escalator

...and probably many others!

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Lettherebelight (here)
I'm still trying to work out what they mean by 'ascension'....actually, I'm not really.

I think it means different things to different people...

--awakening of consciousness
--learning more about everything
--changing dimensions
--going to heaven
--just going off planet
--using an escalator

...and probably many others!

Ascension believe is based on individuals programing largely or by direct spiritual understanding, therefor it is different for everyone.

Ascension, to me is any level or part of spiritual evolution either within this body you have or while leaving the body you have.
People who are attached to thinking they must leave the planet think that ascension is the evolving of the spirit out of the body
into another heavely realm or dimension or parallel reality. To me, all people clearly ascend when they die for they must therefore dwell in the realm of spirit even if they dont recognize or comprehend it. They make it into what they believe, not necessarily their highest potential

to understand this idea I strongly recommend the movie "What Dreams May Come" with Robin Williams.

[Unified Serenity]

From the moment we are born we begin ascending. From the moment we are born we begin dying. Dying to self to me is the highest spiritual attainment. I believe, even though I dislike the Apostle Paul that he did share many deep spiritual truth, that is what he meant when he said he had learned to be content in all things whether in full or in lack. I also believe that is the purpose of our souls incarnating in the physical world to learn selfless love. To spiritually evolve / ascend to understand what true love, joy, beauty, peace are one must come through a crucible of fire which one has many experiences to appreciate those virtues.

Love your enemies and be kind to them for it is as heaping burning coals upon their heads for what does it matter that you love those who love you, nay rather love those who persecute you, revile you and say evil of you. This is a deep spiritual truth. We can only be who we currently are and that is created by our experiences and our choices in how to respond to events. The moment we choose the lower path is the moment we stop ascending. Taking the high road is most difficult for it is very narrow and you will find few friends on that path, but those whom you do find are true soul mates.

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

Since this thread is about David Wilcock, we must use his own definition of ascension, otherwise we´ll go off-topic:

"The 3D body and brain does not have the "bandwidth" to handle anywhere near the amount of energy required to run a fourth-density body, never mind the Higher Self. This is why the transition into a fourth-density body, which we call "Ascension," necessitates the transmutation of the physical body."

"Ascension is not simply restricted to an idea like the Christians' saying there is going to be this "rapture," where Jesus comes back and ushers in a thousand years of peace. It's a cosmic event, and has been prophesied in almost every major religious and spiritual tradition that has existed on the face of the Earth."

"What we are leading to is that the entire energy of the Solar System is increasing, and that at some point, it will reach a level where it will transmute all life on the planet. That is when Ascension will be manifest."

"...after this Ascension process has completed; a world without poverty, hunger or pain; a world where full-body levitation, spontaneous healings, instant telepathic communication, and abundant Love are the law of the land."

"You have to leave behind the physical life in order to participate in the Ascension."

Source: http://divinecosmos.com/component/content/53?task=view

So, his view is basically a physical transmutation of matter at both individual and cosmic levels, which will transform humans into another different being, enabling skills like levitation, healing, telepathic communication, etc...

The big question is: Will it happen this year, like most 2012 researchers are claiming?

There´s a deadline involved, just like the year 2000, so we will all know after the end of this year.

Then there will be no need for speculation and we will be able to definitively tell who is lying and who is telling the truth.

As I´ve said before, I don´t believe for a second that it will happen, but if it does, I promise to publicly apologize for my lack of faith and skeptic position.

If it doesn´t happen, I wont accept any sort of excuses trying to justify why it didn´t happen, because, in this case, you can be absolutely sure that some folks will come up with the most fantastic excuses.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Sebastion]

I am wondering what the major definition or prominent definition of ascension actually is/means for 2012? I don't see any major agreement on just exactly what that is.....How can we talk about it if it hasn't been clearly defined on what exactly it is we are talking about to start with?

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
From the moment we are born we begin ascending. From the moment we are born we begin dying. Dying to self to me is the highest spiritual attainment. I believe, even though I dislike the Apostle Paul that he did share many deep spiritual truth, that is what he meant when he said he had learned to be content in all things whether in full or in lack. I also believe that is the purpose of our souls incarnating in the physical world to learn selfless love. To spiritually evolve / ascend to understand what true love, joy, beauty, peace are one must come through a crucible of fire which one has many experiences to appreciate those virtues.

Love your enemies and be kind to them for it is as heaping burning coals upon their heads for what does it matter that you love those who love you, nay rather love those who persecute you, revile you and say evil of you. This is a deep spiritual truth. We can only be who we currently are and that is created by our experiences and our choices in how to respond to events. The moment we choose the lower path is the moment we stop ascending. Taking the high road is most difficult for it is very narrow and you will find few friends on that path, but those whom you do find are true soul mates.

[Arrowwind]

But that is DWs view and not necessarily accurate. Certainly not my point of view. I do think ascended beings have lived and dwelled in the flesh here on this planet and of course he contradicts himself by first saying it is not possible to manage a 4th density body here on the planet and then saying. Why should I accept his definition when I accept little else of his? Ascension, like United Serenity says is an ever on going process, even if we choose not to recognize it... even if we thwart it.

"...after this Ascension process has completed; a world without poverty, hunger or pain; a world where full-body levitation, spontaneous healings, instant telepathic communication, and abundant Love are the law of the land."

"You have to leave behind the physical life in order to participate in the Ascension."

Clearly there have been very highly evolved people on the planet that do all this stuff. A world without poverty or hunger? in order to note the difference we would need bodies, no?

I am not saying that what he says is not in part possible but I do not think that we have to die. Nor do I think that we need planetary or cosmic changes to make it all happen. this is what all the great teachers, all the great masters, all the great yogi's have been demonstrating for ages. Why should I accept DWs limited belief system?




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[sunnyrap]

I like William Henry's explanation of the whole ascension/light body question: http://www.unknowncountry.com/revelations/latest
http://www.williamhenry.net/

His material is always factual (based on ancient writings and his own direct experiences) and fascinating. Check him out.

[RMorgan]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
But that is DWs view and not necessarily accurate.

Hi my friend,

I´m not saying his view of ascension is accurate or not.

This whole matter of ascension is very subjective and debating about its possibilities will not take us anywhere.

However, if the point of this thread is to debate about him and his claims, we must use his terms, otherwise we´ll just go off-topic.

Besides, there´s a clear deadline involved here, which is 2012, enabling us to take concrete, tangible conclusions out of it.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Sebastion]

Thanks for posting that as I was wondering what david's definition was....

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
But that is DWs view and not necessarily accurate.

Hi my friend,

I´m not saying his view of ascension is accurate or not.

This whole matter of ascension is very subjective and debating about its possibilities will not take us anywhere.

However, if the point of this thread is to debate about him and his claims, we must use his terms, otherwise we´ll just go off-topic.

Besides, there´s a clear deadline involved here, which is 2012, enabling us to take concrete, tangible conclusions out of it.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Arrowwind]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
But that is DWs view and not necessarily accurate.

Hi my friend,

I´m not saying his view of ascension is accurate or not.

This whole matter of ascension is very subjective and debating about its possibilities will not take us anywhere.

However, if the point of this thread is to debate about him and his claims, we must use his terms, otherwise we´ll just go off-topic.

Besides, there´s a clear deadline involved here, which is 2012, enabling us to take concrete, tangible conclusions out of it.

Cheers,

Raf.

I disagree. I will not confine myself to what I consider inaccurate terms. His definations all support his structure which I feel is in error. So If I am to reveal him as I SEE HIM that can only be done through my vision and my persepective on reality. I use my own widsom and experience to navigate the world not his, which is what I believe to be a fabricated story woven to support his illusions. In a sense I view him as quite delusional.