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    Default Matt Simmons assassinated?

    Matt Simmons had to have been assassinated. It's too convenient for him to just simply "drown" in a hot tub in his home by himself, WAY too convenient.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-0...ies-at-67.html


    Here is a 4-part series of You Tube vids that goes to show that Matt Simmons was right about a second well being out there.

    http://www.rense.com/general91/sid.htm

    Save these vids to your computer -- you never know if they'd disappear, ya know.

    Part 1

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=bPhPvQot4o8


    Part 2

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=jbry0D2RFbQ


    Part 3

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=IDO4KNm1GPM


    Part 4

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=fobsqXyz1rQ
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    Default Re: Matt Simmons assassinated?

    Quote Posted by Mozart (here)
    [Attn: Mods... can you kindly move this post into the Oil Gusher thread? Thank you.]

    Matt Simmons had to have been assassinated. It's too convenient for him to just simply "drown" in a hot tub in his home by himself, WAY too convenient!

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-0...ies-at-67.html


    Here is a 4-part series of You Tube vids that goes to show that Matt Simmons was right about a second well being out there.

    http://www.rense.com/general91/sid.htm

    Save these vids to your computer -- you never know if they'd disappear, ya know.

    Part 1

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=bPhPvQot4o8


    Part 2

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=jbry0D2RFbQ


    Part 3

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=IDO4KNm1GPM


    Part 4

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=fobsqXyz1rQ
    Calm down Mozart!

    Be calm and think for a moment...even if what you assume is true..hysteria can't help matters. I've not seen this news thread yet as I was just off to my bed. There is nothing that you can do right now..so sit. and try to be rational...is this true or just a rumour?
    Rimbaud

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    OOPS!...Anther thread that I should have steered clear of I suspect

    Rimbaud

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    Default Re: Matt Simmons assassinated?

    Hello, I think I posted on a thread similar to this earlier today.

    It is quite strange that Mr. Simmons died after speaking out against BP and the oil spill. When I first heard this story today, I checked several news sources to confirm it's validity. It's true that he died, but what I found odd is the fact that half of the sources claimed he drown, while the other half claimed he died of a heart attack. Now, I'm not sure which is correct, but it certainly adds to the mystery.

    I personally have doubts on the "second well theory," but I respect the courage Simmons had to speak his mind. I hope he wasn't assassinated and "made an example of."

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    Quote Posted by The_Cipher_Replied (here)

    I personally have doubts on the "second well theory," but I respect the courage Simmons had to speak his mind. I hope he wasn't assassinated and "made an example of."

    The second well is not a theory AT ALL. It's cold, hard fact. Watch those vids.


    Or watch this condensed version:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Oaf99...layer_embedded


    The TWO wells are cold, hard facts.


    Simmons had been yelling a lot about the two wells. The master manipulators -- BP and the US "government" -- has strung all of us along about ONE well... what about the other well? Wouldn't those master manipulators want us, the gullible public, to focus on one, singular well? Of course they do.


    Who benefits from a convenient death of Matt Simmons? It's obvious. The mere fact that half of the "news" outlets say "heart attack" and the other half says "drowning" itself ought to be a red flag about this event that is almost surely a murder/assassination.


    Cui bono? Always think in those terms.

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    Default Re: Matt Simmons assassinated?

    this news makes matt simmons information way more credible as kerry would no doubt support.. people were too quick to jump to conclusions about quite a few things, now anything bill wrote regarding the disinfo on the oil drum forum and other sources may need to be looked at again. i didnt trust the oil drum or any other industry lovies particularly.. be intersting to see what bill and kerry ahve to say about this recent murder.

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    Default Re: Matt Simmons assassinated?

    Quote Posted by Mozart (here)
    The second well is not a theory AT ALL. It's cold, hard fact. Watch those vids. The TWO wells are cold, hard facts.

    Who benefits from a convenient death of Matt Simmons? It's obvious. The mere fact that half of the "news" outlets say "heart attack" and the other half says "drowning" itself ought to be a red flag about this event that is almost surely a murder/assassination.

    Cui bono? Always think in those terms.
    The video did not make the case the two wells were A FACT and the presenter admitted as much himself. He did make a very good case there should be 2 wells with very good evidence and like he said this should be investigated. Why someone has not taken a submersible down there and had a look makes me believe there is credibility to the story, because that would surely solve the mystery...


    Quote Posted by The_Cipher_Replied (here)

    It is quite strange that Mr. Simmons died after speaking out against BP and the oil spill. When I first heard this story today, I checked several news sources to confirm it's validity. It's true that he died, but what I found odd is the fact that half of the sources claimed he drown, while the other half claimed he died of a heart attack. Now, I'm not sure which is correct, but it certainly adds to the mystery.
    An autopsy would certainly clear that up. It could have been both. Although those in the business of silencing whistle blowers could cover their tracks. I wonder if we will ever know? The sudden and mysterious death of a star witness and advocate for the truth absolutely lends credibility to his information.

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    Quote Posted by PINEAL-PILOT-IN MERKABAH (here)
    this news makes matt simmons information way more credible as kerry would no doubt support.. people were too quick to jump to conclusions about quite a few things, now anything bill wrote regarding the disinfo on the oil drum forum and other sources may need to be looked at again. i didnt trust the oil drum or any other industry lovies particularly.. be intersting to see what bill and kerry ahve to say about this recent murder.
    Hi Folks - I was shocked to hear the news.

    Who knows what happened. He seems to have had a heart attack, and then that caused his drowning in his hot tub.

    Matt Simmons is definitely dead, though, I'm very sorry to say. I'm sorry to say that because while I never had any contact with him personally, this is a loss and a shock for anyone who was close to him.

    If he was murdered, and this is not a coincidence, he never deserved that - whatever the game was. And there may be several possible things going on here.

    First, just as a technical reality it's important to acknowledge that there are hand-held devices which can induce a heart attack in anyone from a range of about 20-30 feet. Tom Bearden has written about them here...

    http://www.cheniere.org/articles/Coi...attery%202.doc

    ...and in various other articles in the last ten years.

    Just last week - entirely by coincidence - I was discussing this technology with an insider of considerable knowledge. He told me that assassins didn't need to do that any more... they can just press a button on a screen from thousands of miles away. I believed him.

    The Simmons case is strange - bless his soul - because in my opinion he was almost certainly totally wrong in a lot of what he was saying, but he nevertheless may have become an embarrassment or an irritant in some way.

    Another interpretation of the chess game is that they may have killed him as a FURTHER distraction. There was a large amount of induced craziness about the GOM situation all over the internet. It suggests that the real questions, the real issues, were being masked and attention was being diverted.

    If Simmons was murdered, it might have been to ensure that all the wild theories continued, as many who have been following what Simmons has been claiming out there will assume that this means that Simmons was correct and that there's a MASSIVE cover-up going on and that the oil is still gushing out of somewhere else. (It clearly is not!)

    Another potential reason for the hit - if it was one - might be simply as a random reminder (the controllers are capable of this) to underline to people like you and me that they can still delete anyone, for any reason - or no reason - any time they want to.

    One does not have to be Columbo to suspect that there might have been several reasons, any or all of which may apply, why Simmons might be selected as a target. This does not logically mean that his claims must have been correct.

    So the statement..

    Quote this news makes matt simmons information way more credible
    ...may not necessarily apply. There are psy-ops within psy-ops.

    And also: one also has to look at the information itself.

    I stand by my own analysis of what he has said. There's no "second open well" - as far as I can see. If so, where's the oil?

    Here are two interesting obituary articles, published yesterday. They are worth reading:

    http://energytribune.com/articles.cf...ons-Dead-at-67

    http://blogs.forbes.com/christopherh...echannelforbes


    Anyone who thinks the information on The Oil Drum is disinfo or misleading needs to show it. Of course there likely to be operatives on every forum. The agencies wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't plant a few people everywhere - and it's so easy to do.

    But one still has to uncover the false information, if one thinks this is the case. Anyone who thinks the entire Oil Drum forum is some kind of false PR for the establishment should spend some time reading (and understanding) the many thousands of words written by quite a lot of smart and independent people.

    Here's where to start - the most recent threads are at the top of this list. If you start now and check all the links to technical papers published, you'll be finished maybe by the weekend!

    This thread in particular, entitled A Critical Examination of Matt Simmons’ Claims on the Deepwater Spill, is really worth reading:

    http://theoildrum.com/node/6789

    Here's a partial list:

    http://theoildrum.com/node/6832
    http://theoildrum.com/node/6827
    http://theoildrum.com/node/6824
    http://theoildrum.com/node/6820
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    As always Bill you present a very good argument, but Matt's death highly suspicious...why is the question. Although ever since I heard about the capping it's felt like we're being lie to again, about what and why I don't know for sure. I've been waiting for signs of oil and it appears Dahl Jamahl has uncovered it.

    He's done some excellent investigative reporting about what's going on and says that fishermen are reporting more oil than ever coming in, that BP and the Coast Guard are spraying Corexit at night to "sink" the oil, that huge fish kills are happening and there are massive dead zones developing. Large crabs are found alive with oil all over inside their shells and all kinds of stuff we're not hearing about because the NEWS IS DEAD. Very few people are doing investigative reporting or asking the tough questions, they all rely on the AP, Rueters or simply believe what they're told and report it.

    Excerpts from a couple of the articles:

    "...supposedly BP had stopped using the dispersants, “But we have fishermen in the VOO program taking pictures of them using it, and people still getting sick from exposure. They are hiring companies to come in and use dispersant at night. You see the oil in the day, and then next morning it’s gone. The government isn’t pushing to have this stopped even though they know this is going on. They are doing it because of money, and our economy.”

    Birren also told Truthout that fishermen she knows who are speaking out against BP dispersant practices “are getting death threats and notes on their cars saying you better watch out, because there are people above us who want to keep this quiet. But I know entire families who are sick because of the dispersants.”

    Birren does not believe the crisis is over, and believes the Gulf and Inland waters have been “prematurely re-opened to fishing.”

    ~~~

    "The lives of Gulf coast fishermen and residents are being destroyed. Scientists, environmentalists, and toxicologists are describing the Gulf of Mexico as a growing dead zone, a kill zone, and an energy sacrifice zone. As you read this, oil is everywhere around southeastern Louisiana, and continually washing ashore in Alabama and Mississippi."

    We are being lied to...so what the H*** is really going on? After reading reports from these fishermen it doesn't sound like the oil has stopped flowing, not when they're saying they're seeing more oil than ever.
    http://dahrjamailiraq.com/
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    Quote Posted by ascendingstarseed (here)
    We are being lied to...so what the H*** is really going on? After reading reports from these fishermen it doesn't sound like the oil has stopped flowing, not when they're saying they're seeing more oil than ever.
    http://dahrjamailiraq.com/
    From Mozart's video in post#5 I take it this is a possibility. According to the video, Well B is the one that blew out and has now supposedly been capped, yet the coordinates on the video of this newly capped well are actually from Well A, which never blew out in the first place. So we still don't know if Well B has been capped yet, although if it has why are they hoaxing us with footage from the pristine Well A?
    It's not that there were two leaking wells and one has been capped, it's just, according to this video, they haven't given proof yet that Well B is capped at all.

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    Default Re: Matt Simmons assassinated?

    Hi Bill,
    Well, I most definately question his untimely death. My reasoning falls on Matt's logic concerning the cost of cleaning up the BP mess and his outlook on why BP would have gone (or maybe should have gone) belly up.

    Also, it's amazing how the oil has just disappeared making it safe to shrimp again. This most certainly leaves the ethically questionable feasibility of shrimping square on the shoulders of the shrimpers. Share the fault, as it were.
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    i think that you were right first time bill and then you were suckered by the insiders on the oil drum forum. more info is coming to light that what we thought at first is correct and your re evaluation and subsequent posting of the " oh its alright now , no more leaking oil" story needs looking at again.matt simmons was probably closer to the truth than the "still in the pay of the oil company workers" on the oil drum.

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    bump... for all the "oil spill " is over now brigade.

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    Quote Posted by PINEAL-PILOT-IN MERKABAH (here)
    bump... for all the "oil spill " is over now brigade.
    uh-oh -- there's a lot of marshmallow-y love, light, & laughter going on here on PA now -- a thread about death & destruction courtesy of the NWO might not go down so well [i am waiting for my net connection to be disconnected, any minute now -- i had to argue w/the megacorp rep to agree to cut off service -- so if i'm out of line, or out of sync w/your intentions, PinealPilot, pls forgive -- i'll soon be gone]

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    well good luck wynderer i hope you make it through th etuff times.. i hardly post on here or read it as it has become indeed a love light marshmellowy fest with out regard to observing pertinent events and looking at hard facts. im all for positiviety but not at the expense of whats going on in the world outside..

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    A known birth time for Matt Simmons might clarify what caused his death.

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