Don't dare tell me ETs are helping...while Fukushima melts down.

[Dennis Leahy]

Don't dare tell me ETs are helping...
...while Fukushima melts down.

Tell me you saw an ET ship, tell me you saw an ET, tell me you got abducted - but STOP telling me that ETs are here to intervene to "save Gaia" or "save humanity", and yet they sit on their extra-dimensional Naugahyde couches eating extra-dimensional potato chips and drinking extra-dimensional Mountain Dew - while Fukushima melts down.

Whoever made-up the story that ETs are here to intervene is full of fresh, steaming, manure. Stop repeating the unsubstantiated crapola!

Dennis

p.s. Does gold shield radiation like lead does? If yes, then everyone on Earth, individuals and governments, surrender your gold and we'll melt it all and pour it over Fukushima.

[Kindred]

No Dennis... I'm afraid that they will only intervene when we stop shooting at them...

On a more serious note, ... Again, No. 'They' won't help us until we start doing right by ourselves. This Earthly manifestation is a 'school'... we need to Learn, sometimes the hard way - unfortunately. Non-interference is something they've learned - at least the positives. They recognize this school for what it is. Yes, I wish it were otherwise - so many lives are ruined or lost in the process, and not only human.

You can be certain that there are technologies that can be employed to eliminate radiation. In fact, I suspect that 'we' have said technology... but it's under 'control'. So much for 'compassion' from these 'controllers'... it fits their typical pattern though.

You can also be certain that there have been Many other 'civilizations' that have experienced exactly what we're going through, both here, and on other worlds. Some wise up and make the necessary changes. Others go down the path of self-destruction. This happens all too often.

Ultimately, Earth will survive, and other life will flourish in time. Hopefully, they will not make the same mistakes.

In Unity, Peace and Love

edit...: I remain hopeful and steadfast in my belief that we Will 'wise up', and make the necessary changes. It is in This effort - our 'changes' - that the ET's Will offer the assistance we require... but, no more than is minimally necessary.

[nearing]

Yeah, I am pretty much convinced that they CANNOT help us. Free will reigns here on 3D Earth. Any help that has been attributed to them has really been ourselves intervening with our collective consciousness.

On the other hand, I don't think they can harm us either. (maybe make us uncomfortable, but to do real harm)

I think this guy has it right when it comes to 'ETs':

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bC7NM7g0S0

[gripreaper]

What has happened to your savior complex? Don't you realize all the effort that has been put into mankind believing in saviors? I mean, the entire religious paradigm has many believing that there will be a rapture of all the good people and the rest of us will be tortured for years and then sent to burn in hell forever.

There are several threads on this forum which routinely get hijacked with dogmatic fundamentalism, based on savior mythologies, and it's so disheartening to see how the savior myth remains so deeply imbedded in the human psyche, and how this forum still has this archaic, insane, and fear mongering mythology here.

Between the Channeling threads, the Drake threads, the ET' savior threads and the Bible threads, it's daunting! When are we going to wake up and accept self responsibility and self realization and let go of the savior myths? Why does this forum have 80% of the postings in the context of the savior meme when this is supposed to be the most awake and aware forum on the net?

[Kindred]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Between the Channeling threads, the Drake threads, the ET' savior threads and the Bible threads, it's daunting! When are we going to wake up and accept self responsibility and self realization and let go of the savior myths? Why does this forum have 80% of the postings in the context of the savior myth when this is supposed to be the most awake and aware forum on the net?

Yes... it can be daunting. A 'savior' is what children look for... a parent that will help them out when they get into a fix. It's what we've been taught since time immemorial. One thing to remember... a child will burn his hand in the learning of not putting one's hand in the fire in the first place. Unfortunately, in this case, we're not children, and the 'fire' is far more destructive this time around.

Just the same, as I said above; I remain hopeful and steadfast in my belief that we Will 'wise up', and make the necessary changes. It is in This effort - our 'changes' - that the ET's Will offer the assistance we require... but, no more than is minimally necessary.

This 'experiment' that Earth is, has too much potential, along with the fact that there has been so much 'negative' influence, which the 'benevolents' recognize.

In Unity, Peace and Love

[doodah]

I'll pick up a little of Dennis's outrage here:

What do you mean "we" need to wise up? I'm not the one preventing a world-wide volunteer effort to deal with Fukushima. Put me in charge and I'll take most of the Pentagon/DARPA budget and put it toward doing whatever can be done. Who is this "we" you're talking about?

And what do you possibly mean by "free will reigns here on 3-D Earth"? If you read the Archons thread, we have ALL been interfered with without our knowledge or our free-will consent. Our own government uses us as guinea pigs without our knowledge or consent. What free will do you mean? Do I have the free will to not breathe the air that is laced with chemtrail nanoparticles? Did I have the free will to stop that program from ever happening when they've done it in secret behind our backs and above our heads and they won't answer any questions about how that whole program came to be and who's doing it? What free will do you mean?

The stupidest part of our 3-D situation as it is explained by so many is that "the good guys" can't help us, but "the bad guys" can do whatever they want to... and HAVE done, and ARE doing. This strikes me as the flimsiest cop-out effort to explain why the world has always been an unjust and unfair place. Oh we should thank them for being so mean to us, otherwise we wouldn't grow. Are you kidding? Do you think your potato plants will grow better if you throw gasoline on them and beat them with a stick? No, I don't think so, and a human being is not that different, biologically, from a potato plant. We are meant to learn and grow in joy, not deprivation, poverty, squalor, radiation sickness and genetic mutation.

No, nobody is going to help us, and that includes the majority of the human race. Can YOU do something about Fukushima? If so, then for Christ's sake, go do it. Those who could do something are not doing it, they're all standing around watching it happen. It would take every person on the planet marching out of their homes and DEMANDING that all the nonsense stop - a worldwide revolution - with MILLIONS of people willing to lay their bodies down in front of the tanks, and take the TASER fire, and whatever else godawful weapons would be used against us.

Otherwise, you as an individual can wise up as many have done, you can make a few waves, you can tell a few truths, then you're suddenly dead, and the world rolls along as always with those in charge still in charge. Only a mass worldwide uprising that is so big that it CANNOT be co-opted (like the Egyptian revolt was) will change things on this planet. But by that time, most of us will be too irradiated, or too dead, to care.

This plan is working, by the way. There was a PLAN. It was published in the public domain somewhere, can't remember what it was called, that called for the nuking of North America, cleaning it out. It seems to me that Fukushima and the Gulf of Mexico disaster is that PLAN brought to fruition. We've been nuked, they don't have to do it with bombs. And consider that we have something like 27 nuclear power plants sitting on fault lines in the US. Why in the world would anybody in their right minds build those plants in those places?

Dennis, I don't mean to be a total downer here. I share your outrage, but on the other hand, I think we're going to SHIFT out of here and those who want this creation the way it is can stay here with it. WE by our free-will desire and intent will SHIFT out of here. The ETs aren't going to take us away, WE are going to SHIFT. I could tell you long stories about why I think this is true, but I'll just suggest that we all practice SHIFTING to a better world ... what that would feel like, how our thinking would change, what we would be doing on a daily basis, how all the threads in this Forum would be different.

Love and peace,
~ Doodah

[apokalypse]

hmmmm! we screw it up and expect someone come in to save us? ...where's our responsibility?

[Dennis Leahy]

Doodah, I have no indication, nothing tangible, to suggest that the tales, stories, "prophecies" are anything but wishful thinking.

For proof that Earth is indeed a really tough place to be incarnated, we have somewhere in the range of 7,000 to 10,000 individuals that underwent past life regressive hypnosis and broke through to spirit memory (Dr. Michael Newton), and I don't know how many more confirmed the same "general" scenario through Dolores Cannon and Dr. Brian Weiss, etc. I read all of Dr. Michael Newton's books (he's very pragmatic and had to be pummelled with story after story that were similar to believe any of it.) Dolores Cannon may be reporting more on the interesting anomaly cases, rather than Newton's approach of sort of averaging multiple confirmations. She does talk more about "shifting" and also of ET intervention (and of a great deal of 'spirit" intervention.)

So, what's the truth? I don't know.

My outburst is, (of course), my frustration. Like you, I am pissed off that we cannot have a period of peace, truth, love, infinite compassion, abundance... there must be some pretty cool lessons to learn with that too. But no, we're stuck on a planet with either rampant self-inflicted stupidity or with people born into a control grid so effective, none of us ever really escape it totally (and most are fully immersed in it.)

Like the story of the Buddhist monk at the edge of the stream, plucking the scorpion out of the water to keep it from drowning, I find that I simply cannot turn and walk away from humanity (to just work on myself.) I cannot walk away from humanity whether we are conscious at least at some level that we have given up our sovereignty and our conscious source-connection, or if we are in a stupor.

So, I return to the stream and extend my hand. But, dammit, I do scream out in pain when the scorpion stings!

Dennis

[Operator]

Ahum, actually, they're here so we can help them ... (I'm not kidding).

And we have got the technology to help ourselves too. But it can't be used publicly.
Just wonder where all the info from this website http://andersoninstitute.com/ did go since a couple of months ago.

[goinghome2012]

James Horak has mentioned in his videos in the Continuing search for truth that ets have stopped two nuclear wars, there has been some evidence concerning ets disabling nuclear war heads

I'm not sure if Fukushima disaster was man made from Haarp or caused by Mother Earth changes, either way humanity has been warned long time to stop using nuclear energy and move into free energy systems.

yes humanity will learn the hard way

spread the peace, love and truth

[Wind]

Only we can save ourselves.

[Mulder]

I think the Ets have saved us many times and are making things better than they would be without them. Eg. some witnesses say ETs are removing nukes and weapons, they are stopping CERN, and doing other cool things.

[starninja]

Posted by Mulder (here)
I think the Ets have saved us many times and are making things better than they would be without them. Eg. some witnesses say ETs are removing nukes and weapons, they are stopping CERN, and doing other cool things.

Thanks for good laughter. Your convictions are......so sweet. We love adult version of Cinderella story or Peter Pan.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TsOxQNe2vc

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

If i was in a position to help and didn't I'd feel real bad about that...

I do think they are switching NUKES off as they are being launched all over the place, and we'll never know.

[GalaxyHorse]

Applause....yes, thank goodness someone else is thinking in the same vein, Avalon has really changed in the past year,
it went from being intensely engaging, enlightening and educational, to being yet another soap box for the Ego driven doomsayers.
Mind you, at least there are still some healthy elements-vital tissue left. I get the feeling we are all waiting for something BIG to happen.
...'It's better than sitting round waitin' to die'; as the song goes. The Waiting Room it should be called.

[D-Day]

I have no desire to be saved by anyone (or anything).
I've accepted the fact that I chose to come here for a reason... to experience.
What will be will be, we just need to allow ourselves to be ok with that.
Regardless of whatever it ends up looking like at the end of the day.
The good, the bad, the ugly... ultimately it's all good IMO.
All just part of the experience.
I don't think we need to complicate things for ourselves any more than that.

[niki]

like I often said: where is the solid PROOF of all these "ETs are helping?" ...
and not just some made-up creative/clever wishful-thinking/fantasy/creative human's imaginations?..

until then, unfortunately, I need to keep a dose bit of my "3D real-world" skepticism...

[Dennis Leahy]

The ETs may be alerting me to go to my stove when pancakes need to be flipped. I could make up a convincing story about that. Maybe even throw in that they turned down the heat a little bit for me.

I'm sorry, the logic escapes me: they turn off nuclear warheads, but twiddle thumbs while Fukushima has already poisoned millions. I'm not buying it. I say, they are strictly observers, not helpers. In fact, not even friendly visitors - more like cockroaches that scatter when the light gets turned on. Hell, they would not have to DO anything. Just, "come out come out wherever you are!" You creepy peeping tom's, come on out and say hello, or board your ship and ship out.

If they did nothing but say hello, publicly, it would allow US humans to disrupt the flow of negativity from the psychopathic humans. Maybe it would be a turning point, but we would still have to make the turn.

Come out, or get out.

Dennis

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by D-DAY (here)
I have no desire to be saved by anyone (or anything).
I've accepted the fact that I chose to come here for a reason... to experience.
What will be will be, we just need to allow ourselves to be ok with that.
Regardless of whatever it ends up looking like at the end of the day.
The good, the bad, the ugly... ultimately it's all good IMO.
All just part of the experience.
I don't think we need to complicate things for ourselves any more than that.

I'm kinda with you on this D-Day, but geeeemany christmas, enough with the negative experiences already! I am confident that there is a lot to learn by having to make the transition to abundance and global compassion, to slough off prejudices, drop feuds, and embrace one another. That will be hard, but that's the work I want to do. .

The negativity and forced, "artificial" suffering is a huge distraction, and (as far as I can tell), has been going on for recorded history. At its worst, it is terrifying; at its best, it is like being slowly beaten to death with a spoon.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VDvgL58h_Y

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VDvgL58h_Y

Dennis

[christian]

In my view this 'ETs are helping with radiation' meme boils down to focusing the intention on clearing radiation. This is what I and many others do and it's not too far out to assume, that folks from out there do the same, not least because they want to heal themselves as well and understand that eventually everything is connected. This whole focusing intention stuff doesn't clear all the radiation today or tomorrow, but it does make a difference, it has already been proven, that thoughts and emotions alter physical reality.