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    Who Fears?

    You’re half awake, with some sleep paralysis, and completely overwhelmed by a deep sense of fear, who is it that fears.

    You’re an multidimensional being that fears death?? why? how can that be?. You believe in a God and life after death, reincarnation, but you fear death?

    You will do atrocities as long as you are not the one to die, you fear oblivion, the dot stage, a blank, non existence, yet you spend all day being positive, relaying love to all, yet will not help people being robbed or raped, because you may die in an attempt to save someone. You fool yourself that you are all powerful being, a spirit having a human experience, yet you fear death.

    Your whole life is spent avoiding being killed by sickness, starvation, accidents.

    Who is it that fears death, is it the ego, the false one within, where is the watcher, the silent one, the everlasting spirit that resides, or is it just a mental construct that we experience, that we would kill to survive this experience, is it real, is it just a mind thing, then why fear death, or to die, wont you come back again, do you believe you will return, do you know that you will return, really, really, know.

    Why does the system rule you by all forms of fears, through lack of money fear, loosing somewhere to live fear, being incarcerated by the system, fearing a loss of living a short life, fear of loosing your freedom, this feeling that one has to live this experience before one dies, the fear of nothing after death, no proof anywhere, only near death experienced by others not yourself.

    Being treated like a piece of meat for thousands of years by a system that proposes God loves you and we the system will kill you if you don’t abide by their divine and holy rule, millions have paid the final price by the hand of man, possibly never to return, for how can you tell and intelligent human animal that this is it, and you have blowned it believing fantasises and nonsense for all of your life, while the system milks all of you till you bleed, and then dumps you in your twilight years forgotten and waiting to die.

    How much stupidity do you have to endure to wake up, and take charge of possibly the only time you can experience this illusion, never to return again, how dangerous would you be here if it was not for the BS brainwashing that you have endured all your life, till the day you die, they will have a very holy funeral for the living, more BS for the living showing respect for the dead, its for the living not for the dead, they have to keep the illusion of respect for the dead, for the living to believe in this nonsense. They have murdered and killed for thousands of years, then show false respect for sanctity of life.

    There is no sanctity of life it just more BS for you the intelligent stupid animal, who will believe anything that will save you from oblivion, they know how to play the BS game with their brainwashed slaves..................

    WHY DO YOU HAVE FEAR? Think it out.

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    Hi Roman,

    I am now reading the 'Handbook for the New Paradigm' by George Green. It is very interesting. I think this might help us get out of the 'pickle' that we have designed for ourselves here on this planet. I finished the books you had told us abut several months ago and I think this info from George Green is a good additional information.

    You can download his books free on his web site http://www.nohoax.com/

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    Great thread Roman!

    Why do I have fear? I don't know Fear is like a shadow, an integral part of this world. Fear is something that stimulate us to our maximum and test us very precisely.

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    I fear not dying more than I fear dying (I think).

    Death for me...that actually feels relieving when I think of it.

    It's the thought of going insane...an endless loop of mental torture that goes on and on...waking periodically for only seconds at a time to realize no time has passed at all...and I will never die. Trapped in the body forever. I've had this fear for quite some time (since at least age 12).

    About 18 months ago I had an ayahausca-like brew that gave me a very similar experience. What's commonly referred to as a 'bad trip'. For three hours I was in a torturous loop (both mental and physical pain). I had a few seconds where I would wake for a brief moment of peace only to realize I was in exactly the same time/space. And so the painful cycle would begin again...exactly as it had before.

    Thanks for letting me share. Probably time I take a closer look at it.
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    Recently I lost my fear of not having money. I just couldn't be without money and finally I made it. Stopped working for somebody else.

    Stopped being a consumer and started recycling used material for home use and now I have some veggies and fruit in my garden. Never thought I would be doing it.

    I don't think I fear death now, but I'm sure when the time comes I will feel it for sure.

    Cheers Roman
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    The same who loves.

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    What works for me in many cases, is that I look at what I fear at that moment and then I paint a picture with the worst possible outcome with that fear in it.

    So when I wake up at night with a fear constricted gut because I'm afraid of loosing our house, due to shortage of money.
    I just paint a picture where we are left without a house and no money.
    We are on the streets. And then I step into this fantasy and embrace it, without holding back.
    It is the acceptance part of the possible outcome that I fear, that will bring relieve and the 'knowing' that life is not about these things.

    Life is bigger, much bigger... Our beings are much much brighter and stronger then playing this fear game.
    That's the feeling and understanding that comes over me when I accept the worst possible outcome of my fear.

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    Quote Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
    Who Fears?

    There is no sanctity of life it just more BS for you the intelligent stupid animal, who will believe anything that will save you from oblivion, they know how to play the BS game with their brainwashed slaves..................

    WHY DO YOU HAVE FEAR? Think it out.

    roman
    Beautiful mate, well said.

    But you know what? The entire story is an illusion. As long as we believe what we see and we don't like it, and what we see isn't what's really there,
    there will be fear.
    But we see more clearly all the time.
    “Out beyond ideas of right doing and wrong doing there is a field. I'll meet you there.”
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    Quote Posted by Swanette (here)
    Hi Roman,

    I am now reading the 'Handbook for the New Paradigm' by George Green. It is very interesting. I think this might help us get out of the 'pickle' that we have designed for ourselves here on this planet. I finished the books you had told us abut several months ago and I think this info from George Green is a good additional information.

    You can download his books free on his web site http://www.nohoax.com/
    Hi Swanette

    Yes I know of George Green, I have had his books for a couple of years, checked it out and had not finished reading it, nor will I ever read it again, A money monger, suddenly having automatic writing from Aliens, changing your Paradigm to what?? another mental fantasy?? I would seriously challenge him on his mental stability, also Kettler who has come on the bandwagon with his "just a minute I am getting a message from them, they are answering me this very moment". Or the Bible bashers here, and the Koran bashers, all part of the same BS designed to keep you in cuckoo land, you will never find yourself with this nonsense mingling in your mind.

    Thank you and wish you well Swanette
    regards
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    You are what you think, is the ways we assume our reality here, which means that all of us are an open book to abuse and nonsense, playing with your power of belief masked as truth. When we catch on that all possibilities are right here in front of your face to the most dreadful distortions of what is, then you will begin to take some control of your life here, and not be open to folly and fantasy being bombarded to all of us on a daily basis.

    Check out the threads here, and notice where they are leading you too, a mostly road to nowhere, achieving confusion is the only result that one can get, its mostly hearsay, with no value to you, other than some entertaining interest that the mind can create, your life, your mind, your choice.

    I think that most of us have come to the conclusion that mind is responsible for all that is, knowing that we see that all is just a mind play that we accept or reject, it has no value other than your interest, a way of killing time, results will be in what you choose to believe.

    regards

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    Quote Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
    You are what you think, is the ways we assume our reality here, which means that all of us are an open book to abuse and nonsense, playing with your power of belief masked as truth. When we catch on that all possibilities are right here in front of your face to the most dreadful distortions of what is, then you will begin to take some control of your life here, and not be open to folly and fantasy being bombarded to all of us on a daily basis.

    Check out the threads here, and notice where they are leading you too, a mostly road to nowhere, achieving confusion is the only result that one can get, its mostly hearsay, with no value to you, other than some entertaining interest that the mind can create, your life, your mind, your choice.

    I think that most of us have come to the conclusion that mind is responsible for all that is, knowing that we see that all is just a mind play that we accept or reject, it has no value other than your interest, a way of killing time, results will be in what you choose to believe.

    regards

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    I wish there was a bigger public place to say this, but I think this is the single most important thread in the forum at the moment.

    Fear, and releasing fear from our bodies is the issue right now. There's nothing else going on. It looks potentially like Armageddon.
    And it might yet even become that.

    Is anyone willing for it to look like whatever it has to?
    “Out beyond ideas of right doing and wrong doing there is a field. I'll meet you there.”
    Rumi

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    You will die like a good little citizen obeying all the rules and all the segregation of borderlines that these in powers have established for your protection!!!!........The world is not free, it is ruled, your life is useless to them that poison the air that you breathe, poison your food that you eat, destroy the very thing that makes survival necessary to sustain life, create weathers management that destroys the very food that we require, creating the passport to freedom and experiencing life by the money in your pocket, the powerful money mongers now stating who will live and die, agenda, agendas, agendas, for your removal.

    There are cyclic climatic changes that this world and other planet go through periodically that's a secret that they have kept from the people for thousands of years, they are very busy trying to find the DNA clock that will sustain them with money to live beyond the cell division of 50 to 52 times within ones lifetime, falsehood upon falsehood is their their ways to the their law abiding citizen, a moron, a piece of consciousness that is worthless garbage to them, only good for manipulation, and sacrifice of their life's for a system that will sh** on you when you are of no use to them.

    When will we really realize that history is full of example of the masses being trodden by the select few, who raise themselves above all else, the stupidity of the human race is really beyond belief.

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    Hi Romanwkt and thanks for yet a new great post.

    I was blessed by the condition diabetes 10 years ago, yes I consider all I experience a blessing, good or bad.
    When your blood sugar level is real low you can end up in a coma and die, the experience you feel within yourself can be described as a emotional freefall.
    Before I would call for the paramedics because the fear of death, that's how strong these emotions of dying are when we really think we are about to die.

    Today I feel blessed to experience moments like this, I see it like a great opportunity to face these emotions.
    To look into the emotion of death, to taste and feel it.

    Only when you are willing to face your thoughts and emotions, the clearing can start, and only then can you get a peace of mind.



    ..8..
    Life just "IS", and we are all witness it unfold, through the expression of the believed separation, that creates everything we experience.

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    There is a gap between wot is and our ideas about how it ought to be.

    That gap is fear.


    All is well


    Jorr
    We are free, have always been. LOL

    There is no sharing.

    Im responible for wot I say, not wot you understand

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    Quote Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
    You will die like a good little citizen obeying all the rules and all the segregation of borderlines that these in powers have established for your protection!!!!........The world is not free, it is ruled, your life is useless to them that poison the air that you breathe, poison your food that you eat, destroy the very thing that makes survival necessary to sustain life, create weathers management that destroys the very food that we require, creating the passport to freedom and experiencing life by the money in your pocket, the powerful money mongers now stating who will live and die, agenda, agendas, agendas, for your removal.

    There are cyclic climatic changes that this world and other planet go through periodically that's a secret that they have kept from the people for thousands of years, they are very busy trying to find the DNA clock that will sustain them with money to live beyond the cell division of 50 to 52 times within once lifetime, falsehood upon falsehood is their their ways to the their law abiding citizen, a moron, a piece of consciousness that is worthless garbage to them, only good for manipulation, and sacrifice of their life's for a system that will sh** on you when you are of no use to them.

    When will we really realize that history is full of example of the masses being trodden by the select few, who raise themselves above all else, the stupidity of the human race is really beyond belief.

    regards
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    Thank you. I agree on most. Exept your ideas about my death.

    I plan to die in the winter, when its hard work to dig a hole and

    the flowers are expensive.


    All is well


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    We are free, have always been. LOL

    There is no sharing.

    Im responible for wot I say, not wot you understand

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    Quote Posted by <8> (here)
    Hi Romanwkt and thanks for yet a new great post.

    I was blessed by the condition diabetes 10 years ago, yes I consider all I experience a blessing, good or bad.
    When your blood sugar level is real low you can end up in a coma and die, the experience you feel within yourself can be described as a emotional freefall.
    Before I would call for the paramedics because the fear of death, that's how strong these emotions of dying are when we really think we are about to die.

    Today I feel blessed to experience moments like this, I see it like a great opportunity to face these emotions.
    To look into the emotion of death, to taste and feel it.

    Only when you are willing to face your thoughts and emotions, the clearing can start, and only then can you get a peace of mind.



    ..8..
    Hi 8

    I can understand, but cant relate as I have never had anything other than health all my life up to this date, I do understand what you are saying though, and the mental acceptance is a reality that will bring a bonus of release that seems to help the fear.

    About 10 years ago I was dealing with a young successful business man who feared flying so badly, that he went for psychological treatment and heavy use of drugs to stop the shakes he was getting on boarding the plane, he confided in me his fears and ask what could he do about it, as it ruining his life and business, I turned to him and said why don't you die, he looked at me with horror and struck with dumbness as I told him to just die, then I explained myself and said, think of all the ways to die in an airplane, imagine all the ways and experience death in your mind, I saw him a couple of weeks later, and the results were positive, he experienced every conceivable way one could die in a accident by flying, truly he never had a problem since.

    Thank you for your story 8 and warmest regards to you

    roman

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    Quote Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
    Quote Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
    You will die like a good little citizen obeying all the rules and all the segregation of borderlines that these in powers have established for your protection!!!!........The world is not free, it is ruled, your life is useless to them that poison the air that you breathe, poison your food that you eat, destroy the very thing that makes survival necessary to sustain life, create weathers management that destroys the very food that we require, creating the passport to freedom and experiencing life by the money in your pocket, the powerful money mongers now stating who will live and die, agenda, agendas, agendas, for your removal.

    There are cyclic climatic changes that this world and other planet go through periodically that's a secret that they have kept from the people for thousands of years, they are very busy trying to find the DNA clock that will sustain them with money to live beyond the cell division of 50 to 52 times within once lifetime, falsehood upon falsehood is their their ways to the their law abiding citizen, a moron, a piece of consciousness that is worthless garbage to them, only good for manipulation, and sacrifice of their life's for a system that will sh** on you when you are of no use to them.

    When will we really realize that history is full of example of the masses being trodden by the select few, who raise themselves above all else, the stupidity of the human race is really beyond belief.

    regards
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    Thank you. I agree on most. Exept your ideas about my death.

    I plan to die in the winter, when its hard work to dig a hole and

    the flowers are expensive.


    All is well


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    Hi Jorr

    That's the best answer that I have ever heard, in that case all IS well, thank you, must try that heheh.

    regards as always
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    The fear of death, that's the biggie isn't it? Sometimes the cheat sheet just happens to fall right in our lap. I've been "lucky" enough(LOL) to have been through a handful of events that I had no business what so ever walking away from. Funny thing, when you suddenly find yourself experiencing the last few fleeting seconds of your life. In the midst of utter chaos, "all is well", as Jorr likes to say.

    Another funny thing. There was one time where the end result was not yet a foregone conclusion, and was pending on the next move I made. THAT was the time I tasted the fear of death.

    So, is that two different "I's"? Hmmmm.

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    Quote Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
    The fear of death, that's the biggie isn't it? Sometimes the cheat sheet just happens to fall right in our lap. I've been "lucky" enough(LOL) to have been through a handful of events that I had no business what so ever walking away from. Funny thing, when you suddenly find yourself experiencing the last few fleeting seconds of your life. In the midst of utter chaos, "all is well", as Jorr likes to say.

    Another funny thing. There was one time where the end result was not yet a foregone conclusion, and was pending on the next move I made. THAT was the time I tasted the fear of death.

    So, is that two different "I's"? Hmmmm.

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    Hi Fred really nice to see you back my friend.

    Yes that is a question mark and you could be right, which "I" was that, they say that when the there is a very narrow space between life and death, something, someone steps in, the silent one, the watcher??? you have a very pleasant face Fred, I know its the silent one within for you my friend..

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    Quote Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)

    Thank you. I agree on most. Exept your ideas about my death.

    I plan to die in the winter, when its hard work to dig a hole and

    the flowers are expensive.


    All is well


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    They will probably stack you, like chordwood, in the graveyard crypt...like they do with everyone else. And wait until spring.

    As long as they don't wait too long until after the spring thaw, your fleshbox won't be too stinky.
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