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    Question 'God Particle' found - aka 'Higgs Boson Particle'



    God particle is 'found': Scientists at Cern expected to announce on Wednesday Higgs boson particle has been discovered


    • Scientists 'will say they are 99.99% certain' the particle has been found
    • Leading physicists have been invited to event - sparking speculation that Higgs boson particle has been found
    • 'God Particle' gives particles that make up atoms their mass
    • Fermi Lab in Chicago also 'closing in' on proof of Higgs boson
    By Rob Cooper

    Scientists at Cern will announce that the elusive Higgs boson 'God Particle' has been found at a press conference next week, it is believed.Five leading theoretical physicists have been invited to the event on Wednesday - sparking speculation that the particle has been discovered.
    Scientists at the Large Hadron Collider are expected to say they are 99.99 per cent certain it has been found - which is known as 'four sigma' level.


    The particle accelerator: It is within these tubes that physicists are hunting for the 'God' particle

    Physicists first predicted that the Higgs Boson subatomic particle exists 48 years ago.

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    Peter Higgs, the Edinburgh University emeritus professor of physics that the particle is named after, is among those who have been called to the press conference in Switzerland.


    Invite: Peter Higgs, the professor the particle is named after, has been asked to attend the press conference at Cern



    The management at Cern want the two teams of scientists to reach the 'five sigma' level of certainty with their results - so they are 99.99995 per cent sure - such is the significance of the results.
    Tom Kibble, 79, the emeritus professor of physics at Imperial College London, has also been invited but is unable to attend.
    He told the Sunday Times: 'My guess is that is must be a pretty positive result for them to be asking us out there.'

    The Higgs boson is regarded as the key to understanding the universe. Physicists say its job is to give the particles that make up atoms their mass.
    Without this mass, these particles would zip though the cosmos at the speed of light, unable to bind together to form the atoms that make up everything in the universe, from planets to people.
    The collider, housed in an 18-mile tunnel buried deep underground near the French-Swiss border, smashes beams of protons – sub-atomic particles – together at close to the speed of light, recreating the conditions that existed a fraction of a second after the Big Bang.

    If the physicists’ theory is correct, a few Higgs bosons should be created in every trillion collisions, before rapidly decaying.


    An aerial view of the Swiss-French border, indicating the route of the Large Hadron Collider
    This decay would leave behind a ‘footprint’ that would show up as a bump in their graphs.
    However, despite 1,600 trillion collisions being created in the tunnel - there have been fewer than 300 potential Higgs particles.

    Now it is thought that two separate teams of scientists, who run independent experiments in secret from each other, have both uncovered evidence of the particle.

    However, the two groups, CMS and ATLAS, are expected to stop short of confirming its existence.
    AMERICAN ACCELERATOR ALSO FINDS EVIDENCE FOR HIGGS BOSON


    Physicists at a U.S. laboratory say are also close to proving the existence of the Higgs boson.
    The announcement by the Fermi National Accelerator Lab outside Chicago came two days before physicists at CERN are set to unveil their own findings in the Higgs hunt.
    The Fermilab scientists found hints of the Higgs in the debris from trillions of collisions between beams of protons and anti-protons over 10 years at the lab's now-shuttered Tevatron accelerator.
    But the evidence still fell short of the scientific threshold for proof of the discovery of the particle, they said, in that the same collision debris hinting at the existence of the Higgs could also come from other subatomic particles.
    'This is the best answer that is out there at the moment,' said physicist Rob Roser of Fermilab, which is run by the U.S. Department of Energy. 'The Tevatron data strongly point toward the existence of the Higgs boson, but it will take results from the experiments at the Large Hadron Collider in Europe to establish a firm discovery.'
    Physicists not connected to Fermilab expressed cautious optimism that the long-sought particle had finally been found.
    'These intriguing hints from the Tevatron appear to support the results from the LHC shown at CERN in December,' said Dan Tovey, professor of particle physics at the University of Sheffield in Britain.

    'The results are particularly important because they use a completely different and complementary way of searching for the Higgs boson. This gives us more confidence that what we are seeing is really evidence of new physics rather than just a statistical fluke,' Tovey added.

    Tovey said scientists will have to wait until Wednesday for the latest results from the European scientists before 'getting the full picture' concerning the Higgs boson.






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    Default Re: 'God Particle' found - aka 'Higgs Boson Particle'

    How do 'they' define God?

    All that machinery for religious purposes....pull the other one!

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    Default Re: 'God Particle' found - aka 'Higgs Boson Particle'

    This is actually very big news for the scientific community

    Live stream, they are giving a 175 slide presentation about the Higgs Boson: http://webcast.web.cern.ch/webcast/play_higgs.html
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    Default Re: 'God Particle' found - aka 'Higgs Boson Particle'

    Quote Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
    How do 'they' define God?

    All that machinery for religious purposes....pull the other one!
    Hi,

    It has nothing to do with a god / omnipotent being.

    It came from the particle being elusive, hence the curse, "goddamn particle".
    By all accounts it was th msm & Co who corrupted the original saying to make it mean more or less.
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    Default Re: 'God Particle' found - aka 'Higgs Boson Particle'

    OK.
    So where do they go from here ?

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    Default Re: 'God Particle' found - aka 'Higgs Boson Particle'

    I always thought they called it "God particle" because it gives mass to atoms particles, hence the "creation" factor...
    I guess that to people who believe in the Universe being created by God, the closest thing they can now get to is that maybe this was what God had to work with. Mass has to come from somewhere, to our logical understanding, so now that scientists say they know where it comes from, I'm really curious in the HOW does it really work... My guess, energy harnested from other dimensions

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    Default Re: 'God Particle' found - aka 'Higgs Boson Particle'

    Without getting into a debate about what to call the actual particle itself, "the god particle" is merely a term coined by the media to make it appealing and intriguing. Most scientists abhor this term.
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    Default Re: 'God Particle' found - aka 'Higgs Boson Particle'

    Hmm...

    Quote However, despite 1,600 trillion collisions being created in the tunnel - there have been fewer than 300 potential Higgs particles.
    Q - If I said to you you have a million seconds to live, how long is that ?
    A - A bit over eleven and a half days.

    Q - If I said to you you have a billion seconds to live, how long is that?
    A - A bit over 31 years.

    Q - If I said you have a trillion seconds to live, how long is that?
    A - About 31,688 years

    If the LHC at CERN came online Friday the 20 November 2009 then it has been operational for this type of experiment for a mere thirty months.

    Lets see now thats 1600 trillion collisions achievd in thirty months, is it just me or does anyone else here have a problem with how that stacks up??

    PS As a complete aside I have found the above Q & A process very useful in getting those whose strong suite is not math to comprehend the meaning of the number$ that $eem to roll $o ea$ily of the tounge$ of of politician$ and the chaterrati cla$$ when di$cu$$ing national debt.
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    Default Re: 'God Particle' found - aka 'Higgs Boson Particle'

    I have always found something quite occult like and fascinating about the LHC and I have always had a good feeling about it, I have a lot of synchronicity about the timing of this announcement.

    its circular shape reminds me of the Ouroboros, and indeed as we move out of linear time things do seem to go in circles or a spiral, things definately go around in circles on this forum


    It's inner workings remind me of the Iching




    It is interesting to note the statue outside CERN is a dancing shiva, I could go on all day about this but recommended reading is the Tao of Physics by Fritjof Capra.


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    Default Re: 'God Particle' found - aka 'Higgs Boson Particle'

    Quote Posted by Mad Hatter (here)
    Hmm...

    Quote However, despite 1,600 trillion collisions being created in the tunnel - there have been fewer than 300 potential Higgs particles.
    [....snip]

    Let's see now that's 1600 trillion collisions achieved in thirty months, is it just me or does anyone else here have a problem with how that stacks up??
    The numbers will never "stack-up" even if you extrapolate out to quadrillions of experiments, Mad Hatter.

    The problem with funding all of this Einsteinian Physics is that it is all a ruse.... it's all a function of the Oxford Template of Learning.... it's all just 'theory', and speculation.

    Funding these types of experiments and feeding these well paid physicists is just another function of keeping the Mass of Humanity in a position of financial servitude.

    Until cosmologists realize we live in an Electric Universe, the understanding of any sort of "God Particle" will never be realized.

    [also visit: http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/]

    The fact of the matter is, at the center of every structure in this particular universe there is an electromagnetic dipole. This includes every structure from the basic hydrogen atom to the structure of the galaxies.

    There is an electromagnetic dipole at the center of all structure.

    The fact that the nucleus of what Einsteinian Physicists call an atom is a dipole generating both a positive and negative charge out of the active vacuum is what holds our universe together.

    Electromagnetic dipoles.... this is the true meaning of a "God Particle".
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    Quote Posted by pie'n'eal (here)
    How do 'they' define God?

    All that machinery for religious purposes....pull the other one!
    Hey Tony,

    According to CERN, the term was coined for Leon Lederman's popular science book on particle physics: “The God Particle: If the Universe Is the Answer, What Is the Question?”

    source: http://cdsweb.cern.ch/journal/CERNBu.../1459456?ln=en

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    Quote Posted by observer (here)
    There is an electromagnetic dipole at the center of all structure.
    But if this is admitted it would open the door to pre cursor engineering of this 4D reality and we couldn't have that now could we...

    This is not the path of enquiry you should seek for a Star Trek replicator. Moving right along...

    As an aside do we have a dollar figure of the cost of this, oh so important, 'discovery' to compare to the UN figures for ending world starvation which IIRC pans out to $195 billion a year??

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    Quote Posted by Mad Hatter (here)
    [....snip]

    As an aside do we have a dollar figure of the cost of this, oh so important, 'discovery' to compare to the UN figures for ending world starvation which IIRC pans out to $195 billion a year??
    The way I see it M-H, it all 'stacks-up' to one more obscene gesture toward any compassion for the Mass of Humanity.
    • How dare any individual think he has the right to "recreate any sort of Big Bang" regardless of the size of such an experiment, or the validity of such a Big Bang occurrence in the first place?
    • Who gave these individuals the right to play God with such wanton abandon?
    • As you already pointed-out, the cost of this experiment could easily feed the starving Masses.

    This experiment is all about the elite mind-set of Shock and Awe.

    There is really no difference between what these few elite are doing in the face of all compassion for Humanity than what the Templar did at Maarat al-Numaan in the year 1098.

    These self important elite might just as well be eating the flesh of dead babies in the view of those infant's mothers....

    There is really no difference in the obscenity to this mind-set.

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    Default Re: 'God Particle' found - aka 'Higgs Boson Particle'

    No mention of the effect of consciousness, same old same old. The "answers" always lie without, not within.

    Can you tell I'm not impressed?

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    all this talk about the God particle is so exciting it's given me a hadron
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    Impressive, they've 'found another illusion'... Happy 4th of July!

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    Default Re: 'God Particle' found - aka 'Higgs Boson Particle'

    It would seem that National Geographic has found
    The Higgs Boson.

    can Mods please merge these threads

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    After all that they found it down the back of the sofa covered in fluff.

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