When my mother was dying, I became very ill & slept all day for around 2 years!

[Mulder]

I've been doing research on "sympathetic illnesses" but I've found little. When I was a boy I felt strongly attached to my mother as she was very ill and needed a lot of help from me. When she was dying, I became extremely lethargic and depressed. I spent 2 years in bed for 90% of the time, sleeping away the days/nights and I was even was hospitalised until my insurance ran out.

Around 3 months after she died, this illness passed & I even "knew" in my mond that the illness was over now and I soon returned to my normal routines. I'm wondering if anyone knows if: 1. My illness was Karmic for my faults in my relationship with my mother, or 2. if I had to give her my energy for these 2 years so she could die in peace? There's more possibilities, but these are the ones on my mind.

I hope that someone has some knowledge/experience on this topic as It's playing on my mind most days as my father just died and I haven't had this reaction. Also Jupiter is retrograde and it's bringing up past energy with me.

[Anchor]

Posted by Mulder (here)
I hope that someone has some knowledge/experience on this topic as It's playing on my mind most days.

Standard disclaimers apply, but I feel I can speak to this freely - trusting your discernment is applied.

This has happened to me a few times. I have had to leave work sick, go home, fall catatonic, only to awaken the next day to news of a big disaster involving people dying.

You were working out of the body, it is as simple as that. To do this your waking state is in the way - you need to sleep.

My Dad was asleep when his mum died and he was eating himself up about it until I told him that he WAS THERE!

As soon as I said it, he knew it to be truth.

I hope the same is for you.

Sit with the idea for a while in meditation and see if this makes any sense to you.

I feel safe to say, you did well, of that I had no doubts.

Be well my friend.

[Lisab]

This is a little trivial in light of your story Mulder, but whenever my mother was pregnant with my siblings and myself, it was my father who threw up every morning! The same thing happened to another couple they were friends with.

[Mulder]

Thanks for your reply! There's a lot of information on "sympathetic pregnancies" but very little info on other illnesses. I believe it's possible to experience someone elses' pain to "share the burden" - I think it's what I experienced and I hope to do some more research on the topic soon.

[WhiteFeather]

A Death in the family, A loss of a relationship, stress and any other negative conditions lowers our frequencies and when this occurs we often can become ill......this includes taking on cancer and other serious diseases as well.

[Star Tsar]

When my mother was diagnosed with breast cancer I had the worst outbreak of eczema in my life.
I did have other stresses @ that time but my mother also suffers from eczema worst than myself.
Just my two cents

[kingmonkey]

Hello there,

I only just read your post for some reason, i must have skipped it for some reason.

I've had a few smaller examples of this in my own life, and im currently working around the idea that some of my current problems are ones i picked up from others along the way.

I always just assumed this thing was possible, it just felt like a natural occurrence to me. There are plenty of empathic people out there that can attest to this sort of thing.

I've been researching it and theres not too much about it around but i am certain it is more common.

But what you seem to be asking is why did it happen? Personally i would not read too much into the karmic type explanation. That's just me personally. Its easy to justify just about anything after the event as being a karmic event. That said whatever your belief........is yours.

In some research i was doing into healing, i came across the concept of a "copy". According to the particular author a copy occurs in a traumatic moment whereby our heart consciousness goes out of body into the heart area of another persons, and returns. Normally these sort of occurrences occur pre birth in the womb whereby we take on the emotions of the mother and assume that these are our own. They also occur in early childhood. These kind of copies mean that is possibe to take on other peoples problems and live them out in our own lives. Experientially if one puts one attention into the place where a particular symptom is felt then one will sometimes see an image of that person. Or alternatively when one feels into ones body and does a scan these copies will feel like blank spots in the body that makes it hard to tune into ones own body.

healing a copy is problematic in the sense that using a tool such as eft will not work because they are essentially someone elses energy. A way of releasing the copy is to go to the moment one took it on and feel underneath the copy for ones own feelings.

The copies as they are described share many similarities to the concept of soul stealing as described by some of the shamanistic literature. Though it is something that we can do unconsciously which can be problematic.

What i described above is just one way this sort of thing can happen. Experientially you know it happened and there is plenty of stuff surrounding empathy and empathetic pain out there on the internet.

Unfortunately i cannot answer the why question.

A fascinating subject, and one that is relevant to my own life at this moment.

[eileenrose]

You mean depression?

that is all I got. You got depressed emotions that are revealing themselves (timely).

[778 neighbour of some guy]

I cant be around my grandmother, she has had several strokes and as soon as i am around her i get splitting headaches and am completely wiped out for a few hours, especially at times were she is happy to see me and i am the sole focus of her attention, it kinda feels like a form of osmosis and or projected energy, actually quite normal, just like water seeks its equilibrium, her energy goes up just as far as mine goes down so i am left with a splitting headache and she has my surplus wich then feels like being dragged down for me.

Its energy levelling out, when you have a close bond to someone it can be harder to shield yourself from being drained energy wise.

Its just an energy management thingie as far as i know.

My grandfather, (grandma's husband) has recovered from cancer and multiple heartattacks, he's running on medication and so is a pretty toxic fellow by now, whenever he prepares food for the family and has touched it with his hand, like mixing up a salad or something, it gives me the runs in literally seconds. I am kind of sensitive to this i think, but as long as there is toilet paper in the house, who cares eh

[Anchor]

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)
Its just an energy management thingie as far as i know.

Yes, and practice makes perfect. Nice one granny for giving you the opportunity

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)
...and has touched it with his hand, like mixing up a salad or something, it gives me the runs in literally seconds. I am kind of sensitive to this i think, but as long as there is toilet paper in the house, who cares eh

Before you eat your food, try blessing it and purifying it. I do this after an expression of gratitude.

Your mileage will vary on the exact words, but the main intent normally wants to cover those three things: gratitude, blessing, purifying.

My little mantra for this is: Lord[1], thank you for this food, please bless it and purify it for its intended purpose.

John..
[1] is my label for the one infinite creator in situations like this.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Posted by Anchor (here)

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)
Its just an energy management thingie as far as i know.

Yes, and practice makes perfect. Nice one granny for giving you the opportunity

Posted by 665 plumber of the beast (here)
...and has touched it with his hand, like mixing up a salad or something, it gives me the runs in literally seconds. I am kind of sensitive to this i think, but as long as there is toilet paper in the house, who cares eh

Before you eat your food, try blessing it and purifying it. I do this after an expression of gratitude.

Your mileage will vary on the exact words, but the main intent normally wants to cover those three things: gratitude, blessing, purifying.

My little mantra for this is: Lord[1], thank you for this food, please bless it and purify it for its intended purpose.

John..
[1] is my label for the one infinite creator in situations like this.

Grinn, yes she is a very sweet old lady, she even shares her headaches, you know, she became 89 last thursday and she feels times is running out, same goes for grandpa, so turning down their undivided attention when they iare enjoying seeing their kids and grandkids so much is hard and i dont make a big deal from having a splitting headache for a short period of time, just comes with the territory as far as i am concerned, but you are completely right Anchor, it is a very good lesson indeed.

And the food blessing, i tried, did not work everytime, you have to keep in consederation the two old peeps are keeping eachother afloat, if one dies the other one will be gone in a week, they cannot live without eachother, everybody in the family sees this coming.

[Lifebringer]

I don't know, however when my Mom passed, she was in NJ in her van until she could find a apartment. As much as i begged her to stay in VA with us, she was determined to be there with my deceased brother who was buried four years prior. She said he had come to visit her in her sleep and told her he was there for her. She told me this over the phone, and when she passed three days later after going across the street to a coffee shop, she sat on the passenger side, auto locked the doors so no one could get her soc sec check and called me. She tapped me on the shoulder like she always did to gain you attention and was gone. She let me know brother Brian had come to get her and take her home. She had a slight smile on her face as she left. It took me less than 6 hours to get there, but I believe those gone before us, show us the way. Gotta tell you though, when she went there were thunderstorms and lightning booming and I guess it was my Dad who had waited since 1982, he was a truck driver and Airman and would be darned if she didn't get in. lol (at least that's what people who knew him said)

[Lifebringer]

You have to do like John Coffie, NOT like the drink, the guy in the Green Mile. Suck it in and blow it out. I've had this experience when using healing technique on my husband for deteriorting lower back disc. I swear after doing so, it takes about an hour before my hip is back to normal. Strange isn't it.

[Elliebabe]

I think your an empath. My sister took on my Mother and my Fathers illnesses.

[Arrowwind]

Please consider that some of the mental states being discussed here are really signs and symptoms of co-dependency or dependency.

A spiritually integral individual will never take on anothers disease.

[william r sanford72]

to all moms that are now gone..RI.P.

[Heartsong]

My Mom is coming up on 93. She's losing her ability to hear and see. Her physical strength is diminishing. She walks with a walker. I visit her about twice a week. She is has been a dominating force all of my 63 years. After visiting her I find I've taken on her age. I feel I should be giving my things away and finding a smaller home. I feel my plans for the upcoming years giving way to hopelessness.

In short, I become my Mother. Even knowing this I get trapped by it. I just keep on pushing against it and carrying on with my daily life and plans but it's an effort. It's likely she'll live a long time. Her heart is weak (A Fib) but the rest of her seems to be great. Her Mother lived until she was a 102.

I'm feeling like I'm trapped in a web I can't see and find myself wishing she'd pass in peace so I could feel like my life was my own.

Heartsong.

[Malerogro]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
Please consider that some of the mental states being discussed here are really signs and symptoms of co-dependency or dependency.

A spiritually integral individual will never take on anothers disease.

Yes, within psychology these kinds of relationships have become known as co-dependency or as a symbiotic relationship. Also, when parents become physically or emotionally dependent on one of the children, this is known as parentification. This can get in the way of the child's own development. I also have absorbed my parents problems and emotions for a long time and it estranged me from myself beacuse I could not seperate what problems were mine to deal with and which were not.

Still, I wonder wether on another dimension or in a new safer world symbiosis might be the natural thing to do? It can slo be a sign of great compassion and empathy. From a psychological point of view symbiosis is often seen as unhealthy but contemporary psychology I think is to much centred on ego-strengthening. On the other hand it might indeed be necessary to manage the energy exchange as proposed by plumber of the beast.

It sounds Mulder like with your mother you had no control over it and no choice? Do you have any regretsabout those two years of do you feel like you did a good thing?

I am curious to your experience Responding to arrowwind, I do feel like I have become a more integral spiritual individual since I have learned to seperate my energy from my parents influence. Yet sometimes I feel like it sets limits to full empathy, does it not?

[astrid]

Well several things come to mind here, all different phenomena.
Firstly is the issue of being physically empathic, some healer types
feel things through their own body's and can even take on another's
illness, if they don't have good clearing practices in place.

Secondly is the issue of ancestral patterns, illness can run in lineages,
they are energetic patterns, that are passed down, and thirdly, sometimes this can
also mean you have ancestors that have not crossed and are still hanging
around, which is common, too common, giving our western attitudes to
death and dying.

Also the deceased can not wish to let go of the living, for the fear
that something is not finished, or out of concern for the grieving they have
left behind. And this also goes for the living here too, as in they need to let go,
and let the person cross over. Generally speaking there is a window of 3 or 4
days where the person's spirit has support and enough energy to cross over
after that they can become stuck, which is obviously not good for then or us.

I see alot of the attachment type issues with clients and their deceased pets.
One woman was so closely bonded to her dog that he would not cross, she
could even hear him breathing at night. The really interesting thing about that
case was when i helped to cross him over, under her instructions, she got very very sick.
She even thought she might be dying. When i checked as to what as going on,
she had been so strongly corded to that little dog for a source of power that
her source connection was very weak . So i helped to restore that connection
and within minutes she was well, in fact amazingly well, said something like,
i feel 20 again. So fascinating stuff..

Anyways, might be some ideas in all of that for you.
Feel free to PM me if you want me to dig a little on what
was going on in your specific situation.

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I believe in sympathetic illnesses and precognitive dreams.
Around 3/11/11 I was able to document what I believed to be sympathetic illnesses and nightmares related to the 9.0 earthquake in Japan.