From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis

[Ilie Pandia]

I've pulled this quote from Kerry's blog:

Hi ______9:15 AM Mountain time, _______ and I were in the kitchen and we both noticed, the SUN momentarily blacked out as if something the size of the moon momentarily flew in-front of it. IT blacked out for about 100 milliseconds. I went outside to listen for any jets or check for clouds, there were no jet sounds, no clouds, perfectly deep blue sky, something we haven't had in many months.

1. There are thousands, if not millions of amateur astronomers. They are bound to notice any objects the side of the moon entering our solar system. There is no way to suppress this!

2. Sun blacked out for 100 milliseconds. That is 1/10th of a second. The average length of a blink of eye is 100-400 ms, so this alleged accuracy alone raises a lot of red flags. I could blink and black out the Sun for 100 milliseconds...

3. If an object the size of the Moon would pass through our system that fast that would blackout the Sun for 100 ms it would cause havoc on our Planet!

Given the 3 points above I cannot accept that quote as being true. It has way too many scientific problems, and frankly I'm surprised Kerry would post this on her blog.

PS: A correction, tracking objects at the edge of our solar system may be too far for the amateur astronomers, but they would definitely notice objects in Earth's orbit or close enough to block out the Sun.

[Rocky_Shorz]

wow just saw this post, there might be some truth to it...

Posted by papperkash (here)
Kerry Cassidy over at Project Camelot, is reporting that an object the size of the moon (a piloted object) is on it's way to earth, that whistleblowers have already been silenced, and that she has apparently recieved several confirmations.

See here...---> http://projectcamelotportal.com/inde...=31&Itemid=218

I suspect that her sources are misleading her, perhaps to discredit her work. It all sounds quite impossible.

Having said that, I never say never.

2012 was always going to be a year for big events:
1. Speculation is rampant regarding what will unfold at this years olympics, Cliff High believes that they have to use this time to enact a ritual as the powers that be, are desperate. Cliff claims, that without the ritual they would loose more power.
2. Rik Clay and Ian Crane believe that the powers that be are planning to stage an alien event.

For those two reasons combined, the timing of Kerry's claim is very interesting.

Bill, please start doing some video updates, it would be good to see you. If you agree click "Thanks"
xx

one? there are more than one object coming if they are heading towards us...

[Operator]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
PS: A correction, tracking objects at the edge of our solar system may be too far for the amateur astronomers, but they would definitely notice objects in Earth's orbit or close enough to block out the Sun.

Well, the storyline is already changing from a planetary body into a craft. Now we know from Stan Deyo how they can configure a large craft out of several (many) triangular crafts.
A thought I have keeps popping up: "What if there is a secretive (but white hats like) breakaway part that will attempt to black out (part of) the sun ?".

I know it may sound as a silly idea too but sometimes the ideas keep popping up just because they are true or to tease my appetite for out of the box solutions.

[zebowho]

I actually witnessed something similar a couple months ago (it was in the evening). I agree Ilie, I seriously doubt something flew in front of the sun, it was more like it flashed off, flickered. I even remember looking at the street lights to see if they turned on, they didn't. I asked everyone else when I got in the house if they noticed and they didn't so I just chalked it up to my own experience.

[Paul]

Posted by Carmody (here)
I've read all of that series of books by Joseph,and they do indeed spell a complex but convincing bit of a story. For those who have not read any of his works, the detail in the books, the back-stories, origins, sources, etc...is exemplary.

His latest in this series, one that ties it all together, is (have I listed this on the forum somewhere already?):

Saucers, Swastikas and Psyops: A History of A Breakaway Civilization: Hidden Aerospace Technologies and Psychological Operations

Yes, you have listed this book once before on the forum ... with a mention of it at Here and Now...What's Happening? (Post #16128)

[MorningSong]

Today I ran across the following article entitled "Surviving The Coming Mass Extinction" at Pakalert:

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/06...emocracy-depa/

Here is the VaticReport's disection of the same article:

http://vaticproject.blogspot.it/2012...ng-coming.html

Now my head is really getting messed with...who's right...who's wrong...hmmmmmmm.

Thanks to all for this fantastic thread!

OH! and another thing I wanted to mention...

At the first of the month, there was an announcement that the song "Survival" by the group MUSE had been chosen as the official song of the London Olympics. The Italian TV channel I was watching showed a part of a video (I'll assume it was the original done for this song) and it showed, in a cartoony-manga fashion, the Earth being bombarded by meteors and huge space ships taking off from spaceports (?) and yet lots of "normal" people panicking in the streets seeking refuge.... I did at the time try to find this video on the internet, with NO luck as all of the vidoes correlated to that song had already been "doctored" with the Olympic's historical review that is considered the "Official Olympic Theme".

To me, that "bad" video slip spoke volumes......

[Sirius White]

People keep debunking space craft and object not realizing the nature of most ET travel is not the way we perceive them! In other-words, huge objects with mass traveling across/space time, they FOLD in and out of space time! And are naturally invisible cloaked, the inter-dimensional ones by changing aspects of themselves (some say vibration, but I think it's more of a particle spin thing), a science we have no way of understanding by the mainstream model. To make things worse there are various vibrational "veils," some attempted to be made by artificial means that keep SEEING them out of our naked eye. I believe one film maker out there developed an infrared technique to "see them?" Our eyes are not sophisticated enough to pick them up even by telescope/satellite! Some satellites do have capability to see them but they are edited by never a straight answer. Craft from other beings, and yes, now even our government will NOT be seen unless they want to be seen or a malfunction happens. I have pictures of HUGE spacecraft over LA taken my family friends little kids on a field-trip. They took a picture of the sunset....NOTHING was there except for ocean, sun etc. When they looked at the camera later, and the digital pictures a GIANT, strange looking UFO (one that I've NEVER seen before) appeared, as well as a small scout craft.

So to people who think they can see stuff coming and going from earth, the moon, and in/around us- they are WRONG!!! They are only seen if they WANT to be seen, and/or there is a malfunction of some kind. I do not know the technology behind this, but I know even the mainstream MILITARY (not even the secret government) has recently developed ability to make for example, tanks invisible. How do I know this? I friend who works at a local company (which is a military R&D company, that works with l0ckheed martin, R@ythen, and greenh0use electrics) says they've figured it out, and he himself is one of the prodigies that worked on the tech. Another recent (very wealthy person) I met rented out his house to L0ckheed, and he found out they had a facility/office building here that is completely off the records, I as mind-blown when I heard this. As many of you know- these companies are highly involved with military and space program funding.

Debunking based on our mainstream model of science is like a monkey trying to understand engineering with a stick. He'll get some aspects but will come up inevitably confused.

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On the interview with Dutch:
Dutch knows what he's talking about in the tiny little bit of the puzzle piece he's been given.

What he doesn't know is that there is on-going trading going on with races from many different places, most of which are exploitative. The Grey's are indeed AI, but they are not from us in the future!!! SOME of them are....but think about this, why would the Grey's work with only the secret government and not with the mass people unless they didn't have an agenda to fulfill! Oh sure! Here's this impending doom...DON'T tell the people, but here is this tech, let us harvest some of your DNA for our future selves, and let us give you this tech to make you guys ultra powerful, build the DUMBS etc. If the Grey's are timetravellers of ourselves (as Dan also believes), why would they intervene so harshly and try to fulfill a TIMELINE that is FILLED with catastrophe/chaos/destruction??? They have an agenda and it is NOT in our best interests.....

People on the ïnside" are given lies just as much, even by the ET's themselves (yes, the ET's lied to them). There are also on-going trade going on with beings from elsewhere. Our space program is now sophisticated enough as well. Resources, by the way are not simply inert or inert soruces of fuel. They are biological wealth, that we have on this planet- in particular genetic material (part of the reason some of the starseeds are sometimes subject to both MILABS and ET abductions). They are interested in some of the lines that got mixed with earlier variations of themselves, as well as other things that we currently cannot fathom. Some are interested in DNA, so they can learn how to influence us better. Allies of Humanity has good info on this.

What Dutch was initiated on was the secret space program and contact with Grey's- he has not had much contact with others. Also, timelines have changed.....many times over, and time-lines are multi-dimensional, not set in stone. The ELITE know something is going to happen, and for some reason have been working like MAD to manifest the timeline with MASSIVE catastrophes. But consciousness of mankind is powerful- and those of us who are spiritually awakening to these facts have been STABILIZING the manifest reality that we call life. Do not forget the manipulation of people and proliferation of their ignorance is also based on the fact the Elite, and the true Illuminati who advise them know the power of human consciousness and collective mind. They understand that there have been timelines seen also of themselves losing power, being put in jail, of revolutions, and of enlightenment coming forth. While they prepare for the worst, they have also been trying to circumvent the worst- so you see they are in a catch 22. Not all of them want this horrible destruction- but most certainly they do not want to see humans be free and empowered on their own. The contracts they made with beings from elsewhere- also forbid them from releasing certain knowledge AND technology....the beings who gave the secret government technology gave it to the secret government for a reason. So that they can influence us THROUGH them, our policies, our outlook, and agendas so that we accept the alien presence, without us knowing, which enables them to exploit our energetic, physical and biological resources by us (and our governments) WILLINGLY agreeing (which is necessary to this sector of galaxy).

The "freedom fighters" are in a minority, both within and outside the government security programs- but we are a growing bunch. Especially now that many people have awoken to the truth of the ET agenda, as well as those who corroborate with them.

To someone like dutch, the above is satanic new age nonsense. Yes, a great deal of new age is WATERED DOWN- but there is nothing satanic about it. The Elite let you believe secret knowledge is evil so that you don't go and understand it for yourself. EVERYTHING is God consciousness, for we are created in its image. We as human beins create creality by the virtue of our intent, and collective thought-frame. Our reality changed when inter-time, inter-dimensional visitors came into our timeline and either willingly, or accidentally interacted with our own kind. When technology fell into our hands- something new began. But isn't it strange the seed was planted by the crash, then secrecy was sworn, the program was taken off official records and went black- and then the beings agreed to TTP (technology transfer program) to aid the secret government and space program? There is an agenda and we may not know exactly what it is, but it is there.

We have avoided catstrophes already, and other scenarios that the Elite have been planning for. Why do you think they are in such a hurry to claim your rights from you? Because the world is ending? Of course not!!! They know we have a chance for survival and they wanna acquire all the power, take our means to fight back before we wake the hell up! MK Ultra a couple neuroscience majors, hire some Marines, plant some newspaper clippings in their back pack right before UN treaty...you have emotionally (not thinking with their heads) centered people, oh and they got them off the internet!! We gotta censor that too!! They don't give a crap about the deficit because yea, the events coming our way- but also because they have to RUN IT ALL INTO THE GROUND before they can rebuild it the way they want! (which is, a unified global economy first, and then government later).

This David Wilcock nonsense about disclosure and intervention is CABAL-FED INTELLIGENCE. The whole "hippie aliens are taking out the DUMBS" is absolute nonsense!!!

Thank you dutch, for your PIECE of the puzzle- but I think there is alot more to the puzzle. BUT keep your belief in God inside of you....just because God exists doesn't mean aliens do not! How do you know the AI is not actually servants of another race who can't interact with us directly, either because of their dimensional anatomy, or their inability to actually be in this kind of density/gravity?? There actually is a prophecy by the Annunaki in an ancient essene zohar, known by the illuminati in which humans become practically synthetic in order to time travel, but how do we know, that time travelers themselves did not place that into our ancient manuscripts for the fulfillment of the agenda? hahaha apologies for the mind-screw.

The grey's infiltrated our MIC LONG AGO.....and the US military knows this now! There are many fights between factions. But the greatest weapon we have is CONSCIOUSNESS. AWARENESS. That's why so many of us have awakened not just the conspiratorial nature of reality- but also the spiritual one BEHIND it. Human minds change the stream of consciousness, time, space, and manifested product of our observer-ship simply by interacting with it- in particular at an UNCONSCIOUS level! Make the unconscious conscious- and you have the power of the Yogi's and ancient mystery school adepts. This is a GLOBAL initiation of first the few, the fractal leading edge, which will eventually encompass the whole of humanity. This is "spiritual intervention" that unfolds from WITHIN.

It is the Source of consciousness giving a choice to individuals who are ready to remember themselves at the very Core of who they are. Those who make the choice, will anchor various energies into their body (template/vessel) which in turn projects outwards by virtue of having changed their consciousness. SO being the change you want to see, is quite literally a real phenomenon that changes the very fabric of reality.

I only offer a small piece of the puzzle as well!
None of this David Wilcock, GFL, Satellite beamed nonsense

[Ilie Pandia]

I am not saying there are no cloacked spaceships operating outside my perception capabilities. I am just saying, with arguments, that the quote from Kerry's blog is non-sense, given my current understanding of gravity and large objects.

[Sirius White]

Thanks Panda I agree with you My comments were not aimed at you directly! I'm speaking VERY generally. Apologies for my passion as well. Recently all the patterns I am seeing have been really bothering me.

[Gemini]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Bumping this -- in particular the 1977 interview with a young Stan Deyo. Must see: it begins pretty much at the 59 minute mark.

I was completely transfixed. I'd never heard of this interview before -- it's very important indeed, and I'll be listening to it several times.

Your previous post reminded me of the interview. I had seen the video maybe 9 months ago and fortunately I could remember where I had bumped into it originally. I'm not familiar with Stan Deyo or his material otherwise, I just knew the interview was important.

[observer]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
I've read all of that series of books by Joseph,and they do indeed spell a complex but convincing bit of a story. For those who have not read any of his works, the detail in the books, the back-stories, origins, sources, etc...is exemplary.

His latest in this series, one that ties it all together, is (have I listed this on the forum somewhere already?):

Saucers, Swastikas and Psyops: A History of A Breakaway Civilization: Hidden Aerospace Technologies and Psychological Operations

Yes, you have listed this book once before on the forum ... with a mention of it at Here and Now...What's Happening? (Post #16128)

I too have read a good bit of Farrell's work. I'm currently reading, "Yahweh The Two-Faced God". All of his work is masterfully dovetailed into one cohesive understanding with seamlessly presented documentation.

I find the same sort of understanding in years of reading Jim Marrs.

The point to my earlier comment (#656), bringing-up a 'Breakaway Civilization' was to show that the evidence demonstrats how an hyperdimensional (extra-dimensional>>>outside of our 3D perception) control mechanism is in place here within this particular density.

This hyperdimensional control mechanism has always been at work - since the Dawn Of Man in our present form as Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

One must be willing to spend long hours investigating those researchers who are presenting this evidence, as I know Bill Ryan has done from his list of interviews.

This 'Mechanism of Control' functions through telepathically communicated thoughts. It has always worked in this fashion, through antiquity, into the Dark Ages, within our current history - from Theosophy to the Thule Society, up into the current time, with an abundance of 'channelers' of many different names.

The message has always been: "go back to sleep.... everything is going to be all right" - in one form or another. Humanity has bought-into this message in its myriad interpretations, from the beginning. This is the foundational reason for nothing ever getting any better.

The Global Elite think they are going to escape the havoc they have wracked onto this planet, as they very well might.... from the available evidence.

Eventually, at the end of the a$$-biting endless loop of birth-death-rebirth, one's eternal soul will either ascend out of this nightmare, or one's soul energies will be consumed by the controllers of this farming operation.

They are very clever at what they do....

[Amzer Zo]

Posted by Sirius White (here)
People keep debunking space craft and object not realizing the nature of most ET travel is not the way we perceive them!

[...]

I have pictures of HUGE spacecraft over LA taken my family friends little kids on a field-trip. They took a picture of the sunset....NOTHING was there except for ocean, sun etc. When they looked at the camera later, and the digital pictures a GIANT, strange looking UFO (one that I've NEVER seen before) appeared, as well as a small scout craft.

So to people who think they can see stuff coming and going from earth, the moon, and in/around us- they are WRONG!!!

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Personally, I wouldn't be so categorical... especially when someone believes taking a picture of a sunset and the digital pictures reveal unidentify hovering contraptions.

Here is why:

There is a little known fact about hypnosis that is illustrated by the following story:
A subject was told under hypnosis that when he was awakened he would be unable to see a third man in the room who, it was suggested to him, would have become invisible. All the "proper" suggestions to make this "true" were given, such as "you will NOT see so- and-so" etc... When the subject was awakened, lo and behold! the suggestions did NOT work.

Why? Because they went against his belief system. He did NOT believe that a person could become invisible.

So, another trial was made. The subject was hypnotized again and was told that the third man was leaving the room... that he had been called away on urgent business, and the scene of him getting on his coat and hat was described... the door was opened and shut to provide "sound effects," and then the subject was brought out of the trance.

Guess what happened?

He was UNABLE TO SEE the Third Man.

Why? Because his perceptions were modified according to his beliefs. Certain "censors" in his brain were activated in a manner that was acceptable to his ego survival instincts.

The ways and means that we ensure survival of the ego are established pretty early in life by our parental and societal programming. This conditioning determines what IS or is NOT possible; what we are "allowed" to believe in order to be accepted. We learn this first by learning what pleases our parents and then later we modify our belief based on what pleases our society - our peers - to believe.

Anyway, to return to our story, the Third Man went about the room picking things up and setting them down and doing all sorts of things to test the subject's awareness of his presence, and the subject became utterly hysterical at this "anomalous" activity! He could see objects moving through the air, doors opening and closing, but he could NOT see the SOURCE because he did not believe that there was another man in the room.

So, what are the implications of this factor of human consciousness? (By the way, this is also the reason why most therapy to stop bad habits does not work - they attempt to operate against a "belief system" that is imprinted in the subconscious that this or that habit is essential to survival.)

One of the first things we might observe is that everyone has a different set of beliefs based upon their social and familial conditioning, and that these beliefs determine how much of the OBJECTIVE reality anyone is able to access.

In the above story, the objective reality IS WHAT IT IS, whether it is truly objective, or only a consensus reality. In this story, there is clearly a big part of that reality that is inaccessable to the subject due to a perception censor which was activated by the suggestions of the hypnotist. That is to say, the subject has a strong belief, based upon his CHOICE as to who or what to believe - the hypnotist or his own, unfettered observations of reality. In this case, he has chosen to believe the hypnotist and not what he might be able to observe if he dispensed with the perception censor put in place by the hypnotist who activated his "belief center" - even if that activation was fraudulent.

And so it is with nearly all human beings: we believe the hypnotist - the "official culture" - and we are able, with preternatural cunning, to deny what is often right in front of our faces. And in the case of the hypnosis subject, he is entirely at the mercy of the "Invisible Man" because he chooses not to see him.



Now, reverse the above... and turn it into getting the individual to "see," "touch" or perceive something that ain't there... stage hypnotists always have a field day with those....

According to Truman Cash in his "Programming of a Planet" and "Eye of Ra" books, a large proportion of the planet's populaton is just maintained in such hypnotic trance, lifetimes after lifetimes.

Hypnosis isn't that far from mind control means and flipping 200 pages/second to let one's unconscious/subconscious sort it out in "dreams," "visions" or "intuitions" is a hell of a subliminal tool!

That was for one possibility.

Now for another angle on the subject:

Posted by chancy (here)
What I didn't see in the sky that makes it SO Important!

Hello Everyone:

In 1997 I was visiting my parents in Mesa, Arizona in the winter months. It was March 13, 1997. For those that live or have been to Mesa and surrounding area it's absolutely beautiful. This particular day my father was making fresh sqeezed orange juice. My mother was making toast. I was reading the paper at the kitchen table. ( I know I probably should have been doing breakfast of my parents but my folks said not to do anything while visiting. I tried to live their rules but must confess I did take to keeping the apartment neat and tidy while there. )

There was a large french door right beside the kitchen table looking out into the back yard. The sun was the only thing in the sky that morning since there wasn't a cloud in sight. It was approximately 9:30 AM and I was eating my toast and enjoying the freshed squeezed orange juice!

Something began to happen that I have never seen before and have never seen since. The ground began to shadow over outside and the apartment with the french doors blinds open began to get dark as if there was an eclipse taking place. I immediately went outside and looked up into the sky. The sky was a brilliant blue as normal but you couldn't see the sun. Something was between us and the sun. In fact it must have been massive because the shadow on the ground covered an enormous area.

What's so unusual about this is that where the sun was it was just blue sky. I yelled at my parents to come outside. I showed them was was so unusual. We all didn't understand what we were seeing as we were standing there looking up into the sky. We didn't understand because there was nothing but blue sky in the sky to look at. The sun was behind something but there was nothing there to see! After approximately 10 - 15 minutes the sun peaked out from whatever was blocking it's view from us as it passed. We couldn't see anything at all in the sky but blue sky. The only time we could tell something was in the sky was when the sun started to peak out from behind what was completely invisible into the skies blue color.
After leaving all of us bewildered since it was something none of us had ever seen before we were left with all questions and no answers.

For all of us it changed our lives in the sense that we now knew that objects of enormous size could be in the sky and could not be seen. There was no noise whatsoever. There was no wind at all that day. It was just another peaceful day in paradise for us since we live in a very cold climate and come to visit in the winter to get out of the cold weather. Makes the winter alot shorter!

The story isn't over yet since something of great significance took place over Phoenix that evening we saw on the news while watching tv that night. Apparently there was a massive ufo that was seen by tens of thousands of people in the sky. It hovered with no noise for a long period of time and slowly glided through the sky while people were gasping at this enormous object. Photos were taken of it and it created quite the sensation throughout the usa and whereever the news of this event was shown.

Everyone on the news had said it had just appeared. I say it was in the Phoenix area all day from at least when we didn't see anything but the sun behind some enormous object in the sky that morning that was completely invisible to us. Whatever it was it had the ability to blend into the sky without so much as a crack showing.

Since this took place I have always wondered what could have possibly covered the sky with such a huge shadow and block the sun for 10 - 15 minutes in complete silence. Whatever it was it had the ability to be completely invisible. Amazing to my parents and myself. It's one of lifes mysteries that I'll always wonder about!

This is my simple story of what I didn't see in the sky that makes it so important!

chancy

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Interesting observations Chancy,

Thanks to you, now we know that these things are physical enough to block sunlight and create shadows on the ground but that they have advanced chameleon's capabilities of camouflage.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
PS: A correction, tracking objects at the edge of our solar system may be too far for the amateur astronomers, but they would definitely notice objects in Earth's orbit or close enough to block out the Sun.

Well, the storyline is already changing from a planetary body into a craft. Now we know from Stan Deyo how they can configure a large craft out of several (many) triangular crafts.
A thought I have keeps popping up: "What if there is a secretive (but white hats like) breakaway part that will attempt to black out (part of) the sun ?".

I know it may sound as a silly idea too but sometimes the ideas keep popping up just because they are true or to tease my appetite for out of the box solutions.

for those who looked closely at the images I shared,

if you look close, you will see the side facing the sun is lit, that means it is sitting out by Stereo After... I was wondering if there might be circular satellites from China Russia, Iran... that have joined ours to help observe and give mirrored system info so a better chance of seeing what is happening...

but after glancing at the image of stereo A, it isn't that...

It has a metal look, can't explain how I know but the moment I saw it, it was a flash of recognition

are the 4 orbs our lifeboats to escape what is coming?

or are we hearing about the breakaway civilization now, for a heads up, we aren't all joining them...

or, are these the objects we've been watching with the ability to control the sun...

if they rush towards us, would that mean they can't stop an event?

something the size of earth, hollow with decks, trillions on board and room for more...

now, Mr X, our buddy that passed a few years back shared presidential info, he saw a memo that said we are coming in 2012... you have no choice...

life boats, a breakaway civilization, or incoming that needs a planet that will be joining us...

[araucaria]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
I am not saying there are no cloacked spaceships operating outside my perception capabilities. I am just saying, with arguments, that the quote from Kerry's blog is non-sense, given my current understanding of gravity and large objects.

Also, given the rarity of a natural total solar eclipse, that was extremely careless driving if they didn't want to be seen

[Carmody]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
After Tesla’s suppression, he expressed the truth about the universal electrical engineering model in these words:
"The Hertz wave theory of wireless transmission may be kept up for a while, but I do not hesitate to say that in a short time it will be recognized as one of the most remarkable and inexplicable aberrations of the scientific mind which has ever been recorded in history." [Nikola Tesla, "The True Wireless,” Electrical Experimenter, May 1919.]

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So again they got to Lorentz and had him “fix” it. In 1900 he taught the professors to arbitrarily integrate the entire energy flow vector itself (containing both the Poynting diverged component and the giant curled Heaviside component) around a closed surface assumed around any volume of interest. That very neatly separates and retains the diverged Poynting component, while discarding the giant curled Heaviside component. Lorentz also taught them that this component could “have no physical significance”, which is still the view today. E.g., quoting J. D. Jackson:

"...the Poynting vector is arbitrary to the extent that the curl of any vector field can be added to it. Such an added term can, however, have no physical consequences. Hence it is customary to make the specific choice …" [J. D. Jackson, Classical Electrodynamics, Second Edition, Wiley, 1975, p. 237].

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This second “fix” by Lorentz then finished Morgan’s suppression of the “new electrical engineering science” so that it would not contain asymmetrical Maxwellian systems nor would it contain Heaviside’s giant curled EM energy flow component.

With these changes, Morgan (using Lorentz’s services) deliberately crippled electrical engineering and electrical power systems for more than 100 years, and guaranteed that COP>1.0 and self-powering Maxwellian systems – permitted by nature and Maxwell’s original theory – would not be built by our electrical power engineers.

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And that cute little integration trick got added into EE also, so that all mention of the giant Heaviside curled energy flow component just disappeared from all textbooks, curricula, etc.

With the suppression of Tesla and the suppression of all “energy from the active spatial medium” systems from the Heaviside-Lorentz equations, Morgan’s suppression of those threats was complete.

J.P. Morgan paid to have Lorentz go out on tour..and to have every textbook he could reach replaced, free of charge..to remove all common and reachable (that he could reach) access to any form of the math in anything like it's original form. That is the other little tidbit. He owned the right publishing companies. He replaced school and academic texts, and that of libraries, universities, anywhere he could do it, he did it, free of charge.


Watching the video that Bill listed, regarding Stan Deyo, is illustrative of the conditions we're dealing with.

Academia and science, full of Freemasons, doing something akin to the right thing, as they can understand it.

However, human nature puts the 'snakes in suits', the ones with zero empathy... at the top of such systems, via infiltration. In any area where secrecy abounds, it is inevitable that the nasty parts of humanity, which run with no empathy or caring..that those elements which necessarily live in secrecy (sociopaths hide, that is their nature they learn to commit to, as a child)....that they would come together and take over or be the top most tier of anything that is held secret from the rest of humanity. This is a simple inevitable human psychological condition that will move relentlessly until it is in that state of finality, regarding a large hidden group.

[Andrew]

Thankyou Stan Deyo
Watch this lecture then the two examples of what he is talking about.

Lecture


Example 1

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb_GPrLoYDI

Example 2

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQweNf8KrTE

[noxon medem]

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& so
What about
The Ultimate Hypothesus
( or was it sis ..).

Be Well , Bill , and All .

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[Amzer Zo]

Posted by Carmody (here)
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However, human nature puts the 'snakes in suits', the ones with zero empathy... at the top of such systems, via infiltration. In any area where secrecy abounds, it is inevitable that the nasty parts of humanity, which run with no empathy or caring..that those elements which necessarily live in secrecy (sociopaths hide, that is their nature they learn to commit to, as a child)....that they would come together and take over or be the top most tier of anything that is held secret from the rest of humanity. This is a simple inevitable human psychological condition that will move relentlessly until it is in that state of finality, regarding a large hidden group.

Thanks for the added "bonus" of Lorentz's purge of textbooks while on J.P. Morgan payroll.

I couldn't agree more about the climb of the "snakes in suits" up the "social" ladder due to their inherent "abilities."

Makes this paper horribly and horrifyingly accurate:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
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Twilight Of The Psychopaths

by Dr. Kevin Barrett
Spanish version


“Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it.”
– John Lennon, before his murder by CIA mind-control subject Mark David Chapman

When Gandhi was asked his opinion of Western civilization he said it would be a good idea. But that oft-cited quote, is misleading, assuming as it does that civilization is an unmitigated blessing.

Civilized people, we are told, live peacefully and cooperatively with their fellows, sharing the necessary labour in order to obtain the leisure to develop arts and sciences. And while that would be a good idea, it is not a good description of what has been going on in the so-called advanced cultures during the past 8,000 years.

Civilization, as we know it, is largely the creation of psychopaths. All civilizations, our own included, have been based on slavery and “warfare.” Incidentally, the latter term is a euphemism for mass murder.

The prevailing recipe for civilization is simple:
1. Use lies and brainwashing to create an army of controlled, systematic mass murderers
2. Use that army to enslave large numbers of people (i.e. seize control of their labour power and its fruits)
3. Use that slave labour power to improve the brainwashing process (by using the economic surplus to employ scribes, priests, and PR men). Then go back to step one and repeat the process.


Psychopaths have played a disproportionate role in the development of civilization, because they are hard-wired to lie, kill, injure, and generally inflict great suffering on other humans without feeling any remorse. The inventor of civilization — the first tribal chieftain who successfully brainwashed an army of controlled mass murderers—was almost certainly a genetic psychopath.

Since that momentous discovery, psychopaths have enjoyed a significant advantage over non-psychopaths in the struggle for power in civilizational hierarchies — especially military hierarchies.

Military institutions are tailor-made for psychopathic killers. The 5% or so of human males who feel no remorse about killing their fellow human beings make the best soldiers. And the 95% who are extremely reluctant to kill make terrible soldiers — unless they are brainwashed with highly sophisticated modern techniques that turn them (temporarily it is hoped) into functional psychopaths.

In On Killing, Lt. Col. Dave Grossman has re-written military history, to highlight what other histories hide: The fact that military science is less about strategy and technology, than about overcoming the instinctive human reluctance to kill members of our own species.

The true “Revolution in Military Affairs” was not Donald Rumsfeld’s move to high-tech in 2001, but Brigadier Gen. S.L.A. Marshall’s discovery in the 1940s that only 15-20% of World War II soldiers along the line of fire would use their weapons:

“Those (80-85%) who did not fire did not run or hide (in many cases they were willing to risk great danger to rescue comrades, get ammunition, or run messages), but they simply would not fire their weapons at the enemy, even when faced with repeated waves of banzai charges”
(Grossman, p. 4).

Marshall’s discovery and subsequent research, proved that in all previous wars, a tiny minority of soldiers — the 5% who are natural-born psychopaths, and perhaps a few temporarily-insane imitators—did almost all the killing.

Normal men just went through the motions and, if at all possible, refused to take the life of an enemy soldier, even if that meant giving up their own. The implication: Wars are ritualized mass murders by psychopaths of non-psychopaths. (This cannot be good for humanity’s genetic endowment!)

Marshall’s work, brought a Copernican revolution to military science. In the past, everyone believed that the soldier willing to kill for his country was the (heroic) norm, while one who refused to fight was a (cowardly) aberration. The truth, as it turned out, was that the normative soldier hailed from the psychopathic five percent.

The sane majority, would rather die than fight.

The implication, too frightening for even the likes of Marshall and Grossman to fully digest, was that the norms for soldiers’ behavior in battle had been set by psychopaths. That meant that psychopaths were in control of the military as an institution.

Worse, it meant that psychopaths were in control of society’s perception of military affairs. Evidently, psychopaths exercised an enormous amount of power in seemingly sane, normal society.

How could that be?
In Political Ponerology, Andrzej Lobaczewski explains that clinical psychopaths enjoy advantages even in non-violent competitions to climb the ranks of social hierarchies. Because they can lie without remorse (and without the telltale physiological stress that is measured by lie detector tests) psychopaths can always say whatever is necessary to get what they want.

In court, for example, psychopaths can tell extreme bald-faced lies in a plausible manner, while their sane opponents are handicapped by an emotional predisposition to remain within hailing distance of the truth. Too often, the judge or jury imagines that the truth must be somewhere in the middle, and then issues decisions that benefit the psychopath. As with judges and juries, so too with those charged with decisions concerning who to promote and who not to promote in corporate, military and governmental hierarchies.

The result is that all hierarchies inevitably become top-heavy with psychopaths

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Continue here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...nerology08.htm
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Posted by Vivek (here)
Take this into account. Replace millenium hype with Mayans and 2012 . . .

The Stargate Conspiracy
[INDENT][INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]Revealing the truth behind extraterrestrial contact, military intelligence and the mysteries of Ancient Egypt

The Stargate Conspiracy exposes the most insidious, disturbing - and successful - mass manipulation of our times. Designed to bring us, hearts, minds and souls under the total control of the conspirators, this sinister programme has ruthlessly exploited our Millennial craving for signs and wonders - even hijacking the predicted return of the ancient gods. The Conspiracy...

Is left unrevealed. You just claim its a conspiracy, without actually going in a lot of detail about it.

If we go about it this way, then none of the things discussed here is true.

Posted by Vivek (here)

Hitler was a medium, a first rate medium. He has become possessed during spiritistic seances. It is then that he became seized by crises which were thought to be epileptic. Actually thy were not, they were crises of possession,' told the Mother to the youth of the ashram... 'It was therefore that he had that kind of power, which in fact was not very great. But when he wanted to know something from that Power, he went to his castle (Berghof) to "meditate", and there he addressed a very intense appeal to what he called his "god", his supreme god, who was the Lord of the Nations...

Hitler and the Nazi's were contacted by beings from the Aldebaran system. The 'Bell Project' was one of the first blueprints they gave the Nazis to do.