an object slipped past the editors of NASA archive footage?

[mojo]

Our member 1967sander has been quiet for a while (no uploads for 4 months) I hope he is ok sharing what he is sharing I'm sure some eyebrows are raised. I visited his channel searching for more gems of his analysis on NASA footage. I found the clip below interesting. The astronaut is startled for sure and the response by the other is questionable at best.



UFO or exploding styrofoam
video description:

As we all know by now, NASA carefully edits, slices and tampers audio / video tapes. Fortunately they missed this one or they did not believe it to have anything interesting on it. They were wrong! This video tape is archived under: Journal 123:27:46. It shows the moonwalk / EVA number 1 - site 5 in the year 1972.

So what happened:

While the two astronauts of Apollo 17 are collecting samples of the moon (rocks) one of the astronauts suddenly gets excited as he spots a series of objects flying over him.

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ--TsrzXGQ

Normally the Apollo astronauts carefully followed a "script" and so they knew exactly what and when to say but as this astronaut saw something he never seen before he does not any longer follow the script. Instead a long and not planned conversation starts. The astronaut is really amazed. Unlike his colleague, so he asks what these objects were that flew over his head. Than it becomes hilarious. Totally surprised the second astronaut does not know what to say! This was not in the script. He is however aware of the fact that they are being watched, by NASA and the public back on earth. After a short period of silence he tells "us" that it was a blast coming from the dial shaped disc of the high gain antenna on the rover (vehicle). More objects start flying over and again we hear genuine excitement.





Here is 1967sander's channel link:
http://www.youtube.com/user/1967sander?feature=watch

[jagman]

Excellent analysis of the video mojo. Imo the astronaut was having an experience he couldnt explain and I got the feeling the other astronaut
had seen these object before and was trying to makeup some bs excuse until his astronaut buddy could regain his composure. (Then debriefed)
I dont know who these Apollo atronauts were but im guessing the guy making the excuses is the senior officer and the astronaut who was clearly
in shock was the junior officer. This reminds me of when i was a teenager. I had a kid brother who was fifteen, So I had to take him everywhere
with me. We did the usual, Drank beer and chased women around. ( goodtimes ) Anyway my kid brother couldnt lie worth a crap so I always had
step in during mother or fathers questioning.

[Vitalux]

Perhaps it more easy to explain if consider another possibility.
This whole Apollo thing is being staged inside on a big movie set.
There is a professional film crew that is operating the camera and moving it around.

Ask yourself the simple question, "If there are only two Astro-NOTs walking around on the moon, and they are both being filmed by the same camera, then who is controlling the camera?"

If your brain cells are working, you might figure out that some other person other than the two astro-nots are working the camera.
Therefore, there is a film crew, and you are watching a faked moon landing.

I know many people really really really want to believe, that America Landed Men on the MOON, but it is fake.

The only Mooning that NASA did was they MOONED the World.

therefore, you are looking at joking between the crew throwing pop cans or things onto the set

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gem10A4yt5w

[jagman]

Stanley Kubrick ( The Master ) did shoot a fake landing. The reason he did this was in case something went wrong with the real landing.
Nasa loves spreading disinformation. I think thats why they always tell Richard Hoagland half truths & lies. Too many satelites have took
pics of the original landing zone. Last year one of China satelites actually captured a pic of our rover.

[Turcurulin]

The Apollo 17 astronauts that walked the lunar surface were Eugene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt. Ronald Evans was the astronaut to remain in lunar orbit during this mission.

Also, while it is clear that there have been faked moon-landings, a moving camera does not necessarily denote a faked mission. Cameras, and other instruments, can be controlled remotely from Earth. One can see remote-controlled camera footage from space-station videos, etc.

[sdv]

Also, while it is clear that there have been faked moon-landings, a moving camera does not necessarily denote a faked mission. Cameras, and other instruments, can be controlled remotely from Earth. One can see remote-controlled camera footage from space-station videos, etc.

There were cameras on the Rover and on the landing module: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_TV_camera

I don't believe the claims of moon landing debunkers because all their 'proof' is so easily debunked.

Oh and the astronaut who was so excited about the objects passing over him was excited because he thought it was a meoterite!

Styrofoam? They really used styrofoam? Isn't that so much part of the rampant capitalist ideology - not enough to pollute Earth, so let's pollute the Moon and space with styrofoam!

[Vitalux]

Posted by jagman (here)
Stanley Kubrick ( The Master ) did shoot a fake landing. The reason he did this was in case something went wrong with the real landing.
Nasa loves spreading disinformation. I think thats why they always tell Richard Hoagland half truths & lies. Too many satelites have took
pics of the original landing zone. Last year one of China satelites actually captured a pic of our rover.

In my world, when I run into a pathological liar that repeatedly gets caught in one lie after another there is a point where I become disenchanted and adopt a new understanding.

Like I said, In my mind, "American's" really really really want to believe they went to the Moon, therefore nothing else will penetrate into their reasoning.

There really is a Santa Clause, that guy at the Mall dress in the Santa suite is just filling in for Santa who couldn't make it


Easter bunny must be real because I saw the Easter eggs he left in my parents house when I was... a a kid

[mojo]

There's alot on both sides and perhaps some were created landings made on a set and others were the real deal. The real landings seemed to have attracted some attention and Sanders has some amazing analysis showing structures and craft in orbit observing what we were doing there on the moon. You know, after seeing how corrupt things politically have gotten I can understand why they would want to watch us so closely when we were there. I wouldnt trust us... Our leaders really owe us the truth now and it would go along way in instilling our confidence back in them. We can handle the truth...

[UnrealDreams]

I really wish I had saved the Youtube video I found months back. It was a NASA 'low frequency' video of space. There were tons of archons, and many unidentified space craft out there in space, mostly cigar shaped crafts. The video has since been removed and is surely banned. It cannot be found anywhere.

[Maia Gabrial]

Ask yourself the simple question, "If there are only two Astro-NOTs walking around on the moon, and they are both being filmed by the same camera, then who is controlling the camera?"

What a great catch, Vitalux! And I also think that if you pay attention to what's reflecting on their visors, that could be telling, too in other videos...

My question to NASA is if these were just practice runs, then why didn't they just say so? Why let more doubt shroud the Moon mission?

[Rosco1]

Hi Mojo,

Here are some screenshots of the UFOs in question from your 1st post.

I did manipulate the screenshot using shadow & light only to enhance what can be seen.

[Vitalux]

Posted by Turcurulin (here)
The Apollo 17 astronauts that walked the lunar surface were Eugene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt. Ronald Evans was the astronaut to remain in lunar orbit during this mission.

Also, while it is clear that there have been faked moon-landings, a moving camera does not necessarily denote a faked mission. Cameras, and other instruments, can be controlled remotely from Earth. One can see remote-controlled camera footage from space-station videos, etc.

What sort of problems do you think would exist in trying to remotely control a video camera from 240 000 miles away?
Do you suppose that there would be any time delay between transmissions?
Think about that next time you watch a satellite news link between a news reporter and news anchorman on CNN when he is chatting from the opposite side of Earth which is less than 12 000 miles.

I can understand your enthusiasm to wish to believe the Moon landings were real, but if you really do some good investigation, you will just might break out of the deception. It is amazing to see how many keen minds can't.
Once you do, it makes the world actually make so much more sense because NASA is a total bull**** propaganda entity.
They are so convincing that they could sell an Eskimo a new fridge in winter.

[Turcurulin]

Posted by Vitalux (here)

Posted by Turcurulin (here)
The Apollo 17 astronauts that walked the lunar surface were Eugene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt. Ronald Evans was the astronaut to remain in lunar orbit during this mission.

Also, while it is clear that there have been faked moon-landings, a moving camera does not necessarily denote a faked mission. Cameras, and other instruments, can be controlled remotely from Earth. One can see remote-controlled camera footage from space-station videos, etc.

What sort of problems do you think would exist in trying to remotely control a video camera from 240 000 miles away?
Do you suppose that there would be any time delay between transmissions?
Think about that next time you watch a satellite news link between a news reporter and news anchorman on CNN when he is chatting from the opposite side of Earth which is less than 12 000 miles.

I can understand your enthusiasm to wish to believe the Moon landings were real, but if you really do some good investigation, you will just might break out of the deception. It is amazing to see how many keen minds can't.
Once you do, it makes the world actually make so much more sense because NASA is a total bull**** propaganda entity.
They are so convincing that they could sell an Eskimo a new fridge in winter.

Heyo! Methinks I detect some 'enthusiasm' in your post above. =) jk

You're right, Vitalux. There have been faked moon-landings and NASA is a farce.

However, Radio-waves travel at the speed of light. (Think of how a remote-controlled toy-car responds to it's remote - instantaneously.) The satellite feed on a news program (I don't watch TV, btw =) is more akin to downloading a movie - not so instantaneous.

And, in any case, our respective governments have better technology than do our news-stations - as we all know. Also, I meant to mention in my above post that these instruments can be remote-controlled from the Command Module that's orbiting the moon during the mission as well. So, distance really isn't the issue here.

I do not speak on the moon-landings with the pride of an American, but with the pride of a Human-being. I'm just as enamored by what the Russians, Chinese, and other nations have done in space,.. honestly.

Besides this, there is speculation that there are bases on the moon which, I believe, has validity. (This is probably not news to you, but, if so, just advanced search 'moon base' here on Avalon and/or on YouTube, if you're interested.)

Humans have been to the moon - no doubt. There have been faked moon-landings - no doubt. I do not believe all of the broadcasted moon-landings were faked, but am always willing to consider the evidence.

Peace and love,
T

[DeDukshyn]

"It blew off?!". -astronaut
"Yeah!" -control

... like in the wind? On the moon? ... lol. You can see why the astronaut didn't believe it for a second ...

One of my favorites is the photo of the rover still neatly packaged and wrapped up ready unveiling and its first mission! ... while there are already rover tracks existing on the surface in the picture ... okaaaay ...