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    Default Re: Stew Webb reveals Fulford as MI5 disinfo agent.

    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    Quote Posted by spiritguide (here)
    Just got a link to a video from Camelot site where this is spoken of. Here is the interview..

    http://www.project.nsearch.com/profi...herokee-castle

    Lots of info long video.

    Unreal... and maybe I am late to the party but just found this link

    http://educate-yourself.org/ps/steww...d01jan09.shtml


    Stew Webb Exposed
    Dangerous COINTELPRO for the FBI & Patriot Movement Infiltrator

    its almost like everybody is a secret bad guy...

    unreal

    justoneamazed
    This was part of what I was getting at with this from page 1:

    Quote One thing about Webb and Henegan - they have been accusing folks of being disinfo agents and being accused of same, for much longer than we have heard of Fulford - at least 10 years or more if I recall, I have seen their stuff in print.
    I did not want to go back and re-investigate any of this, you never end up with proof or answers, but if anyone tends to believe Webb it makes sense to research his past claims and opponents counter-claims.
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    Default Re: Stew Webb reveals Fulford as MI5 disinfo agent.

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    A teensy problem - MI5 is the UK Internal security service, NOT a spy agency.

    Why would he be posted in Japan ? If he was a disinfo agent he would more likely be a member of MI6, which is the UK's equivalent of the CIA. Those who claim to work in the "intelligence" field should know the difference.

    There's sooooo much disinfo around anyway, I'm just sitting and observing the play and waiting (though not holding my breath) for BF's predictions to come true.

    Ho Hum.
    Exactly... as mentioned in Post #19

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post502647

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    Default Re: Stew Webb reveals Fulford as MI5 disinfo agent.

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    Quote Posted by jackovesk (here)
    Even Ben's own Illuminati Buddy thinks Ben is (Full of It)...

    BENJAMIN FULFORD VS ILLUMINATI NEW


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9_rqo4Ic9I

    Short Transcript at start of Video @ 20 to 40 secs

    Quote Ben Fulford Quote: "I do recommend you listen to this guy, he's not just some 'Flaky Guy' off the internet Ok...!"

    Alexanda Romanoff Quote: "Un-Like yourself..!" (Laughs out Loud)
    PS - In all Seriousness, how can you take Ben Fulford Seriously to Start with anyways..???
    In this video, Ben and Alexander discuss an attack that is supposed to occur in London in two days - on June 11, 2012 and in this attack some 13,000 people are supposed to die.
    G'Day justoneman,

    So when this latest Ben Fulford Prediction does'nt eventuate, what next..?

    Come to think of it, since your a Ben Fulford BELIEVER...

    Could you please just list (1) BF Prediction/Scenario that has come True...???

    Did'nt think so..!

    So the question you should be asking yourself is: "What truely is it that makes one get sucked in to such Fantasies every single time"..???
    • Is it just Hope & Wishful thinking..?
    • Is it the of it all..?
    • Is it Ben's Story Telling Abilities..?

    Its a Serious Question, that deserves a Serious Answer...
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    Default Re: Stew Webb reveals Fulford as MI5 disinfo agent.

    Besides Ben is an expat Canadian, (so I am biased in his favour) and his grandfather was royally screwed over by the elites, I don't think he ever forgot this... Ben has an open history for anyone who ever wants to take the time and look into it... an open book if you will... the Asian Secret Society thinks enough of him to protect him and make him their spokesman, nobody puts themselves out on a limb like Ben does, and he DARES them to challenge him in court, what DISINFO agent does that? and he wouldn't he be exposing the things he does, stuff most people are too afraid to even touch.

    And another thing that drives me nuts, if he says that the radiation is limited in Japan, I believe him, the only radiation was from the Isreali planted bomb in the decommissioned reactor. There may be radiation coming on the shores of West Coast but who and what is the REAL source of it??? They say there is radiation showing up in Chicago now... how could that have come from Fukishima? Come on people be a little empirical here and quit jumping to conclusions, and if they planted a nuclear device in the ocean that set off the tsunami, where did all that radiation go? Could that be perhaps the cause of radiated tuna?

    The radiation is NOT Japan's fault, they are trying to break the choke chain of the US/Cabal elites who have bribed, raped, tortured, and killed, installed a military base, and criminal network in their country. Japan was going to come out with Free energy, water cars, and Thorium Nuclear Reactors, notice how all of a sudden, all the G8 countries are trying to pretend they don't like Nuclear energy anymore, doesn't something stink to high hell? Because I bet Japan has a working Thorium Reactor ready to roll out, that is 10 to 20 years ahead of anything on the planet, which of course is a threat to the CRIME SYNDICATE US Government. I read somewhere the elites (who have their spys everywhere in Japan were quite threatened by Japan's TEPCO, and wanted to 'tear it apart' Well, they did. Don't forget who the real a**holes are here.
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    Default Re: Stew Webb reveals Fulford as MI5 disinfo agent.

    Quote Posted by jackovesk (here)
    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    Quote Posted by jackovesk (here)
    Even Ben's own Illuminati Buddy thinks Ben is (Full of It)...

    BENJAMIN FULFORD VS ILLUMINATI NEW


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9_rqo4Ic9I

    Short Transcript at start of Video @ 20 to 40 secs

    Quote Ben Fulford Quote: "I do recommend you listen to this guy, he's not just some 'Flaky Guy' off the internet Ok...!"

    Alexanda Romanoff Quote: "Un-Like yourself..!" (Laughs out Loud)
    PS - In all Seriousness, how can you take Ben Fulford Seriously to Start with anyways..???
    In this video, Ben and Alexander discuss an attack that is supposed to occur in London in two days - on June 11, 2012 and in this attack some 13,000 people are supposed to die.
    G'Day justoneman,

    So when this latest Ben Fulford Prediction does'nt eventuate, what next..?

    Come to think of it, since your a Ben Fulford BELIEVER...

    Could you please just list (1) BF Prediction/Scenario that has come True...???

    Did'nt think so..!

    So the question you should be asking yourself is: "What truely is it that makes one get sucked in to such Fantasies every single time"..???
    • Is it just Hope & Wishful thinking..?
    • Is it the of it all..?
    • Is it Ben's Story Telling Abilities..?

    Its a Serious Question, that deserves a Serious Answer...
    Hi jackovesk - the purpose in me posting this was so that when it does not happen, we can agree that the information from Romanov and Fulford turned out to be untrue. I only said I like Ben Fulford because I believe the he is genuine. I believe he believes in everything he puts out. He believes the leads he gets, he believes his information sources which he does what he can do to verify that it is true enough for him. Romanov is similar in that he believes the stuff he is saying. Same with Leo Zagami, he believes it.

    I like people like that. I like people who believe in the world they perceive. They also may be dealing with messianic complex issues. They also may be smoking far too much weed (like I have done at times in the past which led me to states of psychosis).

    Zagami is probably an off and on weed head and when he smokes a lot of weed, he goes whacky - like he is doing here in this Youtube video where he is clearly in a mental facility -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z7O7UZxipM

    If you note in the Romanov/Fulford video there is a discussion of 70 Kilograms of marijuana...

    These guys like to involve themselves with visionary plants. Fulford spent a year or so in Brazil. What do you think he did in Brazil when he was living with some tribes?

    These guys are folks who have expanded their minds (and perhaps opened themselves to entities) and they acquire additional psychic talents or they enhance their innate psychic talents, they also may have been abducted and/or like Truman Cash have past lives filled with abduction experiences and this is what you get - you get people who have their own fantasy world that crosses over into the real world and these guys believe in their experience of it and it is partially a supernatural experience which to them, further supports their belief in it.

    Now being creators (as we all are) but empowered creators via their experiences and their "awakenings" they experience massive synchronicities and other psi events which further solidify their beliefs.

    It doesn't mean any of it is actually real. It doesn't mean the info they receive, vet (to their satisfaction) is actually real. Yet they do know and have contacts with several interesting players on the world scene which means they could be used intentionally as disinfo agents. But, due to their "powers" as creator beings, they are able to generate real experiences that satisfy their requirements it is all actually real.

    Wilcock is an admitted ex-weed head. A current or ex-weed head can see that in an instant by watching/listening to the guy. Now let me make this clear, only a small percentage of folks who smoke weed ever go into psychosis events or episodes, but for those who do - it is an amazing state and magical things appear to occur. They are not limited to hallucinations that only the crazy one perceives. They can extend into the shared reality such that others are able to experience unusual psi events specifically along the lines of profound synchronicity experiences.

    So, please understand what I am saying about Ben, about Leo Zagami and likely about Wilcock though he has not smoked weed in years. I am unsure if Romanov smokes weed but I bet he does, although he probably only does it a little bit... one of those guys who probably gets hash and rolls it up in cigarettes like some of my Dutch friends love to do (and only at night... ahaha).

    Anyways, we shall see tomorrow if all's well in London as I suspect it will be. Take Care justoneman
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    Default Re: Stew Webb reveals Fulford as MI5 disinfo agent.

    Romanov definitely has a complex, I think Ben is stringing him along to get him out in the open (and thus proven his claim about the 70 kilos, brilliant) and see what comes out of it... then again Romanov has all the elements of a disinfo agent, his responses were vague and ambiguous, for God's sake the guy shows up with 70 kilos of tainted weed, admits he goes by different names, smuggles, now he says he's got a book, great! then let him spill it. ie. sh** or get off the pot, until then he's an unknown quantity, and being so unpredictable, makes him dangerous, as well as a talking head,

    But this doesn't reflect on Ben, unfortunately it comes with the territory, the guy has survived 6 attempts on his life, everyone is going to come at him from all angles, and when something turns out to be BS, like any decent journalist he has it on the record as a correction...
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    Romanov definitely has a complex, I think Ben is stringing him along to get him out in the open (and thus proven his claim about the 70 kilos, brilliant) and see what comes out of it... then again Romanov has all the elements of a disinfo agent, his responses were vague and ambiguous, for God's sake the guy shows up with 70 kilos of tainted weed, admits he goes by different names, smuggles, now he says he's got a book, great! then let him spill it. ie. sh** or get off the pot, until then he's an unknown quantity, and being so unpredictable, makes him dangerous, as well as a talking head,

    But this doesn't reflect on Ben, unfortunately it comes with the territory, the guy has survived 6 attempts on his life, everyone is going to come at him from all angles, and when something turns out to be BS, like any decent journalist he has it on the record as a correction...
    Well you and I are about his only advocates... I love the guy, wished I knew him, we would have a blast. I also believe him about those assassination attempts. Also, he did in fact have the Fukashima info a day or so in advance and no one gives him credit for it.

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    Default Re: Stew Webb reveals Fulford as MI5 disinfo agent.

    Everyone around Fulford, and drip feeding him information, is stuck in a matrix.

    That matrix is working overtime right now to apply the 2nd principle of deception and secrecy.

    First principle:

    If you control all the actions and items, you stick a lid over it and keep it deadly quiet.

    Second Principle:

    If you DON'T control all the actions and items, you have to create a signal noise that drowns out the truth.

    That Matrix is giving it welly ( a quaint British term ) right now because it's got a lot of exposed truths to confuse.

    Even the the leaky insiders have to be pretty well confused too. It's a master science and they are pretty damn good at it by now.

    At the end of the day, who cares if were well informed in advance or not. I don't.

    I just care that the outcome is good. I won't be any more chuffed up with pride about knowing it in advance than if i didn't. In fact, I'm sick of trying to keep up with it all.

    My priorities have shifted drastically recently. I'm becoming a very uncool seeker of primary functional trills again, like I haven't been since I was a 20 year old running on hormone overdrive. I know full well this life isn't all there is, but I'll deal with the rest when I get there.

    At 56, some would say I'm not old enough to be so sure i won't be around much longer. I'm as old as I feel, and I'm bloody well tired and ancient.


    You kids can keep a place for me, and I'll be asking you all for your grandfatherly wisdom sometime back around. I don't doubt that human life is going forward to greatness, I do doubt that our petty little egos and identities as they stand right now are going to make the transit. In fact, for the love of god, I hope very much they don't.

    That's where I think the Fulford 'plan' is not right. It's not his fault, he's doing his best under great adversity, but the full story ain't going to be anything like that simple, or that conservative.

    Best wishes to you all.
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    I don't think Fulford is supposed to be taken literally, have you ever heard politicians speak? they're visionaries, they talk about ideas, I don't think anyone can sit down, and make a plan and articulate how to undo centuries of masonic evil in a 30 min presentation, everyone always wants it on a silver platter with fancy napkins...

    The issue is are you aware these people exist? because it's people like Ben who deal with them in real time are the ones that have woken us up and made us aware. Do you know they survive and thrive by virtue of your ignorance and lack of empathy?... all this sh** is happening because people simply can't make the leap, are too comfortable in their meaningless lives to do anything about it. re: his predictions, there are other sources about the Nuclear bomb planting besides Fulford, and he has made very relevant predictions which came true like the other earthquake that happened right on that other Nuclear Reactor.

    Japan is a threat to the Cabal because they have been parasitically feeding off of Japan's economic production for decades, and now Japan wants let off the leash. Japan desperately wants to stop being dependent on oil (as their country has none) They lived and worked like slaves for the last 70 years to pay off their war debt, (which btw according to Winston Shrout, after 70 years a country is free from any debt, check the timing... ) and they want their freedom and Ben wants to help them. What people don't understand is if Japan can gain her freedom, the world wins, Japan is actually a nexus point in many ways, technologically, financially, the YEN is a reference currency for all other currencies on the FX, and they have demonstrated at least two commercially designed and functioning hydrogen on demand automobiles... and a host of other technologies just waiting to burst onto the mainstream... is any of this clicking for anybody? the implications people!!!

    I think Ben assumes that because what he speaks is either blatantly obvious or he is so close to it, or that he always records the evidence in case of legal attack (true to his journalistic acumen)... or that people have been following him from the beginning and that may be a mistake. I do remember when I first saw and heard him, I thought he was a flake, but realized he spent his whole life in the background, writing, he never planned on being a video presenter, but he took the job anyway, probably out of desperation to protect his own life. Everyone is caught in their own egocentricity and doesn't see the big picture, case in point; if Stephen Greer wasn't such an egocentric he would have picked up the phone and called Japan about their hydrogen fuel vechicle instead of foolishly trying to buy the Stan Meyer patents) but no he was too busy asking for donations to buy the patents, which turned out to be incomplete, and the family apparently turned them down anyway... If Steven Greer can be that bullheaded and egocentric, what of us? No wonder the elites think we're a bunch of retards...
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    I don't think Fulford is supposed to be taken literally, have you ever heard politicians speak? they're visionaries, they talk about ideas, I don't think anyone can sit down, and make a plan and articulate how to undo centuries of masonic evil in a 30 min presentation, everyone always wants it on a silver platter with fancy napkins...

    The issue is are you aware these people exist? because it's people like Ben who deal with them in real time are the ones that have woken us up and made us aware. Do you know they survive and thrive by virtue of your ignorance and lack of empathy?... all this sh** is happening because people simply can't make the leap, are too comfortable in their meaningless lives to do anything about it. re: his predictions, there are other sources about the Nuclear bomb planting besides Fulford, and he has made very relevant predictions which came true like the other earthquake that happened right on that other Nuclear Reactor.

    Japan is a threat to the Cabal because they have been parasitically feeding off of Japan's economic production for decades, and now Japan wants let off the leash. Japan desperately wants to stop being dependent on oil (as their country has none) They lived and worked like slaves for the last 70 years to pay off their war debt, (which btw according to Winston Shrout, after 70 years a country is free from any debt, check the timing... ) and they want their freedom and Ben wants to help them. What people don't understand is if Japan can gain her freedom, the world wins, Japan is actually a nexus point in many ways, technologically, financially, the YEN is a reference currency for all other currencies on the FX, and they have demonstrated at least two commercially designed and functioning hydrogen on demand automobiles... and a host of other technologies just waiting to burst onto the mainstream... is any of this clicking for anybody? the implications people!!!

    I think Ben assumes that because what he speaks is either blatantly obvious or he is so close to it, or that he always records the evidence in case of legal attack (true to his journalistic acumen)... or that people have been following him from the beginning and that may be a mistake. I do remember when I first saw and heard him, I thought he was a flake, but realized he spent his whole life in the background, writing, he never planned on being a video presenter, but he took the job anyway, probably out of desperation to protect his own life. Everyone is caught in their own egocentricity and doesn't see the big picture, case in point; if Stephen Greer wasn't such an egocentric he would have picked up the phone and called Japan about their hydrogen fuel vechicle instead of foolishly trying to buy the Stan Meyer patents) but no he was too busy asking for donations to buy the patents, which turned out to be incomplete, and the family apparently turned them down anyway... If Steven Greer can be that bullheaded and egocentric, what of us? No wonder the elites think we're a bunch of retards...
    Awesome Post Sigma6... Thanks very very much. many very well made points. If Modwiz and RMorgan are saying Thanks... that really says something (thanks to both you guys too).

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    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    Quote Posted by jackovesk (here)
    Even Ben's own Illuminati Buddy thinks Ben is (Full of It)...

    BENJAMIN FULFORD VS ILLUMINATI NEW


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9_rqo4Ic9I

    Short Transcript at start of Video @ 20 to 40 secs

    Quote Ben Fulford Quote: "I do recommend you listen to this guy, he's not just some 'Flaky Guy' off the internet Ok...!"

    Alexanda Romanoff Quote: "Un-Like yourself..!" (Laughs out Loud)
    PS - In all Seriousness, how can you take Ben Fulford Seriously to Start with anyways..???
    In this video, Ben and Alexander discuss an attack that is supposed to occur in London in two days - on June 11, 2012 and in this attack some 13,000 people are supposed to die.
    Fortunately there was no such occurrence in London today.

    I am glad that the discussed attack did not happen as I assume everyone else is as well.

    The noose does seem to be tightening though around the necks of the satanic practicing cabal and Ben made reference to an interesting component... (emphasis mine).

    "We also need to keep in mind the possibility that the blockage of the financial system in the West does not originate either with the Federal Reserve Board families, the committee of 300, the P2, the BIS or any other human organization. In that case, the rogue artificial intelligence story being put out by MJ12 will have to be taken seriously. It would mean temporarily ending all electronic money, unplugging all bank and financial institution computers and reverting temporarily to cash and carry until the system can be safely rebooted. This is the worst case scenario for financial system collapse. It will mean considerable, temporary, hardship but not mass starvation."

    ... made reference to non-human entities and specifically a rogue artificial intelligence. Glad to see Ben mentioning this possibility. He has also mentioned (though he tries his best to stay away from such stuff in fears it damages his credibility with a wider but less open minded audience) positive ETs in previous reports.

    justoneman

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    Default Re: Stew Webb reveals Fulford as MI5 disinfo agent.

    Stew on Sean Morton's AFR radio talking about the Illuminati meeting on the 20th - 21st at Kimble Castle in Colorado, calling for many to show up and film them.

    http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/schedules.html
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