The differnet paths we walk

[redheaded stepchild]

I've always wondered about the paths we walk. I'm not talking about fluffy love and light new age junk. I think that once we get past all of that, our 'jobs' become more defined. Some will seek the path of peace and energy work, some will walk the path of a teacher, some will follow the path of the warrior. Are you an energy worker or a teacher or a warrior.. or maybe a combination?

What led you to your path? How did the tipping points in your life lead you to where you are now?..

The teacher part of me is hoping that by talking about the inner workings of becoming, we can help the newly awakened come to terms with reality.

Red

[<8>]

Thanks Redheaded..


I am on a pathless path, I got here through the experience we call life.
I experienced who I already were and what we all are, this cannot be believed, but has to be known through experience it yourself.



..8..

[redheaded stepchild]

thanks for replying 8.. I used to think as you do. Something is coming. We have to decide to make a stand. That's the warrior in me. I think that some of us will be passive/energetic, some will be more than that. But, we do have to 'make a line in the sand'. The days of sending out loving energy and hoping for a wonderful paradise ... is over. Just my opinion. We are all connected and responsible for what happens now.

But, I'm curious.. what was your tipping point? What was the spark that put you where your are at?

[<8>]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts my friend.


We as humans assum many things, we don't do it because we are bad people. We do it because of the conditioning we have gone through in our life.
You and I am now meeting worlds apart, and with a few words your mind have already made an assumption of me.

I could try to explain myself, but you would still make up a picture of me, based on your experience through your life.
Nevertheless, it's how we experience this reality.

But, I'm curious.. what was your tipping point? What was the spark that put you where your are at?

One experience was over and a shift happened there I became aware of my unconscious minds thoughts and emotions I had been conditioned with.
I felt fed up with it all, it didn't matter what new information I came across, I could see that everything were more or less the same story.

We have to decide to make a stand. That's the warrior in me

I appreciate your commitment, it's what you experience right now, and it's a very important experience.
Through this experience you will become aware of other things, you can't imagine right now.

I have also gone through the warrior experience, it's what we believe were strongly.
Thanks to the belief systems your mind have been conditioned through.

It's a normal reaction to wanna fight back, to do something, to make a stand. And it may be important for you to do that, to feel and taste that experience.
So I can only say, follow your heart.

I'm not talking about fluffy love and light new age junk

I have learned that we are all important, even those who make the fluffy stuff.
If you had a different experience, it might be you, who were doing the fluffy stuff yourself right now.

To become aware that we all have different experience, and are you able to respect the people for who they are.
This won't mean that you can't draw your sword and head out to the battle you feel is important.

Are you an energy worker or a teacher or a warrior.. or maybe a combination?

I am nothing you can put a label on, I am the silent awareness and so are you.
I have gone past all the little stories we believe in, I don't believe in anything, and especially my mind and the thoughts and emotions.

I am now observing the thoughts and emotions, because I have become aware that all the conditioned information I have gathered consciously and unconsciously.
The mind are puting up this information as thoughts and emotions all around the clock as valid information you have to act on.
And most human beings are acting on this information unconsciously, I don't act on this information, because I am aware what it is.

If you can realize that you are observing your minds thoughts and emotions, how then, can you be the very thing you observe?
It's quite simple actually, it's impossible to be, the very thing you observe, wouldn't you agree?

So if you are not your thoughts and emotions, than you cannot be the little redheaded girl can you?
Because the thoughts and emotions makes up your whole life story, doesn't it?
And the whole world are made up my stories, as beautiful as they are, they are just stories we choose to believe in.

This is a the great experience, and we are all apart of this great show.


It's very exciting times we are experiencing now.



..8..

[D-Day]

I could be wrong, but I suspect redheaded's definition of 'spiritual warrior' and <8>'s interpretation of what she meant varies considerably.
Perhaps it would be helpful to expand a little on what is meant by the term 'spiritual warrior'.
Personally, I see spiritual warriors as those whose path/duty it is to uphold and protect the logos, the knowledge, the truth.
The path of the spiritual warrior is not centred around being warlike, combative, aggressive, intolerant, or ignorant - far from it.
'Truth' is the weapon of choice for the spiritual warrior, and they wield it with precision, control, and the purest of intention.
A spiritual warriors sword (truth) cuts through false realities, conditioning, and programming, like a Jedi Knight's light sabre slicing through a block of cheese.
Come to think of it, the qualities of the character Yoda from the movie Star Wars provide a good reference point for what a spiritual warrior embodies with every fibre and aspect of his/her being.
Honesty, authenticity, integrity, honour, conviction, and strength of character are the predominant qualities of the spiritual warrior.
I know this, because I feel in my heart that i have the essence of the spiritual warrior within me.
I am on the path to becoming a spiritual warrior myself, I believe, but I still have much work to do before fulfilling the potential that I know is within me.
I realised my destiny shortly after I joined this forum, and I've used this place as my training ground ever since.
Whether through observation or direct participation i have found my time here at Avalon to be highly valuable in this regard.
I have had many teachers along the way, and I am grateful to all of them for the knowledge and wisdom they have bestowed upon me.
My journey continues - I still have much to learn.

[Fred Steeves]

Well here's my take Red. Like Don Juan says: "we don't choose the warrior's path, the warrior's path chooses us". Anyone who is a true 'warrior' in this day already knows 'the path', and they will either walk it with ever increasing impeccability, or destroy themselves. There is no third way.

Harsh, ain't it?

Cheers,
Fred

[Zebra]

Hi redheaded stepchild, and welcome to Avalon ..

I think a true warrior has all of those qualities and capabilities - that you mention as different pathways - inherent in them already.

D-DAY lists some more and as Fred Steeves says, from the words of Don Juan: the calling comes and the warrior knows what to do with it.

However, I don´t believe I am anything close to finished in my path. If I did believe that, I think that would be the end of what is possible in this human shell. So where I am is a dynamic thing, not fixed and I feel that in order to evolve further, I need to keep this open state in flow.

Aside from that, I guess the tipping point for me was first accepting that I had an ego that got in the way of my self and that I needed to become more self-aware. Like, who am I? That, in itself is still a journey.

That, and also accepting and embracing that everyone I come in contact with is a teacher. So, my way is now to stay conscious of this and put judgements aside. I really believe that all sentient beings, human, animal, insect, whatever - that comes into my experience is significant. I just have to stay awake for the gifts that they bring. And take them on board, for the time when I need them to be of service.

Thanks for asking, my education continues

Cheers, zebra

[REILLY]

I have a sword, and I keep it sharp, but this time around it's mostly from habit, as the work I find for myself these days is that which requires a wand.

[<8>]

Thanks D-Day...

'Truth' is the weapon of choice for the spiritual warrior

I like your interpretation my friend, and if I would look through your view, I would be the greatest warrior there is.
Because I know everything is just an illusion, everything you think, is not real. But at the same time everything is real and what you think matters.
I can see the ego mind working through most of the people on this planet, and that is why the world is like it is.

If I tell you that your mind is keeping you trapped, would you believe me?, most likely not, and why should anyone believe in that, I know you can only understand through experience it yourself.
But would you even consider to really listen to my words and challenge yourself through investigate your own mind and through the experience find out if I am right or wrong?

Most people don't, because they believe in their story so much, they can't even consider to look at the truth when it's right in their face.
As a warrior of truth it would be appropriate dare anyone who might question the truth, if you choose your mind as a weapon, you will lose.

I just love this experience and how people buy into the character they are playing in this play, and now I understand why some people wonder how we got were we are to day.
Because you cant know how you were before, until you become aware of the minds play in this experience.

The single most important thing is overlooked, why we think the way we think and why we feel the way we feel.
If everyone could see how crucial this thing is, and start investigate themselves, the story would end and a new one would start.

But in my view I am not a warrior of any sort, I am the witness of the play..



..8..

[redheaded stepchild]

Posted by D-DAY (here)
I could be wrong, but I suspect redheaded's definition of 'spiritual warrior' and <8>'s interpretation of what she meant varies considerably.
Perhaps it would be helpful to expand a little on what is meant by the term 'spiritual warrior'.
Personally, I see spiritual warriors as those whose path/duty it is to uphold and protect the logos, the knowledge, the truth.
The path of the spiritual warrior is not centred around being warlike, combative, aggressive, intolerant, or ignorant - far from it.
'Truth' is the weapon of choice for the spiritual warrior, and they wield it with precision, control, and the purest of intention.
A spiritual warriors sword (truth) cuts through false realities, conditioning, and programming, like a Jedi Knight's light sabre slicing through a block of cheese.
Come to think of it, the qualities of the character Yoda from the movie Star Wars provide a good reference point for what a spiritual warrior embodies with every fibre and aspect of his/her being.
Honesty, authenticity, integrity, honour, conviction, and strength of character are the predominant qualities of the spiritual warrior.
I know this, because I feel in my heart that i have the essence of the spiritual warrior within me.
I am on the path to becoming a spiritual warrior myself, I believe, but I still have much work to do before fulfilling the potential that I know is within me.
I realised my destiny shortly after I joined this forum, and I've used this place as my training ground ever since.
Whether through observation or direct participation i have found my time here at Avalon to be highly valuable in this regard.
I have had many teachers along the way, and I am grateful to all of them for the knowledge and wisdom they have bestowed upon me.
My journey continues - I still have much to learn.

Thank you, D-Day. You clarified it perfectly. A warrior is able to speak the truth without fear of reprisal.. by others words or actions. To me, a warrior will stand for truth and not back down even in the face of physical and emotion pain.

Fred, you are right.. we don't choose to be warriors, it's chosen for us. I was on a teachers path for many many years. At the same time I was being taught. I learned to put away the christian conditioning that I grew up with. I started to become irritated with the new age philosophies and became very vocal about it. I lost many friends because of my beliefs. That's when I became a warrior. I became solitary. I came to the conclusion that we cannot wish it all away with love and Light. I'm not saying that putting out love vibration is all for naught. But, my path is more... pro active. Even when I'm 80 yrs old, I will not back down from the fight. Warriors are teachers. But, if and when the time comes, warriors will be the soldiers of Gaia.

Red

[seigiarchon]

Posted by redheaded stepchild (here)

Posted by D-DAY (here)
I could be wrong, but I suspect redheaded's definition of 'spiritual warrior' and <8>'s interpretation of what she meant varies considerably.
Perhaps it would be helpful to expand a little on what is meant by the term 'spiritual warrior'.
Personally, I see spiritual warriors as those whose path/duty it is to uphold and protect the logos, the knowledge, the truth.
The path of the spiritual warrior is not centred around being warlike, combative, aggressive, intolerant, or ignorant - far from it.
'Truth' is the weapon of choice for the spiritual warrior, and they wield it with precision, control, and the purest of intention.
A spiritual warriors sword (truth) cuts through false realities, conditioning, and programming, like a Jedi Knight's light sabre slicing through a block of cheese.
Come to think of it, the qualities of the character Yoda from the movie Star Wars provide a good reference point for what a spiritual warrior embodies with every fibre and aspect of his/her being.
Honesty, authenticity, integrity, honour, conviction, and strength of character are the predominant qualities of the spiritual warrior.
I know this, because I feel in my heart that i have the essence of the spiritual warrior within me.
I am on the path to becoming a spiritual warrior myself, I believe, but I still have much work to do before fulfilling the potential that I know is within me.
I realised my destiny shortly after I joined this forum, and I've used this place as my training ground ever since.
Whether through observation or direct participation i have found my time here at Avalon to be highly valuable in this regard.
I have had many teachers along the way, and I am grateful to all of them for the knowledge and wisdom they have bestowed upon me.
My journey continues - I still have much to learn.

Thank you, D-Day. You clarified it perfectly. A warrior is able to speak the truth without fear of reprisal.. by others words or actions. To me, a warrior will stand for truth and not back down even in the face of physical and emotion pain.

Fred, you are right.. we don't choose to be warriors, it's chosen for us. I was on a teachers path for many many years. At the same time I was being taught. I learned to put away the christian conditioning that I grew up with. I started to become irritated with the new age philosophies and became very vocal about it. I lost many friends because of my beliefs. That's when I became a warrior. I became solitary. I came to the conclusion that we cannot wish it all away with love and Light. I'm not saying that putting out love vibration is all for naught. But, my path is more... pro active. Even when I'm 80 yrs old, I will not back down from the fight. Warriors are teachers. But, if and when the time comes, warriors will be the soldiers of Gaia.

Red

I am a Soldier of the Lord Creator Shemhamephorash and not a soldier of gaia, who is considered to be a minor divinity compared to the Lord Creator Himself.

[eileenrose]

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[redheaded stepchild]

I am a Soldier of the Lord Creator Shemhamephorash and not a soldier of gaia, who is considered to be a minor divinity compared to the Lord Creator Himself.

I've never heard of him. Gaia was an Aeon, one of the many creator Gods of this universe. She and the other Gods are not the Source. The source is the Originator. It is the one who allows 'novelty' and inspiration to be created as templates for life in the universe.
I'm curious though, to know who Shemhamephorash is...Hey, just a thought.. do you play World of Warcraft?

[Dennis Leahy]

Hiya, Red, and welcome.

Try as I have over the years (probably pretty half-assed, but at the time it felt like I was really trying), I have not reached any state of consciousness where I would answer your question the way <8> did. I'm much more 3D and "practical" with questions like yours, and though I suspect <8> is sincere and has found a place (or lost some container walls) to have that viewpoint, I never know what to do when I ask a 3D question and get back 5D (or whatever) answers. I "understand" that individuals are illusory divisions of oneness, yet I am most certainly fully fooled into thinking I am an entity. Cut me and I bleed. Cut my brothers and sisters and I either a.) defensively pick up a sword - which could be a pen, or b.) weep for those I seem unable to assist.

Specifically, you asked: "Are you an energy worker or a teacher or a warrior.. or maybe a combination?"

At this moment in time, given only those 3 choices, I'd have to say primarily a failed teacher, because it feels as if I have been largely unsuccessful in teaching (or impatient, having planted seeds but not seeing sprouts yet.) Perhaps the observation of me choosing a path, rather than allowing a path to choose me is what I am feeling right now. There's probably a bit of each of those paths in each of us. Depending on your full descriptions of those paths, I think I see some of each in me.

The warrior in me is aware of Lao Tzu's advice:

Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu - chapter 76

A man is born gentle and weak.
At his death he is hard and stiff.
Green plants are tender and filled with sap.
At their death they are withered and dry.

Therefore the stiff and unbending is the disciple of death.
The gentle and yielding is the disciple of life.

Thus an army without flexibility never wins a battle.
A tree that is unbending is easily broken.

The hard and strong will fall.
The soft and weak will overcome.

...and so I am not a warrior fighting in the traditional sense, but rather using a more supple and subtle approach to the battle we are all in (at least, those of us in 3D, even if we know we are acting as pilots for avatars/"meat suits.") Some people see vast numbers of humans suffering, see corruption and greed and deliberate malevolence, see greed-based anthropocentric action causing large amounts of "unnatural" species extinctions... and say, "everything is the way it is supposed to be", and do not feel warrior blood rising. I do. These malevolent beings have set goals for themselves, and are nearing endgame (we are the pawns.)

I agree that "something is coming" and agree that those of us in 3D will have to make a stand. I wouldn't just sit if a woman was being raped, why would I sit and watch Gaia be raped? Why would I sit and watch humanity be raped?

Your opening made me think of this: A snippet of a poem I wrote about 40 years ago:
Be prepared, the people need you
In a ripened, cosmic state
With a body primed for power
And a mind that's free from hate

I still believe that a critical puzzle piece is that we act not in "righteous indignation" but from a loving wisdom, like a mature, kind, compassionate parent. So, I don't entirely dismiss the "love and light" (but I also don't believe that those strictly using love and light can make the benevolent paradigm shift all by themselves. And, we need a paradigm shift.

Dennis

[markpierre]

Posted by redheaded stepchild (here)
thanks for replying 8.. I used to think as you do. Something is coming. We have to decide to make a stand. That's the warrior in me. I think that some of us will be passive/energetic, some will be more than that. But, we do have to 'make a line in the sand'. The days of sending out loving energy and hoping for a wonderful paradise ... is over. Just my opinion. We are all connected and responsible for what happens now.

But, I'm curious.. what was your tipping point? What was the spark that put you where your are at?

No, you didn't used to think as he does.
His self identity fuse tripped and he enlarged a bit more than you know.

That 'line' is a very personal one, and everyone is compelled in a very personal way.
But it's more like a circle and you draw it around yourself.
You don't take sides, and you forget about believing everything outside of you is important.
And you don't bring anything with you (as if).
You're not leavening it until you're well and truly yourSelf. You have no choice.
Then we can have fun and get something done.

You can enjoy making that choice, or you can frantically discover that it's made for you
and have a miserable time trying to stay 'you'.

That light and love thing was a distraction in the first place, and perverted anyway.
It delayed too many 'lightworkers' from doing their own work.
I hope they get on it. I've seen a few who have rather dramatically.
I'd bet there are a fair few more light and love people going home and kicking the dog lately. I hope so.

[Tane Mahuta]

Some of us don't get to choose the paths we walk...

but rather the experiences we need to have...

TM

[Carolin]

[QUOTE/] Fred, you are right.. we don't choose to be warriors, it's chosen for us. I was on a teachers path for many many years. At the same time I was being taught. I learned to put away the christian conditioning that I grew up with. I started to become irritated with the new age philosophies and became very vocal about it. I lost many friends because of my beliefs. That's when I became a warrior. I became solitary. I came to the conclusion that we cannot wish it all away with love and Light. I'm not saying that putting out love vibration is all for naught. But, my path is more... pro active. Even when I'm 80 yrs old, I will not back down from the fight. Warriors are teachers. But, if and when the time comes, warriors will be the soldiers of Gaia.

Red[/QUOTE]

Hi Red,

I too have pulled away from the new age community, christian upbringing and have become solitary in my spiritual life. Maybe that's the way it should be since it is so personal. I no longer feel the need to fight or be right about my beliefs.....in fact I'm not even sure what they are anymore.

I won't label myself with one archetype since I'm those that you mentioned and many more. They are not my identity just my behaviour from time to time.

It's all becoming very fuzzy, my beliefs, my identity. I can't draw a line or a circle because I honestly don't know which side I'll wake up on tomorrow. I'm just going to allow myself and those around me to be.

Love
C

[Dennis Leahy]

BTW, thanks, redheaded stepchild. Searching for an answer to your question made me re-apply the Tao te Ching's wisdom, which helped me to see that (like wind and water wearing away stone), I need to become extremely patient in any "teaching" that I do, and not expect to necessarily see anything 'happen.'

:~)

Dennis

[Camilo]

At this point in the evolution of the planet and humanity, I feel everyone find themselves in the path they've been pursuing for many life times, as this lifetime seems to be the one that will take you to the vibrational patern where you belong. The time to share the space/time reality with those of different vibrational spectrum is about to end.

[redheaded stepchild]

I seem to be redefining and intensifying my beliefs. I can tell that the frequencies are changing by the way my body has been feeling. Like we're not completely in the 3d like we used to be. The problem is, we are still in this 3d form. I'm a realist. I cannot picture myself in the midst of a war, letting go of my 3d mentality. The reality is that we all are still capable of starving, bleeding and dying. It's a never ending cycle of control and recycle to be controlled again by parasites. When I asked what your path was, I was hoping that we could stimulate each other with answers that lead to more questions.. and so far, it's been working for me and I hope it's given others food for thought.

Sometimes, I become so focused on sacred anger.. from watching and reading about psychopaths and predators preying on our beloved brothers and sisters, the animals and the beautiful earth. So much suffering and pain. I know what my paradise will be, how beautiful it will be in my forest, but, I know that there will be a time of suffering that is coming. I dream of these events. Dreams that I know are not dreams. Maybe that's why I feel such an urgency.