Wakytweaky, I am fully cognizant of the concept that lj wheat was putting forward- the concept of 'silence of the mind' is something that has been around for eons and I ran into it as a kid through my *mother's* explorations. She couldn't do it either.Posted by Wakytweaky (here)
The silence that you are referring to in the above reply to ljwheat is all about the silencing of the mind and has nothing to do with actually being silence in relation to communication with other human beings...
It could be enlightening for you to read this so we all get to be on the same page about what it is that is discussed when we are talking about this silence.
My comments still stand. I do deep trance work in a way that I have developed my Self, which entails engaging in the otherrealms in interesting ways. I get the silence. It's a pass through point, one doesn't *stay* there or all creation and Being ceases. IN physical terms, the permanent experience of 'silent mind' is called catatonia and this doesn't go well. I know, I've nursed catatonic children. They all would have died without the external support of those with engaged minds. Anyone permanently in profound silent mind will also die, because "I need to eat" is a thought.
I really do get it. I just get that it's a pass through point, and when one comes out of it, NOT silence is the next bit. The NEXT bit is where all the space created by silent mind gets to express itself, because the irony of all this is, it's only ONE PART of the 'mind' that is silent in that space, the thin veneer of consciousness: other elements are buzzing like crazy and connecting in all sorts of brilliant ways with the *really* interesting realms that would be available *consciously* if individuals weren't so attached to their precious ideas about such things.
I'm not so attached to precious ideas. I live with a mind far more fluid that most I encounter, which frequently drives the others nuts. You might want to have a look at some of the things I've written regarding my experiences of multiple selves and sliding realms, so that *you* get an understanding of the individual you're writing to before assuming that I need elucidation on some point. I commented that I find the silence philosophy disinteresting- to then suggest I might want to be 'enlightened' about it (which is another loaded term in itself) is heteronomy: asking me would I care to engage in such a conversation is not.
This thread is a discussion regarding autonomy versus heteronomy, NOT yet another hijacking into a thread about 'silent mind'- I have noticed how often any thread that opens up new thought has the silent minders swooping in to stifle both the exploration AND the conversation. The continued existence of the Pub thread is due to my ability to rebut any philosophy of death fascination. Silent mind, taken to its ultimate expression of frequency, is a death of the creative expression and power: it is a WAY POINT, *NOT* a destination.
Those who know the Pub know this one makes both my fangs and horns gleam. If it is silent mind as a destination that you want to discuss, there is the spirituality thread to do it in and quite a few that would be happy to discuss it.