Stew Webb reveals Fulford as MI5 disinfo agent.

[spiritguide]

Just got a link to a video from Camelot site where this is spoken of. Here is the interview..

http://www.project.nsearch.com/profi...herokee-castle

Lots of info long video.

[eileenrose]

Some already posted information on Fulford that the White Dragon or Black Dragon society is a Japanese gang. Which doesn't sound awful. But it is. As that isn't the way that Ben presented them. For me that was the final straw. Just felt like he was lying (to me) and that lie was too large a one for me to look pass. It has never added up, with him. I am just saying....too many un-explained issues with the information he puts out has made me leery of him.

There are plenty of other sources to rely on that don't expose us to as much mis-information. And I realize that he has put out that he a key decision maker, so people are adverse to upsetting him. Well I think we need to do some pushing back of our own and find out the real truth behind him. If he is really anything close to what he says he is, he will stand tall. But I doubt that will happen.

,,,my few thoughts on him....not really interested in getting any more involved in this topic.

[spiritguide]

Posted by eileenrose (here)
Some already posted information on Fulford that the White Dragon or Black Dragon society is a Japanese gang. Which doesn't sound awful. But it is. As that isn't the way that Ben presented them. For me that was the final straw. Just felt like he was lying (to me) and that lie was too large a one for me to look pass. It has never added up, with him. I am just saying....too many un-explained issues with the information he puts out has made me leery of him.

There are plenty of other sources to rely on that don't expose us to as much mis-information. And I realize that he has put out that he a key decision maker, so people are adverse to upsetting him. Well I think we need to do some pushing back of our own and find out the real truth behind him. If he is really anything close to what he says he is, he will stand tall. But I doubt that will happen.

,,,my few thoughts on him....not really interested in getting any more involved in this topic.

The thread's intent is to give one a balanced perception and research material to sharpen their analysis. Objectivity (neutrality) is a valuable tool. If the message is garbled (no provable facts), then the messenger's foundation is questinable. IMHO

[Ultima Thule]

So Steve Webb bases his opinion on Heneghans blog where Fulford is categorically stated to be MI5 asset, with no proof? I know that BF bends the limits in regards to his credibility at times, but this statement of Webbs seems to be based in basically nothing? Nothing definitive in my opinion, either way.

UT

[9eagle9]

I know you don't want to be more involved in this topic but Would you care to expand on your comment below that I bolded. I don't follow BF after the initial review of him and his material (and the company he keeps), told me essentially what you have stated. I know his adherents think the sun shines out of his armpits, but seriously key decision maker about WHAT?

For us? And who gave him that entitlement? That seems like an odd counter opposing core value to those seeking sovereignty.

I know he's not calling the shots in this domicile.

I probably don't need to ask but I am..lol.

Posted by eileenrose (here)
Some already posted information on Fulford that the White Dragon or Black Dragon society is a Japanese gang. Which doesn't sound awful. But it is. As that isn't the way that Ben presented them. For me that was the final straw. Just felt like he was lying (to me) and that lie was too large a one for me to look pass. It has never added up, with him. I am just saying....too many un-explained issues with the information he puts out has made me leery of him.

There are plenty of other sources to rely on that don't expose us to as much mis-information. And I realize that he has put out that he a key decision maker, so people are adverse to upsetting him. Well I think we need to do some pushing back of our own and find out the real truth behind him. If he is really anything close to what he says he is, he will stand tall. But I doubt that will happen.

,,,my few thoughts on him....not really interested in getting any more involved in this topic.

[PHARAOH]

If so, why didn't Stew Webb show any pictures of his car and the damage done as a result of his escape from death. More and more I'm finding the most absurd posts with little to no discernment or evidence. I guess some people just believe everything.

[WhiteFeather]

Posted by PHARAOH (here)
If so, why didn't Stew Webb show any pictures of his car and the damage done as a result of his escape from death. More and more I'm finding the most absurd posts with little to no discernment or evidence. I guess some people just believe everything.

I Agree PHARAOH. As of late I find it much bearable to view exercise re-runs of Richard Simmons than posts as of late on this forum.


This ones highly unbearable. Yup Total Madness. Use Caution when viewing this video. Dont say I didnt warn you.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iaTEgoezNQ

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
I Agree PHARAOH. As of late I find it much bearable to view exercise re-runs of Richard Simmons than posts as of late on this forum.
This ones highly unbearable. Yup Total Madness. Use Caution when viewing this video. Dont say I didnt warn you.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iaTEgoezNQ

Sweet mother of god WhiteFeather! You must surely know that invoking Mr. Shorty Short Pants himself Richard Simmons, could quite possibly be considered a capital offense here at Avalon.

[9eagle9]

Is THAT who that is, I thought it was Wilcocks after another hair do.

Man am I embarrassed.

[WhiteFeather]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
I Agree PHARAOH. As of late I find it much bearable to view exercise re-runs of Richard Simmons than posts as of late on this forum.
This ones highly unbearable. Yup Total Madness. Use Caution when viewing this video. Dont say I didnt warn you.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iaTEgoezNQ

Sweet mother of god WhiteFeather! You must surely know that invoking Mr. Shorty Short Pants himself Richard Simmons, could quite possibly be considered a capital offense here at Avalon.

LMFAO Fred: Sweet Mother of God. Fred Thats an understatement on this video. But your close. : ) What a great technique that Richard showed us in fastening the seat belt. Bravo. Much learned. Thanks Rich.

[9eagle9]

On further reflection though....Richard Simmons makes a pretty good guru, he demonstrates his talk, provides evidence, and walks it, (runs, jogs, jumps, whatever) instead of just talking about it. In an annoying spastic way but preferable to providing nothing demonstrable in an annoying spastic way.

I retract any previous statements comparing Wilcocks and Richard Simmons, as unfair to Simmons.

[WhiteFeather]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
On further reflection though....Richard Simmons makes a pretty good guru, he demonstrates his talk, provides evidence, and walks it, (runs, jogs, jumps, whatever) instead of just talking about it. In an annoying spastic way but preferable to providing nothing demonstrable in an annoying spastic way.

I retract any previous statements comparing Wilcocks and Richard Simmons, as unfair to Simmons.

Richard Simmons could be an asset to Avalon this im sure of. What a laugh to say the least. Lets see if we can get him to join possibly. We could all enjoy all of his newest videos, just think. : )

[GoodeTXSG]

I have heard Stew Webb is an Intel asset, with no proof as well. The best the PTW can do right now is muddy up the waters so much that we trust even less of what we read and hear than we did before. Every one of these sources is a certain percentage dis info. No one is getting the crystal clear truth from any source. Discernment is our only friend in this reality right now. I give people props for trying to pry the truth out of their sources though.

[gripreaper]

Appears the dis-info campaigns to slander Alternative Media are in full swing. Fulford said this, Drake said that, Stew Webb challenges that, Brockbrader get's arrested, No, the real Bilderberhger meeting, you know, the ones where they eat babies, is at Kimble castle. The one in Virginia was just a decoy full of lackies. The real guys in the top tier will be in Colorado.

That may be the only true info in this whole charade, and you know what? The meeting at Kimble will get no play, no news, no Alex Jones and his megaphone, no we are change, no Jim Tucker, nothing.

none of us cockroaches (the illuminati's word, not mine) will be around because the energy has already been deflected, the dis-info in place, and the distractions full swing.

[aranuk]

Posted by Ultima Thule (here)
So Steve Webb bases his opinion on Heneghans blog where Fulford is categorically stated to be MI5 asset, with no proof? I know that BF bends the limits in regards to his credibility at times, but this statement of Webbs seems to be based in basically nothing? Nothing definitive in my opinion, either way.

UT

Hi UT I agree with you here. There is so much disinformation going around by all the various celebrities it would take the wisdom of Solomon to know what the real truth is. They all seem to be telling the truth 90% of time, so it is difficult to figure out.
I for sure do not know and anyone who claims they do, I would question them as well.

Stan

[aranuk]

Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
I have heard Stew Webb is an Intel asset, with no proof as well. The best the PTW can do right now is muddy up the waters so much that we trust even less of what we read and hear than we did before. Every one of these sources is a certain percentage dis info. No one is getting the crystal clear truth from any source. Discernment is our only friend in this reality right now. I give people props for trying to pry the truth out of their sources though.

Hi Corey, can you tell me what props you gave us please. I think I must have missed that post or posts.

Stan

[mountain_jim]

One thing about Webb and Henegan - they have been accusing folks of being disinfo agents and being accused of same, for much longer than we have heard of Fulford - at least 10 years or more if I recall, I have seen their stuff in print.

So they have that going for them?

I still think Wayne Madsen (ex NSA) is more credible than either of them, and his stuff (Obama/CIA, Obama/Gay, Obama/gay-partners murdered, Bush and Condi affair when he was prez, etc) is pretty out-there too.

and Fulford? Duff of Veterans Today vouches for him somewhat, which agency might he represent?

Good thing my soul/spiritual development does not depend on any of these info or disinfo agents and noise-makers......

[Lazlo]

The most valuable information available is to be found in the silent spaces between the words on the MSM and in official government statements. The rest is noise.

[justoneman]

justonepointofview

Fulford is complex. I must give my 2 cents.

Opinion - If Ben is being used to provide info/disinfo, he is not “in” on it.

Ben likely has had significant messianic experiences that stem all the way back to his childhood. His time in Brazil had significant impact. I am certain he was able to partake amongst the various visionary plants available in that part of the world.

Ben comes from a bloodline/insider family line, was given a good education and for his leanings towards the salvation of humanity, earth and the environment, grew as an individual with these ideals as foundational underpinnings as to his core being.

His experience as the Asian correspondent for Forbes Magazine (the “People Magazine” of economic magazines as opposed to something like “The Economist”) allowed him to meet all sorts of folks from all sorts of walks of life most specifically within Asia and especially Japan and South Korea but that he had the confidence and enough knowledge of the various vocabularies to be able to speak with just about any mover and shaker on the planet. It was no small feat that he was able to perform the interview with David Rockefeller back in what, 2007?

Now as this extremely interesting man broke through some of his programming, he chose a side… humanity. I believe this is 100% genuine. Once he drew that line, as the reality works, he found himself attracted to and attracted by those who perhaps shared similar ideologies. This is likely when he became officially aligned with what is now known (via his reporting) as the White Dragon Society which if I recall correctly stemmed from the Black Dragon Society. That elements of both may be known to be involved with elements of organized crime is no surprise but to the educated, should make no difference with regards to whether Ben Fulford is a good guy or a bad guy, on his own, free willed, calling his own shots, or some mind controlled, info/disinfo agent for the following points.

In the upper worlds, what gets a man entry is their integrity. Yes… that is correct, like it or not. What do I mean by integrity? They are exactly who/what they say they are. It doesn’t matter if one is deceiving themselves as to who/what they are but what does matter is that one is able to be trusted to be who/what they project themselves to be. That is an essential component as to how that world works. Note, I said “the upper world” and so what is that? It’s the world of the movers and shakers. In the upper world, the laws that are applied are not found on paper. Laws on paper are simply roadblocks for the less successful upper world warriors which allows the various levels of this upper world to be able to cull out the less ingenuous and the less impeccable individuals as this is a pyramid and as each level is achieved, there is less and less room for candidates to proceed further up the ladder.

Having said all the above, I will now address what is a “mafia.” The media (owned by higher levels of the massive upper level all encompassing “mafia”) provides the public with a view as to what mafia is that satisfies the general public’s desire for “bad guys” and leads most folks to think those are the only mafias.

The actual truth is that most major organizations, regardless of their legal or lawful status are essentially mafias.

Here is a small list of examples of mafias

The 5 Families Mafia out of New York City

From a US POV - the “mobsters” from other known “dondoms” mostly in the eastern US that have branched out across the US and committed news making crimes are mafias. As mafias moved west, the lines between the local business men, politicians, police and actual bad guys became blurred almost to where they can’t be found. Vegas is a great example – completely wired up.

The various ethnic mafias we find in most major cities across the world where ethnic communities have sprung forth due to immigration opportunities or shear invasion such as Mexicans into the US. Some of these have names that later become household names due to media exploitation such as The Triads, the Yakuza or they just get known by their ethnic name such as the Russian Mafia, the Sicilian Mafia, Colombian Cartels, etc.

The above groups are the “mafias” that the media feeds to the sheeple and thus almost the entire public sees the above as “the mafias” and does not consider the rest of the mafias.

Here are examples of the rest of the mafias –

Many well known secret societies in their upper ranks, I will not bore anyone with all the names of these societies as they can be easily researched all via the internet.

All intelligence agencies

The military mafias – the inner circles of the various militaries that work closely with the other mafias

The upper ranks of most (if not all) international corporations

One of the corporations that deserves to be mentioned specifically are what we lovingly know as “the banksters”

The movers and shakers within the political structures across the globe

Mega corporate media organizations. A great example is Fox news… I love Bill O’Reilly for example but I will never forget when he threatened to sick “the Fox News security department” on a viewer that sent in a comment Bill took issue with.

Scientology (in its current form)

All major organized religions at their upper levels form mafia style components

And the list can go on and on

What’s my point as this applies to Ben Fulford? He was and still is “hooked in” He has contacts in the various groups I have listed above who are mafiosos. He has publically stated he speaks for the White Dragon Society and some folks have linked them to “mafias” and/or have decided they have enough evidence to call them a mafia.

Guess what all these mafias have in common without exception? They are made of human beings and these human beings all have families. And guess what happens with human beings when they feel they are being threatened? They consider responding to the threat in defense.

So now consider the possibility (well… for many of us, the reality) that a small group of humanity has decided (and for who knows how long) that they are going to kill off a large chunk of the rest of humanity. And some folks have realized they are not so sure they are in this special group of intended survivors and/or are pretty damn sure some of their family and loved ones may not be in the survivor group. These folks I will call the “maybes” might start to feel a wee bit squeamish. And when we consider all of the various folks that would likely fall into the maybe camp may also be directly or closely linked with folks in one or more of the plethora of mafias, isn’t it possible that some of the maybes might decide to take action against the possibility they and/or their loved ones don’t get a ticket to survival?

This is clearly the case (as far as Ben Fulford believes) with the folks Ben is involved with. So now I would like the reader to consider “the White Dragon Society” in a different light. At least it is an organization of sorts that is proclaiming to have chosen the side of humanity. To take issue that they could be a “mafia” or too closely connected with “mafias” is naïve. Would you now look upon the WDS as bad guys because they are mafiosos even though they may take the strength of their organization towards a goal of assisting in the salvation of most of humanity some other mafias want to cull off?


Now...

As far as the MI5 connection, besides the fact that MI5 is like the US FBI which is supposed to be concerned with issues inside the borders and MI6 is like the CIA, thus having an international reach why would anyone care so much Fulford has those types of connections? In fact, to me… if he didn’t, I would be less impressed with his blog information.

The bottom line here … and again I must stress that this is justoneview from justoneman, I think one has to assess the individual. Do not take that to mean I am suggesting if you trust Ben Fulford, you should trust his information. That’s a whole nother post onto itself.

I hope this has cleared up the matter of mafias and intelligence agency connections for a few readers.

justone

[sigma6]

Fulford an MI5 disinfo agent? that's mickey mouse, that doesn't even fit! Look who would have thought the Keenan court case would happen, or what is going on with all these bankers CEOs jumping ship, and who gave us a heads up on these very real happenings? I like some of the stuff Stew says, but just because someone in interpol tells him Fulford is an MI5 disinfo agent is mickey mouse... that doesn't even fit!! It's sad we now have so many whistleblowers/truthers, they sometimes get scared and feel the need to slash out at their 'competitors' - this phenomena happens in any area of 'expertise' where many individuals come forward with 'insider' knowledge... they start 'competing' with each other... The level of detail that Wilcock has brought to Fulford's cause has been a real blessing and he should be commended for the amount of journalism that he has brought to the table on such a vast and complex subject, if he wasn't such a genius, he would not have even been able to pull it off at all... and when he did the interview with Winston Shrout, well that completely blew me away, full circle, I have been looking at Winston's stuff for a few years now and it is not an easy subject, David has to be a genius to pick up on all these topics as deftly as he does. I am listening to the LateNight video while typing this and I have to turn it off, too much filler...