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    I can honestly say I do not follow DW that closely because the things he says just do not resonate with me. What struck me as odd was this post http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post493404 DW claimed to be the reincarnation of Rasputin, a man that died in 1916. DW also claims to be the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce (born in 1877 - died in 1945). How can he possibly be the reincarnation of both men? Edgar Cayce was born before Rasputin died and died 29 years after. If I didn't have a problem with DW before knowing this, I certainly would have a problem now.
    There are those who believe that parallel lifetimes are possible and you or I or anyone really can be having an alternate life in a different body somewhere on this planet at this very moment. I dont have a firm opinon on this but I suspect it as a possibility a component of the souls presence within the realm of infinity and infinite possibilities
    yes, to complicate matters even further, Micheal newton, in his hypnotism work regarding 'life between lives' (thousands of hypnotic sessions in this subject area) has received reports that a given soul, if 'learned' enough, ie, largish amount of energetic capacity, that soul may live two lives at the same time. Overlaps, etc.

    I neither disagree or agree, I'm only adding to the situation regarding that 'if one is not there in the specific place, then how can one pass judgement?'


    As well, judgement is a fools game.... it anchors one in the self lies of their own past and disallows any further growth.

    Most seriously, this is true... judgment is about as foolish an enterprise that one can engage in.
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    DW claimed to be the reincarnation of Rasputin, a man that died in 1916. DW also claims to be the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce (born in 1877 - died in 1945). How can he possibly be the reincarnation of both men? Edgar Cayce was born before Rasputin died and died 29 years after.

    DW has probably found a way to circumvent this little logical problem

    after all he managed to reincarnate a century before time as prophesied by Cayce himself

    he must be the impossibile man ; )
    Only we look at time as lineal, and time is actually spherical. All that is, exists in the present and always has been and always will be. The only animation is form and transform, which is done with a collective intention and held together like a hologram.

    So, as long as people view time as linear and see reality from the perspective of the bible, their view will be very limited and primitive. All timelines and all lifetimes are happening right now in this present moment.
    Hey folks,

    About reincarnation, I think it´s a very complex subject.

    Anyone can believe to be a reincarnation of someone else. The fact is, that it´s either impossible to prove it or disprove it, initially.

    My alarms start ringing whenever someone claims to be the reincarnation of someone very famous, in David Wilcock´s case, two very famous and mystical characters, like Cayce and Rasputin.

    If DW was an engineer or lawyer, I wouldn´t care about these claims.

    However, since he´s involved basically with a similar line of work of these two persons from the past, it looks to me that he might be just trying to absorb their reputation to increase his own credibility.

    Also, I don´t think that, in order to be the reincarnation of someone, you have to actually physically look like that person. Reincarnation is about the soul, not the body, right?

    DW tried to force the idea of being the reincarnation of Cayce, by using photographic techniques to look similar to him, while, in fact, if we look to DW and Cayce from other angles, they don´t even look similar.

    The fact is that, if anyone who is the reincarnation of someone else, was physically similar to his previous reincarnation, none of us would look like our mothers and fathers.

    Our appearance is completely dictated by genetic inheritance and, David Wilcock, looks a lot like his father, not Cayce.

    Also, another thing that makes the alarms ring for me, is that DW thinks all his family and closest friends are the reincarnation of someone really famous, as you can see in this thread:

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post732502653

    His best friend is supposed to be the reincarnation of Morton Blumenthal (Morton Blumenthal was heavily involved in Cayce’s work, using his readings to win in the stock market):



    His father is supposed to be the reincarnation of General Denikin:



    His brother is supposed to be the reincarnation of Grand Duke Dmitri Pavlovich:



    So, according to DW, no one close to him is the reincarnation of Joe the plumber, or Jim the caretaker, or Ted the mechanic...

    For me, making such connections with physical appearance and reincarnation is complete nonsense, specially when actually there´s not any relevant physical similarity.

    If there´s any foundation in this theory, how about famous people doubles? Are they actually soul mates?

    Cheers,

    Raf.
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    Default Re: David Wilcock's False Predictions

    Curiously enough... David also has a BA in Psychology.

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    I agree Raf, When you examine the reincarnation phenomena everyone used to be someone famous and not the plumber or seamstress. Its always "I used to be someone important so now its o.k. for me to co-opt their entire personality and appearance." Always interesting is the anger that is expressed by the reincarnated Jesus or St. Germain when you tell them that you don't believe it. Always anger like they are astounded that you don't believe something like this. That is how the occult works you get someone to start repeating your outrageous b.s.

    I once saw a documentary about Aleister Crowley in which he was walking with a journalist and telling him how he could control the actions of anyone. To demonstrate he pointed out the man walking in front of him and began to imitate his gate. Then Crowley intentionally stumbles and low and behold the man in front of him falls down as well. The journalist is impressed with Crowley's paranormal abilities and writes an article that convinces thousands of his psychic abilities.

    The reality of this scenario likely involved Crowley calling a member of his order and telling him to wait at a given place and start walking in front of them as they approach. "Then wait about thirty seconds and stumble and fall." That's how easy it is people and we constantly eat up this crap sandwich that is handed to us while the real crimes are going on right under our noses. All of this b.s. is set up for a specific reason and they have us all chasing our tales around wonder about this load of garbage that is being presented to us.

    Yes I have my own outrageous ideas as well but I always say "possible" "maybe" "given the facts may be true" etc.

    I think in a past life I was the dooman at the Sands in Vegas during its gangster heyday. Or maybe I was a lower caste sewer cleaner in Mumbai.

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    Curiously enough... David also has a BA in Psychology.
    Say no more that is the capper. With a B.A. in psychology this is the only job Wilcock can get.

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    I agree Raf, When you examine the reincarnation phenomena everyone used to be someone famous and not the plumber or seamstress. Its always "I used to be someone important so now its o.k. for me to co-opt their entire personality and appearance." Always interesting is the anger that is expressed by the reincarnated Jesus or St. Germain when you tell them that you don't believe it. Always anger like they are astounded that you don't believe something like this. That is how the occult works you get someone to start repeating your outrageous b.s.

    I once saw a documentary about Aleister Crowley in which he was walking with a journalist and telling him how he could control the actions of anyone. To demonstrate he pointed out the man walking in front of him and began to imitate his gate. Then Crowley intentionally stumbles and low and behold the man in front of him falls down as well. The journalist is impressed with Crowley's paranormal abilities and writes an article that convinces thousands of his psychic abilities.

    The reality of this scenario likely involved Crowley calling a member of his order and telling him to wait at a given place and start walking in front of them as they approach. "Then wait about thirty seconds and stumble and fall." That's how easy it is people and we constantly eat up this crap sandwich that is handed to us while the real crimes are going on right under our noses. All of this b.s. is set up for a specific reason and they have us all chasing our tales around wonder about this load of garbage that is being presented to us.

    Yes I have my own outrageous ideas as well but I always say "possible" "maybe" "given the facts may be true" etc.

    I think in a past life I was the dooman at the Sands in Vegas during its gangster heyday. Or maybe I was a lower caste sewer cleaner in Mumbai.

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    Curiously enough... David also has a BA in Psychology.
    Say no more that is the capper. With a B.A. in psychology this is the only job Wilcock can get.
    And I've been known to speak in other people's heads. In broad daylight. live waking situations.

    What say you?

    If your circle of logic is too small, your circle of view is too small, your circle of comfort is too small...you will believe what is in front of you.... and then you will find yourself corralled by someone else's larger circle of logic.
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    Default Re: David Wilcock's False Predictions

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    I agree Raf, When you examine the reincarnation phenomena everyone used to be someone famous and not the plumber or seamstress. Its always "I used to be someone important so now its o.k. for me to co-opt their entire personality and appearance." Always interesting is the anger that is expressed by the reincarnated Jesus or St. Germain when you tell them that you don't believe it. Always anger like they are astounded that you don't believe something like this. That is how the occult works you get someone to start repeating your outrageous b.s.

    I once saw a documentary about Aleister Crowley in which he was walking with a journalist and telling him how he could control the actions of anyone. To demonstrate he pointed out the man walking in front of him and began to imitate his gate. Then Crowley intentionally stumbles and low and behold the man in front of him falls down as well. The journalist is impressed with Crowley's paranormal abilities and writes an article that convinces thousands of his psychic abilities.

    The reality of this scenario likely involved Crowley calling a member of his order and telling him to wait at a given place and start walking in front of them as they approach. "Then wait about thirty seconds and stumble and fall." That's how easy it is people and we constantly eat up this crap sandwich that is handed to us while the real crimes are going on right under our noses. All of this b.s. is set up for a specific reason and they have us all chasing our tales around wonder about this load of garbage that is being presented to us.

    Yes I have my own outrageous ideas as well but I always say "possible" "maybe" "given the facts may be true" etc.

    I think in a past life I was the dooman at the Sands in Vegas during its gangster heyday. Or maybe I was a lower caste sewer cleaner in Mumbai.

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    Curiously enough... David also has a BA in Psychology.
    Say no more that is the capper. With a B.A. in psychology this is the only job Wilcock can get.
    And I've been known to speak in other people's heads. In broad daylight. live waking situations.

    What say you?

    If your circle of logic is too small, your circle of view is too small, your circle of comfort is too small...you will believe what is in front of you.... and then you will find yourself corralled by someone else's larger circle of logic.
    Then you should know what I'm thinking right now. I guess you write threads and replies here just as a matter of courtesy because you really don't need words do you?

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    Being flippant will get you nowhere.
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    Let me clarify.

    You are touching on an area where you get the entire package, or none of it.

    people come to these threads, and they come to such things (situations)...as they desire answers they desire forward motion, in some sort of unformed fashion that involves the depths of their emotions on what is 'right and correct' to them.

    Ie, does one believe in psychic sensitivity?

    Or not?

    For if it is a thing one 'believes' in, then how can one then... place a limit on what it is and what it erupts... from?

    What.. limit? a border? a definition that keeps it away from the self and then 'safe' to view, from that distance?

    If you open that door, it is Pandora box, and the damn thing explodes..... it does not merely open a inch or two and then let some minor comforts and minimal ideas out.....that lightly massage the mind and thinking.

    If one is honest with themselves, that if they feel that any of this is true, then one is truly going to be a fish out of water in any way one can imagine.

    For a while, the floundering would be and is extreme.

    And if one does not understand this, then their capacity for logic (thought form), which is rooted in the body's deepest responses, ie, cascades out of emotions..then one is lying to themselves.

    And then..understand that the lie is a self block from the core, created by emotions. (emotions are more potent than logic's canvas, they are the guardians of the avatar's safety/continuance. But they can be put to rest, so they are no longer in charge. It's that moment of clarity, at the deathbed--when the body finally lets go. The trick is to have that clarity one's ENTIRE remaining life. THAT, boys and girls, is the core point of 'illumination'. )

    All readers of this post do, on the deepest level, understand that this is true.... but very few, if any of you ....will ever take it on in the hard and real sense, and try to move past it.

    Your mind will drive you away from it, it will stop any further rumination from taking place.

    You won't evolve.

    You'll block yourself from doing it or even recalling that any depth of it ---exists.

    And that is the core component of your downfall.
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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    If David Wilcock is the reincarnation of RA and actually wrote the Law of One, then wouldn't he know what he's talking about since it is imbedded in his very DNA?
    If I remember correctly David never said he was the reincarnation of RA, I believe he said he was from the social memory complex of RA. I think a lot of people confuse that information.
    ........where being the BLACK SHEEP, isn't the exception, it's the rule!

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    In his documentary The 2012 Enigma-viewed more than two million times- David Wilcock exposed many great secrets: DNA, consciousness science, wormholes, stargate travel, sacred geometry, three-dimensional time, the Mayan calendar, and much more. And in this book, his seminal work, he'll expose even more.

    source: http://www.amazon.com/The-Source-Fie.../dp/0525952047


    Raf.
    This is so laughable. I did watch some of that 2012 Egnima conference a few years ago but could not gag my whole way through it.

    so he exposed many great secrets eh?
    Those secrets were discussed in the halls of science and metaphysics when he was in diapers and dealing with pubescent acne....
    He's merely a spin master for those who have not bothered to think these issues through on their own.




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    David Wilcock has a very high intellect, and an exceptional ability to collect, store, recall, and synthesize information — and present it in a smooth, articulate way that engages his audience, whether in writing or audio/video/live. This has on many occasions done the alternative community a great service.

    He has also on several occasions been a valuable friend, though I have not seen or spoken with him since the last Awake and Aware conference in September 2011. (I wanted to meet with him privately after the conference, and wrote to him to that effect, but he did not reply and has not contacted me since. I was disappointed.)


    The other side of David’s personality is that he sees himself as an I’ll-save-Planet-Earth-on-my-own messiah, and his ego has been growing steadily year on year to a degree now when many, including Kerry and myself, find it uncomfortable to listen to him. His worldview has grown to become primarily self-centered, self-interested and self-promotional.

    He is rarely able to admit being wrong; he is not as brave, stable or centered as he would like people to think he is; and his sources include three that Kerry and I at Project Camelot have now rejected as at least to some degree unreliable. (He has frequently irritated Kerry and myself by using Camelot witnesses, and source material, without crediting us as being the prime source of a significant amount of his information. He tends to be very territorial and competitive about his sources; Kerry and I have shared ours freely with him, but he has rarely reciprocated.)

    To Kerry’s credit, she has rarely spoken as openly about him as I am doing now. But I think these things need to be said.


    My personal view is that he is being played, in a clever handy-dandy-multi-purpose psy-op PART of which is intended to discredit him. I have not talked with Kerry recently about this (although I can guess her stance). David was way too quick to jump on the Drake nonsense, and I’m as sure as I can be that this was engineered, with or without Drake’s awareness.

    One by one, moves are being made to discredit the key alternative media spokespeople. Take a moment to see it all from this point of view. It’s very ingenious, and very dangerous.


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    Your mind will drive you away from it, it will stop any further rumination from taking place.

    You won't evolve.

    You'll block yourself from doing it or even recalling that any depth of it ---exists.

    And that is the core component of your downfall.
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    In his documentary The 2012 Enigma-viewed more than two million times- David Wilcock exposed many great secrets: DNA, consciousness science, wormholes, stargate travel, sacred geometry, three-dimensional time, the Mayan calendar, and much more. And in this book, his seminal work, he'll expose even more.

    source: http://www.amazon.com/The-Source-Fie.../dp/0525952047


    Raf.
    This is so laughable. I did watch some of that 2012 Egnima conference a few years ago but could not gag my whole way through it.

    so he exposed many great secrets eh?
    Those secrets were discussed in the halls of science and metaphysics when he was in diapers and dealing with pubescent acne....
    He's merely a spin master for those who have not bothered to think these issues through on their own.



    You have to understand, many of us are not exposed to the "halls of science". Many of us were not awake then. We all learn differently and not from the same source which is why David has filled a niche. Higher consciousness is taking place and more and more people are beginning to pay attention to things they wouldn't have looked at many years ago. So regardless of whether David discovered the science or not, he has helped many of us open our eyes to studies that we didn't know existed.

    We're not all going to think the same way and get our information from the same resources, that's just how it is. And there will be many more David's now and in the future whether it be on this planet or another for the very same reasons.
    ........where being the BLACK SHEEP, isn't the exception, it's the rule!

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    Default Re: David Wilcock's False Predictions

    People believe in psychic sensitivity to suit themselves. Psychic , regardless that the sheeple like to believe in it as means of foretelling the future, means exactly what the word implies--Pertaining to the psyche. The word got re-programmed to mean something else.

    Co-opting another's personality is possession--the primary function of archonic energies.

    One becomes a parasite in human form that way. That David is influenced and has the personality type most prone to influence is obvious. Only the deeply insecure would attempt to assume someone else's identity. His obvious lack of self acceptance is not very well masked by making these declarations.

    David isn't the target here, it's Cayce.

    The first thing I would examine is ...what is about Cayce that is primarily beneficial?

    In the all the Atlantis and predictive events hoopla (not realizing the function of a psychic is NOT to make predictive events--David's obviated blunder not even understanding what his own self description means)

    He helped thousands of people cure themselves of various ailments using naturally occurring products.

    This is where most of his important work was at. Thosands of examples of readings as compared to his remarks on Atlantis and predictive events that were of a collective nature.

    He didn't try to figure out the dynamics of what he was doing, he just went to sleep and allowed.

    This information came from within himself while asleep.

    David gloms other's research up to fit to whatever best suits his world view.

    Cayce was not personally engaged in his channeling but it occurred in a state of awareness, not consciousness.

    Now what is important about Cayce, what is so threatening about him that David could be influenced to ASSUME Cayce's identity and mangle it to the point that anything that Cayce put out there that made irrelevant and irreverent.

    Irreverence is a key program at work here. David has assumed a persona in an irreverent way. A way to make someone who bore some vital importance (which was primarily a means of allowing people to heal themselves) so that its lost in the flotsam and jetsam of his prattling wake.

    Conversely when David is not treated reverently people get their knickers in a wad because they are playing right into this program.

    The actual target here is Edgar Cayce, not David Wilcocks. He's the just the media , the weapon, the means of distorting the issue.

    On a more personal level.

    Even after those members of the Cayce's family 1) denied that he was Cayce (who was a humble man, a proclaimed to be in service to God unlike David who seldom refers to God in a personal way) 2) Cayce's family asked David to please tone down using Cayce to credentialize himself when the plants of his labor bore no fruit, David willfully kept doing just that.

    Out of decency to the family you'd think he'd back down from this , instead he exploits it thinking he has a right to because "he is Cayce."

    He now owns Cacyce .

    David provides his own evidence.

    Excuse the rest of us for examining it.

    Jorr made an interesting point lately about all personality and no presence.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    One by one, moves are being made to discredit the key alternative media spokespeople. Take a moment to see it all from this point of view. It’s very ingenious, and very dangerous.
    Hey Bill,

    I partially agree with you.

    There might be some sort of psy-ops to discredit him and other folks withing the alternative scenario.

    However, if you analyze this thread from the begining, from an unbiased point of view, you´ll see that David Wilcock has done a great job to discredit himself as well.

    As always, a highly inflated Ego can be our greatest enemy, which might be the case here.

    Usually, people with excess of self-confidence are the ones who make the biggest and most serious mistakes, and, if one of these mistakes happens to be the foundation of a work, well, the whole work might become compromised, just like a simple mistake can lead to an erroneous result while solving a mathematical equation.

    One can´t build a solid house (work) without first building a solid foundation (mind).

    If one tries to build a house above sand, without preparing the proper foundation for it, the whole house will eventually collapse, sooner or later...

    I believe this is what this case is all about...

    Cheers,

    Raf.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    David Wilcock has a very high intellect, and an exceptional ability to collect, store, recall, and synthesize information — and present it in a smooth, articulate way that engages his audience, whether in writing or audio/video/live. This has on many occasions done the alternative community a great service.

    He has also on several occasions been a valuable friend, though I have not seen or spoken with him since the last Awake and Aware conference in September 2011. (I wanted to meet with him privately after the conference, and wrote to him to that effect, but he did not reply and has not contacted me since. I was disappointed.)


    The other side of David’s personality is that he sees himself as an I’ll-save-Planet-Earth-on-my-own messiah, and his ego has been growing steadily year on year to a degree now when many, including Kerry and myself, find it uncomfortable to listen to him. His worldview has grown to become primarily self-centered, self-interested and self-promotional.

    He is rarely able to admit being wrong; he is not as brave, stable or centered as he would like people to think he is; and his sources include three that Kerry and I at Project Camelot have now rejected as at least to some degree unreliable. (He has frequently irritated Kerry and myself by using Camelot witnesses, and source material, without crediting us as being the prime source of a significant amount of his information. He tends to be very territorial and competitive about his sources; Kerry and I have shared ours freely with him, but he has rarely reciprocated.)

    To Kerry’s credit, she has rarely spoken as openly about him as I am doing now. But I think these things need to be said.


    My personal view is that he is being played, in a clever handy-dandy-multi-purpose psy-op PART of which is intended to discredit him. I have not talked with Kerry recently about this (although I can guess her stance). David was way too quick to jump on the Drake nonsense, and I’m as sure as I can be that this was engineered, with or without Drake’s awareness.

    One by one, moves are being made to discredit the key alternative media spokespeople. Take a moment to see it all from this point of view. It’s very ingenious, and very dangerous.

    Thank you, Bill. That is also my conclusion.

    That his prominence brought him to a point of notice where serious attempts at using him and discrediting him would then be squarely on the table.... as active and working considerations.

    The moment that source field book entered the situation, regarding widespread distribution and any reading of it.... the teardown and discrediting, the false witnesses, the bodies provided, etc....all of that sort of thing would move into high gear.

    That's how it works, folks.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    [My personal view is that he is being played, in a clever handy-dandy-multi-purpose psy-op PART of which is intended to discredit him. I have not talked with Kerry recently about this (although I can guess her stance). David was way too quick to jump on the Drake nonsense, and I’m as sure as I can be that this was engineered, with or without Drake’s awareness.

    One by one, moves are being made to discredit the key alternative media spokespeople. Take a moment to see it all from this point of view. It’s very ingenious, and very dangerous.
    Being played?

    Does that mean that DW has no personal responsibility? he is a pawn? He has no self determiniation, no ethics? no standards? just a user of others for his own gain? prompted on by those playing him? he is controlled unwhittingly?

    If this is true than I fully stand by every word I have said about him, not that I didn't before.

    Clearly if this is true he has no guts and no fortitude to stand up to the forces that he exposes as evil and cannot be trusted for one single second. That he would use those who have tried to serve him and share with him is dispicable. I am truely sorry to hear that.

    Sounds like he is discrediting himself to me. He needs no help. Its all in the choices he makes. He is responsible. How weak of a soul could he possibly be?

    ..... and where does being played come in when one makes false predictions, prophecy, that does not ever pan out anyway? he did this on his own and uses it to sell materials

    In my view he stood discredited long before the sourse field was out there.
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    And I add:

    My point is that it does not matter if a alien struts across the road in front of you, or staggers across from gunshot wounds, or prances across in a ballerina's dress. the main point is that an alien crossed the road in front of you.

    You've got someone out there doing the kind of job that needs to be done, in at least some fashion, and you are dumb enough to try and tear him down.

    I repeat. dumb enough.

    I repeat. dumb enough.

    selfish enough.

    Blind enough.

    Visionless.

    If you want to attack him and tear him down... then have the integrity to get out there and replace his value, in absolute concreteness and reality.

    Offer yourself, in reality as a target and get the job done as well as he has.

    If you can't and won't do that, then I'm not so sure (and nor should anyone else be) about your own value ---to yourself.
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    Being played?

    Does that mean that DW has no personal responsibility? he is a pawn? He has no self determiniation, no ethics? no standards? just a user of others for his own gain? prompted on by those playing him? he is controlled unwhittingly?

    If this is true than I fully stand by every word I have said about him, not that I didn't before.

    Clearly if this is true he has no guts and no fortitude to stand up to the forces that he exposes as evil and cannot be trusted for one single second. That he would use those who have tried to serve him and share with him is dispicable. I am truely sorry to hear that.

    Sounds like he is discrediting himself to me. He needs no help. Its all in the choices he makes. He is responsible. How weak of a soul could he possibly be?

    ..... and where does being played come in when one makes false predictions, prophecy, that does not ever pan out anyway? he did this on his own and uses it to sell materials

    In my view he stood discredited long before the sourse field was out there.
    Hi my friend,

    I agree with you.

    This is where things get philosophically complicated.

    A person who wants to be any sort of leader, can´t have the luxury of making mistakes.

    The bigger the power one may have to influence people, the bigger the responsibilities get.

    Could you imagine, as an example, if Jesus made a mistake while allowing himself to be crucified? Then, basically our whole culture would be based on a mistake.

    How about the current mess our world is right now? All of it is because people in high positions of influence made very serious mistakes.

    So, if someone wants to be a leader, he should be psychologically prepared for it, which includes at least a very high degree of control over the Ego.

    To sum up, in David Wilcok´s case, he might have been deliberately manipulated by external sources, but it doesn´t exempts him of his responsibilities over his actions and claims, since one of the most basic requirements for a person to be a leader, is to have the power of resisting external influences.

    Any person with a huge Ego is a very good candidate for becoming a puppet, but each one of us is responsible for controlling our own Ego in the first place.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Only we look at time as lineal, and time is actually spherical. All that is, exists in the present and always has been and always will be. The only animation is form and transform, which is done with a collective intention and held together like a hologram.

    So, as long as people view time as linear and see reality from the perspective of the bible, their view will be very limited and primitive. All timelines and all lifetimes are happening right now in this present moment.

    is this vetted by DW ?

    i don't want to jump to conclusions based on a hypothesis


    as it is reincarnation is an idea from the east

    and like the ancient Greeks

    there was a lot of thinking back then

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