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    Bacteria, viruses and parasites cause around two million cases of cancer in the world each year, experts believe.

    Of the 7.5 million global deaths from cancer that occurred in 2008, an estimated 1.5 million may have been due to potentially preventable or treatable infections.

    Scientists carried out a statistical analysis of cancer incidence to calculate that around 16 per cent of all cancers diagnosed in 2008 were infection-related. The proportion of cancers linked to infection was three times higher in developing than in developed countries.

    Key cancer-causing infectious agents include human papillomavirus (HPV), the gastric bug Helicobacter pylori and the hepatitis B (HBV) and C viruses. These four were together believed to be responsible for 1.9 million cases of cancer, mostly gastric, liver and cervical cancers.

    Cervical cancer accounted for around half of infection-related women’s cancers. In men, more than 80 per cent of infection-related cancers affected the liver, stomach and colon.

    Study lead authors Dr Catherine de Martel and Dr Martyn Plummer, from the International Agency for Research on Cancer in Lyon, France, wrote in The Lancet Oncology journal: 'Infections with certain viruses, bacteria, and parasites are one of the biggest and preventable causes of cancer worldwide.

    'Application of existing public-health methods for infection prevention, such as vaccination, safer injection practice, or antimicrobial treatments, could have a substantial effect on future burden of cancer worldwide.'
    The researchers used information from a number of sources including a cancer-incidence database covering 27 cancers from 184 countries.


    Commenting on the findings in journal, Dr Goodarz Danaei from the Harvard School of Public Medicine in Boston, US, wrote: 'Their estimates show the potential for preventive and therapeutic programmes in less developed countries to significantly reduce the global burden of cancer and the vast disparities across regions and countries.


    'Since effective and relatively low-cost vaccines for HPV and HBV are available, increasing coverage should be a priority for health systems in high-burden countries.'

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1uMMT04o4

    My comments: Looks like a spruik for forced vaccinations given they are a Pharma.....having said that, I believe that the bugs (infection) causes irritation that damages tissue. The damaged tissue in order to repair itself recruits a lot of immune cells that cause inflammation and that triggers changes that can lead to cancer formation.

    The really nasty one is H Pylori!!!! the cause of stomach cancer - kill the bug (as they do now once you have an ulcer) and stomach cancer rates decreased.

    HPV is probably the most causative bug that I have come across anyway

    It is a disease (initially) of the epithelium so taking Vit A should assist

    No doubt now this is out, we will see much more.
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    Default Re: Bacteria, viruses and parasites 'cause 1.5million cancer deaths each year

    The use of MMS will neutralize viruses, bacteria and fungi in the body.

    It has helped a lot of people around the planet.
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    Default Re: Bacteria, viruses and parasites 'cause 1.5million cancer deaths each year

    yes, they do have a causative effect for cancer but what causes them to to make cancer in some people and not others? What causes them to reside in some poeple and not others?

    A depleted and malfunctioning immune response.

    This film will show you insights perhaps many of you have not pondered before. This is not a block buster film. It takes some patience to watch it or and OCD personality for information or an extreme interest in optics, but it is most revealing.

    http://www.grayfieldoptical.com/symb...arasitism.html

    this article gives further details on the dark field microscope. Essentially it can see much of what Royal Rife was looking at when he said that cancer was caused by a variety of virus. It also confirms polymorphism. This is one of the leading pieces of information that the conventional medical system does not want you to know and it is why doctors in the USA are not permited to use dark field to diagnose and remains outside of accepted and standard practices of care. To practice civil disobedience you have an obligation to learn.

    http://www.healthsalon.org/586/live-...ld-microscope/

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    almost all cancer has a pathogeninc underlying cause or strong associaiton. Although things like radiation can cause cancer or other toxins, they always stimulat the presence of pathogens.

    Even staph and strep are associated with cancer as well as a host of others more common but still less familiar to the lay person ... as well as liver flukes and other larger parasites. Virus is just a part of the issue. When staph and strep are residing in organs and tissues that they are not common to or when their morphologies are present in such tissues this can lead to cancer too.

    Fungus has a strong association with breast and prostate cancer.

    Virus is associated with melanoma.

    Pancreatic cancer is pathogen based in my estimation when the digestion is weak or poor the pathogens survive the stomach and move up the pancreatic duct... equally true up the common bile duct.

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    Pleomorphism is considered mainstream - in that accepted that many bacteria can change their shape. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleomorphism_(microbiology)

    I put a thread up about George Merkyl, the first to video them. Not only Rife but Pasteur Virchow and Kock agreed.

    I agree its all about the immune system and yes Seko, MMS is the cure

    I just thought it was great to finally have this out in msm.

    Hopefully we will see a whole lot more about it now....its been hidden for far too long

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    My understanding is that Pasteur did not agree nor did he agree that the terrain contributed to disease but that disease came about by an invasion. The following is from wiki. So far western medicine has accepted only a very basic acceptance of pleomorphism concerning size and shape. It goes much further than that... . nothing about a microbe changing into what appears to be a totally different thing. The following is from wiki and they say that it has only been recently shown that things can change dramatically... well only recently for the uninformed and brainwashed which our universities seem to be filled with. Ironically the Pasteur institue in France has been doing most of the research over the years... and Germany is well on board.

    It will largely remain hidden in my estimation as long as the dark field microscope like the Ergonon remains disregarded in the USA... (cant speak for Europe to much). Some of this stuff is so small... and then to watch it in living action is amazing..


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    In the first decades of the 20th century, the term "pleomorphism" was used to refer to the idea that bacteria changed shape dramatically or existed in a number of extreme morphological forms. This claim was controversial among microbiologists of the time, and split them into two schools: the monomorphists, who opposed the claim, and the pleomorphists (such as Antoine Béchamp, Günther Enderlein and Albert Calmette).[2]
    Monomorphic theory, supported by Louis Pasteur, Rudolf Virchow, Ferdinand Cohn, and Robert Koch, emerged to become the dominant paradigm in modern medical science: it is now almost universally accepted that each bacterial cell is derived from a previously existing cell of practically the same size and shape. However it has recently been shown that certain bacteria are capable of dramatically changing shape, for example Helicobacter pylori exists as both a helix-shaped form (classified as a curved rod) and a coccoid form.[3]

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    Pleomorphism is considered mainstream - in that accepted that many bacteria can change their shape. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleomorphism_(microbiology)

    I put a thread up about George Merkyl, the first to video them. Not only Rife but Pasteur Virchow and Kock agreed.

    I agree its all about the immune system and yes Seko, MMS is the cure

    I just thought it was great to finally have this out in msm.

    Hopefully we will see a whole lot more about it now....its been hidden for far too long

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    Apparently on his death bed Pasteur admitted that Beauchamp was right all along - disease came from within.....

    if you go to google scholar there is plenty on pleomorphism: http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar...=1%2C5&as_sdtp=

    Anyway, bit off the beaten track - the point of the thread was to point out that bacteria is being acknowledged as causative in cancer and that IMHO is a huge disclosure

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    IMO
    I think what will cure all of our ailments is getting rid of TPTW.... Cancers are not naturally occuring in our bodies. It has to have something introduced to it.....

    As I understand it, we are supposed to have healthy bodies and be in happy states of mind NATURALLY....
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    In what i have been researching re: Cancer is. Cancer is a fungus, it cannot grow in a alkaline body. The mind and body should be pure. Lowering our vibrations from stress, anger, hatred etc. Is a trigger for disease. Heres a good link with regards to raising a healthy PH body.


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    Quote Posted by witchy1 (here)
    Apparently on his death bed Pasteur admitted that Beauchamp was right all along - disease came from within.....

    if you go to google scholar there is plenty on pleomorphism: http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar...=1%2C5&as_sdtp=

    Anyway, bit off the beaten track - the point of the thread was to point out that bacteria is being acknowledged as causative in cancer and that IMHO is a huge disclosure
    Ya, on his deathbed. Thanks alot, Pasteur. Consequently a whole world movement in science was built on his lies... according to my reading he knew long before but money and funding made him move in the other direction. He is fundamentally responsible for the deaths of millions though his greed in this particular arena.


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    In what i have been researching re: Cancer is. Cancer is a fungus, it cannot grow in a alkaline body. The mind and body should be pure. Lowering our vibrations from stress, anger, hatred etc. Is a trigger for disease. Heres a good link with regards to raising a healthy PH body.


    Http://www.b17.com.au
    Only some cancers are fungal. Always the terrain is damaged so pathogens and virus and take the upper hand.
    Nothing needs to be introduced. all that is necessary is already there in most cases.. but of course not all. this is what polymorphism, pleomorphism is all about. Damage the terrain with bad diet, stress, drugs, radiation, exposure to pathogens, etc and you have the cesspool necessary to create cancer as the microbes turn virulent and damage surrounding tissues that they dwell in.
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    imo the cause for cancer and almost all other diseases is always (except in cases of radiation damage to dna) wrong nutrition which causes a breakdown of the immune system, and while mms may be a short-term help in many cases by killing the pathogens the only long-term cure is correction of nutritional deficits and errors such as eating processed foods that are both oxidized and full of unnatural components.

    regarding the "alkaline body" theory it's important to keep in mind that a healthy body will always regulate the ph provided it has enough of the vital elements (minerals etc.) to do that. your diet can be acidic with lots of sulphur or phosphorous compounds and yet you may be perfectly healthy as long as you also supply enough alkaline minerals such as calcium, magnesium etc. as shown for example by eskimos living on mostly (acidic) animal foods and fish.
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    Quote Posted by witchy1 (here)
    Bacteria, viruses and parasites cause around two million cases of cancer in the world each year, experts believe.

    Of the 7.5 million global deaths from cancer that occurred in 2008, an estimated 1.5 million may have been due to potentially preventable or treatable infections.

    Scientists carried out a statistical analysis of cancer incidence to calculate that around 16 per cent of all cancers diagnosed in 2008 were infection-related. The proportion of cancers linked to infection was three times higher in developing than in developed countries.

    Key cancer-causing infectious agents include human papillomavirus (HPV), the gastric bug Helicobacter pylori and the hepatitis B (HBV) and C viruses. These four were together believed to be responsible for 1.9 million cases of cancer, mostly gastric, liver and cervical cancers.

    Cervical cancer accounted for around half of infection-related women’s cancers. In men, more than 80 per cent of infection-related cancers affected the liver, stomach and colon.
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    My comments: Looks like a spruik for forced vaccinations given they are a Pharma.....having said that, I believe that the bugs (infection) causes irritation that damages tissue. The damaged tissue in order to repair itself recruits a lot of immune cells that cause inflammation and that triggers changes that can lead to cancer formation.

    The really nasty one is H Pylori!!!! the cause of stomach cancer - kill the bug (as they do now once you have an ulcer) and stomach cancer rates decreased.

    HPV is probably the most causative bug that I have come across anyway

    It is a disease (initially) of the epithelium so taking Vit A should assist

    No doubt now this is out, we will see much more.
    HPV and Hept. B can be cured in short order. My local naturopath can easily get rid of either (utilizing a combination of homeopathy and Dr. Bob Beck's protocols).

    I don't know about this stomach bug being an issue. Hasn't surface in my stomach cancer issues. And cannabis takes care of my cancer (when it re-occurs...came back twice, after initial treatment...but each time needs less care/time to heal....and still a work in progress). I have discovered lots of reason I have the cancer....so not ruling this bug out as being a contributor....but am not treating it and still getting well.

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    Excerpt from my 11th grader's Science Project, for which she got an A+...........
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    Even in modern times the established approach to healing; conventional Western medicine denies or downplays the effectiveness of natural healing. When studying the information available it would seem that conventional physicians have much to learn from Mother Nature.

    The debate really intensified in the mid 1800s. A man named Antoine Bechamp, often called The Gentle Giant of Science & Medicine, went head-to-head with Louis Pasteur and his Germ Theory of Disease. Through strict scientific methods Bechamp proved that disease was not due to germs or bacteria attacking the body from the outside world. He determined that what we eat, drink, and bathe in are the primary factors that determine our body’s inner condition. He concluded that lifestyle changes, such as wholesome nutrition and environmental, hygienic cleanliness were ignored in favor of other, more profitable solutions.

    Mr. Bechamp was degreed in biology, chemistry, physics, pharmacy, and medicine, and practiced all of these disciplines. He was also a university professor in all these fields. The accomplishments of Mr. Bechamp are unmatched and he has few equals in modern times.

    Louis Pasteur proposed that germs were lurking about waiting to pounce on the unsuspecting who were helpless to do anything about it. Pasteur was well aware of the work of Bechamp, but rather than embrace and use Bechamp’s research in his own studies chose profit over truth. Mr. Pasteur sided with the greedy, power hungry industrialists and decided to begin an effort to discredit Bechamp’s life work. This was the beginning of pharmaceutical medicine, using drugs to supposedly kill germs. Pasteur aligned himself with the big money players of his time, the Rockefeller and Carnegie families. The Rockefellers used their wealth and influence to establish a world monopoly where drug medicine was the only accepted option for treating disease. This sidelined naturopathic, holistic, homeopathic based medicine. These natural approaches to treatment of disease have been shunned by medical science, government, and academics ever since.

    Pasteur was a good salesman. What he lacked in scholarship he excelled in making his opinions believed. Pasteur often rewrote Bechamp’s academic submissions, twisting the sound conclusions to fit his own agenda. His rewrites, edits, and half-truths are, unfortunately, the foundation of today’s modern medicine. Pasteur smooth talked academia, the newspapers, society persons, and government leaders. None bothered to check his work. Sometimes Pasteur wrote about experiments never performed. We know this from his personal writings and diaries. He actually recorded his fake experiments and stolen research. When attempts are made to duplicate his experiments they fail.

    Bechamp was the first to understand and catalog the process of fermentation, but Pasteur’s confusing, stolen writings on the subject are recognized as the first. Bechamp scientifically disproved Spontaneous Generation, the idea that flies grew out of fecal matter and that rats were formed from garbage piles. Yet, Pasteur is credited with this discovery.

    Antoine Bechamp was the foremost pioneer of science, medicine, nutrition, and genetics all at once. The lack of recognition for this is a literary loss to history, and has resulted in tremendous physical suffering in humanity for generations. Bechamp noted the importance of taking care of one’s self for prevention of disease. He was a champion of self responsibility. He noted that germs abounded in unhealthy environments but were not a problem for those who lived healthful lives and ate healthful foods. He concluded, and proved, that bacterial infestation is a sign of disease and not the cause of disease.

    So, the idea of treating and managing disease with drugs took hold. The idea of actually preventing and curing a disease fell off and was ridiculed. This is most unfortunate, because Bechamp’s work has been verified many times over the last 100 years. Dr. E.C. Rosenow of the Mayo Clinic published papers in mainstream science and medical journals that confirmed this work in the 1920s. Mr. Royal Rife, with his powerful Universal Microscope, confirmed the work of Bechamp through many decades. History clearly shows that Mr. Bechamp was a dedicated, truthful genius and that Mr. Pasteur was a fraud and an opportunist. It has been widely reported that Mr. Pasteur recounted his theory and works on his deathbed. His own papers serve to confirm his statements made when faced with death and divine judgment.

    Now, many, many decades later the natural health movement is beginning to gain ground on conventional medicine. It will not be an easy fight. Drug companies do not want the knowledge of Mother Nature known. It means less profit for them. If people are really cured of a disease, then doctors can’t ‘manage’ the disease by providing drugs to the patient for years.

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    Quote Now, many, many decades later the natural health movement is beginning to gain ground on conventional medicine. It will not be an easy fight. Drug companies do not want the knowledge of Mother Nature known. It means less profit for them. If people are really cured of a disease, then doctors can’t ‘manage’ the disease by providing drugs to the patient for years.
    from above

    I don't know about this. When I first began studying herbs, I didn't know anyone else that was. Eventually I met all the herbal people, accupuncture people etc. in my area. So I too thought that this was an explanding field. But now it feels to be contracting, as the FDA here in the US has us fighting for our survival.

    Just saying, it was easier before 9/11 (just using it as a fixed point in time), to be in this field and utilitize these products.

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    Quote Posted by witchy1 (here)
    Bacteria, viruses and parasites cause around two million cases of cancer in the world each year, experts believe.

    Of the 7.5 million global deaths from cancer that occurred in 2008, an estimated 1.5 million may have been due to potentially preventable or treatable infections.

    Scientists carried out a statistical analysis of cancer incidence to calculate that around 16 per cent of all cancers diagnosed in 2008 were infection-related. The proportion of cancers linked to infection was three times higher in developing than in developed countries.

    Key cancer-causing infectious agents include human papillomavirus (HPV), the gastric bug Helicobacter pylori and the hepatitis B (HBV) and C viruses. These four were together believed to be responsible for 1.9 million cases of cancer, mostly gastric, liver and cervical cancers.

    Cervical cancer accounted for around half of infection-related women’s cancers. In men, more than 80 per cent of infection-related cancers affected the liver, stomach and colon.
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    My comments: Looks like a spruik for forced vaccinations given they are a Pharma.....having said that, I believe that the bugs (infection) causes irritation that damages tissue. The damaged tissue in order to repair itself recruits a lot of immune cells that cause inflammation and that triggers changes that can lead to cancer formation.

    The really nasty one is H Pylori!!!! the cause of stomach cancer - kill the bug (as they do now once you have an ulcer) and stomach cancer rates decreased.

    HPV is probably the most causative bug that I have come across anyway

    It is a disease (initially) of the epithelium so taking Vit A should assist

    No doubt now this is out, we will see much more.
    HPV and Hept. B can be cured in short order. My local naturopath can easily get rid of either (utilizing a combination of homeopathy and Dr. Bob Beck's protocols).

    I don't know about this stomach bug being an issue. Hasn't surface in my stomach cancer issues. And cannabis takes care of my cancer (when it re-occurs...came back twice, after initial treatment...but each time needs less care/time to heal....and still a work in progress). I have discovered lots of reason I have the cancer....so not ruling this bug out as being a contributor....but am not treating it and still getting well.
    the pathogens are a symptom of previous disorder. You will not have cancer without a pathogen issue whether your doc knows how to find it or not... and surely, he does not. . Dont care what the conventional docs say.


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    So, the idea of treating and managing disease with drugs took hold. The idea of actually preventing and curing a disease fell off and was ridiculed. This is most unfortunate, because Bechamp’s work has been verified many times over the last 100 years.

    [...]

    Now, many, many decades later the natural health movement is beginning to gain ground on conventional medicine. It will not be an easy fight. Drug companies do not want the knowledge of Mother Nature known. It means less profit for them. If people are really cured of a disease, then doctors can’t ‘manage’ the disease by providing drugs to the patient for years.

    ....
    the last sentence is the crux of the matter. the drug companies are controlled by the same people who want a) depopulation and b) getting richer and more powerful. by selling drugs that only deal with the symptoms and don't cure they make sure the people have to stay on these drugs and can even sell more drugs that deal with the symptoms of the other drugs' side-effects. it's an ideal way to get lots of people's money and create a physically and mentally sick population that's easily controlled and highly susceptible to laboratory-created diseases in case it becomes necessary to depopulate the planet faster. it's also a kind of natural selection because those people who are aware of what's going on and smart enough to avoid most of what's thrown at them are the ones that will survive while the rest of the population is slowly (or sometimes quickly) being killed without ever figuring out what hit them.
    Among the blind the one-eyed is a madman.

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    My perception of the matter is that the natural health movement is growing my leaps and bounds and more people are using herbs and vitamins and minerals and whole foods and other alternative means than ever before. I 've been into this for over 35 years now and I can see a huge growth in awareness. .. and the stats for sales of natural products prove it out, in the billions of dollars annually, with growth each year, and of course there are more natropathic doctors than ever before, and it is legal practice where once it was not and I can remember the day when finding a healthfood store was almost impossible unless you lived in a big city... and organic was an unknown word. No organic agriculture grows annually.

    And then aside from naturopaths the classical Homeopath has been ressurected from being nearly dead. There are many homepaths now.

    I forget the exact numbers but naturoapthic practice is licensed and available in maybe 14 states now with about 7 states pending in the legislation. 35 or 40 years ago, really there was nothing... and of course all these docs use herbs and so many different types of alternative medicine.

    So really the impingement by the FDA is only a backlash against the growing will of the people... it is the wreathing of the death throws of conventional medicine. Integrated medicine will come to rule... just give it some more time.
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    Quote Posted by Arrowwind (here)
    My perception of the matter is that the natural health movement is growing my leaps and bounds and more people are using herbs and vitamins and minerals and whole foods and other alternative means than ever before. I 've been into this for over 35 years now and I can see a huge growth in awareness. .. and the stats for sales of natural products prove it out, in the billions of dollars annually, with growth each year, and of course there are more natropathic doctors than ever before, and it is legal practice where once it was not and I can remember the day when finding a healthfood store was almost impossible unless you lived in a big city... and organic was an unknown word. No organic agriculture grows annually.

    And then aside from naturopaths the classical Homeopath has been ressurected from being nearly dead. There are many homepaths now.

    I forget the exact numbers but naturoapthic practice is licensed and available in maybe 14 states now with about 7 states pending in the legislation. 35 or 40 years ago, really there was nothing... and of course all these docs use herbs and so many different types of alternative medicine.

    So really the impingement by the FDA is only a backlash against the growing will of the people... it is the wreathing of the death throws of conventional medicine. Integrated medicine will come to rule... just give it some more time.
    I agree. Many conventional scientists, researchers, physicians, and administrators are waking up. The evidence is clearly mounting, supporting the idea that humans can heal themselves. The old ideas are losing ground because the efficacy is simply not being shown.

    And yes, the FDA is pushing harder and harder to stem the tide. They are of course driven by their masters, the revolving door Pharma thugs who come into government circles and make policy, then go back to their corporate lair and reap the profits.

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    Hi Arrowwind,
    I know we are all programmed to believe in parasites, bacteria and so on. We are programmed in our knowledge of what medicine is.
    I've been un-doing this program for some time and I remote view my own physical issues (and get help remotely with invisible surgeries from the "john of god' medium/entities).
    I am just stating what I am seeing. If there is more I will post it. I just havn't seen a bacteria. I am looking for casual relationships, when I remote view. What food did I eat that aggravated the stomach/spleen and liver areas? What toxins did I expose myself to and need healing, balancing (releasing from their patterns...or it is like we program a pattern into our cellular memory, a time when we were un-aware of something valuable (to us)....and that 'area' will produce 'pain symptoms and distress and evenually dis-ease/ill-ness to gain our attention).

    Healing is releasing backed up karma. Simple. No need for surgeries (usually), or BigPharm (big gun) meds. (in most cases/scenioros).

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    Quote "the pathogens are a symptom of previous disorder. You will not have cancer without a pathogen issue whether your doc knows how to find it or not... and surely, he does not. . Dont care what the conventional docs say. "

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    Here is my order for healing.

    Being with issue (see if releases on its own)
    Physical palpation to area (to help it release....so tissue work....like massage, chiro)
    Homeopathy....for my chronic issues that I havn't gotten to as are beyond my current 'expertise' or 'ability' to discern/work on
    herbs ....using some for my heart right now and cancer
    Accupuncture....wonderful anytime. but I use for acute conditions....like when I couldn't leave my house and had endless headaches vomiting from smart meters....5 treatments and the severe symptoms vanished

    Then if those don't work (or I don't have time to let them work), I visit my Naturopath (he has an excellent Medical background), my own doctors (I keep different specialist handy) or my local ER (for those vomiting episodes/from the stomach cancers/ill-ness that I can't control). And If needed, I take their meds (until I have a better alternative).

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