COBRA - Uranus square Pluto & Archons Activity - Monday, June 25, 2012

[Anchor]

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by Anchor (here)
> "who am I to say what is right or wrong"

You are you, and you are to say whatever you feel needs to be said.

Interesting that you chose that statement to stand on its own when it was intended to modify the fact that everything that is likely to go into a decision like sending souls to the galactic center are unknown to me. I do my best not to jump to conclusions unless the better part of the whole picture is available for preview. With this in mind, and based on what little was mentioned by COBRA with regard to the decision making process, there is too little information to come to any conclusion about what was allegedly decided upon. This was the basis for my following statement:

Posted by StarDust (here)
However, if such decisions are reached by higher authorities, then who am I to say what is right or wrong considering that there is little chance of knowing all the facts that have likely gone into this decision when examining it from the 'outside', within this plane of consciousness.

Well I chose it because it was a trigger for some thoughts.

One of the core issues around this whole "narrative" is if we are going to save ourselves or not. I think to the greatest extent possible that we should, and we can ask for help with that.

Gaia will be saved anyway, of that I have no doubt, what happens to the people is another matter.

I am kind of interested in this whole idea of hierarchy, military action, commanders, commanded, archons and subjects. All these are dynamics of individual or group freedoms; the rulers and the ruled. Then how is that ruling done? Consent, Enforced, or obtained by careful and long term deception leading to the grant of consent under layers of obfuscation and falsehoods.

I was not saying you were right or wrong either.

Posted by StarDust (here)
I agree with you in principle. However, my understanding of my role relative to the expansion of conciousness unfolding here is quite clear. I am aware of my function as a light worker and to a lesser degree as a communicator and am comfortable with my compartmentalization as such.

Since things are unfolding as I have been informed, I see little need to call into question certain aspects of the expansion of consciousness that I am not specifically tasked with. I this sense, I have confidence in our allies and their ability to carry out the mission without need for fear that they are acting with positive intention.

Hierarchical structures exist throughout the cosmos and Densities for the purpose of efficacy; with the exception of 3rd Density, such structures are not nefarious in intent among positive oriented beings/societies. That is pretty much a unique feature about 3rd Density from my perspective. Thus, I have no need to fear any of it and to a larger extent question wether or not something is being done for the greater good. Please keep in mind that this assessment is based on the positive outcome of the initial resonance energy scan I performed and is not some form of gullibility.

The clarification is appreciated.

I still see this COBRA/DRAKE as a complex "narrative" - currently it is an unverifiable story to my thinking and perspective - I just can't verify it - and that only affects me. My holding pattern is to consider it as myth, allegory or narrative.

I see the "Stardust 2" narrative as polarizing.

It is either playing to some readers sense of vengeance, justice delivered or warlike aspirations for having the biggest guns and the best chance of winning, or it plays to other reader's sense of revulsion because "thou shalt not kill ( let alone disintegrate! )"; and of course from there on, who has the right to judge that?

It also plays to my own take on this, which is strictly that we all created this, we are each our own beings - connected to each-other by virtue of the fact that we are each of us reflections of the mystery that is the one-infinite creator - and we are connected at the point of the reflection to all that there is and of course each other.

This narrative would not even have existed in my part of that had I not bought into this co-creation we have made - and I did, evidently do that.

In that model (my one!), there is no higher authority than ourselves, so my position is that we ourselves, need to figure out how we want OUR worlds and lives to be.

For me, that means no armed conflicts, no death dealing judgements by others.

For those following a different narrative - it means I am naive and the universe just cannot work that way.

Not a paradox, because the universe is infinite.

From my heart to yours, connected, yet with all freedom to do what thou thinks.

[StarDust]

Posted by Anchor (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by Anchor (here)
> "who am I to say what is right or wrong"

You are you, and you are to say whatever you feel needs to be said.

Interesting that you chose that statement to stand on its own when it was intended to modify the fact that everything that is likely to go into a decision like sending souls to the galactic center are unknown to me. I do my best not to jump to conclusions unless the better part of the whole picture is available for preview. With this in mind, and based on what little was mentioned by COBRA with regard to the decision making process, there is too little information to come to any conclusion about what was allegedly decided upon. This was the basis for my following statement:

Posted by StarDust (here)
However, if such decisions are reached by higher authorities, then who am I to say what is right or wrong considering that there is little chance of knowing all the facts that have likely gone into this decision when examining it from the 'outside', within this plane of consciousness.

Well I chose it because it was a trigger for some thoughts.

One of the core issues around this whole "narrative" is if we are going to save ourselves or not. I think to the greatest extent possible that we should, and we can ask for help with that.

If "All" are truly "ONE", then the presence of the liberation forces and others here at this time to aid Gaia and Terrans is, in effect, saving ourselves. Examining it any other way is giving preference to the illusion of separation.

Gaia will be saved anyway, of that I have no doubt, what happens to the people is another matter.

Gaia has done her job supporting life and allowing beings to grow upon and within her. She has more than earned her graduation status into 4th Density. Terrans, on the other hand, are each on their own path with widely varying degrees of advancement. Since many are still living within the illusion of separation, it is up to each being to create their own version of reality. As the automobile industry cliche goes, individual results will vary. In the end, there are infinite paths but only one direction. So if some beings take longer in their journey then no harm is done.

I am kind of interested in this whole idea of hierarchy, military action, commanders, commanded, archons and subjects. All these are dynamics of individual or group freedoms; the rulers and the ruled. Then how is that ruling done? Consent, Enforced, or obtained by careful and long term deception leading to the grant of consent under layers of obfuscation and falsehoods.

I think that depends on which end of the polarization spectrum you are leaning. For positive beings, the hierarchy exists to maximize results by acting in ways that are the most efficient and utilizing each beings specific talents toward the whole. Imagine if you will, the bridge of the Starship Enterprise. Each person has a specific function and each caries out their duty without need to question the authority structure. Since most information is known and shared on a collective level, there are very few, if any, secrets. Thus, trust is universal amongst all participants.

For negatively oriented systems, like the Drako & Hydra reptilians, the are a service to self based society. Thus, they are highly compartmentalized, highly secretive, highly power hungry, highly controlled, etc - I'm pretty sure that our current military and governments are merely microcosms of the reptilian model. It certainly wasn't invented here and is most likely perfected amongst those purely negative societies.

I was not saying you were right or wrong either.

I didn't interpret your comments in that way. So, no offense taken.

Posted by StarDust (here)
I agree with you in principle. However, my understanding of my role relative to the expansion of conciousness unfolding here is quite clear. I am aware of my function as a light worker and to a lesser degree as a communicator and am comfortable with my compartmentalization as such.

Since things are unfolding as I have been informed, I see little need to call into question certain aspects of the expansion of consciousness that I am not specifically tasked with. I this sense, I have confidence in our allies and their ability to carry out the mission without need for fear that they are acting with positive intention.

Hierarchical structures exist throughout the cosmos and Densities for the purpose of efficacy; with the exception of 3rd Density, such structures are not nefarious in intent among positive oriented beings/societies. That is pretty much a unique feature about 3rd Density from my perspective. Thus, I have no need to fear any of it and to a larger extent question wether or not something is being done for the greater good. Please keep in mind that this assessment is based on the positive outcome of the initial resonance energy scan I performed and is not some form of gullibility.

The clarification is appreciated.

You're welcome!

I still see this COBRA/DRAKE as a complex "narrative" - currently it is an unverifiable story to my thinking and perspective - I just can't verify it - and that only affects me. My holding pattern is to consider it as myth, allegory or narrative.

Yes, a narative indeed! Although I see Drake & Co. as little more than spokes persons. Until they have actionable intelligence, I find it's best to keep an open mind about their suggestions/news, but to not go to extraordinary lengths to worry about what they are saying. Some feel the need to prejudge them as positive or negative without much basis for doing so (conjecture) - that to me is ego trying to assert some type of authority where none exists.

I see the "Stardust 2" narrative as polarizing.

Agreed. COBRA should have kept the details under wraps and/or had the 'message' reviewed by people who actually know a thing or two about PR/communications. It was the sign of a novice.

It is either playing to some readers sense of vengeance, justice delivered or warlike aspirations for having the biggest guns and the best chance of winning, or it plays to other reader's sense of revulsion because "thou shalt not kill ( let alone disintegrate! )"; and of course from there on, who has the right to judge that?

All of the above. Any experienced communicator would know that words matter.

It also plays to my own take on this, which is strictly that we all created this, we are each our own beings - connected to each-other by virtue of the fact that we are each of us reflections of the mystery that is the one-infinite creator - and we are connected at the point of the reflection to all that there is and of course each other.

Yes, it is a collective creation. The flip side is that it is only a collective creation by agreement within the parallel reality of those who are paying attention to such matters. The vast majority of people out there when asked what is COBRA would respond "it's a snake". To them, all of this does not exist.

This narrative would not even have existed in my part of that had I not bought into this co-creation we have made - and I did, evidently do that.

The same can be said of any narrative for any experience by any one.

In that model (my one!), there is no higher authority than ourselves, so my position is that we ourselves, need to figure out how we want OUR worlds and lives to be.

I agree with this thought. However, when applying the notion that All are ONE, it is impossible to come up with any other conclusion. From my perspective, the cabal, the liberation forces and I AM the same being; thus, this exercise is being conducted purely for the experience of it all.

For me, that means no armed conflicts, no death dealing judgements by others.

If that is what you envision, then I'm certain that the universe will deliver it to you. The tricky part is holding that vibration long enough for it to become your permanent reality. And as Alex Collier once stated, "where your focus goes the energy flows." So, staying away from sites like this and subject matter that is commonly discussed here and elsewhere would be a prerequisite to expediting that world to you, IMO.

For those following a different narrative - it means I am naive and the universe just cannot work that way.

They never truly see YOU…no one ever does. All another can see is a version of you they have created energetically in their heads. The only reason you 'meet' at all is by agreement. If there is no agreement, then there is no meeting.

Not a paradox, because the universe is infinite.

Very true! Infinite possibility within infinite parallel realities.

From my heart to yours, connected, yet with all freedom to do what thou thinks.

That's the beauty of it all and why Source has yet to collapse this hologram back into ONE! Cheers to that!!!

[eileenrose]

I am not clear on Cobra (who they are/represent) or archon (infestation), and on death. But of the three, death is the one that we are most familiar with here (planet). I wouldn't waste energy pretending we want the elite to stay on our planet or who they represent. We don't. But some still do. Hence the reluctance to get rid of any of them. Even if some other race if volunteering (that is how I read all of what Cobra has been posting this week as meaning) to do it (in) the most gentle way possible.

This is about karma. Pure and simple. You just can't get involved in other races issues. We got ours, they have theirs. I wouldn't try to change some native's opinion on how to deal with crime (which is they either kill the person or use some other method to get rid of them...ie. they don't own jails...which to them is worse than death, ie. imprisonment).

I think I will leave reasons for said actions alone. I don't see a cause (here)....to get involved in.