David Wilcock's False Predictions

[RMorgan]

Posted by Camilo (here)
Predictions are only possibilities/probabilities, but events are constantly changing as well the mass consciousness continuously changes, changing the possibilities/probabilities. If the mass consciousness remained stagnant, perhaps the predictions would occur as predicted.

I agree Camilo,

However, I must say that predictions can cause a lot of damage.

History proves that many people have committed all sorts of stupidity based on predictions, including suicide.

Wilcock, for instance, when insisting in keep publishing materials that lead people to conformity, like he latest did with the "mass arrests" story, causes a lot of damage.

Whenever someone says something like "God is in charge. Get up out of that chair, crank up the music and let's dance our way into the Ascension", like he did back in the late nineties and still doing in several of his articles today, he´s filling people with false hope, which later leads to deception.

This attitude leads people into conformism, instead of pro-activism.

Raf.

Posted by ulli (here)

False is a strong word, too.
Like "slamming" it can lend itself to be interpreted in a variety of ways.

Until or unless you have evidence that David Wilcock is conspiring with an ill-intended elite to scam humanity with these alleged falsehoods
and take us all deeper into delusional states you can't really be sure, can you?
It is still possible that he is doing the only thing he can do.
After all, he is a Pisces and always has one foot in the other dimension where hard facts are not easy to come by.

It's just a matter of opening the mind a bit and allowing....allowing... allowing...
No harm done.

I can´t be sure about that indeed.

He could be deliberately lying for an unknown purpose or he could actually believe that he´s the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce and be suffering from messianic delusions.

Either way he´s lying, deliberately or not.

Raf.

[Kano]

The tone and mood of threads like these are anathema to the point of being here in the first place. Not disrespect to the OP as it was out of their hands.

I understand we all want to collaborate and learn as a group and that along the way emotions are heightened, but Carmody my friend, you are out of line. You have quite a following here which perhaps means you get away with more than the average poster, but you're being called out by me. I don't care who agrees with me and who does not.

The words you wrote carry a pain and self-loathing that could almost be tasted through the computer screen. Pompous word magic as it were.

Universal truth is not measured in mass appeal.

Kano

[Calz]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)

His book was excellent, the information was mostly not new, but never has the info been put together, tied together, and so well publicised. I don't see any value in following him like some guru, but likewise I see no profit in bashing him at every turn. Everybody will figure out what's what for themselves, at their own pace.

Of the last 20 (or 100 ... I lost track) Wilcock threads this resonated.

If you peeps want to take another 100 threads to hash that out then have at it ... I won't be here




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@ Carmody

yes

If you are going to malign him, keep in mind that his most recent book is a very serious bit of work, that is near flawless.

[Kimberley]

Most who know me know that I love David and his research and his spirit. I consider him to be a friend of mine... not a close best friend however I have talked with him face to face and on the phone with him for many hours over the past 5 years. I do not think of David as a guru...I have no gurus!! David has flaws and so do I and so do you all!!

I am not here to defend David and I am not wanting to change anyone's opinion of him. I am just speaking out to proclaim how much I love and appreciate David Wilcock.

I will also proclaim how much I love and appreciate everyone! However that does not mean I am friends with everyone or that I agree with everyone or that I like everyone, however I do love and appreciate everyone!

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I just want to make one note ... are you all taking any time to look at the fabulous work Sabrina has been doing on this thread?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ross-the-World

The title of the thread would be better if it added mass arrests to the title because it includes a lot of arrests that have been happening also...

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Hey if we all agreed on everything that would be boring... however when we can all agree to disagree and except each others difference with out criticizing and cursing and condemning and retaliating and spewing lower vibrating energies toward our brothers and sisters, we will have created peace on earth.

I am choosing to keep my focus on all that IS working well in the world and by doing that I know I create more of what is working well in the world.

Such as, I just started a thread about the Venus Transit June 5/6...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...s-significance

I welcome your contributions to that thread....

I/We/You Are ALL Creating The World You Want To Live In
With Each Thought, Word, And Emotion.

So I am here to remind you to be careful of what you are creating whether you believe you are creating it or not you are!!

Much love to us all

[DreamsInDigital]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

However, I must say that predictions can cause a lot of damage.

History proves that many people have committed all sorts of stupidity based on predictions, including suicide.

Wilcock, for instance, when insisting in keep publishing materials that lead people to conformity, like he latest did with the "mass arrests" story, causes a lot of damage.

Whenever someone says something like "God is in charge. Get up out of that chair, crank up the music and let's dance our way into the Ascension", like he did back in the late nineties and still doing in several of his articles today, he´s filling people with false hope, which later leads to deception.

This attitude leads people into conformism, instead of pro-activism.

Raf.

Raf,

Regardless of the predictions/possibilities/probabilities ANYONE makes, the nature of time it's self makes it impossible to know which ones will or will not be accurate, and how much variance each one will possess. Also, David and anyone else that makes a prediction/possibility/probability can NOT fairly and logically be held accountable for the actions people chose to take of their free wills as result of the predictions/possibilities/probabilities that are made. They do so of their free will react the way they chose to react. So, no..David is not a liar, neither is anyone else that makes predictions/possibilities/probabilities and misses. Anyone who understands the very nature of time and the universe it's self, and the existence of free will (and/or the pretentious illusion of it) would know and understand this. You are one of the most well grounded, logical people on this forum.

[Paul]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
[David Wilcock] changed his look by shaving off his beard and dying his hair blonde ...

Being easily amused, I tracked down a picture of the earlier David Wilcock look, from here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/36525916/D...nce-of-Oneness

[RMorgan]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
Raf,

Regardless of the predictions/possibilities/probabilities ANYONE makes, the nature of time it's self makes it impossible to know which ones will or will not be accurate, and how much variance each one will possess. Also, David and anyone else that makes a prediction/possibility/probability can NOT fairly and logically be held accountable for the actions people chose to take of their free wills as result of the predictions/possibilities/probabilities that are made. They do so of their free will react the way they chose to react. So, no..David is not a liar, neither is anyone else that makes predictions/possibilities/probabilities and misses. Anyone who understands the very nature of time and the universe it's self, and the existence of free will (and/or the pretentious illusion of it) would know and understand this. You are one of the most well grounded, logical people on this forum.

Hi my friend,

I agree with you, mate.

As I´ve said before, I have nothing against predictions. Not at all.

I´m against people who makes predictions and unfounded claims in order to attract attention, followers and to explore goodhearted people to make money.

The fact is that, people such as Wilcock, who has achieved a celebrity status, must be aware that their words reach a large audience and, then, be very careful with what they say, because a lot of people will take their words as granted. It´s called influence.

As uncle Ben said to Peter Parker, "with great power, comes great responsibilities"!

Cheers,

Raf.

[RMorgan]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by RMorgan (here)
[David Wilcock] changed his look by shaving off his beard and dying his hair blonde ...

Being easily amused, I tracked down a picture of the earlier David Wilcock look, from here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/36525916/D...nce-of-Oneness

Hey Paul,

He also claimed to be the reincarnation of Rasputin, according to this post, and:

"With the assistance of good angles and lighting he also likes to force his friends and family to pose like some of his favorite heroes of old (anyone of historical significance who bares a slight resemblance) Sure our world is getting worse and worse every year and desperately needs its savior but apparently the best the universe could come up with is David Wilcock and his team of super goofs to save the planet and herald in the new era."

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post732502653



And with this article:

http://truepastlifereadings.blogspot.com.br/

Cheers,

Raf.

[airaspect]

Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)

Posted by RMorgan (here)

However, I must say that predictions can cause a lot of damage.

History proves that many people have committed all sorts of stupidity based on predictions, including suicide.

Wilcock, for instance, when insisting in keep publishing materials that lead people to conformity, like he latest did with the "mass arrests" story, causes a lot of damage.

Whenever someone says something like "God is in charge. Get up out of that chair, crank up the music and let's dance our way into the Ascension", like he did back in the late nineties and still doing in several of his articles today, he´s filling people with false hope, which later leads to deception.

This attitude leads people into conformism, instead of pro-activism.

Raf.

Raf,

Regardless of the predictions/possibilities/probabilities ANYONE makes, the nature of time it's self makes it impossible to know which ones will or will not be accurate, and how much variance each one will possess. Also, David and anyone else that makes a prediction/possibility/probability can NOT fairly and logically be held accountable for the actions people chose to take of their free wills as result of the predictions/possibilities/probabilities that are made. They do so of their free will react the way they chose to react. So, no..David is not a liar, neither is anyone else that makes predictions/possibilities/probabilities and misses. Anyone who understands the very nature of time and the universe it's self, and the existence of free will (and/or the pretentious illusion of it) would know and understand this. You are one of the most well grounded, logical people on this forum.

DreamsInDigital,

If someone is mistaken time after time with his predictions, it's logical to assume that it's because said person had no real substance to back the assumptions up in the first place. Not because that is the nature of probability/possibility/free will and what not. We all can speculate on what is about to happen, but when someone puts it out in public as a prediction you would expect it to be more then just their hunch. DW seems like a nice guy and all, but I have to agree with RMorgan here.

[Calz]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by RMorgan (here)
[David Wilcock] changed his look by shaving off his beard and dying his hair blonde ...

Being easily amused, I tracked down a picture of the earlier David Wilcock look, from here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/36525916/D...nce-of-Oneness

Being even more easily amused ... out of disgust and angst I just threw away all my books, cds and videos of Wilcock.

How can anyone continue to give any credit whatsoever to him for being first to bring the data for solar system wide changes in temperature, brightness or color when it is quite clear from this image he is a complete fraud since he had the balls to change his hair color.

I look at his base work ... and there is truth there.

Whether or not *something happened* to cloud his take on current issues ... who knows?

Does that take away from connecting the concrete scientific dots he has over his life???

This has nothing to do with guru following ...

Yes some peeps who have a real hard on for trashing the guy suggest the data is not *his* ... yet he put it together into chunks that were much more accessible to many of us.

Is that a crime??? Shall we burn him now???

... again???

[K626]

This whole reincarnation craic of his cracks me up man...ha ha..High schtick for sure!

Peace

K


DWilcock

[SilentFeathers]

I, over the years have enjoyed some of his lectures but often catch myself scratching my head and disagreeing with him often, but there's a lot of head scratching I've been doing about him lately with this breaking down during an interview, endorsing Drake, and all this mass arrest hupla, etc......I'm sure he's a nice guy and all but I personally am rather suspicious about him lately. Perhaps he's all caught up in too much also like so many are, myself included.....there's a lot going on for most of us right now to digest without choking a little bit to say the least.

He probably believes in most of the stuff he preaches/shares with others, but does he doubt or know he's intentionally fooling others with certain stuff? Who knows but David himself.... I personally don't see the guy with horns and a pitch fork looking for victims, I just this he's rather odd and trying to make a dollar like most people. Doing what he believes he knows best.

If he's willfully and knowingly deceiving others for profit then he's no better than the cabal he talks about doing the same thing, but I think he is better than that. In many ways he's probably just as mislead as the rest of us or even more so, and probably has to deal with way too much info, but he is a bit "far out" there IMO. lol

Most of his work over the years I've taken what I felt made sense to me and discarded the rest.....

That's my take on it....

[WhiteFeather]

IMO David has done some great work in pushing consciousness forward. He had inspired me tremendously during my early awakening stages to say the least. David has done some extensive research and does his homework extremely well. I will standby and support him even though his dates and events did not become fruition. I still believe in his research and resonate with it enormously. Davids no slouch. We can learn alot from him. Graham Hancock endorses David in the first few pages of his inspiring book The Source Field Investigations which i suggest all to read. Davids on to something big, this im sure of intuitively. Not counting him out yet. We have much to learn from this young buck. Thanks David Awesome Job.

[REILLY]

Awww, Calz, I wouldna done all that.

Looking at Rasputin, nope that's not him, but I know who is, and his name is currently Micah. Uber Christian and full of angst and venom, but too lazy to do anything about it. He's really a great guy with exceptional integrity. I don't anticipate any avalonians giving this statement any creedence, but playdo, and that's cool.

[Calz]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
Awww, Calz, I wouldna done all that.

Looking at Rasputin, nope that's not him, but I know who is, and his name is currently Micah. Uber Christian and full of angst and venom, but too lazy to do anything about it. He's really a great guy with exceptional integrity. I don't anticipate any avalonians giving this statement any creedence, but playdo, and that's cool.

Ignored the last 20 or so threads because it was not worth engaging.

Lost my head

No days off this week and I was not able to sleep today ... I am *in* the mood!

[Sierra]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
Awww, Calz, I wouldna done all that.

Looking at Rasputin, nope that's not him, but I know who is, and his name is currently Micah. Uber Christian and full of angst and venom, but too lazy to do anything about it. He's really a great guy with exceptional integrity. I don't anticipate any avalonians giving this statement any creedence, but playdo, and that's cool.

Ignored the last 20 or so threads because it was not worth engaging.

Lost my head

No days off this week and I was not able to sleep today ... I am *in* the mood!

Uh oh! <ducking and running>

[WyoSeeker]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
... I´ll never read a book written by a man who is proved to be a liar and manipulator...

I appreciate the devil's advocate viewpoint because I believe it helps keep us all balanced, it would be more productive overall if you dropped the personal attacks though. This is a place for spirituality and personal growth, no?

In my view David's predictions are just as bad as everybody else's and he's done as much as anybody in contributing to many people's awakenings. He share's his truth from the heart and makes many mistakes just as we all do.

It's also unfair to begrudge him the right to earn an income from his efforts unless you want to condemn everyone who sells a book or goes on a speaking tour.

[foreverfan]

[REILLY]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Being even more easily amused ... out of disgust and angst I just threw away all my books, cds and videos of Wilcock.

To be clear, this is what was referencing when I said "Awww, Calz...."

[RMorgan]

Posted by WyoSeeker (here)

It's also unfair to begrudge him the right to earn an income from his efforts unless you want to condemn everyone who sells a book or goes on a speaking tour.

Hey mate!

No way! I´m not against people who write and sell books, or who make speaking tours and lectures.

I´m against people that deliberately tell lies beautifully disguised as truth.

I´m against people making prophecies to make money and achieve a spiritual guru status.

I´m against people who manipulate pictures in order to resemble a wise person from the past, in this case, Edgar Cayce, in order to falsely acquire his credibility.

I´m against people who sold the idea that ascension would happen in the year 2000, and then, when nothing happened, erased his footprints and changed the ascension date to 2012, in order to earn some more money.

Anyway, soon 2012 will be gone and most probably nothing extraordinary will happen. Then, we all will be able to see what these folks, specially Wilcock which is one of the biggest 2012 "prophets", will invent as an excuse.

If something extraordinary happens, and David Wilcock ends up being correct after all, I promise to publicly apologize for my lack of faith. You have my word for it. I´ll personally send him a letter of apologize.

Cheers,

Raf.