View Poll Results: Do you grow your own food, and how much?

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  • No – I am not growing any food and have no plans to start

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  • No – I am not growing any food but I do have plans to start

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  • Yes – I grow a small amount (up to 10%) for food

    52 57.78%
  • Yes – I grow at least half of the food we eat

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  • Yes – I grow the majority or nearly all (90% or more) of the food we eat

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    Default Are you growing food?

    Quick poll.

    This is a poll about growing food to consume. Consumption is by either you and/or your immediate family.

    In this poll, please select the closest.

    Poll is anonymous so far as the forum is concerned, I cannot vouch for the what the TLA spies are doing with the information. You don't have to post any follow up, but please do so if you have anything interesting to share.

    I had the idea for this while digging out another part of my veggie-patch

    For me its I grow some, but I have plans to get to nearly all
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    Default Re: Are you growing food?

    I do hope to grow all of my food next year.

    Also hope to build a couple of large polytunnels so that the harmfull substances from chemtrails don't affect my food.
    We have well water here so that helps too!

    Great idea this thread!

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    Default Re: Are you growing food?

    Well, i'm trying to grow near half, at least this summer. To be honest and thereby eat less actually. Bad habits from past deceptions are so hard to boot. Also it is an exercise at many levels. It helps as back up, to test the potentials, in worst case scenarios. It projects future probability for building that new paradigm... Are we just sublimating folks?

    Fresh photo from yesterday. At least i built my first productive nitrogen-fixer-reactor, this year, finally. For speeding up compost. Nitrogen is key, where animal raising is a tough feat-- Where society should suddenly collapse -- If commercial networks stop deliveries for so many reasons. After years of improving this effort.... Too long a story but improving my commitments, to stop at nothing.

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    PS- Humans need to manufacture a half decent translucent dome material. Earth climates are not salubrious as climates could be-- Humans have lost those full benefits of the big blue dome of the sky. So that we almost need our attic dome, to provide protective growing at home. .... Humans should work towards good ecology instead of scorch and burn madness of the archons.
    Until then, build a green attic ^__^


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    Default Re: Are you growing food?

    What about "if I had the land I would grow my own food?"


    Have a great weekend..

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    Default Re: Are you growing food?

    I asked a few gardening forums about how to grow temperate crops in the tropics, seeking input for innovative ways to do so, such as how I saw air-conditioned commercial nurseries have done it here. I got mostly advice to quit doing that and focus all effort on crops that are suitable for my climate.

    May free energy be made available to us all soon, so we can have lettuce in the desert too. :D

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    Default Re: Are you growing food?

    10-20%, but well stocked on rice, beans, and dried fruits and vegis from past years.

    Just in from picking 1/2 gallon of blueberries. The blue-jays have left in recent days and my stress from their continuous raids has gone.

    Previous season raspberry canes about done, we made 24 jars of preserves from these. New canes will fruit in a few weeks.

    Our asparagus is now ferned, we harvested the end of spinach season, just planted the green beans, one bed enough for all year, other fancy greens growing and first tomatoes ripening. (mountain valley makes everything later here).

    Trying peppers this year but our fewer sun hours from tight valley limits them and makes corn a no-go.

    Have pears on trees, and some grapes on vines, but plums and peaches and many grapes were all taken out by late freeze this year. Fuyu persimmons in fall make great dried fruit, and chutney.

    Now I have to hope (and pray) for sufficient (irregular) income to keep making (large) payments, as don't own this spread yet, and particularly value the pure gravity-fed mountain spring water which provides all our water needs, with power or without.

    Good luck and best wishes to all gardeners and (non-monsanto-abused) food-growers
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    Default Re: Are you growing food?

    i only have a small patch of land, unfortunately. i'm sorta limited.

    currently growing:

    -tomatoes
    -garlic
    -hot red peppers
    -cucumbers
    *will add more as i get more ambitious

    when i lived in California my back yard looked like a tropical rain forest. it was wonderful. there were lemons, limes, an orange tree, persimmons (had never even heard of persimmons until i left the east coast), mangos and strawberries. and a whole bunch of other stuff i can't think of at the moment. there wasn't quite enough to subsist on solely, but certainly enough to ease my financial burden.

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    Default Re: Are you growing food?

    I voted in the 10% category, but I hope it will be over 50% by fall, and close to 90% by next year. See ulli's thread for updates shortly....
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    Default Re: Are you growing food?

    We had a garden for the past few years but stopped because we are in a drought where we live. Last garden we had just shriveled up and died. We are sooo limited on water here, and when it rains it's usually less than 1/2" while 10 miles north or south of us has a deluge. It's really frustrating to have rain forcasted for our area then watch it go around us.

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    Default Re: Are you growing food?

    Yes I grow a lot of food and also meat, and some of the food for the animals.
    Butter and oil and milled grains I buy.
    I growe some where I live witch is not my land but I get to use it.
    I also grow my own seeds to netxt year. So last year I saved some carrots to give me seeds to next year and It have worked fine. They are soon flowering my carrots.

    And I grow with a groop on a nother place ( learn them how to grow ) and I have been exiting.
    I also graft and take cuttings and so on.

    My ( and Jorrs) dream was to make a food forest

    Here is what i grow for now.

    Walnut hazelnut, peach,plum,apple garnate apple, (kiwi but they didnt get in the soil) we grafted a lots off different apple trees. winegrapes.

    Strawberrys blueberrys roses, melon

    Aspargus, corn differet sorts. cale different sorts, beans, peas, garlic, uniun, menth, oregano,thyme, carrots, potatoes cucumber, abuergine, squash, chilli, paprika,tomatoes, basil, tagetes (flower) and more lol its a lot.

    I wanted to grow weete but maybe next year or in the future and mill my own seeds.

    I have rabbits an chickens and hope to some day have own grown fish to.

    I grow organic/biodynamic and use the nature in many ways.

    All is well

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    Default Re: Are you growing food?

    Quote Posted by Ivanhoe (here)
    We had a garden for the past few years but stopped because we are in a drought where we live. Last garden we had just shriveled up and died. We are sooo limited on water here, and when it rains it's usually less than 1/2" while 10 miles north or south of us has a deluge. It's really frustrating to have rain forcasted for our area then watch it go around us.
    Hi, yea that is a big problem. You should in such an area consider to make systems that re- use the water.
    And real rain collection system also important to find ways so the water dont just evaporate in to the air.

    Water is so presius to all living things.

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    Default Re: Are you growing food?

    Living in south Mississippi, the first order of business when constructing the beds was to do so with efficient irrigation in mind. I was fortunate that the previous owners of the house grew exotic plants for local nurseries, so they had done a lot of the work before me so that the yard has the right drainage, etc. I run the hose for about twenty minutes and it fills in the troughs between the rows and is held by little mounds I've put in several in the midst of the troughs. So far, so good! I only do the watering when the sun hasn't risen, or has gone down, so I'm not losing so much moisture to evaporation.
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    Default Re: Are you growing food?

    Good poll here!


    I'm growing food, too, and am just about to hit the 25% mark of supplying food for our little, three-person household here in California.


    I love to fish, so I've been going out fishing and catching crazy amounts of bluegill and crappie -- big ones! -- to stock my little, portable fish tank that consists of a pond liner that's sitting on the ground with the ground dug out a slight bit and lined with hay bales with the pond liner going up and over the hay bales.


    The hay bales are three bales long, then two bales wide with the flat sides of the hay bales standing up on the sides. So the deepest spot in the shaded fish tank is 28 inches; the shallowest is 22 inches.


    Right now I have about 100+ bluegill and crappie in the tank. When we want fish for dinner, I go out and get my bamboo pole that has line on it, then flip the little foam spider with rubbery legs on it onto the water and those hungry fish go right at it.


    I capture bugs from all over the garden and dump them into the pond, so the fish love those bugs, plus I put worms into the tank, too. I put fish guts into a bucket and store it far away from us, yet out of reach of animals, so every few days, I'd go out there and and snag a bunch of maggots for the fish. I also feed them organic animal food pellets.


    I also have bug zappers for both day and night, so those fish have a lot of food coming their way each day.


    I get the fish at a local lake that's a catch-and-release lake for bass, but there are tons and tons of large bluegill and crappie that people don't even bother to fish for, other than the occasional kid on the docks.


    So we have enough fish to serve about a pound a day for a solid month, if needed.


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    Default Re: Are you growing food?

    Interesting that no one is growing ALL the food they eat (34 voted so far).

    The reason I posted this is because I think soon it will be a good idea if you can make most of your own food and barter for the rest; I was interested in how many are already doing that.
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    hi Anchor, great thread. my boyfriend and i are getting ready to do the window farming. where we live right now, there is no where to plant a garden, so we are going to try to grow what we can in window farms. we are also looking at growing with the right lights in our basement. i am really excited about this and we should be up and running within several weeks. thanks for the thread, i will come back after we do our set up and let you know how our plants are doing, and if they do anything at all.
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    Quote Posted by Sunlite (here)
    What about "if I had the land I would grow my own food?"


    Have a great weekend..

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    look on youtube for window farming techniques. this is what i am getting ready to do. it works well for those of us who do not have gardening areas.
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    Default Re: Are you growing food?

    Im into the third year on our garden. Each time it gets larger. But I would say that we still only grow about 10 to 20 percent. So much to learn with food storage and preservation. Next year we will start to add animals. likely two steers, maybe rabbits or chickens if we can get the barn built.

    this year the raspberry patch went in and we doubled the size of the corn and vegetable plots. Added irrigation systems. Started almost everything from seed, which is a feat in my zone 3 to 4 climate. Most gardeners around here purchase plants and pop them in. My asparagus from last year failed to return so I started another variety this year. Also working in increasing perinneal herbs.

    There are two berry plants Im considering for next year that are prolific and easy to multiply. Look into Honeyberries - zone 3 and Gogi Berries, zone 4. Lots of info on the net on how to do the Gogi. They are one of the most powerful berries out there for health.

    There is only one zone 3 nut tree that I could find and I purchased two this year,,,, Butternut. but one died so will have to get another next year. We have 7 fruit trees in... but if the shtf soon we would be having a hard time ... we just are not ready. When you start growing food and storing it and dealing with it all the time you start to realize what a huge project it is.

    It is a process that takes quite a bit of time and if you think you can just run out and build a sustainable garden in one season you better think again. And for those looking at doing urban gardening or wall gardening to survive in their homes for survival I think you are fooling yourselves. Urban gardening is possible but you can't be sustainable in just pots.. you have to have at least 1/4 acre of land and be very dilligent using every square inch efficiently. I fyou dont have this look into developing a community garden within walking distance to your home. More and more community gardens are sprouting up. I think its the only way you could possibly produce enough food. You can grow quite a bit in a basement with lighting systems but do you really want to invest in being reliant on the energy grid?
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    Quote Posted by Anchor (here)
    Interesting that no one is growing ALL the food they eat (34 voted so far).

    .
    A LOT of knowlege is needed to grow ALL your food. Most people dont have that.
    And land is needed and ALL dont have that.

    Just how many people have ever milked a cow ? done butter, and so on.

    Most have no clue how to grow plants and what to do when pests comes.

    How to make the soil full of microbic life so the plants get nutritius.

    And if you eat meat how to handel the killing and the rest before the meat is ready to be on the plate.
    And how to take care of the animal and give it the right food and grow that food to.

    How to collect water to the plants and maybe to the animals and self to.

    Very few even know what to eat in the wild if there is no food.

    Yea window farming is a very good start if you only have a apartment.
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    Quote Posted by PurpleLama (here)
    Living in south Mississippi, the first order of business when constructing the beds was to do so with efficient irrigation in mind. I was fortunate that the previous owners of the house grew exotic plants for local nurseries, so they had done a lot of the work before me so that the yard has the right drainage, etc. I run the hose for about twenty minutes and it fills in the troughs between the rows and is held by little mounds I've put in several in the midst of the troughs. So far, so good! I only do the watering when the sun hasn't risen, or has gone down, so I'm not losing so much moisture to evaporation.
    Home depot sells some nice irrigation lines... we purchased two hundred feet of this brown hose that has drip holes every 18 inches, perfect spacing for large plants. Its now irrigating the cabbage, broccoli and lettuces. Lay your line first then plant where the drip holes are.. LOL! I planted first then got the line... not to efficient. Next year will be better... and this line lasts a long time. My neighbor has had it in his raspberry patch for several years and its holding up. He just leaves it lie there all winter... Its very water efficint and you arnt watering all the earth where weeds would be sprouting up, and loosing nutrients to down drainage in those areas.


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    Nothing is sustainable untill you can get your own seeds and some plants give seeds the second year and that takes space to.
    How to collect the seeds and keep them or how to plant diffrent plants so that they protect echother.

    You dont learn all in one year and all plants and animals ar different and have different needs.

    Like Arrow wind writes just how to preserve the food is quite a big thing to learn. If you grow for the food to last to next year you cant freze it all. And what if the power goes then you have no food if it all is in the freezer.
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    My dehydrator is on its way. We do canning and bottling to preserve stuff. For me I will get another freezer, but we are off grid, and I already put another lot of panels up ready for the new freezer - but its best not to rely on it, as all things can break or malfunction.
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