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    Quote Posted by eileenrose (here)
    Now that disclosure is happening, I notice some people even here on PA are refusing to see it.

    Isn't that always the case?

    Things never turn out the way we expect them to. But that is the mind for you.

    I saw these posts (just 3 so far) as confirmations of exposure of aliens on our planet. I confirmed them (myself) through my own intuitive side. I posted my findings days before each of his three reports.

    But since I don't feel like negative ET attacks, I am not going to expose myself more than need be.

    Believe what you want to.

    But disclosure is just happening all around you, if you (anyone) cares to watch it happen.
    And who said it would happen in a way your mind can accept?

    ...just saying. You are the natives that didn't see the Spaniard ships (old story)...because they didn't exist in their version of reality. It took a shaman to show them (part of that story) they existed, at all.

    So I am saying, this is real. Sorry to dissappoint the naysayers. And I have no regrets about putting this out there (in public). Like I said in my previous post. This is for real. Take it or leave it. Doesn't matter (it's happening anyway).

    And yes, it is the greys. But you (deep down) already knew this. ...I can go into this if requested (from a nicer place then the previous 'hate kettler' postings).
    Disclosure is happening (drip drip), but this report seems a pretty feeble effort in that regard. And your belittling of those of us here that can discern that has not gone unnoticed.

    There might be a real interesting event behind the radiation and reported troop movements and such, but using this post of Kettler's to confirm your remote views and to describe the rational evidence gatherers in this thread as 'naysayers' is 'weak sauce', for Kettler's claims in this article are not backed up by any evidence of value, in my view.

    If there really was a captured ET ship at the airport, why does he post such an obvious BS drone picture (edit- ok he explains they created this fake-drone to hide what it really is), claim events at a location that hundreds would have observed, yet no others have reported, and then he links (green-glowing UFO) to a picture that has been spread around the internet for years and implies it is from this event?

    That is either tremendously sloppy or just plain disingenuous. I don't 'hate Kettler', I hate sloppy reporting and/or disingenuous attempts to mislead people.

    The previous, well-documented event at this airport (Nov 7, 2006) was reported by flight crews, pilots, workers on the ground, tower employees, was visible on radar, and produced enough evidence that it has been the subject of several TV shows.

    The only aspect of Disclosure that Kettler's article supports is that the field is overrun with disinfo and/or unsupported claims. It is beginning to look like Kettler is trying to see how far he can stretch his absurdities and still find believers, as if he is really Tavistock Institute - US division.

    And no your remote views or visions prior to this report don't give his report (in its current form) any more validity, in my rational and intuitively-supported opinion.

    Edit: I am certainly ready and able and waiting for additional witness reports or other evidence to these airport events, but until then I would hope that if Kettler is disclosing real info he would do a better job of credible reporting, making it clear where stock photos are used, providing supplementary evidence, etc.

    Some discussion from GLP that might be closer to the real situation:

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age1894063/pg8

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    My thought is that it is diversion/disinfo to get people to think that this thing is what caused the radiation ---- while they are covering what really did cause it.

    Anybody got a geiger counter to try to check the area around this drone out?

    Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17690801

    This was meant to be seen...thus they wanted the shape to be known.

    If this was to do with the radiation from a few days back, this would be the decoy. While everybody was looking at this heading in that direction, then we should have looked what was going the other direction, because that what would have been important.

    if this was really important, they would have disguised the shape much better. This was intentional.

    1. Moved in daylight
    2. Shape clearly visible
    3. Put on "display" at rest area (even brought construction cones)
    4. Stopping makes it a target (and a great photo op). They even brought a spare truck and trailer, but cant put two drivers in each rig to keep it moving?

    No doubt, it was intentional. What is more important is why?
    Even later edit: I have read all the comments at Kettler's site, including Eileen's. I could believe something happened, and even that this picture could be of something else disguised to appear to be a US drone.

    What I can't rationally go along with, is that a 'green glowing UFO ... sat there motionless on the ground for hours' at O'Hare without someone external to Kettler's sources noticing and reporting on this incident - including tying it to an O'Hare location, during it's time on the ground, treatments and examination by various government persons, it's wrapping, and loading on this truck for transport.

    I would expect if all this happened, it was either somewhere other than O'Hare, or maybe the MIB flashed their device and all witnesses lost their memories.

    I would love to be proved wrong, and await any updates to add credence to this account.
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    Default Re: John Kettler - UFO Daylight Landing At Chicago’s O’Hare Airport–Breaking!

    What's the purpose of these drones? They wouldn't happen to have anything to do with the suspected, impending false alien attack would they?

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    Default Re: John Kettler - UFO Daylight Landing At Chicago’s O’Hare Airport–Breaking!

    I'm frustrated that it took off again without packing off a whole bunch of sheep to another planet as they keep insistently promising us.

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    Default Re: John Kettler - UFO Daylight Landing At Chicago’s O’Hare Airport–Breaking!

    I'm not buying it.

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    Quote How could a "green glowing ufo" land at O'Hare airport and sit there for hours.

    No Photo's no video?

    I would like to believe it. But I don't think so.

    And then get transported all the way to area51.

    Now thats just silly, only some pics from one rest stop.
    I agree. Sounds too phony....

    Quote Because it broke? Made in USA not in Outer Space..

    Forced landing due to technical problems. Immobilized. Needed to be rescued.

    </speculation>
    Could possibly be made in China... crap parts sold to the military....

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    Quote Stardust, I honestly believe this was a stunt to create a buzz. The more disinformation and hooha floating around the better we might miss an important story in all the noise. This was meant to make people think it was a UFO, IMO. It could even be the reason for 'protecting' it in a wrap.
    I also have no way of knowing I am correct. My statements are my considered observations and opinions. I would not be so pig-headed as to say "I know" what is under the tarp. I am not insisting you are incorrect either. Perhaps we could start a raffle, LOL.
    I agree with modwiz on this. AND I think it's pretty strange that it landed with NO occupants on board. Most likely it was remotely flown in to cause some stir with people. If it's anything, I'm betting that black ops is behind this event.
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    The mechanics at the airport are more accustomed to working on Boeing airplanes, and civilians are usually not invited to peer into the workings of highly secured military aircraft lest there is the chance they sell that technology to some fourth world nation?

    Why did the men in black ominously pull weapons on curious stander bys at the rest area. It's not exactly evidence that is a ufo, Civilians are not usually invited to peer into the workings of highly secured military aircraft lest .....

    Other remote viewers are not interested in rv'ing this episode because its not interesting.

    Quote Posted by Anchor (here)
    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    Quote Posted by modwiz (here)
    This is a stealth aircraft. The window bump is distinct above the forward, single, wheel. The tapering body towards the tail is also there if one looks for it. It has the 3 wheel position of any fighter jet.

    If it were in fact one of our stealth fighters, then why wouldn't they just fly it to where it needs to go? How often do you see a perfectly good plane being driven down the street?
    <speculation>

    Because it broke? Made in USA not in Outer Space..

    Forced landing due to technical problems. Immobilized. Needed to be rescued.

    </speculation>

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    Quote Posted by danceblackcatdance (here)
    Quote Posted by eileenrose (here)

    ...Doesn't matter (it's happening anyway).

    ...I can go into this if requested
    I think / feel similarly.. It's happening regardless... Here's a request to go into this more pls & thx
    Well, one nice request. (and one negative retort).

    So mixed reception on my reporting what I saw myself. Not so much about John, as I don't know him, his crew, his posts, his ETs or anything regarding their set up.
    I just sit at home and have visions/use remote viewing. It is a hobby.

    So I will add the one extra element. I saw it in flight, or at least it had lights on it.

    so there...another tidbit. It works.

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    I can commiserate I'd prefer remote viewers to observe to change the circumstances of certain events, but since they prefer to use it to predict the future rather than change circumstances now, there isn't anything I can do about it.

    This a circumstance that I don't particularly feel is change worthy. If it is a ufo I'm sure its plans for future use aren't pinned on the control panel for all to read.

    If it's a military craft I'm sure its intended use isn't pinned on the control panel for all to read.

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    Quote Well, one nice request. (and one negative retort).

    So mixed reception on my reporting what I saw myself. Not so much about John, as I don't know him, his crew, his posts, his ETs or anything regarding their set up.
    I just sit at home and have visions/use remote viewing. It is a hobby.

    So I will add the one extra element. I saw it in flight, or at least it had lights on it.

    so there...another tidbit. It works.
    I'm thinking that sometimes we just don't understand what we're seeing in a vision or remote viewing. You might have seen it and thought it was UFO, but what was it really? How many times do people see lights in the sky that turned out to be nothing more than the military's latest secret plane? People misidentify all the time. Why not in visions and remote viewing?

    I recently was shown in a vision some type of device/technology that had many long spikes coming out of it. Then I saw the spikes shattered into many shards. While I was trying to mentally figure that out, I realized that this thing had kept things in balance. Then, I heard a strange voice saying "Don't use this against John (Kettler) or he'll kick your a**".. I had to laugh at the threat. Why the threat? Did this whole vision mean that Kettler is upsetting the balance of things?
    Hell if I know what this vision meant..... Do you?

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    Just the USA showing off its brutal aggressive military strength to the rest of the world, where there is uncontained and unstainable population growth and depeletion/corrpution of natural resources?
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    In one of Kettler's interviews he mentioned being given a recipe for dead lizzies from the ETDs. That kind of blew all of his credibility for me. It seems this isn't going to do it much good either.

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    Quote Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
    Quote Well, one nice request. (and one negative retort).

    So mixed reception on my reporting what I saw myself. Not so much about John, as I don't know him, his crew, his posts, his ETs or anything regarding their set up.
    I just sit at home and have visions/use remote viewing. It is a hobby.

    So I will add the one extra element. I saw it in flight, or at least it had lights on it.

    so there...another tidbit. It works.
    I'm thinking that sometimes we just don't understand what we're seeing in a vision or remote viewing. You might have seen it and thought it was UFO, but what was it really? How many times do people see lights in the sky that turned out to be nothing more than the military's latest secret plane? People misidentify all the time. Why not in visions and remote viewing?

    I recently was shown in a vision some type of device/technology that had many long spikes coming out of it. Then I saw the spikes shattered into many shards. While I was trying to mentally figure that out, I realized that this thing had kept things in balance. Then, I heard a strange voice saying "Don't use this against John (Kettler) or he'll kick your a**".. I had to laugh at the threat. Why the threat? Did this whole vision mean that Kettler is upsetting the balance of things?
    Hell if I know what this vision meant..... Do you?
    Are you asking how I knew it was a UFO and not some enigma of my mind? That is why I post them verses keeping it to myself (my visions/remote views). I've been predicting/seeing for the last some odd years now and each one gets verified, in its own time. I just don't make money at it and always keep checking, with others, to see what actually manifest (verses what the 'ether' demonstrated (to me)). Make sense now?

    ...so I am fine if I am dis-credited as I don't charge nor collect fees, so it makes little difference (to mine self). I just do it to demonstrate it's feasibility. Must be the scientist in me.

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    Quote Posted by eileenrose (here)
    Are you asking how I knew it was a UFO and not some enigma of my mind? That is why I post them verses keeping it to myself (my visions/remote views). I've been predicting/seeing for the last some odd years now and each one gets verified, in its own time. I just don't make money at it and always keep checking, with others, to see what actually manifest (verses what the 'ether' demonstrated (to me)). Make sense now?

    ...so I am fine if I am dis-credited as I don't charge nor collect fees, so it makes little difference (to mine self). I just do it to demonstrate it's feasibility. Must be the scientist in me.
    So I read that in the context of your former statement:

    Quote Posted by eileenrose (here)
    Now that disclosure is happening, I notice some people even here on PA are refusing to see it.

    ....

    ...just saying. You are the natives that didn't see the Spaniard ships (old story)...because they didn't exist in their version of reality. It took a shaman to show them (part of that story) they existed, at all.


    So I am saying, this is real. Sorry to dissappoint the naysayers. And I have no regrets about putting this out there (in public). Like I said in my previous post. This is for real. Take it or leave it. Doesn't matter (it's happening anyway).
    Are you performing the role of shaman?

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    No one has proved this story either way. Nor can they. This is the nature of this Alt Media/MSM game.

    All we have are opinions and speculation - no matter how they came about - and there do seem to be to elements of a cover story that suggest that something odd is going on here in the material that was associated with this in the main stream media.

    My personal theory is that this is orchestrated distraction so we don't see something else - either in this situation, or another happening elsewhere.

    And so it goes on...

    A lot of RV'rs I have read about steer clear of Military work since that is often "guarded" and there are interesting things to greet curious civilian RV'rs who are in a state of polarity when working.

    The RV'rs who are unaffected by that, are those above the polarity game anyway and usually have no comment.

    Either-way we don't get any further information
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    Anchor people who RV the military and black ops have minds like fortresses. The Military using the same mental tricks are just another branch of the masters of psychology ; its not a place for people 'who think ' they know what they are doing or that 'white' lite will protect them because it doesn't have anything to do with lite. It's a learned mental ability and people who are good at it have very agile and suspicious minds. You have to know the tricks of the opponent in order to navigate spaces like that undetected because they can snag you in so quick and have you dancing like a puppet in no time.

    I have to wonder why people who are so certain that ET's are are orchestrating world events, are even getting nightly pep talks from them, need an an official approval of "Disclosed" from the White House or United Nations.

    Most of us agree that there is extraterrestrial life out there good, bad and indifferent. This urgency that ET's to reveal themselves through official channels is what puzzles me when we know the official story tellers are liars. Is that going to make their existence more real? Because a pack of liars said it was?

    The urgency that ET's must come here and begin orchestrating things, period, is what puzzles me. MUST? Transferring our epidemic co-dependency off planet isn't a good idea.

    "I'm traveling across light years of space and the first thing I want to do when I arrive at my destination is start fixing things for people?" That is nearly like imposing our slave mentality unto them ; if there is anything in the world that would keep an advanced species away that would be it. It keeps non advanced species like myself away, anyway.

    If they are discreetly fixing things as some claim why would one want to reveal them to the parties that ****ed things up in the first place?

    A horrible terrible thought but what if they land and decide, (since they have free clearance to orchestrate everything) that we have to get rid of all our bull**** religions and special ideas we have about ourselves?

    Or because we've given them free pass to orchestrate everything and what we are currently experiencing is what they came up with because....we weren't using our critical thinking skills or having full disclosure within ourselves about what agreement entails?

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    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    Anchor people who RV the military and black ops have minds like fortresses. The Military using the same mental tricks are just another branch of the masters of psychology ; its not a place for people 'who think ' they know what they are doing or that 'white' lite will protect them because it doesn't have anything to do with lite. It's a learned mental ability and people who are good at it have very agile and suspicious minds. You have to know the tricks of the opponent in order to navigate spaces like that undetected because they can snag you in so quick and have you dancing like a puppet in no time.
    Yes, I like the way you put it. I was basically saying if you are a RV beginner, the military is not the best place to start snooping around.

    PS: just in case anyone thinks I am presenting myself as a RV expert, I am not. I don't even do it. The reason I don't play that way - even if I can - is because I know that it is a dangerous distraction for ME. It is my particular slip of arrogance to assume that this applies to other people, and if it does not, then sorry.

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    Default Re: John Kettler - UFO Daylight Landing At Chicago’s O’Hare Airport–Breaking!

    RV in general is going into another space that has long been refined and dominated by the 'not well intentioned'. Not all that different than spaces of astral travel where things are masked to prompt an emotional response.

    As you said the only people who have a chance of navigating that sort of space well are people who have done a lot of work on themselves and can remain,detached and not start having emotional reactions which are like blaring marquee announcements of one's presence or assign values to or projections on to what they are witnessing. Better yet not even thinking while one is doing it gives one a better chance of moving around undetected.

    On the other hand RV can be a powerful tool for change but one has to master themselves before they can utilize it in such a manner.

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    I had hoped that you wouldn't feel that way, eileenrose. You're not discredited per se. But sometimes we just don't know what we're seeing. It's good that you get the verification, though. It'll be interesting to see if that's the case with this so called UFO. But I'm thinking that the way this one is being handled is too suspicious. No aliens aboard? How weird is that?

    As for the gift wrapping, have you ever seen a hockey stick being gift wrapped? You can tell what it is by the shape. There are people like modwiz and others who can definitely identify air craft just by the shapes.

    Someone is pulling a fast one on Kettler.... IMO.

    I'm going to throw this one into the "Deceptions" pile....
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    just curious eileenrose, because i thought a while ago i saw you write something like you hadn't seen any evidence that ets are real, if thats so.. do you think they are now or this is a man made ufo craft?

    anyway, so.. just playing about with these are x-47b uav's

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    whatever this is, not only did they remove the panels that cover the wheels when they wrapped it (possible), but could be my imagination.. this looks absolutely huge in comparison to all the pics using the man for scale

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    edit: just playing about here... re: Kettler, i love the stories (obviously) but the skeptical part of me wants proof (naturally)..
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    Default Re: John Kettler - UFO Daylight Landing At Chicago’s O’Hare Airport–Breaking!

    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    RV in general is going into another space that has long been refined and dominated by the 'not well intentioned'. Not all that different than spaces of astral travel where things are masked to prompt an emotional response.

    As you said the only people who have a chance of navigating that sort of space well are people who have done a lot of work on themselves and can remain,detached and not start having emotional reactions which are like blaring marquee announcements of one's presence or assign values to or projections on to what they are witnessing. Better yet not even thinking while one is doing it gives one a better chance of moving around undetected.

    On the other hand RV can be a powerful tool for change but one has to master themselves before they can utilize it in such a manner.
    Does that include being house trained?

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