From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Let also not forget the Anglo Saxon Agenda material and how it possibly fits into our evaluations of these possibilities.

[Iceberg]

Now we are on 2012 and we have another doomsday year 2017

And the story goes on and on...

[pie'n'eal]

A predication does not mean it is true.

Tony

[mattymoto]

First I want to thank you Bill for presenting this so quickly from your first mention of it.

The following are merely my opinions:

"Dutch" This man is telling it how he remembers it, no lies, no embellishment, nor any signs of willful deceit. IMO this one man may have given us a chance to know some truth.

"Victor" Scared and has a very big chip on his shoulder. This combination screams to me that his testimony is riddled with disinfo, but remember, testimony with some lies in it is still testimony. I believe his words lend some- no matter how small, creedence to your overall premise.

"Henry D." I wish he were here to participate in this discussion. He has always amazed me, and I'm sure we all could benefit from his knowledge and experience.

"Dan B." Works for the "man" and I have no doubt that he has always followed their orders. Such an elegant dispenser of disinfo sprinkled with truth.



Here is where I will give a sliver of what my ultra sensitivity has allowed me to see:

I see now why "they" are acting from such a position of fear.

This is most likely a part of their plan. To leave behind the Earth until a day when they may return and attempt to convince those who have survived that they are good ETs coming to save us.


My best guess is that the only timeline in question is the one we are on. There is no potential for this timeline or that one. This catastrophe is not going to be cosmic, it is an attack they plan to launch against the Earth and her inhabitants once they get to their cozy safespot. They know they can't keep the power that they have been usurping for the last 70+ years, and this is just their best plan to maintain their deathgrip. Once again they are scared, really scared of what will be done to them once humanity finds out what they have done to humanity.

[Amzer Zo]

Quite an entangle piece of yarn we've got here...

First of all, "they" is made up of of a number of competing groups and it seems that a few of those are practicing "Scorched Earth" policies. Particularly, my guess, the ones who have to leave for whatever reasons and therefore make it a living hell for the others not forced to leave.

Second, and I don't know how that articulates with the ones in charge of the human genome, there are a number of researchers (Steve Richards in particular) who noticed the decrease of ET abductions due to the the fact that those ETs now have enough hybrids for their project. However these hybrids are underground and it doesn't seem that they are intended for off planet shipping. That is, they are to replace the self-reproducing bodies being HPVed, GMOed, vaccined, chemtrailed, DUed, fluoridated, prozaced, EMFed/ELFed, etc... that are left on the surface.

This leads to the so-called "ascension" which is soul harvesting in disguise for the future occupants of these ready made hybrids with new contracts for the tenancy of these "wonderful new bodies."

My few cents.

[shadowstalker]

Something told me that the time lines where either lied about or not truly mentioned to DB I am not surprised about this at all, nor am i surprised about the possible end result, in fact I wrote a small theory mixed with other things in my blogger last bight, And have been doing what my spirit has told me, about a great many things, we really need to step up and start putting a positive twist to the possible end game coming our way..

[bearcow]

First of all, "they" is made up of of a number of competing groups

this is a excellent point to remember, the global elite are not a homogeneous, unified group of individuals, they have different motives, aims, ideology, etc. Some may be interested in leaving, some may be interested in staying.

some may only be interested in playing baseball










sorry couldn't resist

[Wind]

This is the time of harvest. I'm just excited.

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by mattymoto (here)
First I want to thank you Bill for presenting this so quickly from your first mention of it.

The following are merely my opinions:

"Dutch" This man is telling it how he remembers it, no lies, no embellishment, nor any signs of willful deceit. IMO this one man may have given us a chance to know some truth.

"Victor" Scared and has a very big chip on his shoulder. This combination screams to me that his testimony is riddled with disinfo, but remember, testimony with some lies in it is still testimony. I believe his words lend some- no matter how small, creedence to your overall premise.

"Henry D." I wish he were here to participate in this discussion. He has always amazed me, and I'm sure we all could benefit from his knowledge and experience.

"Dan B." Works for the "man" and I have no doubt that he has always followed their orders. Such an elegant dispenser of disinfo sprinkled with truth.



Here is where I will give a sliver of what my ultra sensitivity has allowed me to see:

I see now why "they" are acting from such a position of fear.

This is most likely a part of their plan. To leave behind the Earth until a day when they may return and attempt to convince those who have survived that they are good ETs coming to save us.


My best guess is that the only timeline in question is the one we are on. There is no potential for this timeline or that one. This catastrophe is not going to be cosmic, it is an attack they plan to launch against the Earth and her inhabitants once they get to their cozy safespot. They know they can't keep the power that they have been usurping for the last 70+ years, and this is just their best plan to maintain their deathgrip. Once again they are scared, really scared of what will be done to them once humanity finds out what they have done to humanity.

I don't think they are one bit scared. They are drunk on their power, they believe they are within a hairs grasp of total control of all people and governments on the planet and they are rolling out their plans in a perfectly orchestrated story of system change. The system works, they have done it for thousands of years, and we are about to have lots of our emotional buttons pushed to get us to abandon the old system and embrace eagerly the new one they have waiting. Man is easily manipulated and we are seeing it played out day by day. Something big is coming and most will react as the elite have planned.

[pie'n'eal]

If you want to talk about reality, instead of hypothesis, here goes.
What is being discussed here is a twisted version of reality.
These “things' have no reality!

What is important is Undeniable truth. We all Know.
Everyone has this quality of knowing, of being aware.

This is not the Knowing or being Aware of 'something',
it is just Awareness, just Knowing.
It's a sense of Knowing or Awareness of existing.

This Knowing, is pure, 'unfabricated.
This Pure Perception, is our true natural Being.

Our attention should be inwards to reality, and under our control.
What happens outwardly is not a reality, just a seeming reality.

Anything that diverts our attention outwardly is controlling us!
Whatever happens, Know thy self.

Tony

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
This leads to the so-called "ascension" which is soul harvesting in disguise for the future occupants of these ready made hybrids with new contracts for the tenancy of these "wonderful new bodies."

My few cents.

Those few cents are priceless my brother. Spot on.

[gripreaper]

My hypothesis, which I will add to the beginning of this thread, is that the elite fully maximize all timelines, and do not have control over which timeline plays out. So in this context it does not seem strange to me that there are conflicts in their agenda.

Suffice it to add, if viewed in the context of all of the history of this planet, I think they screwed up on the experiment, by copulating with the indigenous species of this planet, and hybridized an offshoot and gave them the ability to reproduce like rabbits, all of which is causing the inevitable outcome of the failure of the experiment.

In order to "reset" or "fix" the problem, the most likely timeline, or agenda, would be to exit the planet and eliminate 600 billion people and let them start over without their influence, whether this reset occurs due to natural cosmic occurrences, or is engineered by the psychopathic elite.

What is painfully obvious to me, is that the last 60 or 70 years the elite have pulled out all the stops, could care less about operating with any care or regard for the species or this planet, and don't much care that we have vetted them out and they are no longer a secret. They have placed into the cultural entertainment most of the clues about the different timelines, outcomes and agendas, for those with ears to hear and eyes to see.

Ultimately, the one caveat is our ability to generate, hold, and focus life force in such a way that we are able to access the same occult practices that the elite use and connect to, yet in a humane and empathic way, instead of a satanic psychopathic way. They have spent millenia destroying and wiping out the gnostic teachings and it is incumbent upon us to revive them.

Whether they leave or not, which I think is absolutely true, they DO intend to leave, we are left with this mess. We can fix it and survive, or we can perish. Our choice.

[justoneman]

Posted by SKAWF (here)
well, for some reason, even though ive read intently what you posted bill,
i'm not as enthusiastic to take on the accounts of others as fact.
especially a name or two in there which i dont know.

that said, it does resonate.

in the same way it did when i got into it last time.

true knowledge unifies..... simplifies things.

i believe that they believe they are gods.
i reckon they have been going at it like there's 'no tommorow' for about a decade now.
i accept that they use the absentee god justification
(even though your mum and dad arent there all the time, it doesnt mean they dont exist!)

i accept they have spaceships.
(i so very much want one)

i accept that mars is directly connected

to a point, i have no resistance to the idea of a massive experiment
but in all that, there are enough counter questions to stop the idea falling in of its own accord.
and its probably a bit complacent, but theres not enough immediate relevence for me to look further into it.

i spose a closing question would be

there's a difference between letting a place fall into disrepair
and actively going about smashing it up.
stuff like chemtrails are ongoing programs,
so when they stop the ongoing stuff....
it might be because they see no value in it.

at that point i would be watching for 'the big one'

if they know its coming to an end, and the have a way off.....
why keep up the subtlety?

I can see two groups - a super insider group that has a plan for leaving the planet. I can see a secondary group that may think they are the primary group. This secondary group is promised tickets to the underground facilities. They are needed to complete some of the work required by the primary group. Some within the secondary group may know of the primary group and there may be competition to be allowed in this primary group (thus retaining incentive amongst all within the secondary group). I am speaking in simplistic terms but the thought seems plausible.

Note - one of the purposes of the chemtrails may be in relation to thwarting some of the effects of a serious solar event perhaps? At least for those in the secondary group?

[pie'n'eal]

Ultimate Hypotheses does not make sense, this is an Ultimate Guess.
We are embodied beings. The bodies we have inhabited over countless
life time, have gone through much.

Things happen to these bodies and minds, but no-thing can touch us.
They keep wanting you to fear, do not let them.

Just be yourself!

Tony

[Chuck]

The kill shot has never been fully explained. It could be a solar flare ala Ed Dames or it could be an inter-galactic wave of charged particles heading our way. Either one is possible. We are heading into a solar maximum period where more CMEs and flares are expected. NASA has documented elevated amounts of cosmic energy bombarding our solar system. These potential events happening when our protective shields are diminished: the magnetosphere has been diminishing for several decades and the solar winds are weakening. If cosmic radiation were to increase, were to penetrate the heliopause in greater amounts, that it might ‘grease’ the inter planetary medium for easier solar flare and CME propagation during solar cycle 24 maximum.

If it is a solar flare, then short term underground or sheltering of some kind of a few days would all be that is required for protection. However a longer term cosmic radiation wave would be a totally different kettle of fish. A longer term shelter would be needed with re-inforced thick lead walls or even depleted uranium. Hold on… just happen to have one… lol

...add this edit....


just wanted to add that experiencing a bombardment of cosmic radiation would mostly likely be "a wall of light" as hinted here of what astronauts experience as flashes of light.

http://www.universetoday.com/94714/s...rays-in-space/

[pie'n'eal]

They are creating havoc with your minds.
If they keep stirring the pot (your mind)
you will not think straight and logically.

Do not react.

Look you are not going to be given the chance to press any shiny knobs on a flying-saucer and you?


You can only be where you are.

Tony

[gripreaper]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Quite an entangle piece of yarn we've got here...

First of all, "they" is made up of of a number of competing groups and it seems that a few of those are practicing "Scorched Earth" policies. Particularly, my guess, the ones who have to leave for whatever reasons and therefore make it a living hell for the others not forced to leave.

Second, and I don't know how that articulates with the ones in charge of the human genome, there are a number of researchers (Steve Richards in particular) who noticed the decrease of ET abductions due to the the fact that those ETs now have enough hybrids for their project. However these hybrids are underground and it doesn't seem that they are intended for off planet shipping. That is, they are to replace the self-reproducing bodies being HPVed, GMOed, vaccined, chemtrailed, DUed, fluoridated, prozaced, EMFed/ELFed, etc... that are left on the surface.

This leads to the so-called "ascension" which is soul harvesting in disguise for the future occupants of these ready made hybrids with new contracts for the tenancy of these "wonderful new bodies."

My few cents.

This is a definite possibility, that after the alleged event, the current human species will not be able to survive, and the new hybridized human that was developed through genetic experiments underground will have access to the surface and will be able to breathe in the new air and re-inhabit the planet.

[pie'n'eal]

We are controlled by three aspects in this universe: attraction, repulsion and inertia.
They equate to three poisons in the mind: hope, fear and ignorance.
Another translation is: desire, aversion and indifference.

That is how you are controlled.

Get free, by noticing what is going on!

Tony

[bearcow]

Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
We are controlled by three aspects in this universe: attraction, repulsion and inertia.
They equate to three poisons in the mind: hope, fear and ignorance.
Another translation is: desire, aversion and indifference.

That is how you are controlled.

Get free, by noticing what is going on!

Tony

all these momentum's must take their natural course of resolution.

it may not seem like the most direct route, but nature takes the path of least resistance.

this makes it more efficient than any doctrine.

this is the value in being part of this forum.

[Realeyes]

Dear Bill,

I thank you so much for taking the time to put up this post of information with all these links, I very much appreciate this.

I have paid attention to yours and Kerry’s work since you both formed Project Camelot, and I have grown (like so many others) whereby you gave the World the opportunity to look at so many of the secret ‘goings on’.

You both courageously brought hidden information out into the open; you allowed us individually to define and discern for ourselves what felt true or right for us, in our reality. This is truly a beautiful unconditional gift to share with humanity. I sincerely mean this; I admire both you and Kerry’s amazing courage and perseverance setting free what has been for too long hidden under the rug kept away from Humanity.

From what I have personally learnt from my own experiences, including amazing phenomena of two physical Time-slip/dimensional shifts, and my own unique spiritual walk, I have since arrived in a different place. I am not disagreeing with the information you have posted, it was very valid in its time. I suppose, in simple Terms, I see/know there is another Timeline.

Bill mentioned at the bottom of your post

“The way they MAY be able to intervene, without breaking cosmic protocol, is by incarnating as their experimental subjects -- i.e. us.”

I absolutely agree – it is 'US' – and this involves a NEW Timeline.

I have seen green fireballs being shot from a UFO helping to clean up our atmosphere. I have watched the strange, strange things going on close to our Sun these past years. What happened ‘around’ and ‘in’ the Sun on 11-13th March this year was mind-boggling!

‘Divine Intervention’ as I understand it, cannot interfere with individual Free Will.

YET, when a Planet reaches a level of planetary consciousness of ‘people demanding’ a better way to exist; desires to embrace peace and a spiritual path rather than run or partake in all these wars & fear; people who are now seeing all the corruptness and slavery they have inadvertently allowed with nothing to show for it – and hundreds of thousands have been shouting ‘NO MORE!’

Well such Planetary collective thoughts/desires/intents/protests are heard.

As I understand it, tipping point was reached last year – The ET/ED/PTW broke the 'golden rule' – that under Free Will you cannot suppress a ‘Planet of Souls’ who demands to KNOW and BEcome more of who they truly are.

Divine Intervention is here on many levels, I am not talking about ‘saving’ etc, rather this won’t be needed in a 3d way like that, this is unfolding differently. The ‘ground crew’ have been conscious energy drivers for this to happen. I personally feel it is important to hold the Light/energy/focus - psyops wants one to think it is all a psyops, tread wisely, all ‘boxes’ are covered.

This ‘Time’ (which is flexible) of Awakening, has been prophesied for eons. Tptw are not that powerful! Something BIGGER is happening.

I would like to confirm, I am not some half wit New Age love & lighter, Camelot helped me see the bigger picture. I am also not against ‘Survival’, I have been down the survival route, stock piled, meetings & communities, plans on undergrounds. There came a point 5 years into this that for myself, I had to define whether I knew/believed that I was an ‘Eternal Spirit’ OR was I a ‘mortal one lifer’ that all balled down to ‘survival of the fittest’ and needed to save my short-time sorry arse from a host of horrors?

I shared my story in another thread of how I broke through the ‘Grand Initiation’ of human ‘survival’ where my own perspectives greatly changed and broaden to the fact there is an even Bigger story – and it is Breath-taking , Wonderful and Evolutionary Spiritual. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...286#post514286

Thank you Bill again for your post and I do understand the importance. Thank you also to everyone else who has shared their views.

Tread Wisely and Mind-Full on your Unique Spiritual Earth Walk.