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    Another great article from Dr. Mercola's site today, this one on fluoride.
    The battle being waged by Fluoride Action Network in the US is heating up, now that they have had some strategic victories in Canada.
    This article has some great links for people who want to know more and/or get involved, and an embedded video.

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...529_HLNL_art_2

    Here are some excerpts:
    Quote CDC's Support for Water Fluoridation Based on Flimsy, Insufficient Data

    Last April, the CDC responded to an FOIA request asking for the names and job descriptions of all parties at the CDC who have had input into the agency's decision to support water fluoridation.i

    As it turns out, ever since the mid-1970s, when fluoridation activities transferred from the Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) to the CDC under the directorship of William Bock, dental health professionals have been the sole body of experts directing the agency's stance on water fluoridation. Glaringly absent from this list are ... well, any health expert outside the Oral Health Division. Apparently, no toxicologist has ever been directly involved in the decision process, nor any minority health professionals, or experts on internal medicine or diabetes, for example.

    This flies in the face of what the agency claims, and what water-, health- and political leaders have believed about the way the CDC operates. Without these additional experts from other fields, can we reasonably believe that the agency has properly assessed the research on whole-body harm from fluoridation?

    While the CDC officially claims that "extensive research conducted over the past 60 years has shown that fluoridation of public water supplies is safe and effective for all community residents,"ii this claim appears to have the flimsiest of foundations.

    According to a 2006 report from the National Research Council,iii extensive amounts of research are inconclusive, or still missing and need to be conducted to evaluate the whole-body impact of fluoride …

    Not only that, but their scientific review also identified research suggesting a variety of harmful effects, from skeletal fluorosis, bone fractures, and, potentially, even cancer. With that in mind, how can the CDC claim that "extensive research" has concluded water fluoridation is safe for ALL community residents, without differentiation between infants and adults, the sick or the healthy? Not to mention, how can the CDC accurately claim that water fluoridation is one of the top public health achievements of the last century?

    Water Fluoridation Blamed on Communist Conspiracy

    The other widely used propaganda piece noted in the video is from Stanley Kubrick's 1964 film Dr. Strangelove. In the film, General Jack D. Ripper tries to stop a Communist conspiracy to harm Americans with fluoridated water, and at one point states:

    "Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?"

    Of course, water fluoridation was not a communist plot -- it was started by the U.S. Public Health Service. But the film pokes fun at the John Birch Society, an extreme right wing group that happened to be anti-fluoridation. So, of course, anyone at the time who dared speak out against fluoridation was also ruled to be a fanatic, a radical or just a lunatic – even when they could point to legitimate science to back up their claims. This stigma has, unfortunately, stuck through the decades, although now the walls are beginning to crumble.

    Fluoride Harms Go "Mainstream"

    Earlier this year, the New Hampshire House of Representatives voted 253-23 in favor of mandating infant fluoride warnings on all water bills in fluoridated communities (the bill will now go to the Senate). According to the text of the bill, the warning would read, in part:

    "According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, if your child under the age of 6 months is exclusively consuming infant formula reconstituted with fluoridated water, there may be an increased chance of dental fluorosis."

    But dental fluorosis is not "just cosmetic." It can also be an indication that other tissues, such as your bones and internal organs, including your brain, have been overexposed to fluoride as well. There are more than 100 published studies illustrating fluoride's harm to the brain,iv plus 25 published studies directly linking fluoride exposure to reduced IQ in children! Fluoride is a toxic agent that is biologically active in the human body where it accumulates in sensitive tissues over time, wreaks havoc with enzymes and produces a number of serious adverse health effects—including neurological and endocrine dysfunctions.

    Adding insult to injury, even promoters of fluoridation now admit that fluoride's predominant action is on the surface of the tooth (although even this is now questionable) and not from inside the body – so why are so many Americans still being forced to swallow it? Swallowing fluoride provides little or no benefit to your teeth!

    Even China does NOT allow water fluoridation because it's too toxic and causes damage, according to their studies. Instead, the waste product from their phosphate fertilizer industry is shipped to the United States, where we add it to our water supply! This is a very important point: the fluoride added to your water is NOT even pharmaceutical grade.

    It's a toxic industrial waste product, which is also contaminated with lead, arsenic, radionucleotides, aluminum and other industrial contaminants. The story gets even more convoluted, as now declassified files of the Manhattan Project and the Atomic Energy Commission show that the original motivation for promoting fluoride and water fluoridation in the United States was to protect the bomb-, aluminum-, and other fluoride-polluting industries from liability. In the early days some of the sodium fluoride used to fluoridate water supplies in the U.S. came from Alcoa.

    A couple of years later, they switched to the even more hazardous waste product hydrofluorosilicic acid from the phosphate fertilizer industry. But none of the studies on fluoride actually used the far more toxic and contaminated hydrofluorosilicic acid that is presently added to the water supply. Rather, they use pharmaceutical-grade fluoride, which while harmful, is not quite as bad as what's being used for water fluoridation. So, the health hazards are likely FAR worse than any study has so far discerned.
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    Default Re: The Propaganda Supporting Fluoride and Why They Are Lies

    Excellent essay on fluoride by Mary Sparrowdancer: http://www.rense.com/general45/bll.htm

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    Thanks Conk, that really does look like an excellent essay.
    We are fighting a recent state wide fluoride mandate in Arkansas in my little community, and this looks like a good reference.
    The resistance and denial is incredible, but as long as the awake ones keep persisting, eventually we will get the desired results.
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    I've eliminated fluoride from my life for the single reason that it serves no purpose for health while causing major issues with one's pineal gland. The easy way out is to purchase drinking water from your local health food store that has gone through the reverse osmosis process. I then refuter it through a zero filter. I use this water for all drinking, cooking, etc and will continue to do so until I can install a proper reverse osmosis system in my home. I also use non-flouride toothpaste and non-flouride mouth wash. This pretty much covers most exposure to fluoride minus showering.

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    Breaking: Fluoride Linked to #1 Cause of Death in New Research
    Archive for Journal Nuclear Medicine Communications

    January 17th, 2012

    Quote Groundbreaking new research has linked sodium fluoride to cardiovascular disease, the leading cause of death worldwide. Researchers found that fluoride consumption directly stimulates the hardening of your arteries, a condition known as atherosclerosis that is highly correlated with the #1 killer. Sodium fluoride is currently added to the water supply of many cities worldwide, despite extreme opposition from health professionals and previous studies linking it to decreased IQ and infertility.

    In their research, scientists examined the relationship between fluoride intake and the hardening (calcification) of the arteries. Studying more than 60 patients, the researchers found a significant correlation between fluoride consumption and the calcification of your arteries. Published in the January edition of the journal Nuclear Medicine Communications, the research highlights the fact that mass fluoride exposure may be to blame for the cardiovascular disease epidemic that takes more lives each year than cancer. In 2008, cardiovascular killed 17 million people.

    Government Admits Dangers Yet Continues to Pump Fluoride Into Your Water Supply

    Over 24 other studies have unanimously concluded that fluoride negatively impacts cognitive function. In addition to these 24 studies focusing on cognition, over 100 animal studies have linked fluoride to an increase in male infertility, diabetes, and a whole host of other health problems.

    Fluoride should be completely removed from the international water supply as it is a threat to public health. Until the proper legislation is passed, acquiring a high-quality water filter that removes fluoride is vital for the health perseverance of you and your family.
    Read the full article here:
    http://naturalsociety.com/breaking-f...-new-research/

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    Hitler used it in concerntration camps to keep the prisoners docile and easy to controll.

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    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    I've eliminated fluoride from my life for the single reason that it serves no purpose for health while causing major issues with one's pineal gland. The easy way out is to purchase drinking water from your local health food store that has gone through the reverse osmosis process. I then refuter it through a zero filter. I use this water for all drinking, cooking, etc and will continue to do so until I can install a proper reverse osmosis system in my home. I also use non-flouride toothpaste and non-flouride mouth wash. This pretty much covers most exposure to fluoride minus showering.
    Careful, many foods are high in fluoride. Black tea is very high in content. Industrial farming also produces vegetables that are high in fluoride. You are certainly taking the best measures though. Watch out for it's cousin, bromine/bromides. These compounds are all classed as halogens. When the thyroid receptors look for the necessary iodine and it is absent, they will take up fluoride or bromide. Bromides are found in most breads. The thyroid will eventually fail without adequate iodine. All women with breast cancer are short of iodine.

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    so, black tea... should one avoid it for that reason?
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    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    This pretty much covers most exposure to fluoride minus showering.
    There are a variety of shower head filtration devices on the market that will remove fluoride, heavy metals, and other contaminants from the water coming out of your shower head.

    Such devices are relatively cheap to buy, quite simple to install, and well worth acquiring if it's feasible.

    Our skin absorbs considerable amounts of trace chemicals from the water that we bathe in, so if the intake can be reduced or eliminated via an inexpensive and simple solution, then it's a solution worth exploring IMO.

    This is particularly so for those wanting to protect their pineal (and other glands/organs) from the harmul effects of fluoride buildup/calcification.

    I installed one of these shower head filtration devices myself a couple of years back, and I'm really glad I did.

    The first thing I noticed (after a couple of weeks) was that my skin became much more healthy - smoother, better hydrated, less blemishes, less irritations.

    Also, I was amazed when I first changed the filter and found it was filled with black "gunk" - a mixture of heavy metals, chemicals, algae etc.

    The filter itself was unbelievably heavy for its size (I'm not exaggerating) - it was like holding a small lump of lead... I was truly astonished!

    Anyway, the point is there are a lot of heavy metals (and other crap) coming through our domestic water supplies, that much I know for certain! (at least where I live anyway)

    On another note, I have also installed a good quality water purification system for the kitchen, use herbal toothpasre, and try to grow as many vegetables as I can from home (fortunately for me I have bore water on my property - no chemicals but a little muddy)... the plants don't seem to mind though

    I try to do whatever I can to keep my physical (3D) body healthy, but as far as reducing fluoride goes I feel I'm doing everything I possibly can at the moment.

    I know my body thanks me for the effort I'm making - cos I feel great!

    That said, if anybody has any other good tips U'd certainly be very interested to hear them.

    Fluoride truly is nasty stuff, so the more we can help eachother to find ways and means of eliminating it from our lives... the better.

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    Quote Posted by D-DAY (here)
    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    This pretty much covers most exposure to fluoride minus showering.
    There are a variety of shower head filtration devices on the market that will remove fluoride, heavy metals, and other contaminants from the water coming out of your shower head.

    Such devices are relatively cheap to buy, quite simple to install, and well worth acquiring if it's feasible.

    Our skin absorbs considerable amounts of trace chemicals from the water that we bathe in, so if the intake can be reduced or eliminated via an inexpensive and simple solution, then it's a solution worth exploring IMO.

    This is particularly so for those wanting to protect their pineal (and other glands/organs) from the harmul effects of fluoride buildup/calcification.

    I installed one of these shower head filtration devices myself a couple of years back, and I'm really glad I did.

    The first thing I noticed (after a couple of weeks) was that my skin became much more healthy - smoother, better hydrated, less blemishes, less irritations.

    Also, I was amazed when I first changed the filter and found it was filled with black "gunk" - a mixture of heavy metals, chemicals, algae etc.

    The filter itself was unbelievably heavy for its size (I'm not exaggerating) - it was like holding a small lump of lead... I was truly astonished!

    Anyway, the point is there are a lot of heavy metals (and other crap) coming through our domestic water supplies, that much I know for certain! (at least where I live anyway)

    On another note, I have also installed a good quality water purification system for the kitchen, use herbal toothpasre, and try to grow as many vegetables as I can from home (fortunately for me I have bore water on my property - no chemicals but a little muddy)... the plants don't seem to mind though

    I try to do whatever I can to keep my physical (3D) body healthy, but as far as reducing fluoride goes I feel I'm doing everything I possibly can at the moment.

    I know my body thanks me for the effort I'm making - cos I feel great!

    That said, if anybody has any other good tips U'd certainly be very interested to hear them.

    Fluoride truly is nasty stuff, so the more we can help eachother to find ways and means of eliminating it from our lives... the better.

    Hey, your'e wrong with the shower heads.

    The only thing that removes flouride is a Reverse Osmosis filter. Those shower heads will eliminate the other nasties, tho, but the flouride still gets into you via your skin.

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    Berkey has special flouride filters. You have to purchase them separately to add to the regular black carbon type filters but they remove i think 99 percent of the flouride and other nasties. I don't think their shower head removes it though.

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    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    I've eliminated fluoride from my life for the single reason that it serves no purpose for health while causing major issues with one's pineal gland. The easy way out is to purchase drinking water from your local health food store that has gone through the reverse osmosis process. I then refuter it through a zero filter. I use this water for all drinking, cooking, etc and will continue to do so until I can install a proper reverse osmosis system in my home. I also use non-flouride toothpaste and non-flouride mouth wash. This pretty much covers most exposure to fluoride minus showering.
    Careful, many foods are high in fluoride. Black tea is very high in content. Industrial farming also produces vegetables that are high in fluoride. You are certainly taking the best measures though. Watch out for it's cousin, bromine/bromides. These compounds are all classed as halogens. When the thyroid receptors look for the necessary iodine and it is absent, they will take up fluoride or bromide. Bromides are found in most breads. The thyroid will eventually fail without adequate iodine. All women with breast cancer are short of iodine.
    Natural FLOURIDE that comes from the earth is ok for the mostpart.

    The artificial SODIUM FLOURIDE (Biproduct of Allimum processing) is what is toxic.

    And yes, i cant spell alliwhatsit.

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    Quote Posted by TigaHawk (here)
    Quote Posted by D-DAY (here)
    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    This pretty much covers most exposure to fluoride minus showering.
    There are a variety of shower head filtration devices on the market that will remove fluoride, heavy metals, and other contaminants from the water coming out of your shower head.

    Such devices are relatively cheap to buy, quite simple to install, and well worth acquiring if it's feasible.

    Our skin absorbs considerable amounts of trace chemicals from the water that we bathe in, so if the intake can be reduced or eliminated via an inexpensive and simple solution, then it's a solution worth exploring IMO.

    This is particularly so for those wanting to protect their pineal (and other glands/organs) from the harmul effects of fluoride buildup/calcification.

    I installed one of these shower head filtration devices myself a couple of years back, and I'm really glad I did.

    The first thing I noticed (after a couple of weeks) was that my skin became much more healthy - smoother, better hydrated, less blemishes, less irritations.

    Also, I was amazed when I first changed the filter and found it was filled with black "gunk" - a mixture of heavy metals, chemicals, algae etc.

    The filter itself was unbelievably heavy for its size (I'm not exaggerating) - it was like holding a small lump of lead... I was truly astonished!

    Anyway, the point is there are a lot of heavy metals (and other crap) coming through our domestic water supplies, that much I know for certain! (at least where I live anyway)

    On another note, I have also installed a good quality water purification system for the kitchen, use herbal toothpasre, and try to grow as many vegetables as I can from home (fortunately for me I have bore water on my property - no chemicals but a little muddy)... the plants don't seem to mind though

    I try to do whatever I can to keep my physical (3D) body healthy, but as far as reducing fluoride goes I feel I'm doing everything I possibly can at the moment.

    I know my body thanks me for the effort I'm making - cos I feel great!

    That said, if anybody has any other good tips U'd certainly be very interested to hear them.

    Fluoride truly is nasty stuff, so the more we can help eachother to find ways and means of eliminating it from our lives... the better.

    Hey, your'e wrong with the shower heads.

    The only thing that removes flouride is a Reverse Osmosis filter. Those shower heads will eliminate the other nasties, tho, but the flouride still gets into you via your skin.
    Hmm, that's very interesting.


    Here are a few links with information on the particular filter that I purchased to remove fluoride in my shower:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/OMICA-Zeolit...-/200655596669
    http://www.longevitywarehouse.com/Om...ilteromica.htm
    http://www.purelivingperoxide.com/pr...-shower-filter

    Each site seems to suggest that the product removes fluoride, but how can I be sure?

    Either it does - which is fine.

    Or it doesn't - in which case I should probably sue the manufacturer/distributor for false advertising.

    Regardless, my skin certainly feels A LOT better since I installed one of these - that much I know for certain.

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    Quote Posted by D-DAY (here)
    Each site seems to suggest that the product removes fluoride, but how can I be sure?
    The main problem with shower filters is that they don't have a chance to get the water in contact with the filter material for very long.

    In-line filters work either by obstruction or contact, depending on the filter material and on what is being filtered.

    For examples: Coffee filters obstruct coffee grounds, which are too coarse to pass through. Activated carbon attaches to many compounds that come in contact with it. Reverse osmosis also works by obstruction.

    Distillation is not an "in-line" filter . And reverse osmosis is usually so slow that it is used "out of line", with a storage tank.

    A shower filter may have a sediment filter, rather like a coffee filter, that keeps out coarse dirt by obstruction. But it gets rid of specific finer elements such as chlorine and floride by contact. Contact filters require time to contact; the longer the water is in contact, the better the filtering.

    Shower filters are usually spec'd (if at all) to remove "up to" some percentage of organics, chlorine or whatever their filter media will attach to by contact. But that is a "best case" rating, running water rather slowly for a shower, with a new filter, at whatever is the optimum temperature for that filter medium. Percentages removed can go down hill rather quickly at higher flow rates, using older filters, or at sub-optimal temperatures.

    Whole house chlorine filters have the advantage of holding many gallons of water in contact with the filter media for an extended period of time, in what looks like a second hot water heater. If that's not an option, then a good shower filter might, if I remember my numbers right, remove 50% to 90% of the chlorine on a good day - take slow showers and change the filter frequently.

    I'd imagine that the above fluoride shower filter will remove -some- fluoride, but until I saw some measurements on how much, it could be very little. It might have a material (zeolite apparently) that will remove fluoride from water on contact ... but until I know better, I'd have to allow for the possibility that it has too little zeolite to do any useful amount of removal.
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    Quote Posted by TigaHawk (here)
    Quote Posted by D-DAY (here)
    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    This pretty much covers most exposure to fluoride minus showering.
    There are a variety of shower head filtration devices on the market that will remove fluoride, heavy metals, and other contaminants from the water coming out of your shower head.

    Such devices are relatively cheap to buy, quite simple to install, and well worth acquiring if it's feasible.

    Our skin absorbs considerable amounts of trace chemicals from the water that we bathe in, so if the intake can be reduced or eliminated via an inexpensive and simple solution, then it's a solution worth exploring IMO.

    This is particularly so for those wanting to protect their pineal (and other glands/organs) from the harmul effects of fluoride buildup/calcification.

    I installed one of these shower head filtration devices myself a couple of years back, and I'm really glad I did.

    The first thing I noticed (after a couple of weeks) was that my skin became much more healthy - smoother, better hydrated, less blemishes, less irritations.

    Also, I was amazed when I first changed the filter and found it was filled with black "gunk" - a mixture of heavy metals, chemicals, algae etc.

    The filter itself was unbelievably heavy for its size (I'm not exaggerating) - it was like holding a small lump of lead... I was truly astonished!

    Anyway, the point is there are a lot of heavy metals (and other crap) coming through our domestic water supplies, that much I know for certain! (at least where I live anyway)

    On another note, I have also installed a good quality water purification system for the kitchen, use herbal toothpasre, and try to grow as many vegetables as I can from home (fortunately for me I have bore water on my property - no chemicals but a little muddy)... the plants don't seem to mind though

    I try to do whatever I can to keep my physical (3D) body healthy, but as far as reducing fluoride goes I feel I'm doing everything I possibly can at the moment.

    I know my body thanks me for the effort I'm making - cos I feel great!

    That said, if anybody has any other good tips U'd certainly be very interested to hear them.

    Fluoride truly is nasty stuff, so the more we can help eachother to find ways and means of eliminating it from our lives... the better.

    Hey, your'e wrong with the shower heads.

    The only thing that removes flouride is a Reverse Osmosis filter. Those shower heads will eliminate the other nasties, tho, but the flouride still gets into you via your skin.
    According to Charlotte Gerson, water distillation is the only way to remove fluoride.

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    Default Re: The Propaganda Supporting Fluoride and Why They Are Lies

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    The only thing that removes flouride is a Reverse Osmosis filter. Those shower heads will eliminate the other nasties, tho, but the flouride still gets into you via your skin.
    According to Charlotte Gerson, water distillation is the only way to remove fluoride.
    Apparently there is zeolite alumina in the one model of shower filter mentioned above that claims to remove fluoride. I'll wager it does remove -some- fluoride, just don't know how much.

    Reverse osmosis and distillation should both remove a substantial portion of the fluoride in water.

    P.S. -- Distillation may well remove almost all the fluoride, whereas reverse osmosis might remove just most of it ... if I recall correctly.
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    Default Re: The Propaganda Supporting Fluoride and Why They Are Lies

    This article seems to be mostly (*) right to me: http://www.dancingwithwater.com/arti...de-from-water/

    Reverse osmosis and distillation can all remove almost all of the fluoride, activated alumina can remove most of it if used right, and bone-char (BC) carbon does almost as well.

    (*) not entirely right - the claim that distillation "requires about 5 gallons of water to produce 1 gallon of distilled water" probably should be in the reverse osmosis section
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