+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 35

Thread: Survival tactics with Pistols

  1. Link to Post #1
    United States Unsubscribed
    Join Date
    16th March 2010
    Location
    Florida
    Age
    47
    Posts
    2,944
    Thanks
    5,907
    Thanked 12,350 times in 2,555 posts

    Default Survival tactics with Pistols

    Patriot Nurse's fiance passed away this month. His name is Paul Gomez and he like patriot nurse had a preparedness bent. He also taught weapons useage and safety. I have been going through some of his videos and they are quite good. This one is about stoppages caused by various things when using a semi-automatic pistol. Anyone who does any regular shooting will encounter these problems, but if you are not in the habit of shooting, and a tense situation arises, how are you going to handle a stove pipe stoppage, or one I had recently of a failure to eject and feed so I had a live round stuck behind a shot round?

    I hope this video and the ones I post as follow-up will be useful:



    Rest in peace Paul.

  2. Link to Post #2
    United States Unsubscribed
    Join Date
    16th March 2010
    Location
    Florida
    Age
    47
    Posts
    2,944
    Thanks
    5,907
    Thanked 12,350 times in 2,555 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    So, what caliber do you prefer? Here is an interesting break-down on 9mm vs. .45.


  3. Link to Post #3
    United States Unsubscribed
    Join Date
    16th March 2010
    Location
    Florida
    Age
    47
    Posts
    2,944
    Thanks
    5,907
    Thanked 12,350 times in 2,555 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    Pistols Suck is the title of this video and it's funny, but important to consider what kind of defense weapon you want to rely on if you have a realistic choice.


  4. Link to Post #4
    United States Unsubscribed
    Join Date
    16th March 2010
    Location
    Florida
    Age
    47
    Posts
    2,944
    Thanks
    5,907
    Thanked 12,350 times in 2,555 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    Common sense in what happens when they come to take your guns:


  5. Link to Post #5
    Australia Reality Technician Anchor's Avatar
    Join Date
    10th February 2010
    Location
    Sydney, NSW, Australia
    Age
    49
    Posts
    3,456
    Thanks
    7,664
    Thanked 16,627 times in 2,592 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    Not allowed them here

    So


  6. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Anchor For This Post:

    danceblackcatdance (28th June 2012), Khaleesi (1st July 2012)

  7. Link to Post #6
    United States Unsubscribed
    Join Date
    16th March 2010
    Location
    Florida
    Age
    47
    Posts
    2,944
    Thanks
    5,907
    Thanked 12,350 times in 2,555 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    ummm. good luck? Wait you have crocodile dundee right?

  8. Link to Post #7
    It's just a ride :) danceblackcatdance's Avatar
    Join Date
    25th April 2012
    Location
    here now here now here
    Posts
    329
    Thanks
    2,078
    Thanked 1,192 times in 270 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    likewise no guns here, in fact this is the only weapon you're legally allowed in the uk

    OOB NOOB

  9. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to danceblackcatdance For This Post:

    eileenrose (28th June 2012), golden lady (28th June 2012)

  10. Link to Post #8
    United States Unsubscribed
    Join Date
    16th March 2010
    Location
    Florida
    Age
    47
    Posts
    2,944
    Thanks
    5,907
    Thanked 12,350 times in 2,555 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    Where is your red-neck ingenuity. I can tell you right now that they could take all our guns out where I live and tomorrow we would have home made weapons that would be quite effective. Maybe we just spend too much time turning junk into useful stuff. I suggest you get the book, "Poor mans james bond".

  11. Link to Post #9
    Australia Reality Technician Anchor's Avatar
    Join Date
    10th February 2010
    Location
    Sydney, NSW, Australia
    Age
    49
    Posts
    3,456
    Thanks
    7,664
    Thanked 16,627 times in 2,592 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    ummm. good luck? Wait you have crocodile dundee right?
    Yes

    Kinda...

    I have a delightful collection of "cutlery" in fact.

    Useful when out and about on the farm actually.

    To be honest, my machete is probably the most fearsome thing I have - apart from my dirty looks. It is just a Cold Steel one.

    I considered a firearms license (as a land owning "primary producer", I can actually do that for pest control, which we are legally obliged to do) but there are lots and lots of paper work here in Australia and you are only allowed 22, bolt action rim-fires with a max 5 round magazine; or a shotgun; or a high powered air-rifle. Then you have to have a standards compliant safe and consent to random inspections, so in the end I decided, for now, not to do that. I only wanted one in case I had to put any animals down in a hurry/emergency.

    If I do actually need to kill anything, I will just have to be more creative about it.

  12. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Anchor For This Post:

    D-Day (28th June 2012), danceblackcatdance (28th June 2012), Khaleesi (1st July 2012), Unified Serenity (28th June 2012)

  13. Link to Post #10
    United States Avalon Retired Member
    Join Date
    4th February 2012
    Location
    santa cruz, ca
    Age
    49
    Posts
    593
    Thanks
    909
    Thanked 1,301 times in 435 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    Here is a short 3 minute video on what happens when it is legal to carry a gun and the police get called.

    title: "Law Student Puts Cop In His Place After Being Unlawfully Stopped For Carrying A Gun In Maine "

    http://tiny.cc/lrvlgw

    ....
    I posted it to show that we are already conditioned to call the police and this doesn't bode well. Because it implies they are right and hence 'us' wrong.
    ...just saying....it isn't just the TSA conditioning us to accept someone's boot.
    Last edited by eileenrose; 29th June 2012 at 02:35. Reason: added title

  14. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to eileenrose For This Post:

    13th Warrior (29th June 2012), Fred Steeves (29th June 2012), Khaleesi (1st July 2012)

  15. Link to Post #11
    United States Slurpy goodness conk's Avatar
    Join Date
    17th March 2010
    Posts
    2,367
    Thanks
    4,357
    Thanked 5,059 times in 1,563 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    Here is a little tidbit I just taught my young girls, as it seems appropriate for this thread.

    In an effort to be prepared for anything that may come their way, I offered this: Never go willingly with anyone, even at gun point. Scream and flee! The threatening person will likely not shoot. If he shoots, he'll likely miss. If he hits you, it will likely not be deadly. So, never ever get into a car or go with the attacker. Scream and run for your life.

  16. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to conk For This Post:

    Khaleesi (1st July 2012), selinam (28th June 2012), Unified Serenity (28th June 2012)

  17. Link to Post #12
    UK Avalon Member Simonm's Avatar
    Join Date
    5th October 2011
    Location
    Leeds England
    Age
    48
    Posts
    188
    Thanks
    121
    Thanked 629 times in 155 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    A knife is NOT a weapon! It is a tool (apologies here if I have missed the whole point of a joke) I teach scouts the propper use of the knife and other such tools in a survival and/or general usage and the biggest frutrating thing is the general concept that a good quality bush knife is a weapon. I try to explain to the young uns that ANY tool or implement can become a weapon, or even a pointy stick.
    People too weak to follow their own dreams will always find a way to discourage yours.

    twitter:@armleywhite

  18. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Simonm For This Post:

    13th Warrior (29th June 2012), Anchor (30th June 2012)

  19. Link to Post #13
    United States Unsubscribed
    Join Date
    16th March 2010
    Location
    Florida
    Age
    47
    Posts
    2,944
    Thanks
    5,907
    Thanked 12,350 times in 2,555 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    shooting techniques for optimum performance


  20. Link to Post #14
    Thread Killer 13th Warrior's Avatar
    Join Date
    24th November 2010
    Posts
    933
    Thanks
    835
    Thanked 2,149 times in 692 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    Where is your red-neck ingenuity. I can tell you right now that they could take all our guns out where I live and tomorrow we would have home made weapons that would be quite effective. Maybe we just spend too much time turning junk into useful stuff. I suggest you get the book, "Poor mans james bond".
    A mouse trap can be seriously deadly...
    “Bundinn er bátlaus maður”

  21. Link to Post #15
    United States Unsubscribed
    Join Date
    16th March 2010
    Location
    Florida
    Age
    47
    Posts
    2,944
    Thanks
    5,907
    Thanked 12,350 times in 2,555 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    I don't really like revolvers much except for some of the issues a semi-auto can easily have primarily stove pipe rounds. A revolver is a dependable weapon, I just prefer semi-auto for the number of rounds it holds and ease of use for me. This video is for those who choose a large caliber revolver in understanding various techniques to properly hold the weapon.


  22. Link to Post #16
    Thread Killer 13th Warrior's Avatar
    Join Date
    24th November 2010
    Posts
    933
    Thanks
    835
    Thanked 2,149 times in 692 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    Quote Posted by Simonm (here)
    A knife is NOT a weapon! It is a tool (apologies here if I have missed the whole point of a joke) I teach scouts the propper use of the knife and other such tools in a survival and/or general usage and the biggest frutrating thing is the general concept that a good quality bush knife is a weapon. I try to explain to the young uns that ANY tool or implement can become a weapon, or even a pointy stick.
    Martial arts have their roots in farm tools.
    “Bundinn er bátlaus maður”

  23. The Following User Says Thank You to 13th Warrior For This Post:

    Anchor (30th June 2012)

  24. Link to Post #17
    United States Unsubscribed
    Join Date
    16th March 2010
    Location
    Florida
    Age
    47
    Posts
    2,944
    Thanks
    5,907
    Thanked 12,350 times in 2,555 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    Massad Ayoob is considered one of the foremost experts in the world in self defense and defensive tactics for civilians and police. This video is about weapons retention and it's an important point of interest for anyone who considers concealed carry or open carry. According the Ayoob, undercover police are much more likely to be disarmed due to out of sight out of mind mentality. Retention holsters are a good way to insure weapon safety. This video brings up some good points of interest:


  25. Link to Post #18
    Avalon Member Fred Steeves's Avatar
    Join Date
    7th December 2010
    Location
    Knoxville, Tennessee
    Age
    47
    Posts
    3,192
    Thanks
    19,701
    Thanked 24,759 times in 2,990 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    Quote Posted by eileenrose (here)
    Here is a short 3 minute video on what happens when it is legal to carry a gun and the police get called.

    title: "Law Student Puts Cop In His Place After Being Unlawfully Stopped For Carrying A Gun In Maine "

    http://tiny.cc/lrvlgw

    ....
    I posted it to show that we are already conditioned to call the police and this doesn't bode well. Because it implies they are right and hence 'us' wrong.
    ...just saying....it isn't just the TSA conditioning us to accept someone's boot.
    That was priceless!!! Thanks eileenrose.

    Each time I take our little Johnboat out for a jaunt on the river here where we live, I'm prepared for a very similar situation. When you're out there, you are required to have the boat's registration, a whistle, a paddle, and a life vest for each person onboard.

    The cops patrollig the river just love to do their cute little "Safety Checks"(LOL). When they do, the boater is required to show these items, and that's it. Safety. Duh! What they do though is use it as an excuse to search the boat, namely for alcohol, as it's a hefty fine going to the broke county.

    And to boot? They know damn well they have no right to search the vessel with no suspicion of a crime, so they "ask" the people to open baitwells and coolers themselves. Everyone does, because either they don't know any better, or they are intimidated.

    Sometimes I bring a gun out there, sometimes I don't. Either way it's none of his business, and I intend to respectfully, but forcefully not comply, just as the guy in the video did. It will be most interesting to observe how they react. If/when it it finally occurs, I'll share what happened here.
    Last edited by Fred Steeves; 29th June 2012 at 17:36.
    All Is Well

  26. The Following User Says Thank You to Fred Steeves For This Post:

    eileenrose (30th June 2012)

  27. Link to Post #19
    United States Unsubscribed
    Join Date
    16th March 2010
    Location
    Florida
    Age
    47
    Posts
    2,944
    Thanks
    5,907
    Thanked 12,350 times in 2,555 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    The flip side is how to disarm an attacker and you are very certain you are going to be shot. You can almost bank on the fact that you will be shot in attempting this, but if the alternative is certain death this is information that may save your life:


  28. Link to Post #20
    Thread Killer 13th Warrior's Avatar
    Join Date
    24th November 2010
    Posts
    933
    Thanks
    835
    Thanked 2,149 times in 692 posts

    Default Re: Survival tactics with Pistols

    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    Patriot Nurse's fiance passed away this month. His name is Paul Gomez and he like patriot nurse had a preparedness bent. He also taught weapons useage and safety. I have been going through some of his videos and they are quite good. This one is about stoppages caused by various things when using a semi-automatic pistol. Anyone who does any regular shooting will encounter these problems, but if you are not in the habit of shooting, and a tense situation arises, how are you going to handle a stove pipe stoppage, or one I had recently of a failure to eject and feed so I had a live round stuck behind a shot round?

    I hope this video and the ones I post as follow-up will be useful:



    Rest in peace Paul.
    One of the best reasons to have a revolver(if you're not proficient with a semi-auto). There are no "stove pipes" or failure to battery.

    You can take Boris the Blades advice on it also:

    “Bundinn er bátlaus maður”

+ Reply to Thread

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts