Tell us all what you believe.

[Carmody]

Posted by Carmody (here)
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It is but a moment of realization, but the origins of all fears/desires in the human system need be addressed, in order to get to that moment that makes it finally work. Where love and compassion are finally given their due, and integrate with the human body in an intensity that out weighs the other two. (fear/desire). when that happens, the view,and thus the input and output data system shift to this more correct orientation, of Love and Compassion.

Therefore, absolute, complete, total failure, with no way out, must be on your mind and in it... before the problems can be overcome.

Are any of you there yet?

This is what I mean:

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nzXBcX452o

Who are you to complain
For lack of understanding?
We are all created equal
In just one thing alone

Alone in your thoughts that consume you through your life
They'll take you outwards to the dark edge of time
And there's nothing more dangerous
Than a man with nothing to lose
Nothing to live for
And nothing to prove

And that person, is many times..well..something like a Buddhist. they have cleared themselves, they do not fear, they know they have nothing to loose. They have nothing to prove, and they are done living, they are free.

And in that moment, they find everything.

[aranuk]

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)

Posted by markpierre (here)
I believe that beliefs are a pathology. That included.

Beliefs are a very pure substitute for knowing.


All is well


Jorr

I agree Jorr, but when we don't know a guess is better than nothing.

Stan

[aranuk]

Posted by Carmody (here)
The core of the avatar's design, is that it must break before it can change, Dennis. The combination of fears, nightmare, solution, action and dream.

Oddly, the moment that the psyche/ego of humankind (individual and group) feels it has a hope, it hesitates, waits, backslides...and is, in that moment.... doomed to wait again.

Hope is necessary, but it is also borne (connectivity-but not solely) out of the body's desires and fears. Think of it more as a point of contemplation, this 'hope' thing. A thing that creates thought.... helps rumination, contemplation - 'be'.

As long as a body shapes the origins of thought, then hope as a failure -- is key to success.

It is but a moment of realization, but the origins of all fears/desires in the human system need be addressed, in order to get to that moment that makes it finally work. Where love and compassion are finally given their due, and integrate with the human body in an intensity that out weighs the other two. (fear/desire). when that happens, the view,and thus the input and output data system shift to this more correct orientation, of Love and Compassion.

Therefore, absolute, complete, total failure, with no way out, must be on your mind and in it... before the problems can be overcome.

Are any of you there yet?

Hi Carmody, are these your beliefs or are you stating an opinion here? I am unsure what they are. I was looking for peoples beliefs especially, the things we do NOT know but the things we believe.

Stan

[aranuk]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
Hi Stan, great thread my friend. Short and sweet, no belief here. I'm a tired, beaten down old soul who's just about done it all, both good and bad, and now it's simply time to start heading for home. It's late.

Cheers Mate,
Fred

Hi Fred, so you don't have any beliefs then? I don't believe you. Now where does that leave me? Without a belief? No. I believe you are telling a lie. I am not saying you ARE telling a lie. I am saying I BELIEVE you are telling a lie.

Stan

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by aranuk (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
Hi Stan, great thread my friend. Short and sweet, no belief here. I'm a tired, beaten down old soul who's just about done it all, both good and bad, and now it's simply time to start heading for home. It's late.

Cheers Mate,
Fred

Hi Fred, so you don't have any beliefs then? I don't believe you. Now where does that leave me? Without a belief? No. I believe you are telling a lie. I am not saying you ARE telling a lie. I am saying I BELIEVE you are telling a lie.

Stan

I believe you Stan...

[aranuk]

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
Aranuk wrote:

If you are going to post here, please post what you believe to be so. This way we can get an idea where we all agree. Then and only then will we be able to discuss where we want to go from there in trying to improve this earth.

I just have to comment on this one. No, I dont have to, youll have to

unmask wots crazy in this statement yourself. A little hint though.

If this had worked, why do you think we are in this mess? LOL

Once I pretended to be a believer, that one has gone back to source.

Just sayin





All is well


Jorr

Jorr with respect Sir, you have not stated anything at all about what you believe. This was the main idea of this thread. You say this world is in a mess but you contradict yourself by signing off with "All is well" You are also commenting on other peoples beliefs. That's not the idea here at all.

Stan

[aranuk]

Posted by Carolin (here)
I believe that the universe is cyclical and that we take our little lives too seriously.

Hi Carolin, is that all you believe? If so you must have a vast amount of knowledge.

Stan

[karelia]

There is a powerful elite that run the planet. They may or may not have ET/ED help.

I agree.

They are in control of most advanced countries' political systems. Most of all the other ones too.

I would say all known countries/states.

They prevent honest politicians (in my view there are not many) from taking office and only allow the corrupt villains to take high office.

Agreed. It takes either a huge ego (the majority of cases) or a true STO-orientation towards the best of one's nation to become a politician. Even if they start out with truly benevolent intentions, I'd say about 99.5% will be corrupted by the end of their first year in politics.

Their methods are corruption of all kinds, no need to mention them all here.

Corruption, deceit, lies...

They TPTB (notice that I didn't say TPTW) I will believe that when I see it. And when I do I will be so happy.

I trust the PTB are on their way out. The way I see it is that they were sent here as a tool for humanity. But somewhere on the way, they forgot it was a game, and they've been playing way too hard, so now it's time to put a stop to it, so to speak.

They use chem trails to poison us.

No doubt about that. Though I'm quite sure there is more to chemtrails. I forgot who it was, I think it was an interview Kerry did, who suggested that chemtrails actually act as a layer between the "rays" (for lack of better word) focused on humanity to increase consciousness. That makes absolute sense to me.

They are trying to get the population of the planet down to 500 million.

I don't know the number, but yes, they are working on reducing the population. Just look at "conventional" medicine and the food industry. They are doing a pretty good job reducing the numbers.

Religions have been keeping the people misinformed for thousands of years. That has to be stopped.

Word! The endless ritualising of every aspect of life has to be stopped as well. If you look not just at churches but schools, hospitals, even shopping, it's all about ritual, and most of it quite sinister.

ET/ED's I still have not made up my mind, however, going what a lot of people say on the Camelot interviews I must say it looks pretty certain they are around.

They exist; of that I have no doubt. Both negative and positive.

UFO's Although I have never seen any, there are far too many sightings all over the world, to be a hoax.

There are plenty of unidentified flying objects in the sky, so yes, they do exist. There are also vehicles used for galactic travels, I'm pretty sure they exist.

Alternative medicine I go along with.

I've learned over the years that a lot of ailments can be dissolved by diet as well as thought. I would use alternative medicine as a last resort, and conventional medicine is not something I would even remotely consider.

Contactees: I don't know. Nice stories. However there are many reports of contactees under hypnosis that seems to verify it all. I believe there is truth in a lot of the cases.

Unless I've dreamed it all and can't differentiate between dreams and reality, yes, contact with ETs is a very real thing, though I suspect that what we call ETs may not be all that extraterrestrial.

Channelling: I did it with 16 childrens stories 14 yrs ago. Why not other people. I'm sure there are imposters.

I think the vast majority of channeling goes wrong because either the being coming through is a negative entity or the channeler has subjective perception (which is absolutely normal for humans in this reality). So far, I think pretty much the only exceptions are the Seth Material (Jane Roberts) and the Ra material, and perhaps Barbara Marciniak.

All the Camelot whistleblowers I tend to believe until I know they are lying. There again some of them may be telling 90% the truth and elaborating a wee bit of lies here and there to make the story easier to believe.

In a world where everything is upside-down, I think it's very, very hard, if not impossible, to speak nothing but truth. Many whistleblowers, or even most, are probably convinced they tell the truth, even if it isn't the absolute truth or if the truth is interlaced with lies. So, yes, I agree with you there, too.

[aranuk]

Please.

Stan

[aranuk]

There is as Dr Carl Jung called a complex here. There is an absence here of certain people who usually make a lot of noise regarding other peoples beliefs. They most likely feel vulnerable if they divulge their beliefs, unlike most of us here.

Very interesting.

Stan

[ulli]

Posted by aranuk (here)
There is as Dr Carl Jung called a complex here. There is an absence here of certain people who usually make a lot of noise regarding other peoples beliefs. They most likely feel vulnerable if they divulge their beliefs, unlike most of us here.

Very interesting.

Stan

Clever Stan. And what a brilliant conclusion to a great thread.

[Wantsthetruth74]

I believe chemtrails serve many purposes.

[Wind]

I believe in many things, but mostly in purpose. Everything happens for a reason. I believe that everything is going to change very soon.... For the better.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VX7I0kOVx4

[RMorgan]

Posted by aranuk (here)
There is as Dr Carl Jung called a complex here. There is an absence here of certain people who usually make a lot of noise regarding other peoples beliefs. They most likely feel vulnerable if they divulge their beliefs, unlike most of us here.

Very interesting.

Stan

Hey Stan,

I agree with you on this one.

However, it´s normal to get lost sometimes, specially relating to beliefs.

Everyone here is a little bit lost, otherwise, we wouldn´t be here, trying to find answers, trying to find what to believe.

Maybe some people aren´t posting their thoughts here because they simply don´t know what to believe. This is quite normal and understandable.

Frankly, I don´t give so much credit to my beliefs either...

I don´t actually fully believe in beliefs!

Cheers,

Raf.

[SilentFeathers]

Just by surfing through the many threads here in this forum one can get a good perspective on what many members/posters beliefs are. I'm sure just in the short time I've been posting on this forum a few have picked up on some of my beliefs......

We all leave a trail of something behind us

[gripreaper]

I believe that every aspect of the control matrix has been completely imbedded in our very nature and our very DNA down through the millennium of our many incarnations, and our five senses are constantly inundated with the mechanisms of control, in a very arrogant and unapologetic way nowadays, no longer in secret. I think of all the mechanisms of this matrix, religion and the bible has been and is the most pervasive and destructive of all of the systems.

The elite agenda, which many here have spoken of, is based in duality and all of the extreme polarities of that duality, as we collectively agreed to as souls to this 3D experience here, to come here and experience all of the polarized states of this duality so that we could know who we are, as aspects of the creator. In order to animate light fractals they must oscillate between these two polarities, so "good and evil" must both be present at this density in order to animate life.

Yet, once we realize that the matrix of duality and the experience of the 5 senses is complete and that the polarized negative state has been fed to us by the elite controllers, and the whole thing is one big friggin lie, how do we live in this density knowing that the negative polarity of this IS NOT all there is and that the positive aspects must bring this reality into balance.

It is this balance which we must view from a larger perspective, standing back from the canvas and seeing the bigger picture, from the experience not just through the five senses, but in addition our clairevoyant, clairesentient, and claireaudient senses, as well as the higher Siddhis of bilocation, remote viewing, levitation, etc. These are the abilities of our inheritance as gods, which have been summarily suppressed by the elite, and is our next step in the human evolution to return to source, and awaken to these higher senses and powers, and become who we truly are.

So, enlightenment and ascension, in my belief, is the ability to hold the fulness of the electromagnetic light spectrum in the body, and to evolve from carbon based low density beings trapped in this matrix, into crystalline light beings holding the fulness of light (enlightenment) IN OUR BODIES right here on this earth, moment to moment.

This is a conscious effort, to not ingest any of the toxic poisons in our air, food, and water, and to take up a spiritual practice which moves the brain from is slow beta state to the delta trance state, where being stuck in Samsara changes to the state of Samadhi.

{edit} by the way, thanks for this thread Stan. After looking at the matrix for so long and what is wrong, it's refreshing to get down to what we all believe and how that is part of our manifestation going forward.

[aranuk]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
There is as Dr Carl Jung called a complex here. There is an absence here of certain people who usually make a lot of noise regarding other peoples beliefs. They most likely feel vulnerable if they divulge their beliefs, unlike most of us here.

Very interesting.

Stan

Hey Stan,

I agree with you on this one.

However, it´s normal to get lost sometimes, specially relating to beliefs.

Everyone here is a little bit lost, otherwise, we wouldn´t be here, trying to find answers, trying to find what to believe.

Maybe some people aren´t posting their thoughts here because they simply don´t know what to believe. This is quite normal and understandable.

Frankly, I don´t give so much credit to my beliefs either...

I don´t actually fully believe in beliefs!

Cheers,

Raf.

Yes Raf. You say you don't fully believe in beliefs. I know I have beliefs. I also know that my beliefs are a substitute for knowing too. Some people mistake their beliefs as truths. They may of course be the truth which they are or they are not.
I will stop myself here as I am losing my way in semantics.

Stan

[Peace of Mind]

I believe everyday humans are becoming more aware of themselves, the lies, and our collective problems...therefore, it is in my belief that we will eventually overcome any and all issues. Most of our problems stems from trust. As we begin to realize this... we begin to open ourselves up more to each other (as you can see).

I believe we (humanity) will be O.K...after all, our issues are a result of our blind intentions. We can remedy this easy and save ourselves....I'm witnessing the times of us choosing to stay sick and/or commit suicide dwindling.

Peace

[mountain_jim]

Well this thread has certainly stimulated my thought process today, and I appreciate all the contributions and effort it took to write them...

I point to a quote in my sig as how I try to relate to beliefs:

I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. - Robert Anton Wilson

but of course I don't fully succeed at maintaining that position.

I want to highlight here an area of 'belief' that I did not have up until recently, but contributions here and research elsewhere have lead me to give credence to the following, well summarized by Gordon Duff in a post today

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/05...l-correctness/

The real conspiracies are so much worse than the ones the phony activists talk about, you would be scared to death. Thousands of phony internet sites, hundreds of phony “activists” exist only to send us all chasing our tales. The truth? If you think it involves birth certificates or mortgages, you are a dupe. What is it really? Even I get threatened when I get too close.

Some odd facts:

1.The primary religion of Jesuits, high ranking Evangelical Christians, members of powerful organizations (we all know the list), congress and the Pentagon is Satanism. The number of high level confirmations I have on this are frightening. The more “Christian” or “religious” people appear, the more Satanist they are.
2.Satanists are bad.
3.Bad means they are immoral, they commit hideous acts using their power as cover and have total control of our courts and law enforcement mechanism and the leadership of both political parties.

This is a fact, like it or not. Your favorite leader is probably a Satanist. How I am told you can tell is that if someone lacks biting intellect and charisma yet holds a position of power, they have turned to Satan for help.

Do I believe this? I am not a religious person, but this was the guy who first explained this to me. Others since have confirmed and confirmed and confirmed:


YouTube - Veterans Today -

Excuse the 3 hours but ignoring a powerful belief that effects our lives every day more than simple denial. As Father Martin had told me years ago, when Christianity “quit delivering the goods,” wealth and power, those who seek wealth and power turned elsewhere.

If we are ruled, not governed, then it is by those seeking power, certainly we have seen the planet looted of every resource, real and imaginary with a Luciferian bent, organ theft, human trafficking, wholesale government sanctioned slaughter, poisoning of the earth, believing in Satan or following Satan isn’t so hard to accept when the evidence is overwhelming.

Who is our government, what is the source of world government, the financial cabals, the plots, the secret alliances, the reasons for the lies, the hate, war after war and religion always at the center of the worst of it?

But then, though the nature of all “religions of the book” is a belief in Satan or Lucifer and of demonic possession, it is politically incorrect to recognize it when it is staring you in the face.

Now that I (largely) believe that the above is (edit : may-be) true, how do I deal with that?

I understand that this is a 3D, duality, free-will part of the Universe.

I know from succesfull 'victories' over past attempts of (astral/4D/archonic?) entities to alter my perceived reality, scare me and feed on my fear, to attempt to control or subjugate me -

that within me, heart-based (in 3D physical body), is my connection to Source which allows and encourages me to stand up and assert my Light against such attempted incursions by Dark

I choose, as part of Intending my Reality, to believe that Help is Here to Awaken many Souls to this, and our collective-awareness-increase and rise in abilities now allow us to create a better shared-reality.

We are in the early stages of the process of fixing this mess, overcoming this Evil, and changing this Earth.

Other beliefs based on personal experience that contribute to my optimism:

Kundalini, the base-of-spine energy, is real, was awakened in my youth, and has over the years cleared out many obstructions and transformed my avatar instrument (raising vibration, 3rd Eye visual awareness, intuitive truth divining, reality-creating enhancements, etc.) , and these energies and changes have really started accelerating in the last year or so.

We are not our bodies - I have had (a few) out-of-body experiences, have had remote viewing or remote presense, one experience that crossed into the 'past' for an event I had wished to have attended. In the OBE I realized 'I' AM/WAS there, as 'I' am/was everywhere else 'I' might ever need or want to be.

We are not just trapped in a 'Soul Farm' , as food for negative archonic entities. (as someone on this forum stated as their understanding yesterday).

When I experienced a perceptual travelling thru a vortex or tunnel toward's the Light at the Center, I experienced my connection to Source such that I 'knew' that Love is All and that these negative entities do not own or control my spark of Divinity or Source Connection.

Actually, I view Earth as a Soul classroom (similar to Newton's subjects' regressions), and a Farm only to the extent that Souls do Grow here, but not ultimately for the benefit of Dark Service To Self Beings... Their time of ascendancy is on the wane, I Know (or choose to believe, time will tell) ....

[MargueriteBee]

I believe in nothing.