Michelle to Barack Obama: "All This for a 'DAMN' Flag"..!

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by goinghome2012 (here)
unified serenity

stop spreading separation and promote unity consciousness, like your forum name

all we need is one flag, the rainbow flag of unconditional love, unity and peace

let's take all the other flags and burn them, transcend them, and embrace the cosmic energies of oneness, unification, equality, cooperation, unconditional love, joy, peace, universal mind

spread the consciousness of unity and love, bye bye polarity, bye bye 3 dimension hello 4th dimension of positive unity thought + love = manifestation = heaven on Earth

Oh, we will have unity, one flag, one king, one faith, and a beautiful world, but it won't be by man's doing. I know Divine unity and how we are all part of the creator, but we are also individuals here in kindergarten learning a few truths. Some of us learn them faster than others.

[jackovesk]

Posted by Levent tonga (here)

Posted by Robert J. Niewiadomski (here)
Jackovesk,

Do you have full awareness of the circumstances in regard of her silent rant? Or do you assume she refers to the celebrations in general?

What if the couple had a fight early in the morning. And her rant was a comment to it. And Barack's head nodding was something like: "Yeah... yeah you are right. Bug off..." like when you are weary of fighting and want someone to just stop bugging you and leave you alone. Huh?

Please let us stop dividing ourselves. There is no we or they. There is only us.
"United we stand, divided we fall"

Be patient There is Eternity waiting for us...

Thank you ROBERT,
If her leap talking translation exacts as is assumed , I would love her.
JOCOVESK is still there. Being stocked at I /we dilemma .FLAGS, RELIGIONS, LANGUAGES, CULTURAL ES are dividing and conflicting humanity.
Do not kill or still for those things.
Love and Peace for all [not for only Americans ]

Hey Robert J. Niewiadomski & Levent tonga, don't you just love it when others assume what others are trying to say..?

...and don't ya just love it when they share (Their Opinion) of someone else without looking at what that person is trying to say or trying to get accross..?

i.e. Putting Words in Someone Elses Mouth..!

I will have to stand up for myself here and say...

"At Least when I get into a Debate, I try to Open up the Forum to what each side is trying to say and then offer a summary based on plain old 'Commonsense'...

Now if both of you would do me the courtesy of actually reading what I have to say in my posts thus far, only then can we have a 'Real Debate'...

[nearing]

Jacko:

"Hey Robert J. Niewiadomski & Levent tonga, don't you just love it when others assume what others are trying to say..?"

Exactly what you are doing to M. Obama.

Cripes, this is getting really silly now. The whole divide and conquer thing works as well on this forum as it does in the world at large - sad!.

Can't we let this go already!!!?

[kcbc2010]

While I agree with goinghome2012, there are going to be a lot of bruised egos until we get to the point where people realize that the world isn't going to end if we have only one flag.

A lot of people are very invested in the symbols of their countries....but times that by 1000% and you've got what goes on here in the US. After 9-11, the flag became a lot more important than it was before - especially when GWB did his speech at the bombed out trade center site. Remember how it used to be a big deal if someone wasn't wearing their "flag" pins to show their support for the troops/country. I go to political meetings/events all the time - everyone, it seems, get decked out in their red,white and blue. It's really quite odd, now that I'm really thinking about it. I've always thought of it as a bit goofy because I tend to be a "I'll wear what I want" kinda gal, but it's just another way that these colors and symbols infiltrate people's minds. Reinforces belief systems, etc......

People are emotionally invested in these symbols - and have been fed years of propaganda telling them that these represent everything that they love and cherish and they are the defenders of the free world and all that is righteous.....(ok, slight exaggeration there at the end, but too far off from the truth)

I'm not saying that it's right, but I also realize that I could live without my flag if I really had to. That isn't going to change what's inside my soul. On the other hand, a lot of people have never had a reason to question what they were doing. Rituals/symbols matter to people. I have to admit, I had a hard time saying the pledge the last time I was at a mtg, but I also was a lot more conscious of what I was doing. I also noticed the people around me didn't seem sincere about what they were doing to honor their country. As a result, I have mixed feelings about the whole thing.

Also,I just can't help but laugh every time I see the "hammer/sickle" flag. Years ago, I was watching Fox and up pops these happy Iraqis waving their communist flags. It took them awhile to figure out that they were showing happy communists, and they finally stopped showing the footage after someone clued them into the video they were broadcasting. Now, when I think of Fox I tend to think of those crazy kids jumping around and waving their communist flags and Fox not having enough sense to know what they were broadcasting. (I also have other associations, but they are typical/boring compared to the happy communists) hehe

I tend to agree with Nickolai in that we really need to stop thinking of the world in "-ism's". Nothing's as clear cut as we want it to be. Labels are helpful, but they also distract from the fact that we are still individuals with unique dreams/goals.

I think that's what scares a lot of people when talking about "One World". It isn't so much that we would all be united as people, but people fear a loss of individuality. (And a lot of Americans pride themselves on being individuals, not part of a collective. That's such a fundamental thing to the America psyche, it's really hard to imagine that part of ourselves not being important). My mind hurts just thinking about it (being sleepy really isn't helping) because "U being U" is such a big deal. And what are U if U is now part of a much larger WE? Do U even matter?

[Unified Serenity]

Wow, a lil observation goes a long way to upset some of you. What ever happened to allowing people to say what they think and share their hearts? Some of us see things differently, and trying to stop the conversation only continues the power struggle. I believe many of you also believe we have to embrace the darkness within to become whole. Well, observing things, saying truth as we see it is all part of that.

Allowing others their say is a sign of maturity spiritually speaking, and agreeing to disagree with respect is as well.

[jackovesk]

Posted by nearing (here)
Jacko:

"Hey Robert J. Niewiadomski & Levent tonga, don't you just love it when others assume what others are trying to say..?"

Exactly what you are doing to M. Obama.

Cripes, this is getting really silly now. The whole divide and conquer thing works as well on this forum as it does in the world at large - sad!.

Can't we let this go already!!!?

You just proved my point...

Whatever happened to Debate & Discuss..?

Absolutely Pathetic...

[SKIBADABOMSKI]

Wow !! look at this thread....


"all this for a dam flag"

[Sierra]

Posted by LarryC (here)
Capitalism and communism are two sides to the same coin. They were funded by the same bankers. They both worship the model of materialism and industrialism that overtook the world in the 19th Century. I agree that conservative Americans are brainwashed to react against the very word "communism," and have been since the 50s. However, I'm not ready to say that people like Mao and Stalin were heroes. No doubt in communist countries there is a similar anti-capitalist form of brainwashing going on -at least what's left of communism. Now it seems to be militant Islam that's playing the primary anti-American role in the ongoing dialectic that tries to force us to take sides.

If you dig a little, you'll find that many forces within the Western world helped to prop up radical Islam, just as they did Communism. Any kind of ideology is brainwashing, including the belief that a particular ideology is the root of all evil in the world. Now some clever person could say I'm contradicting myself, that this is an ideology in itself. Perhaps, but we can still try to come up with belief systems that are relatively free of indoctrination, or what Robert Anton Wilson called reality tunnels.

Yup. We installed the leaders of Iraq, Libya, Iran (the Shah, dreadful torturer), South Vietnam, I think we messed with Indonesia in the 60s or 70s, that drug runner leader of Nicaragua (gosh we are hard on our puppets!) was one of ours, and I am sure you could come up with a few more. It is all one world government, and both U.S. political parties are controlled by the same people, who rotate in and out of office. There is no difference, despite the polarized branding.

My point was I don't believe what the U.S. media says about any country now. It is all brainwashing, to produce internal and external "enemies" to focus upon, rather than the welfare of humanity.

[TelosianEmbrace]

Now, a circular flag, that's what I'd like to see. Or maybe a three dimensional circular flag that changes colour if you look at it from a different angle. A glow in the dark flag.

Better still, no more flags to divide us. No more corporate logos. No more secret signs and symbols. Nothing but sacred geometry, divine harmony and a blissful and content Mother Earth to shower us with Her abundance.

But no, we have to talk around in circles about something that is really quite silly and superfluous.

[Unified Serenity]

Yes, the great brotherhood of equality. Someone once wrote a book about that called "Animal Farm". Someone else really tried it hard and they were called the Soviet Union. Yes, where all were equal, no religion allowed, no differences, no haves and have nots. Well, except for some were more equal than others, and some got sent to the gulag for asking a question or thinking critically, or was it just thinking? Some killed 70 million of their fellow equals. Yes, pretending we are all one and that by removing stupid things like National identity, money, religion will bring us piece is a pipe dream in our present condition. Man's heart is exceedingly wicked, reprobate, greedy, selfish, and violent. We might make it one day by the grace of God/dess, but today, well let's just say, we aren't the sharpest tools in the shed yet.

Oh, and as an afterthought, Michelle Obama has not shown a deeply spiritual side. Her comment which I do believe was about the flag was not the discussion we are having. She has disdain for her country. Why, it was only 3 years ago that she said "For the first time I am proud of my country". So, she has loathed this country, it's people, well the white people and the fat people. She said she hates fat people from what I recall. So, I think the issue for me, is when I look for a President and a First lady, I want to know they love my country and it's heritage, and do not exhibit disdain and loathing and feel they need to apologize around the world for all of our failings, and kneel bow and kiss the a$$ of every mulah, queen, and sheik they meet.

[VirgoSun79]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by GCS1103 (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Lifebringer (here)

I will continue to pray to God for you to begin to understand that this President has done nothing against the country or people, but is trying his best, to make it safe and right for when we pass the torch of freedom in their future.

Me too.....

I couldn't agree more

I can't breathe LOL!!

[Unified Serenity]

I think this applies regarding the questioning of who the Obama's are for and my comment regarding what I look for in a President and First Lady:

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo78qm8k2LY

[ghostrider]

remember her statement when they were first elected, ( For the first time in my life I'm proud of my country.) she is only proud when she and hubby are in charge. they are doing so much damage to america , the masses don't get it. No matter what statement she made in the video , they are arrogant, ego driven , maniacs that think if the world will just do what they say , we won't have any problems. Change the ocuppants of the white house , America is still the same, they don't run anything, they just say what they are told , JFk was a reminder to future presidents do what you are told or we will take you for a ride with the top down. Then her next kick was to tell you what to feed your children, like adults don't know what to feed their own kids, that kind of $#^! makes me furious ! I wonder how we lived this long without osama I mean obama and know it all to tell us what to do.

[ghostrider]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by goinghome2012 (here)
unified serenity

stop spreading separation and promote unity consciousness, like your forum name

all we need is one flag, the rainbow flag of unconditional love, unity and peace

let's take all the other flags and burn them, transcend them, and embrace the cosmic energies of oneness, unification, equality, cooperation, unconditional love, joy, peace, universal mind

spread the consciousness of unity and love, bye bye polarity, bye bye 3 dimension hello 4th dimension of positive unity thought + love = manifestation = heaven on Earth

Oh, we will have unity, one flag, one king, one faith, and a beautiful world, but it won't be by man's doing. I know Divine unity and how we are all part of the creator, but we are also individuals here in kindergarten learning a few truths. Some of us learn them faster than others.

you tgo girl , you been on a roll lately !

[Humble Janitor]

*Yawn*

Where's that video of Bush calling that reporter an asshole? What about Cheney's diss of Leahy?

My point being, presidents and their wives say stupid **** all the time.

It's the perfect distraction for Avalon though!

Nevermind the search for the truth, it's a video of Obama and his wife dissing flag-waving sycophants.

[Lost Soul]

Posted by GCS1103 (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Lifebringer (here)

I will continue to pray to God for you to begin to understand that this President has done nothing against the country or people, but is trying his best, to make it safe and right for when we pass the torch of freedom in their future.

Me too.....

Agree. Too much Kool Aid.

[Unified Serenity]

Yes, Obama has a dream from his father:

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfLsSg9wZlE

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This trailer was great:

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G1OT5gzb48

[Unified Serenity]

What do we really know about Obama, his past, his life because it's all kept hidden. This is a great speech by Mr. Dinesh D'Souza at CPAC:

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juGoLKZjPQU

The above clips are a new movie coming out apparently. Observations and questions brought forward by D'Souza are very important. What will America look like in 2016 if Obama has a second term?

[DouglasDanger]

Jacko............We know there is no "I" in team

But there is an "M" and an "E" (me!)

Sierra..... I love you... Olive Juice...

Elephant Shoe!

" Larry and Moe", All for one!!. One for All!. "The Great Curley" .... I for Myself!...

This is a place for all discussions, I don't agree on every one of them, I have Boo'd one.. called "Bad Form" on another, it's my opinion, which is what I do like about this place. You get educated responces, you get uneducated ones, but you get discussion! Everyone gets disgruntled on off days and questions why they are here/ questions others why they are here and thier motives. We are all on the same planet enduring the same chaos of truth and fiction... I have come to expect no less and I

expect the unexpected

If it realy is what she said "all this for a Effin' flag" she realy has no heart.. Obama does not deserve a second term anyway, he was a firework that fizzled, his flare is gone.. But he did bring change to America.
He changed it from classic restorable Mustang/Charger/Firebird, into a piece of crapola rusted out Pinto about to explode if hit to hard.. Either way her frame is rotten to the core and the Paint/body code and type (constitution) is fading quickly.. the hard work needs to start now or she'll only be good for crushing melting down and forming new from..

[dreamer]

Posted by Lifebringer (here)
Jack, time to check yourself, you are getting really desperate now. Absolutely ludicris to reach so far beyond reason. Be careful you don't reach too far, once you go over the line, it's hard to get your mind back. Seems you have a hidden agenda against this president and I really don't feel you have his best interest for this country and it's citizens, at heart for peace. Divisive drivel deserves to be in Drudge, not a spiritual site in search of the "truth."

I will continue to pray to God for you to begin to understand that this President has done nothing against the country or people, but is trying his best, to make it safe and right for when we pass the torch of freedom in their future. Truth must be told to enable them to make valid solutions. This is not the truth. Some right-wing leaning teacher? Where do you get this stuff of doubt Jack?

Holy crap , just started reading this thread... and have to stop here for a sec, what an attack, talk about dividing. who do you think you are!?'?!? What do you think Avalon is!?!? You are poorly informed obviously, or you are sent here to divide and fracture our community. oh my...
I better stop now before I get to the Obama comment... ( insert little face with head exploding here )... oh my...