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    That's not a good reason not to do it. No more than deciding to keep emptying one's wallet on empty rituals at Christmas because no one is else is doing it.

    That is a conformity program. One immediately goes right back into ptb programming 'I'm without singular value, I'm impotent without a herd."

    We don't know our own programming; we can't see our own ****.

    So I'm going to show it to you and you can see what one person can do, is expose a whole lot of programming right here, with the potential of a lot observers to go 'aha'.

    Optimally a dozen people may walk away from this post, knowing what that program is and deciding not to perpetrate it because one person identified it.

    In reality a few people can energetically do lot.

    Making the decision to stop doing what everyone else is doing NOW is BEING a proactive magician. One claims their own self authority under their own intiative, if one waits to have granted by an authority figure, you will wait forever.

    Now it may not have the fix it all effect that programming for 'instant gratification' but instant gratification is another ptb program. But it does something to one's own self that raises one's vibration, because you are out from under the programming. You let one person out in the world with a higher vibration and that vibration starts breaking down programming on it's own because that person is not afraid to blow the program out of the water.

    If we are all waiting for the conforming agreement from everyone else, you are still dancing to the ptb tune. They COUNT on the fact we'll mill around stamping our hooves, waiting not for a maverick to follow but lots of them.

    In spirituality Majority does not rule.

    The best way to do anything is initiated something on your own, and let your own vibration be infectious. If we wait till everyone is on the bandwagon with us, we are going to be waiting a long time.

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    I don't think that a few of us just turning the other cheek to the olympics will help much.

    The masses are still sleeping fools who will all add their energy into the olympic ritual.

    Hence i said i think we need to find a way to be proactive magicians about this, and figure out how a much smaller crew can steer the mass-energy towards something positive.

    If those awake and aware magicians are of pure intent, our 'focus' or 'participation' on the olympic ritual will not add more of the same energy towards the ritual but steer it in a more positive direction.

    I do know that whatever we fight against gets stronger, what you resist, persists. So we should not try to 'battle' the ritual energy head-on with our own. I'm just thinking about diverting the energy towards a common good for wich we'd receive universal support. Law of one is with us on this i believe.

    I believe that the intent of an awake person setting a pure intent wich abides the law of one, will have a greater effect, than 1000 sleeping people participating a ritual unknowingly.

    I don't think that turning of the TV and staying ignorant about the ritual will accomplish as much as actively redirecting it. After all the TPTB sorcerers do know what they are doing AND they have most of humanity participating. What can a few awake people minding their own love&light business during those times possibly accomplish.

    But as i said we first need to find the best way to do this.

    ~Trail.

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    But having an emotionally raddled fit over the subject is doing the same thing, feeding the energy that one claims shouldn't be fed even more so than those who just shrug and say "It's Bull****".


    People can call bull**** without getting emotionally invested in their assessment. Those who are reacting to the assessment are feeding the energy. When a program is examined and called out, the program defends itself and then it punishes it's host.


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    Denying this ritual is very simple in theory. People will fark it up, guaranteed. Ignoring it is the big secret. Don't watch it on TV and while you're at it cancel your cable. Do not attend it, even if you get free tickets and seats next to the Queen. Without our slavish dedicated participation, they have a non-event. If the athletes woke up and refused to compete it would be really brilliant, but performing to empty stands would take all the juice out of the ritual. All the billions of dollars for advertising time would be for naught.

    This would be a major win for our cause, but it won't happen because people talk a good complaint, but are not serious. Unless seriously full of sh!t is considered serious.
    nice one modwiz.
    regardless whether people would f*ck it up or not....
    playing no part in it is the right way forward/

    what if there was a war and no one turned up = no effing war.

    so in that light, i wonder why it is, that the theme around here just lately,
    is for people to involve themselves in something that they state over and over again, is BS,
    and the strategy for vanquishing this beast..... is to add negativity to it.

    do me a f*****g favour!......

    it dont matter which side you're fighting for..... you still took part in the war.

    for, against, or balanced..... its all one thing
    to those who distract us with the game.


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    the bottom line is that the game is almost complete, omega point

    just have fun, who cares about the small stuff and love yourself and your neighbour. how hard is that?

    I am already home, oneness with my father mother God within my heart. Once the three days of darkness comes and we pass through the void, the real test begins. Be love, be light and transcend unwanted energy and consciousness.

    Prepare for the shift. The war is over. Bless the dark brotherhood, Bless Lucifer, Bless the white brotherhood. Bless Archangel Michael. Bless our controllers the Reptilians. bless our deceivers, the Grays. Thank you for the game. Thank you for helping us evolve and empower ourselves to be conscious co-creator Gods.

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    Everyone knows what a mass cluster****, on all levels from the material to the spiritual , Christmas is. We are agreeing to turn that into a frenzy. We participate in that even those who KNOW and are disgusted by what a cluster**** it is, keep participating in it, instead of simply stopping the participation. Or making it manageable. Because they are getting something out of it.
    Good stuff 9eagle9.

    The wife and I started getting weary of that whole deal 2 years ago, so I didn't even bother to go out and get a tree for the first time in my life that year. This past Christmas consisted of one family night, and then just us two having a short and uneventful little gift exchange. There was no cf.

    This change wasn't forced, and I think that is key with the energy thing, that the whole purpose just faded away like a sunset. If we stop just for spite of the energy vampires, IMHO we are still feeding them, just in a different language.
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    Quote Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
    [That's the way I've come to understand the nature of energy transference anyway. Cheer it you feed the beast, fight it you feed the beast. I think Inelia did a superb job way back when, of describing that delicate middle ground.

    Cheers,
    Fred
    this is exactly it... yet we must take responsibility to call a thing by its correct name. When you correctly name something then you have some power over it. In this case, as with Drake, the name is bull****. You start to loose your power when you become attached to the arguement, when you burn your time in meaningless diatribe. It sucks your energy and this is the intent in the first place. Lies, false predictions, fear mongering, - its all distraction to keep you from your center and from your own power.

    I think we need to remember that holidays and especially Dec 21 through the 25 are energy focusing events, that granted the PTB exploit, but these events are not the creation of the PTB. It is Sun/Earth relationship event and has been recognized by all cultures from the beginning, and utilitzed for its capabilty to charge, renew and awaken and remember who we are, as a child of mother earth born from her fertile relationship with the sun... a relationship that without, we would not exist in this current human form, nor all the other children of mother earth, her plants, her animals and her minerals.

    For those who do not fully understand this I recommend that you watch Zeightgeist the new edition, where in the beginning of the film they explore christianity and the winter solstice events and how this myth of Christ and the rebirth evolved.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

    of course any institution or belief system can usurp the power of a natural event... but for those who understand the event and can tune into the natural cycles of power they cannot be truely effected under that power, at least spiritually, by those usurpers.

    Solstice and christmas time is always a powerful time for me. I feel the energies of the cycles coursing through my veins and my spirit soars to to the joy of the return/start of a new cycle of light.

    You will make December 21, 2012 anything you wish to make of it. The masses will do the same. The subjugation to these natural cycle energies is almost unavoidable, as we are all made of earth and subject to its breath in and out on a yearly cycle, but it is in how one tones and qualifies the energy within their own personal dream, that is where the value can be found - or not.
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    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    But having an emotionally raddled fit over the subject is doing the same thing, feeding the energy that one claims shouldn't be fed even more so than those who just shrug and say "It's Bull****".

    People can call bull**** without getting emotionally invested in their assessment. Those who are reacting to the assessment are feeding the energy. When a program is examined and called out, the program defends itself and then it punishes it's host.
    thanks for responding.

    i think for me, it wasnt about the subject itself, but more the way people had decided to deal with it.
    as ive said before i'm not really fussed about drake or wilcock.
    i went into it balanced.
    in fact gripreaper, asked me... what about those who are neither for or against it (sorry for the misquote!)
    and i found that i was putting just as much energy into it, as everyone else...
    even though i wasnt polarised one way or the other.

    it was when a few started down the path of being openly hostile to it.
    genuinely, i couldnt believe what i was seeing.
    and some almost made it a policy to actively rubbish the subject.

    what i saw were people..... now i'm not going to say the word 'rules', even 'maxims' is too strong a word
    but the very basic respects that we show each other, and the regard we hold each other in, flew out of the window.
    reason was replaced by insult, and insinuation, and a host of other darkness's

    thats what i was frustrated about.

    no matter what bul*sh*t tptb throw at us....
    it stops working when we stop playing the game.
    when we fight it, or ridicule it. we provide it with continuity
    when really, tptb need to see that no matter what they try....
    it doesnt work...... they've lost us.

    its the mechanism behind the subject matter.
    the nature of the interaction...
    thats what i was looking at.

    people have a right to make up their own minds about stuff
    and not to have it made up for them.
    the right not to have someone elses wil imposed upon them.

    ive calmed down a bit now btw!

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    when i went there nothing happened!, i was bored out of my mind..................in the Twilight Zone.

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    You do have to do it for yourself, I did it year back because it was just bland and dull. But because of our programming if we do for ourselves its selfish--new paradigm and its new slave mentality-service to others--is tightly mixed up in here. "I'm going dress in a red suit and ring a bell out in the cold so people will give to a big conglomerate charity that has a very slim trickle down effect and is already supported by the contributions of the ordinary person " is servitude. A glorified slave mentality.

    so people are not inclined to go that route during a time of year when being unselfish is flaunted about. And I drank my way through five Christmas's in a row in the hopes it would give my in laws some personality before I thought "Your hereditary celebration this time of year is Yule, do that. " Feasting, fellowship, fire, to ward off the darkness and bring some light into the world." Why not I'm not a Christian so why was I involing myself in something that had nothing to do with me. Learning something about myself and where I came from in the process. Both sides of my family half thousands of years of non Christian genetics and the are trying to resonate to something that is

    That's her ****, she's doing that for herself. Anyone with half a brain understands that a person that lived in a half million dollar house doesn't need a towel that badly.

    Same as doing something out of any reason just to do it for your SELF, is not going to work. I like talking about this stuff because the way the ptb rule the world interests me. Knowing how they do that serves me. Because its all programs and illusions its not real enough to me to get emotional reaction.



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    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

    Everyone knows what a mass cluster****, on all levels from the material to the spiritual , Christmas is. We are agreeing to turn that into a frenzy. We participate in that even those who KNOW and are disgusted by what a cluster**** it is, keep participating in it, instead of simply stopping the participation. Or making it manageable. Because they are getting something out of it.
    Good stuff 9eagle9.

    The wife and I started getting weary of that whole deal 2 years ago, so I didn't even bother to go out and get a tree for the first time in my life that year. This past Christmas consisted of one family night, and then just us two having a short and uneventful little gift exchange. There was no cf.

    This change wasn't forced, and I think that is key with the energy thing, that the whole purpose just faded away like a sunset. If we stop just for spite of the energy vampires, IMHO we are still feeding them, just in a different language.

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    Quote Posted by D-DAY (here)
    Quote Posted by goinghome2012 (here)
    the bottom line is that the game is almost complete, omega point

    just have fun, who cares about the small stuff and love yourself and your neighbour. how hard is that?

    I am already home, oneness with my father mother God within my heart. Once the three days of darkness comes and we pass through the void, the real test begins. Be love, be light and transcend unwanted energy and consciousness.

    Prepare for the shift. The war is over. Bless the dark brotherhood, Bless Lucifer, Bless the white brotherhood. Bless Archangel Michael. Bless our controllers the Reptilians. bless our deceivers, the Grays. Thank you for the game. Thank you for helping us evolve and empower ourselves to be conscious co-creator Gods.

    peace and love

    "Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation." ~ Oscar Wilde
    we are the collective, we are one, just stating the truths, be love, be light, raise your frequency, transcend duality, it is over, my thoughts are your thoughts, peace

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    Anyone who has have a clue about natural energies knows that in order to transcend, and call in the light, and to arrange for new beginnings, one does not do that in the dead of winter. Its done in the early spring. You attempt anything transcendent on Dec 21 2012 its going to fail , its not the right energy, you don't invoke true life in the dead of winter. The ptb would like you to think this because you will just go back into another loop of reincarnation. You are choosing death, that is the time of retraction not expansion, death, not life, winding down , not starting up. Retreating not rising, that is the time of duality where darkness holds sway and you 'think' that somehow this is good timing for you to begin a new cycle of life.


    If you are going to do this, do it in the spring. Is three months going to matter? If it does, you are bit through the bag.

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    Anyone who has have a clue about natural energies knows that in order to transcend, and call in the light, and to arrange for new beginnings, one does not do that in the dead of winter. Its done in the early spring. You attempt anything transcendent on Dec 21 2012 its going to fail , its not the right energy, you don't invoke true life in the dead of winter. The ptb would like you to think this because you will just go back into another loop of reincarnation. You are choosing death, that is the time of retraction not expansion, death, not life, winding down , not starting up. Retreating not rising, that is the time of duality where darkness holds sway and you 'think' that somehow this is good timing for you to begin a new cycle of life.
    May be true eagle, but it seems to me to be limiting ourselves to just adhering to astrological cycles. You don't think our true infinite nature can transcend the limitations of the physical realms? The way I'm seeing it, this is the box TPTB are in, not us.
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    never mind.

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    Quote Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    Anyone who has have a clue about natural energies knows that in order to transcend, and call in the light, and to arrange for new beginnings, one does not do that in the dead of winter. Its done in the early spring. You attempt anything transcendent on Dec 21 2012 its going to fail , its not the right energy, you don't invoke true life in the dead of winter. The ptb would like you to think this because you will just go back into another loop of reincarnation. You are choosing death, that is the time of retraction not expansion, death, not life, winding down , not starting up. Retreating not rising, that is the time of duality where darkness holds sway and you 'think' that somehow this is good timing for you to begin a new cycle of life.
    May be true eagle, but it seems to me to be limiting ourselves to just adhering to astrological cycles. You don't think our true infinite nature can transcend the limitations of the physical realms? The way I'm seeing it, this is the box TPTB are in, not us.
    Of course we can transcend but the physical world is our spring board. We must come to terms with where we are, honor our physicality, love it and free ourselves from it all at the same time and from there we can move on... first in glympses then in all that we are. It is our destiny in this life or after death, either way.

    I beleive that true life can be evoked anytime, anywhere. In the dead of winter things are not dead. They only sleep in their potential. We call them forth through our living dream. After the 21st the light starts to return, the days start to get longer and the power of the sun starts to do its magic, which can clearly be seen in other parts of the world than the far north or far south. Our rythm and pace starts ever so slowly to change.
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    No one is talking about astrological cycles we are talking about natural forces that occur within all of us , that we are COMPOSED of, that the ptb perverts, and twists and represents falsely and the uses that perversion to deceive people with because they are ignorant.

    Like confusing creation matrix cycles with astrology?

    Thus far humanity not transcended that cycle of ignorance so what do you think?

    Stop thinking.



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    Anyone who has have a clue about natural energies knows that in order to transcend, and call in the light, and to arrange for new beginnings, one does not do that in the dead of winter. Its done in the early spring. You attempt anything transcendent on Dec 21 2012 its going to fail , its not the right energy, you don't invoke true life in the dead of winter. The ptb would like you to think this because you will just go back into another loop of reincarnation. You are choosing death, that is the time of retraction not expansion, death, not life, winding down , not starting up. Retreating not rising, that is the time of duality where darkness holds sway and you 'think' that somehow this is good timing for you to begin a new cycle of life.
    May be true eagle, but it seems to me to be limiting ourselves to just adhering to astrological cycles. You don't think our true infinite nature can transcend the limitations of the physical realms? The way I'm seeing it, this is the box TPTB are in, not us.

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    The best way to do anything is initiated something on your own, and let your own vibration be infectious. If we wait till everyone is on the bandwagon with us, we are going to be waiting a long time.
    I agree. But that is a little impractical right now. If i where to have control over the media i could easily start something and gain momentum quickly. But so far i started blurting out an idea to actively try to change the ritualistic energy of the olympics and i know that there's power in numbers.

    I could just sit at home, not watch the ritual, and meditate instead all by myself in a quiet secluded room, but that wouldn't have the posibility to be infectious. Since nobody is around to experience what i initiated.

    So i thought i initated a conversation on how to have the best effect and your input is great. I think its having an effect already

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    I'm still digesting this Q & A, but I think some of the topics covered in it apply here (thoughts/attention/unconsciousness).

    http://www.newphysics.se/archives/ol...ain-Report.txt

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    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    "People who can't manage themselves want an easy way out......."

    Why do people want an easy out handed over to them by others? What has coaxed them into thinking that their continued existence should be managed by external events?


    One hint. Re-incarnation.

    Why does the powers that be have such a vested interest in us continually re-incarnating?
    I wanted to revisit this post that hasn't been picked up on yet, especially that last question.

    Re-incarnation is the great forgetting. Tptb need our ignorance to accomplish their aims. If this truly is a genetic farm experiment, as some think, how much better and easier for them to progress than to have us coming and going lifetime after lifetime without memory of what has been lost. Lessons learned previously, now forgotten.

    Fear driven events, one after another, become a trap...some spend a lifetime struggling to find a way out....not remembering we have control of our own life energy.

    So it becomes a search for an easy way out...there's got to be someone out there that has got the answer...just grab on to their coattails for a quick trip out of here". No self-responsibility taken...no self-management needed. A lifetime spent as a battery.
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    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    anyone who has have a clue about natural energies knows that in order to transcend, and call in the light, and to arrange for new beginnings, one does not do that in the dead of winter. Its done in the early spring. You attempt anything transcendent on dec 21 2012 its going to fail , its not the right energy, you don't invoke true life in the dead of winter. The ptb would like you to think this because you will just go back into another loop of reincarnation. You are choosing death, that is the time of retraction not expansion, death, not life, winding down , not starting up. Retreating not rising, that is the time of duality where darkness holds sway and you 'think' that somehow this is good timing for you to begin a new cycle of life.


    If you are going to do this, do it in the spring. Is three months going to matter? If it does, you are bit through the bag.
    maybe a recycling and reincarnation for most and ascension for others.
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    How do they specifically collect/use/direct this energy once it is being produced? (I mean functionally, not to what ends.)

    I ask because if we know how they're building the energetic-structures maybe we'll have some clues of how to start tearing them up.

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    So if you want to ascend why are you not doing it under your own volition now? Because you don't know how. So when an ascension process is offered to you, you'd take it not even knowing if it was authentic. Because if you aren't doing it now, you wouldn't even know what was offered to you later.

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    anyone who has have a clue about natural energies knows that in order to transcend, and call in the light, and to arrange for new beginnings, one does not do that in the dead of winter. Its done in the early spring. You attempt anything transcendent on dec 21 2012 its going to fail , its not the right energy, you don't invoke true life in the dead of winter. The ptb would like you to think this because you will just go back into another loop of reincarnation. You are choosing death, that is the time of retraction not expansion, death, not life, winding down , not starting up. Retreating not rising, that is the time of duality where darkness holds sway and you 'think' that somehow this is good timing for you to begin a new cycle of life.


    If you are going to do this, do it in the spring. Is three months going to matter? If it does, you are bit through the bag.
    maybe a recycling and reincarnation for most and ascension for others.
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    The same way we do. There's other threads describing how they collect, use, and direct this energy and typically its through leveraging us. We in part do it for them.

    Threads on parasitical energies.

    Threads on removing parasitical energies.

    The Drake thread has a number of people tearing down that particular construct. You see the programming and you point it out. One also notes the reaction from those who want that construct held up. People are hooked in on an individual level so you can have a handful taking down the construct; but many more investing more investing energy in it. One can stop investing in the construct and dumping their energy into on an individual level but basically they use us to keep these constructs up.

    Like the Galactic Federation of Light Construct. Obvious and unmitigated parasitical energies but look at how many people not only feed that construct, they relish doing so because a false sense of empowerment.


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    How do they specifically collect/use/direct this energy once it is being produced? (I mean functionally, not to what ends.)

    I ask because if we know how they're building the energetic-structures maybe we'll have some clues of how to start tearing them up.

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