A Question for Bill Ryan re: Kerry Cassidy/ FWHO/Randy Maugans and Duncan O ' Finioan

[Christine]

Hello Friends,

I have only one thing to comment on ALL of this back and forth bickering - - it is most unhelpful, an useless use of energy and worst a TOTAL discredit to the work of once intelligent people. I guess the PTB got their way on this one.

STOP! THINK!

Geez, this looks like the PEOPLE magazine of the alternative media.

[Rupertmoon]

Posted by seeingterra (here)
Bill, would you do me a favor and answer this: Do you really blame Jack Burns, as in what Duncan writes? Please specify what part about it if you don't mind, bear in mind what I also quoted above.

I mean absolutely no offence, but kinda important

Thank you

As for the rest (meaning everyone, not Bill), I advise you to look very hard at the track record of all these people. I have no desire to throw more fuel on this dying fire, but I urge you for your own discernment's sake to look harder at the actual facts and don't take anyone's word for anything.

I will try and be clear. The issue is not the track record of Kerry, Randy or Duncan. The issue is why Duncan and Randy felt it necessary to call Kerry out on this. Was it for website hits or increased listener ship. No. Has Kerry responded publicly to their claims. No. Tommy, you have. Kerry's incredible work, along with Bill's, has been acknowledged by both of them. This is not their ego or power trip. If anything they may feel they are doing Kerry a favour in the long term by calling her out on these issues.

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Posted by La Tigra (here)
Hello Friends,

I have only one thing to comment on ALL of this back and forth bickering - - it is most unhelpful, an useless use of energy and worst a TOTAL discredit to the work of once intelligent people. I guess the PTB got their way on this one.

STOP! THINK!

Geez, this looks like the PEOPLE magazine of the alternative media.

Occasionally a bicker is needed, we'll get over it.

[WhiteFeather]

Hey Bill: Is Dolores Cannon fake as well. Please let me know. If so then i can give up totally on my spiritual acid trip and start watching TV again.

[jackovesk]

Posted by alamojo (here)
I lost all respect for Duncan when he mocked David Wilcock for crying after he got a death threat. What kind of person does this?

Could we re-phrase this to...

I lost all respect for David Wilcock when he said it was Ok to Kill people through the 'Death Penalty'. What kind of 'Spiritual' person does this?

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p3XM2WtDW4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p3XM2WtDW4

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Rupertmoon (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Rupertmoon (here)
Bill

I am putting this to you and would appreciate hearing your perspective and where you stand on this matter. There has been no public statement from Kerry in regard to what Randy and Duncan have suggested about her. This has created a further divide within the alternative media and in the attached post Duncan has asked for all his testimony and videos to be removed from the Camelot site.

http://duncanofinioan.wordpress.com/...n-up/#comments

I am not sure how aware you are of events that have transpired in recent months, but if you follow Randy Maugans blog and latest entry, he has summarised the situation here.

http://exotica-radio.squarespace.com...needed-cr.html

Bottom line. There are some strange anomalies between the Former White Hat's blog and the fact that Kerry has repeatedly posted links to his blog, including the day after it was initially set up. This individual is clearly reading from a script, prepared by a 'higher' authority, and has made defamatory and slanderous remarks about huge numbers in the alternative community, including yourself and many that have come out of mind control projects. However Kerry initially called him 'harmless' and was the FIRST person to link to his site, the day after she returned from 'Belize', thus conveniently giving him great traffic numbers. Coincidence? Coupled with this is the recent tendency of Kerry to throw the 'mind control' card at anyone who she happens to disagree with and also the fact that she has not made a public statement refuting what Randy and Duncan have said about her, which initially began with a question over her defence of Richard Hoagland.

As a result her integrity is being questioned and the possibility that she herself may be under the influence of another's agenda, unknowingly?

I would appreciate your perspective on this as I feel you could provide the balance between Kerry and Duncan and Randy and help to unify as opposed divide. I strongly feel that this is a deliberate fracturing of certain alternative communities, by parties that have been called names like alphabets and tptb, to prevent us from coming together and presenting a more united, solution based front.

Sincerely

Richard

A little more: my previous post was not a full reply.

• A lot of people -- Randy Maugans included, apparently! -- do not realize that the "Former White Hat's blog" is a comedy site. (It really is.) The funniest part of it is that quite a few people take it seriously. Kerry knows this is comedy. (Come on, Randy, wake up!)

• I read Duncan's blog post. He's right about Jack Burns.

Bill,

From what Randy has written and said he is aware that FWH is a 'comedy' site. That is not the issue. However he does not put it into that bracket. I don't think he believes it should even be called that. According to him those comments have hurt many people that have come out of the projects and it has not just been comments on a blog, i think the attacks have been more than verbal. In the words of Duncan and Randy it hasn't been 'harmless' at all. It is obviously a distraction. There question is the anomalies regarding the timing of that distraction and Kerry's relationship to those anomalies. Rightly or wrongly. She has not publicly refuted them.

In that case, Randy Maugans should know better than to showcase this stuff.

As LA TIGRA says a couple of posts above, even discussing this is ridiculous nonsense considering what the real issues are in the world.

Final word: "Former White Hat" is very funny: he really tries hard, sometimes, to let people know he's a comedian -- but people still believe his increasingly ludicrous posts. I can imagine the kick he gets out of that.

My own bottom line: the alternative community is not always very bright, discerning, or aware. (Sorry: it has to be said.) Way too many are easily fooled, easily distracted, and easily tempted into playing very small games.

[WhiteFeather]

The Trolls are loving this thread arent they. Yup everyone in the new age circuit is full of horse manure. Now we can give up hope and go back to sleep. Nothing going on here peeps move on....... you were in dream land all along. The Trolls did what they set out for. Creating Chaos In The Spiritual Community. Now you can go get your swine flu shots, eat your Gmo foods, take prescription meds and brush your teeth 4 times a day with flouride. The Chemtrails are really good for our environment. The government meant well all along and were only protecting us. . Its all been a big lie. But for now, I think i will sit back and watch some Richard Simmons Exercise Reruns. All is good. Getting ready to go back to sleep. Shhhhh And Please be quiet. Gotta get some shut eye.

Peace

[Rupertmoon]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Rupertmoon (here)
Bill,

From what Randy has written and said he is aware that FWH is a 'comedy' site. That is not the issue. However he does not put it into that bracket. I don't think he believes it should even be called that. According to him those comments have hurt many people that have come out of the projects and it has not just been comments on a blog, i think the attacks have been more than verbal. In the words of Duncan and Randy it hasn't been 'harmless' at all. It is obviously a distraction. There question is the anomalies regarding the timing of that distraction and Kerry's relationship to those anomalies. Rightly or wrongly. She has not publicly refuted them.

In that case, Randy Maugans should know better than to showcase this stuff.

As LA TIGRA says a couple of posts above, even discussing this is ridiculous nonsense considering what the real issues are in the world.

Final word: "Former White Hat" is very funny: he really tries hard, sometimes, to let people know he's a comedian -- but people still believe his stuff. I can imagine the kick he gets out of that.

My own bottom line: the alternative community is not always very bright, discerning, or aware. (Sorry: it has to be said.) Way too many are easily fooled, easily distracted, and easily tempted into playing very small games.

Thanks for the reply Bill.

We will agree to disagree on FWH being funny. His work in the pornography world I would not view that way. I will close off my side of this thread with this. As stated when starting this thread, I was hoping to work on getting Bill to broker a truce between these parties, as I know he respects and HAS the respect of both sides. I do not feel this splintering that has occurred is a small game, as i believe the two camps working together would be a bigger slap in the face to the tptb. I hope to see that truce materialize again in the not to distant future.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I've never thought of Avalon as Alternative...

it's entertainment and knowledge that keeps us coming back, in a glance top current stories are discussed from all sides...

the awakening happens through curiosity, the more out there sharing what they understand, the more people find it interesting by choosing venues they prefer...

listening to Alex Jones is like aerobic exercise the way it gets your heart pumping and mind racing...

he might only be right 1 out of 10 times, but people listen through those 9 waiting for the nugget...

same thing for everyone involved...

when they are having fun, we are...

I'm more upset by the nitpickers who actually heard a story they didn't believe and spend their time talking about how terrible someone is across every forum... flip the channel and move on, plenty to see and learn without being dragged down by negativity.

if they make me laugh, I stick around, if I come across them again, I see what's new...

I'll admit 10 words in I'm clicking next in some... because there isn't a connection with topic or speaker...

but why waste time sharing that news with anyone...

I'd rather be talking how recent flares are causing quakes in Italy, and how much wilder is this ride going to get?

anyone that thinks they know an answer I'm all ears, but my hinky meter is pretty good...

Bring it on...

[WhiteFeather]

"I'm more upset by the nitpickers who actually heard a story they didn't believe and spend their time talking about how terrible someone is across every forum... flip the channel and move on, plenty to see and learn without being dragged down by negativity."

Rocky Shorz

My thoughts exactly......Wanishi

[CdnSirian]

Gotta say Richard Simmons reruns will keep us alive longer than much of this. Yet, appreciate the input, all.

[Amzer Zo]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
Hey Bill: Is Dolores Cannon fake as well. Please let me know. If so then i can give up totally on my spiritual acid trip and start watching TV again.

Sorry, me no Bill, but I would suggest for you to check this post (#435), watch first the 5 videos of the guy's research then listen to what Dolores says, last... draw your own conclusion.

[parcival]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
Hey Bill: Is Dolores Cannon fake as well. Please let me know. If so then i can give up totally on my spiritual acid trip and start watching TV again.

Personally, I have disregarded everything DC has stated ever since those ridiculous Nostradamus books of hers turned out to be totally bogus.

[parcival]

I love FWH!

Where else can you read about the "Confederation of kittens" and their ongoing battle against the "Alva Consciousness from the Realms of Abbadon"!!

Hey, I'm still laughing after weeks of him "breaking" that gem...Come on you guys, laugh a little!

[Black Panther]

Posted by humanalien (here)
It is my belief that out of all the Wilcocks, Fulfords, Kettlers, White Hats,
Cassidy's and all the rest, the only people speaking the truth is Duncan
O'finion and Alex Jones.

Everyone else is out to make a profit from stories they make up.

So of all the people in the alternative world
there are two people telling the truth.



Why didn't you tell me before...

[Wantsthetruth74]

Whether or not the blog is code, it is not to be taken literally.

[9eagle9]

Eye rolling sometimes doesn't get your point across very clearly whilst on line?

David created a drama and so some people treated it exactly that way. Those who knew it was a drama responded to the drama differently than those who wanted to participate in the drama.

Posted by alamojo (here)
I lost all respect for Duncan when he mocked David Wilcock for crying after he got a death threat. What kind of person does this?

[WhiteFeather]

Just finished 10 long exhilarating exercises from Richard Simmons series of videos last nite. God i feel better already . Off to the doctor now to get my H1N1 shot. Stopping by Dunkin Donuts to get a large iced cappuccino loaded with aspartame. Dont worry The Food and Drug Cartel said its fine. Trusting the government know is true bliss. Wish me luck. Cant wait to have my DNA destroyed.

[gripreaper]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
Just finished 10 long exhilarating exercises from Richard Simmons series of videos last nite. God i feel better already . Off to the doctor now to get my H1N1 shot. Stopping by Dunkin Donuts to get a large iced cappuccino loaded with aspartame. Dont worry The Food and Drug Cartel said its fine. Trusting the government know is true bliss. Wish me luck. Cant wait to have my DNA destroyed.

I'm not sure, once you take the red pill and you can see the matrix, that you can stuff your awakening back in the box and go back to sleep. I've tried and it does not work.

[aranuk]

I know how you are feeling Whitefeather. I have felt like joining back with sheeple and just believing in the MSM myself lately.

Stan

[Cartomancer]

Hey. If Carrie and Bill are putting out info from "whistleblowers" then it is just common sense to know that a few of them won't pan out and will turn out to be frauds. That is the chance you take. It is easy for any of us to be mislead. In fact it is possible that there is more "offbeat" information out there designed to lead you down the wrong path away from the truth.

It is up to each of us to see and hear what these people say and make our own decisions. Either way thanks to Carrie and Bill for wanting to expose different opinions and information. It shouldn't reflect on them to the degree that we mistrust them because of people misleading them. This happens to all of us through the normal course of our lives but isn't broadcast all over the internet etc.

Seeing and understanding how one may have been mislead is just as valuable as any legit information. Thanks to Carrie and Bill for putting the info in our faces.