"George Kavassilas" - has finished his book

[ljwheat]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Spending that much time staring at one point in time, several scared consciousness imposing that sort of energy on a fixed point in time may tend to have that sort of effect. Possibly even a zero point effect but that is just speculation. One would change something, staring at something scared and unnerved would tend to do strange things to a person as well. A good way to get infiltrated and be shown whatever the infiltrator would like you to interpret.

One makes the assumption the earth will be changing when in fact it could very well be the observer who is changing. If one doesn't have tight emotional control when viewing, one is no longer the observer but the participant.

Just like in a court room, the defense or prosecutor will make a statement non relevant to the jury or witness, then the judge makes a decree, jury will disallow that statement and be stricken from the record.

RV is a stricked science, with many periodicals set in place so this dose not happen. And has no relevance to throw, un based opinions at,-- like a drive by shooting that has no target other than, I’m not buying into it, so I’ll shot at it.

Is there something that you know first hand and how you’ve arrived at this knowledge no one else seems to have, I’m sure the elite and all the rest of us would sit on bated hands waiting for this inside information.

Breaking windows in a well established building as RV and not being called on it. Give us your evidence or science on this bump in time space we all are approaching. Rolling one’s eye’s at something that doesn’t fit mainstream paradigm of normal is fishing with out a hook.

Your good at backing up your statements with empirical evidence and back ground in so many area’s this should be a piece of cake for you to explain this non event you see.

How dose RV work or not work? John XXX

[ROMANWKT]

I have watched him very carefully for a long time, there is a commitment by him which is all not truth, take it with a pinch of salt, easy.

Easy with it
roman

[ROMANWKT]

The one truth is a very good question with a broad range of understandings and conclusions.

So here goes, there is no such thing as truth, it cannot be, ones belief is not a truth, ones faith is not a truth, even thoughts are not truth, what one sees is not a truth, what one feels is not a truth.

The only thing that could be called the truth is the unchanging, something that never changes ever, that would be a truth of a true state, now think about the unchanging, what is there that never changes, in physical matter everything keep changing its state, therefore it cannot be a truth.

The only truth is ZERO state, a nothing, all else is added, a belief becomes a truth for somebody, its a belief, its not a truth. You can change your beliefs on a day to day basis and prove to yourself that what was true yesterday is not the truth today. Mind is not a truth, it a creator, therefore there cannot be a right or a wrong, good or bad, as its just a belief, and belief is not a truth. God is not a truth, one may be psychologically more stable in an emergency for instance by believing in a support by a God, but it not a truth, its a belief, and a belief in a God makes you manipulative, and its not a truth.

What you believed as a child has changed to what you know now and in what you believe now, its not a truth, it a belief.

Mind creates what you believe, what you have created with mind is not a truth, its a belief.

The hidden gift of humanity is belief, for whatever you believe in, you will create, but its not a truth, it a belief, a forever changing function of creation by mind, by your beliefs, but its not the truth it a belief.

All the opinions and all the knowledge are nothing more than here-say that is believed in, and mind creates it into reality, but its not a truth, its an accepted belief.

The system is designed to unify all of humanity’s beliefs for the system manipulation.

The system proposes that they are the holders of truth, they are in fact holders of your belief, which is not a truth, but we believe them, therefore we are bound to them by a belief, which is not the truth.

[ljwheat]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
I have watched him very carefully for a long time, there is a commitment by him which is all not truth, take it with a pinch of salt, easy.

Easy with it
roman

I’m truly surprised, you really don’t see that grain of salt landing on yourself by casting it. One liner’s are just like swords one must be careful not to fall on it when its in use.. This is the celibration of releasing a new book, --- not a roast. A lot of true color’s are really starting to shine there lights. Its hard to let go of old programming, under a bright light of the new. It might be he’s changing something we’ve always liked and want to hang onto. And that’s OK Too. “Sigh” John xxx

[ljwheat]

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
The one truth is a very good question with a broad range of understandings and conclusions.

So here goes, there is no such thing as truth, it cannot be, ones belief is not a truth, ones faith is not a truth, even thoughts are not truth, what one sees is not a truth, what one feels is not a truth.

The only thing that could be called the truth is the unchanging, something that never changes ever, that would be a truth of a true state, now think about the unchanging, what is there that never changes, in physical matter everything keep changing its state, therefore it cannot be a truth.

The only truth is ZERO state, a nothing, all else is added, a belief becomes a truth for somebody, its a belief, its not a truth. You can change your beliefs on a day to day basis and prove to yourself that what was true yesterday is not the truth today. Mind is not a truth, it a creator, therefore there cannot be a right or a wrong, good or bad, as its just a belief, and belief is not a truth. God is not a truth, one may be psychologically more stable in an emergency for instance by believing in a support by a God, but it not a truth, its a belief, and a belief in a God makes you manipulative, and its not a truth.

What you believed as a child has changed to what you know now and in what you believe now, its not a truth, it a belief.

Mind creates what you believe, what you have created with mind is not a truth, its a belief.

The hidden gift of humanity is belief, for whatever you believe in, you will create, but its not a truth, it a belief, a forever changing function of creation by mind, by your beliefs, but its not the truth it a belief.

All the opinions and all the knowledge are nothing more than here-say that is believed in, and mind creates it into reality, but its not a truth, its an accepted belief.

The system is designed to unify all of humanity’s beliefs for the system manipulation.

The system proposes that they are the holders of truth, they are in fact holders of your belief, which is not a truth, but we believe them, therefore we are bound to them by a belief, which is not the truth.

And so this is the grain of salt you were refering too. thanks I'll us it to season my thinking from no on. John xxx great programing tool. big mirror to see one's self in No? are you reading the book or will it be a taboo, in this old hat Synopsis.

[Delight]

Posted by ljwheat (here)

Posted by ROMANWKT (here)
The one truth is a very good question with a broad range of understandings and conclusions.

So here goes, there is no such thing as truth, it cannot be, ones belief is not a truth, ones faith is not a truth, even thoughts are not truth, what one sees is not a truth, what one feels is not a truth.

The only thing that could be called the truth is the unchanging, something that never changes ever, that would be a truth of a true state, now think about the unchanging, what is there that never changes, in physical matter everything keep changing its state, therefore it cannot be a truth.

The only truth is ZERO state, a nothing, all else is added, a belief becomes a truth for somebody, its a belief, its not a truth. You can change your beliefs on a day to day basis and prove to yourself that what was true yesterday is not the truth today. Mind is not a truth, it a creator, therefore there cannot be a right or a wrong, good or bad, as its just a belief, and belief is not a truth. God is not a truth, one may be psychologically more stable in an emergency for instance by believing in a support by a God, but it not a truth, its a belief, and a belief in a God makes you manipulative, and its not a truth.

What you believed as a child has changed to what you know now and in what you believe now, its not a truth, it a belief.

Mind creates what you believe, what you have created with mind is not a truth, its a belief.

The hidden gift of humanity is belief, for whatever you believe in, you will create, but its not a truth, it a belief, a forever changing function of creation by mind, by your beliefs, but its not the truth it a belief.

All the opinions and all the knowledge are nothing more than here-say that is believed in, and mind creates it into reality, but its not a truth, its an accepted belief.

The system is designed to unify all of humanity’s beliefs for the system manipulation.

The system proposes that they are the holders of truth, they are in fact holders of your belief, which is not a truth, but we believe them, therefore we are bound to them by a belief, which is not the truth.

And so this is the grain of salt you were refering too. thanks I'll us it to season my thinking from no on. John xxx great programing tool. big mirror to see one's self in No? are you reading the book or will it be a taboo, in this old hat Synopsis.

Hi John,
Could you explain what you mean by "old hat synopsis"? I thought that what ROMANWKT says actually may be te only real solid principle in this shared experience and as I read "old hat" that seems to make it "no longer wearable" because it "is out of fashion" or not really useable "now".

The way that we see arguments spring up among ourselves concerning POV seems based on wanting there to be "truth" at this level that we cannot agree on. When accepting an idea we create experience here based on the mind. The belief that we can each have a separate idea means we really can all be under an umbrella. To each it may look very different "here" but that is a freedom. We may turn to fashioning the art of what we experience?

As ROMANWKT says:

The system is designed to unify all of humanity’s beliefs for the system manipulation.

That sounds so on target. I have found in myself that all my "problems" with the world have stemmed from buying into the system insistence that there is some truth to find and enforce.

The insistence on some objective standard seemed sensible without the understanding that I am creating an image from the vast nothing and that the image will change as I change. So if I gain control (the only control) of my own projector, the vision changes.

Yet, really, this is not changing the real. The real (all that is, the zero point, whatever it is named) goes on being what it is at its neutral state...a field of informative energy that asks us to select the varying observable. There is also an observer who is not changing in that zero point. However to make a world in this Universal Lore is to create duality and contrast. It has serious different POV's.

I like George K who seems to be a wayshower of being an authentic experiencer. I appreciate the help from sharing that experience. He never asked me to believe him.

Even when we "judge" what he is is "up to", given that what we see is our own creation, he is not needing to take responsibility for what we make of his activity. What I mean by that is that if there is intentional attempt to persuade by a party of the first part, the party of the second part still can accept or refuse the offering. To me this exchange of information between parties gives us all the chance to cooperate with others views or diverge. It is all ONE yet individual and paradoxical in this experience.

There is some power of two or more agreeing on the same vision. But we are not obligated to choose one line of thought or another.

It always returns to this for me: we are responsible for what we create out of mind: we reap the sowing of agreements with previously created thought forms and of creating new thought forms. The fruits of experiencing the effect of beliefs we have held, agreements we have made and all is the gift and curse. The fact that none are "truth" and that they change is also a gift.

That is where I am looking to gain mastery: feeling deeper into what I really desire versus what I was asked to choose and choose that with focus and authority. I understand that my choices matter. By dissolving my allegiance and either saying yes or no to new agreements is how to create a common world that is shared. This is kind of the whole in one approach.

My preference is that all this common experience be one of shared joy from everyone acknowledging we have our own opportunity that isn't dependent on taking another's energy. Some challenges for me include the deeply ingrained belief in some objective truth from outside authority and the belief that for some to have, others have not. Just two i see clearly.

Thank you George for the adamant reminder that there is no outside authority, there is only personal feeling into what makes sense to us and we can change our minds. You might be tempted to call it one's "truth" but you have to keep it in quotations.

[9eagle9]

RV is learned mental ability, and like any other ability will and can be interpreted by one's emotional and mental filters. Like any other ability if one doesn't learn to manage it, it will manage you. Or someone/thing will mange it for you.

Abilities also tend to be a bit personal too, so there's no strict rigid protocol but typically speaking even if you are not viewing and you are imposing your consciousness on ...anything...you will alter a little. If you do it a lot...you'll alter it alot.

[turiya]

What GK says with regards to this supposed "Disclosure Project" rings true for me, especially regarding that which is being put out by the recent group of characters making up the Drake, Dragon Lady & Cobra tag team...

"There is a whole menagerie of ET races that have been interacting with this planet from the get-go. And there has never been a time on this planet when there has not be communication going on with extraterrestrial life. Now, I make that statement because also you have the concept of 'there is about to be a "Disclosure Project", & humanity is just about to be revealed into this new found knowledge of extraterrestrial life. And that this is something happening for the first time....' and that's just A BIG JOKE really! Its a Big Joke!
If people can just look at the bigger picture, then all these little dramas and scenarios that get fed into the public arena become apparent for what they are. Cuz they keep playing with us mentally. They keep playing with us emotionally... and its a constant game. Its mental and emotional abuse over a period of time... into the human psyche. And its about time people are held accountable." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3loKx...=relmfu#t=444s

Full video:

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3loKxz_bm5I

[danceblackcatdance]

The only constant in life is change There has to be a first time for everything

Can't think of anymore clichés, but I bet Neanderthals thought they'd live in caves forever too

[Dennis Jonathan]

This is all so trivial.

Let's focus on the election, the Sandusky trial, and what Obama had for breakfast.

Kidding aside, I'm looking forward to this read.

Regardless of when or if GK's vision of the future comes to pass, he is always kind, genuine, and very interesting.

I've found that for me, sometimes just expanding my outlook to possibilities is a healthy exercise for internal growth.

[9eagle9]

George has got a lot of interesting stuff going on there that I've observed by experience and by experience I will comment on it as I have experienced it. Because someone has written a book of 'thing's that is often times spot on doesn't mean he's the central authority and I have to defer my own to his...he says this by his own admission.

[Dennis Jonathan]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
George has got a lot of interesting stuff going on there that I've observed by experience and by experience I will comment on it as I have experienced it. Because someone has written a book of 'thing's that is often times spot on doesn't mean he's the central authority and I have to defer my own to his...he says this by his own admission.

Couldn't have said it better.

Spot on

[lightwalker]

I am 1/3 way through his book. He has put what I have gleaned from other sources over the years, into this writing. It is his story. It is most compelling. It is powerful. It is self-empowering for me and if you are in any way drawn to George I encourage you to read his story and make your own decision as to what to do with this info.

As one of my favorite "entities" once said "We are Masters of Limitation", and George tells the story of how we did this. I am grateful for his contribution to the awakening of Humanity.

lightwalker

[ljwheat]

¾ of the way threw GK’s E-book, I am absolutely AW struck. At the depth this writing has taken me into remembering points that I personally had forgotten all about, -- that had lain dormant for so long. The magnitude and the severity of the deception is totally breath taking in scope, I have only three words to pass on at this time, as I look up from these pages of “LORE“. And those three words ? ---” no time left.” I would say also that is if you know any bible story’s--- the one with the 10 wise maidens and the 10 foolish at midnight would fit very nicely into how I feel IMO-- in the importance of this total message George is sharing. This book has almost silenced the white noise in my head from the matrix, now that I know were its being sent to me from and why. Great Read, and a must read IMO. John

[Kimberley]

Hey if you are into George plz check out this thread too...


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...hia-Kavassilas

[Kimberley]

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Here is the link to the downloadable/audio version of the interview with George & Cynthia Kavassilas that I aired and was archived Tuesday July 3:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/beloven...ilas-interview

And here is the youtube link to the video version:

http://youtu.be/kaNOUmoE3vs

Much love to us all!!

[ljwheat]

Kimberly WOW, thank you very much, I’ve finished the E-Book totally, totally,--- the time and effort, those who do not want there idea’s or programming shaken or not broken will want to continue in shooting this man down, or stay away completely, getting near this kind of radiation of the heart will decently affect your eventual out come. For all those into self empowerment and uplifting one’s self out of paradigms and programming. Then jump in its all here in his e-book and this one of many interviews with a man coming from the heart and soul of his being. Great job Kimberly you Rock Girl. Much love. John xxx

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaNOUmoE3vs

[Delight]

Posted by ljwheat (here)
Kimberly WOW, thank you very much, I’ve finished the E-Book totally, totally,--- the time and effort, those who do not want there idea’s or programming shaken or not broken will want to continue in shooting this man down, or stay away completely, getting near this kind of radiation of the heart will decently affect your eventual out come. For all those into self empowerment and uplifting one’s self out of paradigms and programming. Then jump in its all here in his e-book and this one of many interviews with a man coming from the heart and soul of his being. Great job Kimberly you Rock Girl. Much love. John xxx

This was a great interview and uncovered more territory. I liked the way you didn't have GK start from scratch again. I liked the questions and that you elicited them from all of us.
And I still really like what George says. Also, I really like that the interview started off honoring that everything we believe must be ready to change. It is so clear we are better off when we allow ourselves to change our minds about what we used to think. Thank You very much. Maggie

[wavydome]

Posted by ljwheat (here)
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Its just a destination. ---- All roads lead to Rome, this one George built is all this thread is about.---- Nothing more. How you get to Rome is still in own choosing. - I prefer not to walk.---- John xxx

In my strange fortune, i happened to grow up in the ruins of Rome literally... as an expat kid, mom got a job with FAO of UN, dad was trying to be a WWII whistle blower, no luck there.... At least i made it outa there.

I just now tried to buy that book but my meager bank account has been blocked a number of times this year... Will have to wait til monday.


I got half way through Kerry's interview above and really appreciate it.

It's been suggested in other ways...

My way of appreciation of this and countless other things, is by way of metaphor.

It is not about belief, rather, at most it is about comparing ratios of countless probabilities. Mulling over them throughout my days.

Time now to get my 'workout' for the day. Nice sunny, balmy and sweaty physical labor. Building my reality. Thanks all for comments, which i need to read more of, later.

~ωav~

[wavydome]

Hello dear thread readers:

First let me thank John xxx for bringing this Kavassilas-update to view. Are all here still gathering their breath to carry on with a discussion? It had seemed that way. I got through the book and all Youtubes, except turiyas. (Hard to make these mobile). Thanks everyone.

The book is so wide ranging and at the same time, so deep-diving-- It seems to question our internal 'matrix' of our deep self reality. I kind of like diving. Humans are so stuck in sequential brain circuits. Sort of having to live through one sequence at one time. Then get spaced out with all the little chores of living, washing the feet etc....

Indeed, it must be hard for people to struggle with this idea: To question one's inner core or not to question this inner core. Is that the question? These organs, the physical pineal gland and this sort of optional 'software' called kundalini. One's inner "brain reality, how is it questioned? I've questioned such questions throughout my life. So it feels natural. My kundalini experience was definitely questionable, as to what was going on. As to what it really was. (Mine was not focussed so-sexually, as so often the tantric kundalini seems to be promoted. The ultimate sexual transcendence. Or is it elitist trance dance? Or like a status symbol. Are you experienced?????? Ah geeeee )

In the same breath, i find a great deal of the lore or primordial-historic content fairly close to presentations of John Lamb Lash... Especially the similarities regarding Sophia~&~Earth~Mother. This aspect seems key, as to the origin of human kind. Although Kavassilas does not mention the Gnostics, (no?) I much prefer this lore stuff as compared with the alt-matrix i studied at age 18: LRon Hubburd's Scientology. I'll skip over the other things.

Better that i not write too much in one post. It almost defies forum etiquette, going on and on and on. Though i do enjoy hearing some of the longish posts. (If only i could find an easier way to format them in mp3 for mobile listening.... Uhh, without all the forum skin code, read out word for word-- The text that one never reads in each thread, each dot and tittle)... I love to mix dialogs with my menial physical labor (without code subscripts intact). Almost like the slave teams and their spiritual songs. Now there is a funny thing. Humans who need a physical work out, in order to feel OK. Hubbard once said that (male) human bodies were designed for pick and shovel work. Ha, ha. At the same time though, i need a dialog with other other humans to see how much can be agreed. Heh. See what we can see. Anyone?