From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis

[Krullenjongen]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Remember: their personal sense of commitment is to protect (and manage/ control/ exploit) the human genome... not to take care of individuals, about which they care pretty much as a farmer cares for the fate of individual cows in a very large herd.

The first question that comes to mind is "If they believe that their task is to protect/manage/ control/ exploit the human genome, why would they leave?"

I can understand that the do not care about an individual but if they leave they have no control over the human genome at all, they would just let us die off and all they can do is come back later and pick up the pieces without any control of what will be left over of the human genome.

The scenario of culling the herd with war, pestilence and famine seems more likely to me because these are instruments of control over the human genome.

[markpierre]

Is that the point? Changing the 'outside'? If you've changed inside enough to not be fussed about what the outside looks like,
would you even notice?

My experience was no. But that didn't stop me from enjoying it.

It isn't how it looks, it's how it feels.

[jcocks]

Posted by ghostrider (here)
enjoy your brandy and cigars gentlemen, laugh it up , congradulations for being masters of the universe. To the global elite , you'll be stuck on the moon in the coldness of space and your prison ( the moon ) just might leave earth's orbit and return where it came from and you'll be trapped in another dimension where your 3d technology won't work . who's laughing now ? Man that was a crazy dream I just had.

I wholeheartedly agree The first thought that went through my head when I read they wanted to go hide on the moon was that they probably don't even remember that that's the way they got here in the first place! ;-)

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[David Trd1]

Thanks Bill.


It seems to me more than possible a scenario.I would imagine there are plans for the outcomes of many timelines they have seen and would be prudent of the power structures to insure they`re own survival whatever the eventuality.

Weather catastrophe comes for Us(Which i don`t subscribe to),it is already here for them,the population is on the precipice of full awareness and waking up by the truckload which suggests they're game is up,in degrees anyway.But of course negativity doesn't always go quietly into the night or the dawn as the case may be

[David Trd1]

May be a mute point

But doesn`t the end of this year correlate with the ''supposed'' lifting a planetary quarantine if such a thing exists?Ans therefore permits the overt influence of outside influences?....

[RMorgan]

Hey Bill,

Thanks for the thread.

Well, anything is possible, but I think we should clarify some points so we can move on with this discussion.

1- Who exactly is this so called "elite" who supposedly is planning to leave? Are they just humans or ETs?

If there are ETs secretly among this "elite", I don´t see a reason for them to move to the moon. We all know how hard it is to transform a place like the moon, even if it´s just a very small portion of it, into a healthy atmosphere, to have a balanced environment to cultivate plants and food. Also, if ETs are involved, I´m sure they have technology to move somewhere else, maybe a planet with earth like atmosphere.

2- Why move to somewhere else, if we still have untouched places here on Earth where they move to and start their own community?

Human made chaos isn´t enough to make they want to move to another planet. They could simply move to some untouched and desolate place here; it would be much easier and comfortable.

So, if they are really planning to move to the moon or somewhere else, it´s probably because they know a catastrophic event is about to happen, leaving them no other option. It´s the last single possible option.

3- Why, even in the case of a catastrophic event, this "elite" would want to move to another planet?

Is it simply because they are so afraid of death? I don´t think so; most of them are so old, that death will come to them sooner or later.

Besides, these folks are used to live in extreme luxury. Would they want to move to a very restrictive space colony, probably with no luxury at all, just to live a few more years?

If they are supposedly planning it to protect the human genome from extinction, of course they would need to take a lot of people with them, at least a few hundreds of selected men and women, and then spread them as groups in different colonies, so, in case something happens to one colony, the other may survive.

4- Here is the paradox. If they have the advanced technology to transform a moon colony into a comfortable, balanced, prosper and safe environment, why would they move to the moon in the first place?

The moon is very unprotected. It has hundreds of thousands of craters for a reason; it simply isn´t safe. It doesn´t have a proper atmosphere to protect it even from the smallest meteor showers, differently from Earth. It´s not a safe place to move to, much less safer than Earth itself.

If they have the tech to make a habitable and safe place on the moon, they would have the tech to move somewhere else, maybe another safe planet.

Besides, if they have this tech, why not simply build a very safe colony here on Earth in the first place? Maybe underwater, inside caves or somewhere else. It surely is much simpler to build such colony here, even facing a catastrophic event, than building it on the moon.

Well, these are just a few considerations.

This is an interesting hypothesis but before jumping on it, we need to answer a lot of questions.

Cheers,

Raf.

[benevolentcrow]

To quote from another thread (The Hear and Now)

Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth!

[Praxis]

I wanted to add to this thread a little information that I came across about child abuse and ritual exploitation.

The following is from: http://educate-yourself.org/cn/frank...pexcerpt.shtml

The Franklin Cover-Up

Child Abuse, Satanism, and Murder in Nebraska

by John W. DeCamp

Selected excerpts from

The Franklin Cover-Up, Child Abuse, Satanism, and Murder in Nebraska
by Senator John W. DeCamp

[editorial notes from Ken Adachi in brackets. See the Products page for a video on the Franklin Cover-Up titled "Conspiracy of Silence" ]

CHAPTER 21

Drugs and The Monarch Project
On August 18-20, 1996, a California newspaper, the San Jose Mercury, published a series of articles implicating elements of the U.S. government in running tons of cocaine into U.S. cities during the 1980s. Based upon recently declassified government documents, eyewitness reports, and court records, Mercury reporter Gary Webb provided a detailed account of how the Contras financed their war against the Sandinista regime of Nicaragua by flying tons of cocaine into the West Coast, where it would be turned into the deadly, instantly addictive "crack," and sold to such street gangs as the Cryps and the Bloods.

All of this began after the U.S. Congress in the early 1980s passed the Boland Amendment, which stopped all official financing for U.S. intelligence's "covert war" in Nicaragua. The whole project was taken "off-line," and financed by drug sales-the subject of Webb's articles.

Indignation exploded when Mercury series hit the streets. Maxine Waters, Congresswoman for South-Central Los Angeles, one of the areas hardest hit by crack and drug-related violence, sent a letter to Central Intelligence Agency chief John Deutsch demanding an investigation of the Agency, in which she said, "As someone who has seen how the crack cocaine trade has devastated the South-Central Los Angeles community, I cannot exaggerate my feelings of dismay that my own government may have played a part in the origins and history of this problem. . . . The impact and the implications of the Meneses/Blandon/Roiss Contra CIA crack cocaine connection cannot be understated. We all have an obligation to get to the very bottom of the origin, development, and implementation of this seedy enterprise."

While many were shocked at the news of apparent U.S. government drug-pushing, to me it was one more confirmation of a key aspect of the Franklin case. As I had discovered early on (as had Gary Caradori), the sexual abuse of children was only one part of the Franklin story. During the 1980s, many of the children, such as Alisha Owen and Paul Bonacci, said that they had been used as drug couriers to bring cocaine in from the West Coast for Alan Baer, Larry King [not Larry King of CNN talk radio fame; this Larry King is a black man who ran the Franklin Credit Union], and others.

Then, on September 11, 1996, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Representative Harold James, chairman of Pennsylvania's Legislative Black Caucus, and a former undercover narcotics cop himself, also put out a call for an investigation. In the course of that press conference another name popped up, that I knew well from the Franklin investigation: George Bush.

Flanked by political leaders of both the city and the state, James declared: "As a retired undercover Philadelphia police officer who worked on narcotics cases, I know we can better impact the flow of drugs if we stop drugs from coming into this country, arrest those at the top levels of control, and punish the white-collar dealers who try to keep their hands clean while they run the entire operation. On this occasion, we must not allow anyone to use the 'pretext of national security to accomplish another cover-up. We need an investigation that goes right to the top."

As to where the "top" might be, James charged, in his release to the press, "previous investigations of the Iran-Contra scandal, particularly the U.S. House and Senate joint hearings in 1987, revealed the central role played by then Vice-President George Bush in covert intelligence operations. . . . One of Bush's key lieutenants was Lt. Col. Oliver North. Bush was also appointed by Reagan to run the National Narcotics Border Interdiction Sys- tem, which supposedly coordinated efforts of all federal, state and local anti-drug agencies, especially along the south Florida coast. Bush was responsible for the White House anti-drug effort while, at the same time, according to the recent newspaper reports, tons of cocaine were allegedly supplied to street gangs by CIA-related networks."

Concluded James, "There's something wrong with this picture." In response to a question from one of the ten reporters in attendance about the role of Bush, Philadelphia City Council President John Street replied, "If George Bush is involved in it, someone should find it out. This kind of activity has been going on for well over a decade."

Lt. Col. Oliver North - whom at least one witness reported seeing at a party thrown by Larry King-had overseen the Contra resupply effort, and had been fully aware of the plane-loads of drugs coming into the United States. A U.S. Senate subcommittee report under Massachusetts Senator John Kerry cited extensive evidence that the Contras were involved in drugs, and North had noted the fact in his publicly exposed note-books.

From what I know from my own corner of the world, there is excellent reason to investigate Bush for possible involvement in the dope business. Think back to what I reported in Chapter 13, "The Washington Connection," about how George Bush and Larry King were linked in multiple ways, including eyewitness reports placing Bush at King's sex parties. Think about the constant rumors that King was financing the Contras, who have now been proved to have been running dope by the ton.

The first investigative reporter to ever look at Franklin, the World Herald's James Flanery, told associates that King was "running guns and money into Nicaragua," and that the CIA was heavily involved. (Flanery was soon taken off the story and shipped out of state for a year.)

Records exist to show that Larry King was a top contributor to a Contra "support committee," the Citizens for America (CFA). King's own public relations firm was also used by the Contras.

I became convinced early on that King was deeply involved with the Contras. I am reminded of the phone call State Senator Loran Schmit received on the Senate floor as the Franklin case was just beginning to break. The caller warned him off the case, because "it would lead to the highest levels of the Republican party." I am reminded of when Larry King was finally arrested-just as he was about to go to a breakfast party in Omaha for his buddy, George Bush! I am reminded of the reports I used to hear that certain people in Omaha were charging that Omaha Police Chief Bob Wadman was protecting the expansion of the Cryps and Bloods into Omaha-far from their home turf of Los Angeles.

So, was Larry King's buddy George Bush the country's "drug kingpin" in the 1980s? I don't know. But what I do know, is that if Bush were running the Contra affair, and drugs were a big part of it, that would certainly jibe 100% with everything known or rumored about Bush, Larry King, and the Franklin Credit Union. Congresswoman Maxine Waters and Representative Harold James are right - let's investigate!. . .

As follow-up investigation from the Franklin case shows, drugs are not the deepest level of government -sponsored evil. I think the lowest level of Hell is reserved for those who conjured up and carried out the "Monarch Project."

"Monarch" refers to young people in America who were victims of mind control experiments run either by U.S. government agencies such 'as the Central Intelligence Agency, or military intelligence agencies.

The story told by Monarch victims - one of whom is Paul Bonacci - is that they were tortured for the purpose of creating "multiple personalities" within them. These multiple personalities could then be programmed as desired - as spies, "drug mules," prostitutes, or assassins.

Because of legal cases still pending, I am severely limited in what I can say about the Monarch Project. Suffice it to say at this point:

Major intelligence programs in this country did and do exist for the purpose of protection of this country and to learn what other countries, particularly our Cold War enemies, were doing in this area of mind control.

I asked Bill Colby [former CIA director murdered in a staged 'canoing accident'] to tell me what he could or would, about this. He said:

"Of course the CIA in particular was involved in investigating, learning and, on occasion, using, everything we could learn about mind control-and with extremely good reason. Following the Korean War, this country's military and intelligence communities went through a period of absolute paranoia about just how far our enemies were ahead of us in mind control and related activities.

"There was no particular program called' Monarch,' contrary to what you want to think. 'Monarch' was merely a name that some participants in the program-who knew very little about it, other than from their own limited participation-were given to identify themselves. But, as far as the CIA was concerned, there was no such program named 'Monarch.'

"But, with respect to mind control, I will tell you that this country spent millions upon millions supposedly catching up to our Cold War adversaries, because we believed they had developed mind control technology which exceeded anything we had. In fact, we at the Company [CIA] truly believed for a substantial period of time, that technology and techniques and drugs had been developed by Russia which would enable them to have agents who in fact really were able to have and use ESP-extra sensory perception.

"Can you imagine," Bill continued, "how dangerous for this country it would be if you could have had someone meeting the President of the United States, who was actually able to read what was in the President's mind?

"I know," Bill continued, "it may sound silly today to get all carried away with this fear; but I can tell you that we took it all very seriously and believed this ESP thing for some significant time period.

"I will tell you one other thing," Bill said, somewhat ominously, "we are not behind in knowledge of mind control. In fact, we never were, but we only found that out much later, after we had poured incredible resources into this area. And yes, I am sure, there were some problems and abuses that occurred and we will talk about them at another time."

We did have that other talk. And, I intend, when I am freed from court restrictions, to tell that entire story in an upcoming book. I have deposited extensive documentation on the Monarch Project with people who have the means, the motivation, and, most importantly, the guts, to print the entire story, should I suffer an "accident" before I get around to it. Here, I will merely quote from the work of one of America's finest investigative reporters, Anton Chaitkin.

I had known of Chaitkin, who writes for Executive Intelligence Review magazine, from the book he co-authored with Webster Tarpley, George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography. This 659-page-book is a devastating expose of Bush, and it played a notable role in helping to shape the 1992 presidential campaign, which Bush happily lost.

Perhaps it was because the name "Bush" was all over the Franklin scandal, that Chaitkin showed up one day in my Lincoln law office. I told him, "Look, I know you have been in some tough spots before, but are you really sure you want to poke around in this? This question of 'mind control' - the Monarch Project - is the most scary and, dangerous thing I have ever encountered." As I came to know Anton, probably all that little lecture did was to spur him on. Chaitkin got his story on the Monarch Project, and printed it in the December 13, 1993, New Federalist newspaper under the headline, "Franklin Case Witnesses Implicate FBI and U.S. Elites in Child-Torture and Murder." Here follows an abbreviated version of that article:
. . .

"Franklin Case Witnesses Implicate FBI and U.S. Elites in Child-Torture and Murder."

What is the FBI Protecting?
Since the 1992 publication of John DeCamp's book, The Franklin Cover-Up, Paul Bonacci has filed new affidavits and has given extensive interviews to investigators including reporters for Executive Intelligence Review and New Federalist. Bonacci's disclosures have been cross-gridded with evidence supplied by authorities in law enforcement, psychiatry, and the intelligence community. The result goes a long way to explain the high stakes involved, and the frantic nature of the Franklin cover-up. . . .

Paul Bonacci has described in detail being dragged to Washington for use as a sex toy for Larry King's clients. Bonacci told investigators he was in one of the private White House tours for young male prostitutes conducted by lobbyist Craig Spence, a close political associate of Larry King in the cloak-and-dagger Contras enterprise. Spence turned up dead in a Boston hotel room in 1989, soon after his and King's "compromising" business was exposed in a Washington Times June 29, 1989 story, headlined: "Homosexual Prostitution Inquiry Ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush."

'Monarch' or Auschwitz - Take 2
From very early childhood, Paul Bonacci was subjected to tortures as profound as any the Nazis inflicted on their captives. This is not merely a comparison; rather it is an actual continuation, as we shall see. From sexual degradation, from witnessing and forced participation in Satanic cult murders, Bonacci suffered the cracking of his mind into what is called "multiple personality disorder" (MPD). Tens of thousands of American children have been diagnosed MPDs; virtually all of them are thought to have resulted from sexual abuse, of which perhaps 85 percent were cases of Satanic ritual abuse.

Psychiatric professionals specified in Paul Bonacci's legal proceedings that through it all, Paul's different "personalities" have emerged incapable of lying, with an ultra-sharp memory. In one instance detailed in The Franklin Cover- Up, Paul was taken by Larry King and others to a wooded area in California - identified after publication as the Bohemian Grove. There Paul and another boy were forced to do sex acts with and to consume parts of a child whom they had watched being murdered by the cultists. The body was to be disposed of by "the men with the hoods." A "snuff" pornography film was made of these events; it was directed by a man the party had picked up in Las Vegas whom Paul identified as "Hunter Thompson" -the same name as a well known sleaze-culture figure.

Paul has told investigators that the ring which plunged him into Satanism was centered at Offutt U.S. Air Force Base near Omaha; that he was taken to Offutt to be sexually victimized by a babysitter's boyfriend when he was about three years old, around 1970. Offutt is the headquarters for the Strategic Air Command, and has had a cadre of thousands of intelligence personnel.

At Offutt, and later at other military installations, Paul says this ring "trained" him by tortures, heavy drugging, and sexual degradation, while instructing him in military arts including assassination. In fact, his personal knowledge in these realms can scarcely be accounted for other than by crediting the indictments he has made.

Larry King, FBI agent Gerry Wahl/ Alan Baer, Harold Andersen, and former Omaha Police Chief Robert Wadman have all been reported as collaborators with this Satanic military-based ring. King reportedly told Paul's captors at Offutt, "He's young-but you trained him good." A member of Nebraska's Concerned Parents group reported hearing from two North Omaha witnesses that "King used to send limousines down to Offutt Air Base to pick up CIA agents for parties." Larry King reported his own adoring relationship to the late CIA Director William Casey in a Sept. 7, 1988, interview in the Omaha publication Metropolitan.

Psychiatrists who have treated a growing number of MPD cases, victims of Satanic ritual abuse, report an alarming pattern of findings in many of their child patients. There is a structure to the personalities, conforming to what is evidently a deliberate breaking and reshaping of the mind. This phenomenon was identified to Paul Bonacci by his tormenters, and to other victims and witnesses, as the "Monarch" project. At Offutt Airbase, Paul was told that what he and other children were being subjected to was in aid of national security.

The use of mind-altering drugs, sensory deprivation, and other brainwashing techniques on U.S. citizens as subjects was the admitted practice of the CIA, certain military arms and private institutions joined in the MK-ULTRA, Artichoke, and Bluebird projects beginning in the early 1950s. A national security pretext often cited was the need to keep up with the Soviets in the race to develop a workable Manchurian Candidate human robot. With the "Monarch" (or whatever official title may be attached to it) project, the idea is extended to the production of a horde of children in whom the soul is crushed, who would spy, whore, kill, and commit suicide.

The material presented here, on this subject, must be under- stood to be only a bare introduction to a complex story with immense political and strategic ramifications. It is a beginning. Professionals probing the child victims of "Monarch" say there are clearly two responsible elements at work: the government/military, and cooperating Satanic (or more exactly pagan) cults. These are multi-generation groups, where parents donate their own children-who are proudly called "bloodline" or simply "blood" cultists - to be smashed with drugs and electric shock, and shaped. Other children are kidnapped and sold into this hell, or are brought in gradually through day-care situations.

Paul Bonacci and other child victims have given evidence in great depth on the central role of Lt. Col. Michael Aquino in this depravity. Aquino, alleged to have recently retired from an active military role, was long the leader of an Army psycho- logical warfare section which drew on his "expertise" and personal practices in brainwashing, Satanism, Nazism, homo- sexual pedophilia and murder.

A former director of the CIA was asked directly, "what about 'Monarch' "? He replied angrily, and ambiguously, "We stopped that between the late 1960s and the early 1970s." If a statement of fact, this would presumably relate to official participation of the CIA.

Some Codes and Assignments
The disclosures of Paul Bonacci, which cohere with reports of MPD professionals in other cases, point to a particular artificially induced mental structure as common to many victimized children. Space permits only the briefest treatment of this here; this is intended mainly to begin to "blow the circuits," so to speak, when followed up by professional therapists and investigators.

These are some of the widely occurring separate "persons" which have been formed under torture, and the corresponding "triggers":

. General personality-accessible under the code name ALPHA, with possible Alpha-001, Alpha-009, etc. "persons" with distinct task orientations.

. Sex programs, accessible through code name BETA; particular programs (and thus commands) are for pornography, acting, oral sex, etc.

. Assassination programs, utilizing very specific modes, and espionage, accessible through code DELTA.

. OMEGA, self-destruction programs, ranging from self mutilation to suicide by many different specific possible acts.

. GAMMA, system deception, amnesia and disinformation programs. Under this or 'other codes are track-covering false origins for the structure, giving the child memories of tormenters dressed as space aliens or Mickey Mouse or in Wizard of Oz costumes.

There are said to be such other personality levels as Master Programmer, Black Master, and different mental levels of backup programs. There are reported to be personnel who have large numbers of child-victims' assignments and triggers neatly filed in their little computers.

Paul Bonacci reports the following "Monarch"-related activities, often involving his "Commander" at Offutt AFB, Bill Plemmons, and Lt. Co!. Michael Aquino:

. Picking up cash in exchange for drugs at various Tennessee locations. Bonacci identifies several country music personalities as contacts.

. Trips on behalf of the North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), the pedophile group now given semi- official status by the United Nations. Paul cites travel to the Netherlands and Germany carrying child pornography for sub- sequent "import" to the U.S.A. to avoid prosecution. In Amsterdam, he names "Charles Hester," and the British "Tommie Carter," who had on computer a global list of child pornography users. NAMBLA is also cited for organizing auctions of children.

. Travel to Hawaii, New York, Washington (in connection with Craig Spence) to compromise public figures by performing homosexual pedophile sex with them.

. The trip to California where the boy was ritually murdered, accompanied by "Monarch" contact, Mark Johnson of Denver, Colorado,

. Travel to .Mexico for the transportation of drugs, guns, and children. Paul was accompanied by the gangster-figure "Emilio," who otherwise directed the kidnapping of Johnny Gosch of Des Moines, Iowa. Johnny Gosch's parents commend Paul Bonacci as an accurate witness relative to that crime.

. Training under "Captain Foster" (survival skills) at Fort Riley, Kansas, under "Lt. Dave Bannister" (intelligence) at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, under "Col. Harris Livik" at Fort Defiance, Virginia, who is said to run a military school and to have housed "Monarch" boys. "Col. Bill Risher" of Bamberg, South Carolina, is said to have supplied children for Michael Aquino.

. Travel to Dresden in communist East Germany, where weapons were inspected. There and in the Federal Republic of Germany, the "Monarch" personnel were frequently neo-Nazis. This milieu is a special project of Lt. Col. Aquino, who was a West European adviser to the U.S. Chiefs of Staff. Paul Bonacci has extensive experience in the Aryan Nation and other White Supremacist cults.

An account of the origin of the "Monarch" project has been compiled by those who have been debriefing MPD child-victims. Nazi experimentation in World War II concentration camps were said to have gone beyond simply insane physical tortures. They brainwashed people, for military and strategic purposes. After the war, Allen Dulles and other Western intelligence people brought Nazi doctors out for use in the United States. A teenaged concentration camp inmate named Greenbaum, who had participated to save himself, also came to the United States. Known later as "Dr. Green," he became a high- level brainwasher, and is widely represented in brainwashing programs with a distinctive Cabalistic magic theme.

[at the time this aritcle was written, Anton Chaitlin did not know that Dr. "Greenbaum" was yet another pseudonymn used by Dr. Josep Mengele of Auschwitz notoriety. Arizona Wilder identified Mengele as using both the names of "Dr. Greenbaum" and " Dr. Green" in her 1999 video interview with David Icke titled, Revelations of a Mother Goddess. ]

The precise details of these horrors lie deeply buried in national security archives. But this history, as told to psychiatrists, dovetails with what is definitively known about Anglo- American intelligence operations and the German Nazis. And once again, the story goes right back to Nebraska.

The killers in the Nazi camps were themselves trained and organized by psychiatrists and eugenicists, operating from the "T4" bureau. These psychiatrists had long been the pets of white supremacist British and American financier networks.

At least some of these Nazi doctors were spirited out of Germany under the supervision of for Bank of England Governor Montagu Norman and Tavistock Institute Director John R. Rees on behalf of the British government. Norman, personally an insane Theosophist who had been chief of the prewar pro-Nazi faction within England, and Rees organized postwar propaganda and continuing psychological warfare activities, and created "Orwellian" groupings within U.S. psychiatry and mental health fields.


Now we add information from this website http://www.missingkids.com/missingki...US&PageId=2810 .

The information on here is astounding.
The U.S. Department of Justice reports

Nearly 800,000 children younger than 18 are missing each year, or an average of 2,185 children reported missing each day.
More than 200,000 children were were abducted by family members.
More than 58,000 children were abducted by nonfamily members.
115 children were the victims of “stereotypical” kidnapping. These crimes involve someone the child does not know or a slight acquaintance who holds the child overnight, transports the child 50 miles or more, kills the child, demands ransom, or intends to keep the child permanently.

For them to have most of this information it means that they recovered the kid or found the body. If you add the numbers up it does not make sense. Those numbers leave about 550,000 children missing. Whenever I discuss these figures with people they tell me that they must be run aways. However, even at 50% of that number being runaways, which is a very high over estimate in my opinion, it still leaves 250,000 missing kids.

Now consider that this is only information from the United States where tracking is relatively good. What about the countries where tracking is not so great. There is something very sinister going on with our children.

[Cidersomerset]

If the elites think there is no 'God' or realise we are all 'gods' and have the
power within all of us to change our reality it would explain why they are
playing 'God' to the majority of the population who do not realise we are
all 'gods'......

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFix7xIwrQg

Ion explaining ...God to James Martinez, Bob nevritt and Dr, Carolyn Dean.....Bob is a former
high up Intelligence operative and at 90yrs old is very alert.

http://informationfarm.blogspot.co.u...ho-is-god.html


Thread explaining my interpretation of some of the Ion material..
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...omozone-14-RNA

http://informationfarm.blogspot.co.u...ho-is-god.html

Ion explaining ...Jesus.

http://informationfarm.blogspot.co.u...-howionic.html

Governments, Intel Agencies, CEOs, the Entertainment Industry,
the Vatican are Listening to iON

http://informationfarm.blogspot.co.u...cies-ceos.html

[Tony]

Proof is Credibility.

On the internet, what is the number one rule? Check the source! When people lives are at stake, and especially their well being, hearsay is not good enough, this is just Chinese whispers.
We have a responsibility when passing on hearsay.

If we do not check our source properly, then we are in danger of being 'used' as propaganda messengers. When I write I always have to check whether what was written can be backed up,
if questioned about it!

One could say, that everyone has to do their own checking, and take responsibility for themselves.
I'd ask, if so, “When does love and compassion come into the equation?”

The man in the moon can be doing all sorts of things, it will make no difference to my life.
The world could end tonight, it still will not make any difference to my life. There are things going on in the universe that we will never know about. So what.

A lot of people day dream, and think it is reality. They go to Mars, meet Aliens, all sorts of things.
Under hypnosis we can believe anything! This whole life is one big hypnotic state.

When it comes to aliens...we are aliens! Who says, we belong here? We are only here for the duration of this body.

If there are some idiotic people who think they are elite, and have some super toys, to use against others, then they are in an even bigger hypnotic state then we are! They tried to wipe out all indigenous peoples with their guns, but the knowledge is still here.
Wisdom can never die, as it always....is! It is not something that is created.

Those people hiding away in tunnels, the moon, or south America only make the dream seem real.
Anyone of them could die tomorrow and never know the real truth...pity!

There is no proof, because you cannot ever prove a dream to be real.
Whatever happens within a dream, is part of the dream.



Tony

[Camilo]

Thank you for this great thread Bill. It's been long time since good food for thought and exchange has been posted in the forum. Thank you all for your posts.

I personally think it is well worth the time and effort to thoroughly review all this information, and I strongly resonate with Bill's provocative suggestion at the end.....

"If you reading this, are moved and struck by this thread and these powerful and disturbing concepts, you yourself may be one of those incarnated here specifically to change what's going on.. from the inside. From outside, it may not be possible."

[lake]

The opening post is not sound if you actually THINK about it!

So the elite are going to leave the Earth and no longer care what occurs here. Ok lets take a number of elite, lets say 1000 for ease and also because it would be simpler to relocate 1000 rather than 100000.

Right so these elite, in fact from now I'm going to call them hu-scum rather than elite as this is what they are! The colour of filth.

So these hu-scum have decided that their best move is off Earth. Ok, so their plan is to use the technology which they know of and have access to in order to “move” to the moon or Mars?

1000 hu-scum to go.

These are beings which have NEVER had to understand a feeling of the struggle to be.

They DO NOT need to be intelligent as they are born into their world.

The only power they have is through indoctrination by the masses of the masses through parenting, the manipulation of credit ( debit) and fear of not conforming to others expectations.

So you have 1000 hu-scum on a very high tech ship heading to the moon.
Lets say the moon is made of green cheese to eat and has lakes of pure Chablis to drink.
Who will serve the hu-scum with these treats?
Who will wash the dishes they eat off and the glasses they drink from? Clean their clothes, iron their shirts etc.
They wont do it themselves, don’t forget these aren’t intelligent beings they are just born into a way of being and will act, no matter what, in one manner.

When the hu-scum have a sh*t, who will maintain the systems which remove and process said item? It will not be them!
So removing daily problems, like where does your food come from and how do you make it, you still have major issues!

So the hu-scum require a number of slaves to “do” for them.
Lets say one for each. So 1000 slaves.

But you need to keep slaves in order.
So you need power.
Power comes from imposing fear.
So to keep the slaves in fear you need your army, but you cant bring your paid for army with you.
If you use full mind control then the slaves really are of minimal use.
A dilemma! What to do?

So lets say 1 security personal per hu-scum. Only using single men, so no need to bring their families, god ( or Satan) forbid.

What to do about this tricky tech stuff though?
Thats a problem. Ok you can force humans of intelligent minds to do as you say but they will at some point expire and you still need the systems to function.
You can clone people but you cannot instil concepts or new ideas, therefore you as a hu-scum end up wiping your own arse.

Was going to more and more into this but see no point.

If you think it through, it will not work and so is not functional and will not occur!

[Sammy]

Posted by StarSeed (here)
How can one know if there are negative entities leeching life force out of him? I think I might have an unwanted companion, of course it's just a guess. Is there any possible way to get rid of those energetic "vampires"?

Yes to both - go to this thread - full of suggested solutions -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ew-with-Maarit

justone

[Sammy]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)
Well, first off, I have to pull out anything Charles has said as unreliable. As I have said before, if you are listening to a known liar.

can you provide something to prove this? one instance of a lie that is provable and not conjecture or emotion based response?

I perceived Charles as an excellent resource but one must understand Charles was (and perhaps still is, if he is alive) quite internally conflicted... not knowing what "side" to remain on. But if you throw out Charles completely as well as anyone else who has potentially lied (knowingly or not), you throw out the babies with the bath water.

Discernment, court awareness, possibility based on probability - these are our guides

justoneman

[Sammy]

Posted by crested-duck (here)
One-Evil.Org is the first and only site to systematically chronicle the history of evil...
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Copyright © One-Evil.org 2011. All Rights Reserved

Clearly one of the best posts ever on this forum (or any)... Thank You Crested Duck.

[lake]

Posted by StarSeed (here)
How can one know if there are negative entities leeching life force out of him? I think I might have an unwanted companion, of course it's just a guess. Is there any possible way to get rid of those energetic "vampires"?

Ok you need to understand that you are required to give your freewill, implicit ok to any other being, of this plane or another, to "use" you.

More than likely this has been given by your thoughts.
You have a thought and believe this is of you, 60-70% of the words or feelings you think or you have are NOT of you!
But because you feel that they are then this can be used as an invitation to use you.
You need to know that your spirit and physical form are perfect and neither would ever make you feel less than excellent. Therefore, understand that there must be another presence wanting your beings to act or feel in a less than perfect manner!

And yes you can remove them.

[Sammy]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
If the elites thing there is no 'God' or realise we are all 'gods' and have the
power within all of us to change our reality it would explain why they are
playing 'God' to the majority of the population who do not realise we are
all 'gods'......

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFix7xIwrQg

Ion explaining ...God to James Martinez, Bob nevritt and Dr, Carolyn Dean.....Bob is a former
high up Intelligence operative and at 90yrs old is very alert.

http://informationfarm.blogspot.co.u...ho-is-god.html


Thread explaining my interpretation of some of the Ion material..
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...omozone-14-RNA

http://informationfarm.blogspot.co.u...ho-is-god.html

Ion explaining ...Jesus.

http://informationfarm.blogspot.co.u...-howionic.html

Governments, Intel Agencies, CEOs, the Entertainment Industry,
the Vatican are Listening to iON

http://informationfarm.blogspot.co.u...cies-ceos.html

many of your links do not work (been shut down) - I did go to the home page - is this part of the base on the moon?

http://informationfarm.blogspot.co.uk/

[Billy]

I have not had time to read through the whole of the OP. But i will repost my first gut feeling response i posted on the other thread.

Posted by billyji (here)

Hi Bill. Thank goodness there is more than one ship navigating the oceon of life, If the controllers have decided to abandon their ship, Mother earth is not the ship that is sinking, But the contollers inability to navigate on Mother Earth anymore, it will not be woman and children first, The sevice to self Captain will be first in this instance trying to save their own neck. Leaving their slave masters with no direction or to drown.

Maybe it will be up to ships that navigate with Mother Earth to rescue the drowning and assist them with the kiss of life

My ship is not sinking, Is anyone elses

Bon Voyage is all i can say.

Peace

Adding

Correct me if i am wrong but there seems to be no mention of Gaia's intentions in the OP. This living organic being has a say on who will be permitted to adventure on with her and who leaves. I repeat that the controllers are jumping ship because they can no longer navigate within the higher vibrational enegies that Gaia, the universe and thank goodness at long last, many within humanity are expressing at this time.

Do the pinhead controllers really believe that they are going to avoid the changes by going to the moon or mars. have they forgotten their history already. Have they forgotten how the moon and mars became how they are today. Lordy

peace

[Rocky_Shorz]

when I first saw the ingrediants of Chemtrails here at Avalon, I knew this is material that doesn't reflect inbound sun energy, it absorbs it...

what happens when it is floating n the atmosphere?

whenever you see a punch cloud, an anti-mater burst just happened...

3 Million without power...

you'd think they would take a hint...