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    Default Potent new psychotic (mix) drug let loose on the world?

    Calz found this the other day (literally)...

    ...and I think I see the edge of either a scary new mix of materials, put together by someone who has no idea what they are doing..or the evidence of someone knowing exactly what they are doing.

    I won't pre-suppose, as that can lead down a false path.

    The issue is paranoid enough, without any sort of a pre-load condition to confuse the matter.

    This may even be a public test of a rapture drug (please note previous sentence). (why does this thread, now that I'm typing this sound and feel so familiar? Is this old news recycled? Is it, as Bera said, Deja-vu again?)

    I mean, I had to look at that site, the CBS site, that had the news bit... and check over and over gain to see if I wasn't on 'the Onion' site or some other joke site. As in, "they're kidding, right?". Apparently not.


    This was in the 'zombie apocalypse' thread, as it seemed to be connected but it appears to be far too real...

    Further analysis seems to show this is possibility of a 'drug mix' nature.. My posting, which will be below Calz's post, will explain. A very very scary mix, if for real. Thus the whole thing of making it a thread.


    The original thread. Note the whole CDC thing, but try not to read too deep into it.



    Quote Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
    ... and so it begins ...



    ________________________________


    Zombie apocalypse becomes reality in Miami as police shoot naked, mindless man literally eating the face off another man

    Sunday, May 27, 2012
    by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger

    (NaturalNews) The long-dreaded "zombie apocalypse" may already be underway in Miami, where a human zombie -- a mindless naked man -- was encountered by police officers who found him literally feasting on the face of another naked man. This is a true event and has been reported by CBS Miami (http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/05/26...ontation-men-l...) which says:

    "Miami police shot and killed a man on the MacArthur Causeway Saturday afternoon, and police sources told CBS4 they had no choice: the naked man they shot was trying to chew the face off another naked man, and refused to obey police orders to stop his grisly meal. ...Officers found one man gnawing on the face of another, in what one police source called the most gruesome thing he’d ever seen."

    At that point, the police officers shot the zombie once, but he continued feeding on the other man's face. They were forced to shoot him again, which mercifully killed him. Then they sought to aid the victim whose face was already mostly eaten off.

    "With the attacker dead, lying nude on the pavement, officers and paramedics were able to get to his victim and rush him to Jackson Memorial Hospital. Police sources say the man had virtually no face and was unrecognizable. Once the bizarre confrontation came to an end, police were left with the task of figuring out what had happened..."

    A surveillance video has surfaced of the incident. Here's a still shot from the video, showing the two men lying on the sidewalk, under a road bridge, with a police car parked nearby:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/images/Mi...Apocalypse.jpg

    The Miami Herald also reported: "According to police sources, a road ranger saw a naked man chewing on another man's face and shouted on his loud speaker for him to back away. When he continued the assault, the officer shot him, police sources said. The attacker failed to stop after being shot, forcing the officer to continue firing. Witnesses said they heard at least a half dozen shots." (http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/2...-shot-killed-o...)


    The Zombie apocalypse begins

    Are we now witnessing the rise of the zombies? Humans who subject themselves to fluoride, aspartame, psychiatric drugs, vaccines and street drugs end up lobotomizing their higher brains. Vaccines, for starters, cause extreme neurological damage, and some vaccines are actually made of aggressive viruses designed to "eat" targeted regions of the brain, resulting in a biological lobotomy.

    What's left is the primal section of the brain, sometimes called the "reptilian brain." Or the "zombie brain," to use a pop culture term. This zombie brain has no morals and no logic. It only knows hunger, sex, violence and fear. It is entirely focused on selfish needs and has no ability to consider the welfare of others.

    "America is becoming a zombie nation," award-winning investigative journalist Jim Marrs recently told me in a phone interview. In fact, he wanted to name his most recent book "Zombie Nation," but the publisher overruled him and instead had it named, "The Trillion Dollar Conspiracy," which doesn't even make that much sense given the broad coverage of topics in the book. The word "zombie" did make it into the subtitle, however. Here's the full title: "The Trillion-Dollar Conspiracy: How the New World Order, Man-Made Diseases, and Zombie Banks Are Destroying America."
    (http://www.amazon.com/The-Trillion-D.../dp/0061970697)


    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035990_zo...#ixzz1w8FrROJk

    Then I replied:

    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    They are calling it LSD.

    That is impossible.

    It is NOT Lysergic Acid Diethylamide

    It's something else all together.

    edit:

    It could be experimental, something combined with LSD (acid).

    Acid will, to a certain extent, remove the barrier between the higher self and the lower self. This is why it is on record as increasing intelligence by an average of 20%, when the person is 'high'.

    Whatever this stuff is, it is possibly using the LSD, as a combination to remove the intellect and leave the animal component in charge.


    Possibly, something like this. The actual zombie drug. It is 100% real.

    This stuff is, I very much suspect (I'm thinking 100% chance) part of the original CIA programming techniques.

    The most dangerous drug in the world: 'Devil's Breath' chemical from Colombia can block free will, wipe memory and even kill:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...free-will.html

    Almost as potent as LSD, ounce for ounce. A couple of grams could kill 10-12 people, apparently.

    However, concerning acid...there is no known "LD50" (50% death rate, means 'lethal dose 50%') for acid or LSD. It simply cannot kill, on it's own.

    This is possibly what happened to the Kony 2012 video guy. If true...either he took it, or someone dosed him.
    Acid, BTW, has never produced such vicious results. Ever. Period. Not in my recollection or in any form of searching out information on high doses, whatever the case may be. Acid simply does not take a being to such places, at any dose level. (but I could be wrong so check yourself, if curious) This has to be a drug mix as the acid will not produce the same physical results, regarding body temp, etc.
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    Default Re: Potent new psychotic (mix) drug let loose on the world?

    Hey mate,

    I suspect "special K", or ketamine, if used by unprepared persons, can make people do such stupid things as trying to eat another man´s face.

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    Default Re: Potent new psychotic (mix) drug let loose on the world?

    I saw this yesterday and I thought it was real, but I need someone to confirm it because I saw the news reporter and he didn't talk about the cannibalism part of the story.... so what is the truth??

    adding a video within the link

    The video is almost 7min long and you can see when the police arrive and takes out his gun and then you can see 2 naked men.


    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/2...#storylink=cpy
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    I've only tried ketamine twice, once when I was 3.5 years old, and once when I was about 36. it is definitely a weird one. Does Ketamine produce extreme body heat fluctuations?

    As, they used to use it for operating on people, specifically kids, in order to calm them. So..I don't think that using anything that flips people out and changes their metabolism so dangerously would even be attempted in the first place, regarding a medical operating procedure.

    who knows. Perhaps a third drug, or something else altogether.

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    Quote Posted by seko (here)
    I saw this yesterday and I thought it was real, but I need someone to confirm it because I saw the news reporter and he didn't talk about the cannibalism part of the story.... so what is the truth??
    Yes, this a critical bit, but who knows.

    However, this may explain one aspect of the whole Kony thing, possibly.
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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    I've only tried ketamine twice, once when I was 3.5 years old, and once when I was about 36. it is definitely a weird one. Does Ketamine produce extreme body heat fluctuations?

    As, they used to use it for operating on people, specifically kids, in order to calm them. So..I don't think that using anything that flips people out and changes their metabolism so dangerously would even be attempted in the first place, regarding a medical operating procedure.

    who knows. Perhaps a third drug, or something else altogether.
    Hey mate,

    Well, the thing with ketamine happens when you use it in higher doses, usually, converted into its powder form.

    Used in low doses, it just calm people down, since it´s a very power anesthetic.

    The problem with katemine, is that you absolutely can´t mix it with alcohol!

    If you do, it drives you crazy, literally. You would still be able to move and walk around, but all the world around you would be a hallucination.

    Also, some crazy people out there mix ketamine with cocaine, and then drink the hell over it.

    It´s super dangerous stuff. Someone could eat your face and you could actually enjoy it.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    I've only tried ketamine twice, once when I was 3.5 years old, and once when I was about 36. it is definitely a weird one. Does Ketamine produce extreme body heat fluctuations?

    As, they used to use it for operating on people, specifically kids, in order to calm them. So..I don't think that using anything that flips people out and changes their metabolism so dangerously would even be attempted in the first place, regarding a medical operating procedure.

    who knows. Perhaps a third drug, or something else altogether.
    Hey mate,

    Well, the thing with ketamine happens when you use it in higher doses, usually, converted into its powder form.

    Used in low doses, it just calm people down, since it´s a very power anesthetic.

    The problem with katemine, is that you absolutely can´t mix it with alcohol!

    If you do, it drives you crazy, literally. You would still be able to move and walk around, but all the world around you would be a hallucination.

    Also, some crazy people out there mix ketamine with cocaine, and then drink the hell over it.

    It´s super dangerous stuff. Someone could eat your face and you could actually enjoy it.

    Cheers,

    Raf.
    So..to remove the higher intellect and the barrier it has to controlling the final aspects of the body..and leaving the lower animal in control, with dimensional barriers broken ...the seeming hallucination part. (co-creation and all that)(object identification systems being driven by the body's fears-feedback loop)

    Just great......
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    Default Re: Potent new psychotic (mix) drug let loose on the world?

    i suspect more BS

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    Quote Posted by fathertedsmate (here)
    i suspect more BS
    It's always more BS, Plenty to go around.

    I've just petitioned to have the title amended to have a question mark at the end. As it is a question, not a statement.
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    Quote Posted by seko (here)
    I saw this yesterday and I thought it was real, but I need someone to confirm it because I saw the news reporter and he didn't talk about the cannibalism part of the story.... so what is the truth??
    The truth is as reported by CBS and the attacker was eating the face off the victim. Not normal behavior for sure, If there is such a thing any more. My advice, grow a beard and wear a thick high collar buttoned tight to prevent neck attack also, maille would be good. Things are really getting strange for the meat eaters. IMHO


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    Default Re: Potent new psychotic (mix) drug let loose on the world?

    Well, the thing about spiritualism, is that one has to go to the edge of themselves,and then enter it. However, knowingly and under controlled conditions. One has to go the edge of the self and all limit parameters, and then sit in them, understand them, deal with them, learn them, expand beyond them and then..finally know what is outside of that as barriers go. Some parts of the ride (good luck remembering this paragraph, your mind will try to make you forget it) will be in the form of some bit of insanity. This is inescapable, if one wants to fix themselves.... and be on the outside of the duality barrier, instead of being inside of it (caged by it, unawares), not knowing that it is there, like 99.999% of the people reading this paragraph.


    Now, if a drug takes people there, under totally uncontrolled conditions and unprepared (which is part of the psychosis factor of drugs that interconnect the mind, like LSD does)..this can make for a very polarizing situation.

    Very much a 'rise or fall' to the situation scenario.

    as if every point of balance in a mind and it's hindbrain depths, suddenly had a 100x factor added to them,and any semblance of rise, fall, or balance, as in balanced everyday life keeping it under control.... as if that held sway, no more.

    For example, if one was driving a car with a 1 ton trailer behind it..and could keep it on the road nicely. Then out of the blue..the trailer turns into a 53 foot 50,000 pound (22k kgs) mass, with all of it's prior vectors-directions and mass intact. One is guaranteed to go off the rails or road in a direction that is of the trailer's design and volition... as the prior 'driver' or control is not just absent, the conditions of the trailer are now amped in value, in the extreme. Acid can do this. It will take whatever mood/space one is in, and amplify it. Good or bad, it will be amped.

    Now, add this to a mix that shuts down any semblance of frontal lobes attempting to drive anything or keep any form of an even keel..and well... we'll get to see what kind of balance that given person intrinsically has within them.

    Which is why the Buddhists and spiritualist do it one on one, with no drugs, under the view and instruction of learned participants.

    Which is why I said, possibly..a 'rapture drug'? As it would be one hell of a separator in groups of people.

    But I was not aware of the effects of high doses of Ketamine, which I will investigate.
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    Default Re: Potent new psychotic (mix) drug let loose on the world?

    I have done high doses of ketamine with alcohol.....ate japanese food, watched a movie and went to sleep.

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    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Hey mate,

    I suspect "special K", or ketamine, if used by unprepared persons, can make people do such stupid things as trying to eat another man´s face.

    Cheers,

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    I doubt very much that K can make anyone do such horrors! K trips are usually calm. From all my experience with it and from all people I'v seen on it, only once I'v seen person who went a bit crazy for a moment from high K dose mixed with alcohol, so I guess the trip depends of person psychic ... ! He had visions of war and killings and he told that he felt like he was soldier !
    In higher doses of K, you have loss of motor abilities because its anesthetic . Mixed with alcohol can even make it harder to do any activities.
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    and do you know that BZ chemical?
    http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/bz/bz.shtml

    Total Duration : approx. 70-80 hrs!!!!

    http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/bz/bz_effects.shtml
    ,,frank hallucinations, elaborate interaction with hallucinations, confabulation (giving plausible-but-false explanations for bizarre behavior) , paranoia, fear, unease night terrors (vivid, open-eyed hallucinations with a nightmare quality), confusion, delirium, impaired cognitive function, perseveration (fixation on words or themes, inability to disengage from them), ...''

    http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/bz/bz_timeline.php
    ,,1962 U.S. military allocates 2 million dollars to the construction of a facility designed exclusively for weaponizing coventional bombs with BZ.
    1962 - 1964 U.S. army produced over 100,000 pounds of BZ for use in Vietnam.''

    and this is one nice movie which is related to that BZ chemical http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099871/
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    Only had a quick look through this but has anyone said 'Crystal Meth' yet?

    Ket is powerful don't get me wrong but to have that sort of reaction? That is some serious hardcore use. But with Meth, people don't sleep for days on end. Think of the sleep deprivation alone once somebody has not slept for 3 days. And even when you have come down the effects of it are still in your blood for the next couple of days. Wizzing about at hundred mile an hour. Basically it's 'Speed' x100!!! I lived in Thailand for years so i've seen the effects caused on people. One person i know has only half his teeth left after a 3 year spree on the stuff. The one's left are rotting and will eventually have to be pulled out at 38 years of age! Believe me i've seen quite sane people loose the absolute minds on this.. From normal people with everything going for them to loosing their worldly possessions in a heartbeat.

    Think there was a famous case in a lads mag where a bloke had smoked Crystal and cut his face off with some glass and fed it to his dog...!

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    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)
    Hey mate,

    I suspect "special K", or ketamine, if used by unprepared persons, can make people do such stupid things as trying to eat another man´s face.

    Cheers,

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    lol

    usually, an unprepared person would do a 'normal' sized line
    and drop straight into a K-hole for an hour!

    that would be them immobile.
    it effectively shuts down the logical side of the brain.
    leaving ONLY, the abstract, energetic side.
    you cant really think, or speak. and physical co ordination is massively impared. its hard enough just trying to move forwards,
    so i cant see how one could muster the required momentum to bring a man down, and eat his face off.

    having actually done the stuff myself, i can tell that you've never touched it. so i wonder why you would speak of it in such negative terms.
    that you suspect ketamine is making people into flesh eating zombies?
    where did that 'suspicion' come from?

    cheers
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    This reminds me of the drug in the film Jacob's Ladder which incidentally if you have not watched it is a must.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob%2...der_%28film%29

    The drug in this film is called the ladder, developed by army chemists to take soldiers to the primal base level. Unfortunately it has horrendous repercussions.
    Although fictional it is based on actual army experiments.

    Psychotropic’s like LSD in the mind of one can bring bliss and mind expanding experiences, in another if certain environments are created it can take someone to hell. Of course as Carmody has suggested the mixes that are happening now are increasing the chances of going to hell.

    I think this is a warning to people out there to be careful if you are going to get involved with Psychotropics.

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    Quote Posted by SKAWF (here)
    so i wonder why you would speak of it in such negative terms.
    that you suspect ketamine is making people into flesh eating zombies?
    where did that 'suspicion' come from?
    Hey mate,

    My opinion is based on experience.

    I wont get into details about it here, since we´re on a public forum.

    Besides, I´m not saying it is special K. I´m saying it could be it, mixed with alcohol and other drugs.

    You may want to research about the use of ketamine in Vietnam as well.

    Regards,

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    The other possibility, then, is that we could be looking at a 'mundane' exaggeration, of an absurd and unusual situation, but not one that is entirely absent in the annals of crazed history and activities.

    For example, in the days of yore, when magazines where the normal method of data transfer, there used to be these 'true crime' type magazines on the magazine racks. They were published each month. some of their stories were recycled, but those stories would be enough to make your stomach turn and hair stand on end. Stories of vicious homicidal crime that was so far gone that there was no way the average person and their family where going to like having it in the public purview of the 'normal' world. thus, these magazines were born onto the world, as there was an audience for such things. Morbid curiosity.

    Thus, to observe, to keep an eye on, to watch for this occurrence of high strangeness, but it is not entirely out of the norm. It is a 'peak' or extreme situation and result, but not unheard of.

    I mean, Jefferey Dahmer gets a headliner and is catapulted into infamy, but the number of similar cases that were one step less far gone, are maybe 10x more common. But not reported to the public.

    Perhaps there is more to it, thus the 'keeping it in the back of one's mind' as a data point.
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    Anyway people, Ketamin is tranquilizer. And a very powerful one at that. So if it can put elephants on their ass surly matey boy trying have a chew on his mates face would be night nights.

    There is loads more to this.. just gotta wait for it to come out

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    so i wonder why you would speak of it in such negative terms.
    that you suspect ketamine is making people into flesh eating zombies?
    where did that 'suspicion' come from?
    Hey mate,

    My opinion is based on experience.

    I wont get into details about it here, since we´re on a public forum.

    Besides, I´m not saying it is special K. I´m saying it could be it, mixed with alcohol and other drugs.

    You may want to research about the use of ketamine in Vietnam as well.

    Regards,

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    mmmmm, what you actually said was....

    ''I suspect "special K", or ketamine, if used by unprepared persons, can make people do such stupid things as trying to eat another man´s face.''

    just my opinion, but that is so far away from the whole 'K' experience that my guess was that you'd never done it. several people has also pointed out that 'k' just isnt like that.

    then you said

    ''Hey mate,

    My opinion is based on experience.'' (mmm ok.)

    I wont get into details about it here, since we´re on a public forum. (Mmmmmmmm.............ok.)

    ''Besides, I´m not saying it is special K. I´m saying it could be it, mixed with alcohol and other drugs.''

    you actually did say that you suspected ketamine. you singled it out.
    especially to 'unprepared' people. no mention about mixing it with anything. and if your going to say that its combinations of drugs now....
    not just ketamine, then there's no point in singling out just one drug.

    ''You may want to research about the use of ketamine in Vietnam as well.''

    yeah your right, i should probably get my facts straight before opening my mouth.

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    when i went there nothing happened!, i was bored out of my mind..................in the Twilight Zone.

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