Alien Interrogation Video

[jimmer]

Posted by Limor (here)
No video will ever be sufficient to be used as evidence, no photographic material, no testimony even if it is given first hand by miltary personals will have the ability to 'convince' the unconvinced that there are other beings besides human beings, and they are present here on earth at this time. nothing to do with a hoax. people are risking their lives by exposing their experiences or risking humaliation. I guess only a face to face encounter will change one skeptic's mind. skepticism and logic are essential tools and are healthy and necessary, but a total disqualification of enormouse evidence by people from all walks of life is simply not smart.

those who believe the 'alien interrogation video' to be phony has little to do with
the bigger 'are we alone' question. dissent on this video topic does not disqualify the larger question.
this specific video is a contrivance. that's it.

[WhiteFeather]

Posted by Limor (here)
No video will ever be sufficient to be used as evidence, no photographic material, no testimony even if it is given first hand by miltary personals will have the ability to 'convince' the unconvinced that there are other beings besides human beings, and they are present here on earth at this time. nothing to do with a hoax. people are risking their lives by exposing their experiences or risking humaliation. I guess only a face to face encounter will change one skeptic's mind. skepticism and logic are essential tools and are healthy and necessary, but a total disqualification of enormouse evidence by people from all walks of life is simply not smart.

Well put Limor. Totally agree with your written words here.

[000]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Roswell, 2012, and the Great Escape Plan:
http://golden-rule.org/2012/04/24/ro...ws-the-whistle

I just finished watching this. It certainly corroborates a lot of other witnesses' and whistleblowers' testimonies regarding Roswell.

Some interesting thoughts were catalyzed from watching this video. Although the information was not really anything new, hearing it this time around and from this particular individual brought about a stream of thoughts in me.

Here are the sprigs of wheat which I have let my mind chew on a little:

[1] The deep black military, bloodline families, etc. were naive and gullible in assuming that what the Roswell beings/AIs (and subsequent encounters with similar beings/AIs) were telling them was the absolute truth.

Just because a being says something does not mean it is what is actually on that being's agenda and a thoroughly advanced civilization would of course be expertly patient and wise in knowing precisely what to communicate and how it would play out with regards to chains of Cause and Effect.

[2] Why would a sufficiently advanced civilization in one of an infinity of parallel timelines wish to destroy the bulk of 'we the people' rather than the 'elites'? It seems logical to me to consider that an advanced civilization, in an attempt to repair a timeline/botched civilization (one that has been 'infected' so to speak), would not destroy the innocents but rather the non-innocents (the infection).

Perhaps the beings/AIs deliberately gave false information about 'future events' to those they were communicating with in an effort to guide them to leave Earth alone by literally leaving it (perhaps 'dealing with them' when they have all left). What better way than to get the elites to leave Earth than to play upon their enormous capacity for fear and negativity.

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Maybe, just maybe, the advanced technology given to the military industrial complex was a masterfully planned carrot-on-a-stick, where in combination with such gloomy information given them by beings which they somehow fell into trusting (through being given technology) the word of these beings (although they may have deliberately told untruths).

Now, of course, these are merely my own thoughts. But I felt compelled to share them (I have not seen them elsewhere to date), and Cause/Effect being what it is, well... the flow changes ever so slightly with every drop injected into it.

Certainly truth is much stranger than fiction and I do feel that, in that being so, there is most certainly a high probability of multiple twists to this strange river we are all in that we may not expect at first blush.

[spuddie]

I saw the 'Interrogation' video a couple of years ago. I wasn't convinced of its authenticity then; I'm not now. Especially after hearing the special effects guys' expert opinions.

Whilst it does leave a lot to be desired, I'm somewhat convinced by this video; there's just something about the little fella's blinking movements that rings true:

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTfPSsw88P0

[jimmer]

"I saw the video a couple of years ago. I wasn't convinced of its authenticity then; I'm not now. Especially after hearing the special effects guys' expert opinions.

Whilst it does leave a lot to be desired, I'm somewhat convinced by this video; there's just something about the little fella's blinking movements that rings true:"


this one is a whole different kettle of fish.
either an outstanding work of art or the real thing.
when it first was released, the audio track of an off speed projector
called fowl to some. nonetheless, impressive.

[WhiteFeather]

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVyvDvjXFmA

[cloud9]

Posted by TheGoldenRule1 (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Strat (here)
The guy who provided the tape ('Victor') was interviewed, again, in '08. Speaking frankly, I find him hard to believe because
1 money was involved
2 he doesn't say anything significant
3 he has a bad temper

I don't know the man personally, so I very well may be wrong. These are just my thoughts regarding the information given. Oh, and here's the updated interview video. It's two parts at about 15 minutes total:

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEFJ_C-wdlw

I watched both parts. A lot of concentration is needed as his voice is so heavily disguised.

My own observations:

1) Chilling and authentic.

2) He's very bitter: he risked his life (and evidently his health) -- and felt that nothing came of what he took so much courage to do.

3) I think there is highly significant information in there that needs further study. Viz:

4) He dismissed the idea of being 2012 as a "Doomsday Year" (he said the Mayans were not quite the mathematicians they believed they were) -- but hinted pointedly that the documentary makers should not bother to plan a 20th anniversary edition. (I'm interpreting that to mean that Victor anticipates, or is aware of, some critical event scheduled to occur before 2017.)

5) In answer to questions about what Rumsfeld knew, he said that he was focused on saving himself -- by leaving the planet. (This may not be as crazy as it at first sounds. Watch this interesting and potentially important testimony to support this, linked below. (Ignore the poor articulacy of "Dutch", the interviewee -- and listen carefully to the key components of the small amount of what he says he knows.)

Roswell, 2012, and the Great Escape Plan:
http://golden-rule.org/2012/04/24/ro...ws-the-whistle

Bill,

I just recently became a provisional member here and I was the one who conducted the interview you cite at the end. Thank you for the attention, as I believe he is being honest about his experiences in the Army. He also has a second interview, where he goes into further detail regarding the things he actually witnessed (Plasma Excavation drills, Prismic UFOs, and anti-gravity craft).

I also have been involved with the disclosure project but, as of yet no formal plans have been made.

Dear friend:

I watched the first interview and then I started with the second one and I want to say, just in case you haven't notice it yet that in the first seconds of the second interview when "Dutch" leans to the right to pick his coffee up, his face is very visible for one or two seconds but just enough to identify him. If this is important, please fix the video and protect the man.
Thank you.

[Believe]

Could be real, could be fake. They're going to have to declassify the information soon enough. Even if it's real, so what? Its not the first one, and i bet it's not the last. probably fake though, because they would go to great lengths to hide this from the public view. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I'm simply not sure if it is real or fake. The "alien" has a hit of yellow. Usually, from what I've read and know is that they are usually grey/green. They are light green/blue/grey ones. I've never heard of a yellowish one. I don't know people, you decide.

[deridan]

000 , so well articulated!
(the greatest thing that can count this as foul is the timeline, one has already had strategic strictures in place since roswell and the decade after, ...and one would worry to interrogate a crashed alien by mid-rung military personnel in 1995 wwhhyy?)

like that bill counts tolec foul, even his radio voice cries: 'all my training has been in the art of speech making, now let me recite this speech from the Andr. council'

Burgermeister: covers a very critical area,... vaccinations. (remember that she almost embarrassed Kerry with hysteria on radio. plus that the Human Genome sequence is based on her genomic code... why would that make a difference...{unless junk dna becomes important or is very crucial and individual, but crucial in the operation of we don't know what.yet}...also, that the regular medical pyrimid, post doc medical researchers...create diseases..... oh how wishful....if only they could be so good in the first place....[degrees of good and evil should only be counted as one thing: power...and i'm afraid knowledge is the gatekeeper...and His been sleeping boredly])

[Whiskey_Mystic]

I'm not an expert, but I do have some experience with special effects, having worked with Scott Squires. The movements and range of motion of the alien in the interrogation video are consistent with a hand puppet, in my opinion.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Posted by spuddie (here)
I saw the 'Interrogation' video a couple of years ago. I wasn't convinced of its authenticity then; I'm not now. Especially after hearing the special effects guys' expert opinions.

Whilst it does leave a lot to be desired, I'm somewhat convinced by this video; there's just something about the little fella's blinking movements that rings true:

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTfPSsw88P0

I had not seen this before. Thank you. Whilst there is nothing here that cannot be created on my home computer by a skilled technician, there is also nothing that jumps out as obvious fakery. The only thing that doesn't smell right is the shortness of the video clips, though I can think of few reasons that would explain that.

Unfortunately, we have reached a point in our technology where there is no such thing as video proof.

[Huma]

This video caused me 5 years of a world of hurt in every possible way, it was a nightmare, and it wrecked my young adult life (I am 27 as of this writing, and the time in question began when i was 20), and for more times then I care to count, I really felt my life was in jeopardy. I saw it many years ago, and I have seen both videos. In the process of investigating it, I had a lot of **** come my way, and quite a bit from someone who initially claimed to know about it in great detail, and eventually admitted he knew nothing but caused me a lot of grief over the years.

This was someone who did some bizarre stuff, and also essentially took advantage of me as well. At times I felt this individual was just using me for money and amusement, and then they would do something that was hard to deny, and made me second guess myself. Anyway, needless to say the source of my grievance was this video....and so I had looked into it a great deal. It is my conclusion that this indeed was a "hoax", a solid one no doubt, but really a hoax. The trauma I went through because of this peice of footage is a surreal story in and of itself, and one I hope to share with Bill sometime if I am able . It's certainly a worthwhile cautionary tale...

[sdv]

How many on this forum think (note that I say think and not believe) that the military/government would secretly interrogate aliens in this way?

How many on this forum think that it is wrong to subject an alien to such suffering?

If you say yes to the first question, then the video is real because the conditions exist for it to be possible. If you say yes to the second question then you cannot ignore those conditions.

In my convoluted way I am trying to say that the conditions exist for this to be real and that is the real issue.

[spiritguide]

The statement in the thread about DNI stamps on checks or stubs does not correlate to the Office of Naval Intelligence, as the acronym for this agency is ONI not DNI. This coming from a veteran who was an operative for the agency at the period of time stated. ????????? questions this point of info! IMHO

[Paul]

Posted by spiritguide (here)
The statement in the thread about DNI stamps on checks or stubs does not correlate to the Office of Naval Intelligence, as the acronym for this agency is ONI not DNI. This coming from a veteran who was an operative for the agency at the period of time stated. ????????? questions this point of info! IMHO

DNI could stand for the "Director of Naval Intelligence."

[Limor]

Posted by sdv (here)
How many on this forum think (note that I say think and not believe) that the military/government would secretly interrogate aliens in this way?

How many on this forum think that it is wrong to subject an alien to such suffering?

If you say yes to the first question, then the video is real because the conditions exist for it to be possible. If you say yes to the second question then you cannot ignore those conditions.

In my convoluted way I am trying to say that the conditions exist for this to be real and that is the real issue.

Thanks sdv, nicely said. one of the most unforgetable Camelot moments is when Cliford Stone expresses his empathy to the captured extraterrestrial he worked with while he was serving as an interface during his millitary service. he said something like - 'Animals have rights, aliens have none.'
yes to both questions

[spiritguide]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by spiritguide (here)
The statement in the thread about DNI stamps on checks or stubs does not correlate to the Office of Naval Intelligence, as the acronym for this agency is ONI not DNI. This coming from a veteran who was an operative for the agency at the period of time stated. ????????? questions this point of info! IMHO

DNI could stand for the "Director of Naval Intelligence."

Checks are not stamped with acronyms .... Just U.S. Navy, if it was the director it would be DIRONI, if it was a department it would be DEPONI IMO

[13th Warrior]

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)

Posted by spuddie (here)
I saw the 'Interrogation' video a couple of years ago. I wasn't convinced of its authenticity then; I'm not now. Especially after hearing the special effects guys' expert opinions.

Whilst it does leave a lot to be desired, I'm somewhat convinced by this video; there's just something about the little fella's blinking movements that rings true:

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTfPSsw88P0

I had not seen this before. Thank you. Whilst there is nothing here that cannot be created on my home computer by a skilled technician, there is also nothing that jumps out as obvious fakery. The only thing that doesn't smell right is the shortness of the video clips, though I can think of few reasons that would explain that.

Unfortunately, we have reached a point in our technology where there is no such thing as video proof.

Also noteworthy; access to the technology to do so has only been available to the general public fairly recently...

[percival tyro]

It was very moving. As usual the lighting for some reason was angled not to show anything much beyond the ear line or below the chin.

[Peace of Mind]

Posted by percival tyro (here)
It was very moving. As usual the lighting for some reason was angled not to show anything much beyond the ear line or below the chin.

Which should be sounding off many alarms, imo. This is a clear distraction, just look at what it’s doing, it's playing on your emotions and keeping you intuned. If this was real it would have been taken off Youtube by now. The only reason why it’s still up is because it is indeed fake………..or perhaps they are using it to ready the public for the fake invasion. Regardless of the matter, there are clearly more important matters that need your attention. If the vid is real or not…there is absolutely nothing we can do about it, or is there?

If there is important info in this field that needs to be spread to the public… I (and many others) will appreciate it if the info is spread with some validity attached to it. Otherwise it will be taking myself (and others) from what needs to be done.

To be clear....I have the upmost respect for true whistleblowers, those who actually put their lives on the line for others by actually putting out undeniable evidence. I don’t have the time or respect for those claiming to have life changing information (for a fee) and offers no real proof. Anybody can go online and make up a story about aliens (ANYBODY!!!). Without proof you are a distracter/con/attention seeker/trouble maker/ fear monger/ etc... What's to gain?

We all are putting ourselves in danger everyday by just simply stepping out of the house. So believing in the unproving will grant you more problems then you bargain for. I put my life on the line for others everyday by challenging those that oppress all of us….yet I don’t mention it in my post or in an interview video. We all are going to die sooner or later…how you go out should be the upmost importance to you. Will you go out as a coward running and hiding from other cowards while living amongst cowards and the crooked…or will you leave in dignity and honor by making honest attempts at bringing down this evil that is crushing us all?

Again, I doubt this vid to be real for many reasons, plus I work in the field of TV, radio, entertainment…and seen how puppeteering works first hand.

I just think people just want to believe so much that they cast away their rationale, which means they'll often go for anything relevant to their beliefs no matter how many red flags are waving right in front of their faces. If you want to believe in this, it’s cool by me. But I suggest you consider removing all doubts before going all in with little to nothing to grasp and hold on to. You’ll go nowhere (and fast) without some form of stability, we either stand for something or fall for anything…

Peace