Jordan Maxwell debunked

[Unified Serenity]

I know, another guru and truth "researcher" debunked. It's not easy critically examining facts, but things are what they are whether I like the facts or not.

I have enjoyed many of Jordan Maxwell’s presentations. He is quite intelligent and engaging with a pretty funny sense of humor. I have learned quite a few things from him, but I have come across some extra information that reveals how he is working very hard to bring people into this New World Order in the Light of Lucifer. One he most reveres and appreciates of teachers is Helena Blavatsky of Theosophy fame. It is now quite apparent to me that his scholarship is very lacking, but his ability to apparently outright lie or misinform is what I would deem near sociopathic.


I ask you to avail yourself of this very straight forward presentation, and ask yourself if you are a real fan of his, has he been truthful with you? Why would you follow anyone who has not? I had this on another thread about how the teaching that Israel is really Isis, Amen Ra, and El is not correct. I think it deserves it's own thread, and let the chips fall where they may.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eKBCEBfIdCw

The video description:

Debunking Jordan Maxwell, The Movie Jordanus Maximus From http://nowheretorun.podomatic.com This is a film detailing the many mistakes and outright lies of Jordan Maxwell. After months of research and checking Jordan Maxwell's "facts" I found him to be a very deceptive and manipulative teacher. In addition to debunking many of his claims this films looks at his motivations and associations and shows that his philosophy is exactly that of the So called New World Order although its very cleverly hidden.


You will find his devotion to Theosophy includes naming Himself "Jordanus Maximus" I used to believe everything this man said. Not anymore. Does the sun die on the cross of the zodiac? Is the compass rose an acronym for "NEWS" Does Christ mean "oil"? Does anoint mean "sex"? Is God merely a volcano? Does the ark of the covenant represent the feminine ability to give life? Did King Solomon exist? Is the name Solomon derived from Sol OM On Does OM mean The Sun? Do we call turning on lights "on" because of Heliopolis? Does Solomon's temple represent sex? Was Manna in the bible psychedelic mushrooms? Where is the mushroom painting? Does mushroom art in the 1200 speak for Christianity? Does Judaism come from Saturn Worship? Did the Egyptians say the sun was setting because of their god Set? Does Yahweh or YHWH mean the building up and releasing of dynamic energy? And is it associated with sex?


Did Jordan Maxwell get His name from Blavatsky "Jordanus Maximus" and why is he lying about it? Jordan Maxwell calls for a new world order He says God communicates with us only through symbols He says the non-human/human hybrids are here and that they have a "divine right" to rule over us and that he is smart enough to accept it. He also says that these hybrids are going to reward him for understanding their symbols.


Some history about the Nephilim and the sons of god Jordan Maxwell describes his encounter with aliens Jordan Maxwell explains how he told these entities that he would do their will as long as the didn't come to him in his room or "abduct him" And he explains how this deal was later confirmed and they would "channel" through him. He describes his uncle and family in the Vatican and the mob and says they are one in the same.

[trenairio]

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[Jeffrey]

Posted by trenairio (here)
This criticism is from Chris White of Youtube, a christian fundamentalist, who tries to debunk alternative researchers that don't agree with his beliefs in Christ

Sorry. So the guy has a bone to pick, it doesn't mean he didn't do his homework.

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

and 126 dislikes... one thing about the 'tube' is that the likes/dislikes are usually spot on.

I love Maxy - he rocks!

Re: Christians/fundos - we have to bridge the gap by finding common ground. More of what we agree on , rather that what we do not agree on. Start with love, no war, peace on Earth - they all agree on this - it's a small start. But debating or arguing with religious blind faithful does no good. If anything it backs them into a corner that affirms their need for religious dogma.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by trenairio (here)
This criticism is from Chris White of Youtube, a christian fundamentalist, who tries to debunk alternative researchers that don't agree with his beliefs in Christ.

Chris White has also made a companion video debunking David Icke.

[Jeffrey]

It's probably because David Icke tried to debunk the historical Jesus Christ, and I'm sure David Icke's research had nothing to do with him realizing he wasn't Jesus Christ.

[Carmen]

Right!! Who else can we bring down today? Must be someone else out there who we will all just love to hate! Cripes this place is a negative, attacking 'free for all' at the moment.

[SKAWF]

Posted by trenairio (here)
This criticism is from Chris White of Youtube, a christian fundamentalist, who tries to debunk alternative researchers that don't agree with his beliefs in Christ.

i thought i recognised the voice.

also, i'm fairly sure that at no point has jorden said that christ was anointed with sexual fluid.
in fact i think i got it from one of his vids or lectures that its the fat of the nile crocodile they used.

and then to try and debunk the middle syllable of solomon!,
by saying that OM isnt related to the sun is a bit much.

i rate the info that maxwell pus out at about 85-90% reliable .
he did his research the hard way, and for years.

there's not enough in the above video to discredit a lifes work imo.

steve

PS i watched the vid all the way through

[woodshreder]

....
After nearly 6 years of being a member of the PC and PA family...I have come to the conclusion these once special sites shared by those of us who shared a determined purpose, have been overthrown by a few provacatuers by using a simple divide and conquer strategy . The same type of souls who have kept the war drums beating for hundreds and hundreds of years seem to have infiltrated us and pushed some of the best minds away from this forum. I think we need to not engage these souls for they are not worth our time or effort It just turns positive energy into negative .Think about it next time someone provokes you into a response
.......Peace Always Peace.....

[Unified Serenity]

And, I wonder how many of you who are offended by this thread watched the video I shared. I doubt any of you did. Jordan Maxwell most definitely did make those claims, it's in the video, and so much more of his claims which are outright twisting of facts. If you can't be bothered to watch the video and deal with the facts therein then you are just reacting emotionally to something you think without regard to information given. One cannot discuss intelligently what one is ignorant of.

Again, facts are facts. I might not agree with everything this guy has ever said, I haven't watched it all, but this video is very revealing. I do not think you can accuse him of lying, he is using Maxwell's own presentations and not just snippets out of context.

[21CC]

I have learned a lot from, and my interest in specific topics piqued by, J-Max. Like anything, take from the experience what works for you and leave the rest behind.

[D-Day]

I haven't watched the OP video yet, so I can't/won't comment on that at this stage.

However, I just wanted to chime in and say that Jordan's consistent assertion that TPTB have total control/dominion over humanity and we are all destined to suffer their wrath never sat well with me.

I find his message and take on things to be very disheartening and disempowering.

I feel he is misguided and has misjudged/underestimated humanity's ability to overcome adversity.

Peronally, I hope his dire predictions regarding the future of humanity are not manifested into reality.

I also suspect he was infulenced by "negative forces" who showed him a future timeline and convinced him it was set in stone when in fact it was simply one of many potentialities.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

I look forward to the day when I have done work that is significant enough to be debunked by Mr. White. How else will I know that I am on the right track?

Now then, back to reading Blavatsky.

[Unified Serenity]

I have posted another thread dealing with MUFON and their discovery on how to stop alien abductions. I am sure it will upset some as well, which is not my intention. I wrote this on that thread, and feel it is appropriate on this thread as well:


Now, you can watch the above video and hear the facts presented that call into question much of what Jorden says. I do not like upsetting people. I know many here on Avalon would find that quite ironic because many do get upset by my views. It is not my goal in sharing my heart and views to upset people. I care about truth, and when I find information that seems worth sharing like the above video, then I will share it despite the fact that I know people do not like to have their apple cart upset. This thread on debunking Jordan Maxwell is not to just stir trouble. It's to examine what he teaches and put it in context of real research as given very succinctly and clearly which shows how tricky a wordsmith Maxwell really is. It's all factual, and people are already complaining that I have some agenda to cause disruption. Let me ask you this. You try to wake people up or help people and complain they refuse to look at facts about various conspiracies. They think you are nuts. They ridicule you for believing on one thing or another. I am in that same position here with those of you who refuse to examine the information I come across and share.

You are digging in your heals, making judgements about me, and not even examining the information with an open mind. No, your mind is already made up. So and so is a christian, or so and so debunked David Icke so this must be wrong. I don't agree with everything David Icke says, but that does not mean I can't gain knowledge from his experience and what he shares. I just listen carefully and use discernment for what does not ring true so I can examine it myself, and not just take some man or woman's views as gospel. I am not afraid of information because I believe the truth always wins out. How sure of your views and beliefs are you if you are too afraid to hear what is presented? It seems to me that you are just a little afraid there might be truth in it. Just like the sleepers who refuse to look at 9/11, Illuminati, Vaccines, GM foods, chem trails, you are afraid that maybe someone you hold in high esteem might not be all you thought. That is not my problem. That is for you to wrestle with. If Bill Ryan asks me to leave the forum because I present information that makes you uncomfortable, I shall. Until that time, I will participate and share what I find. We can discuss it politely, but please don't get into accusations and such. If you want to discuss the information, by all means. I find the emotional attacks are more revealing about those who do it than some perceived agenda some think I have. I post on a lot of topics and start threads on different subjects. I think my track record speaks for itself. I am a truth seeker, and I have no sacred cows except to treat one another with respect and due respect shall be given until you throw monkey poo in my area, I will give your poo back as politely as possible. Sound fair?

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by 21CC (here)
I have learned a lot from, and my interest in specific topics piqued by, J-Max. Like anything, take from the experience what works for you and leave the rest behind.

I agree with that, and I too have learned a lot from Maxwell, but I also learned tonight that sometimes I did not listen to him carefully enough. I seek truth and I don't care where it comes from as long as it proves out. That is why when I saw this video, I realized everything is not quite as it seems in his presentations.

[seantimberwolf]

I did not even bother watching the video i believe what i know to be true to me.

As for his david icke video it borders on embarresing, most of these FUNDOS (great word btw)
are embarresing to there faith i happen to be pagan so i guess my view is one thats quite negative of the church, but im almost certain that christ is looking down on his "children" saying

"guys you got it all wrong, come on!"

[centreoflight]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
I have posted another thread dealing with MUFON and their discovery on how to stop alien abductions. I am sure it will upset some as well, which is not my intention. I wrote this on that thread, and feel it is appropriate on this thread as well:


Now, you can watch the above video and hear the facts presented that call into question much of what Jorden says. I do not like upsetting people. I know many here on Avalon would find that quite ironic because many do get upset by my views. It is not my goal in sharing my heart and views to upset people. I care about truth, and when I find information that seems worth sharing like the above video, then I will share it despite the fact that I know people do not like to have their apple cart upset. This thread on debunking Jordan Maxwell is not to just stir trouble. It's to examine what he teaches and put it in context of real research as given very succinctly and clearly which shows how tricky a wordsmith Maxwell really is. It's all factual, and people are already complaining that I have some agenda to cause disruption. Let me ask you this. You try to wake people up or help people and complain they refuse to look at facts about various conspiracies. They think you are nuts. They ridicule you for believing on one thing or another. I am in that same position here with those of you who refuse to examine the information I come across and share.

You are digging in your heals, making judgements about me, and not even examining the information with an open mind. No, your mind is already made up. So and so is a christian, or so and so debunked David Icke so this must be wrong. I don't agree with everything David Icke says, but that does not mean I can't gain knowledge from his experience and what he shares. I just listen carefully and use discernment for what does not ring true so I can examine it myself, and not just take some man or woman's views as gospel. I am not afraid of information because I believe the truth always wins out. How sure of your views and beliefs are you if you are too afraid to hear what is presented? It seems to me that you are just a little afraid there might be truth in it. Just like the sleepers who refuse to look at 9/11, Illuminati, Vaccines, GM foods, chem trails, you are afraid that maybe someone you hold in high esteem might not be all you thought. That is not my problem. That is for you to wrestle with. If Bill Ryan asks me to leave the forum because I present information that makes you uncomfortable, I shall. Until that time, I will participate and share what I find. We can discuss it politely, but please don't get into accusations and such. If you want to discuss the information, by all means. I find the emotional attacks are more revealing about those who do it than some perceived agenda some think I have. I post on a lot of topics and start threads on different subjects. I think my track record speaks for itself. I am a truth seeker, and I have no sacred cows except to treat one another with respect and due respect shall be given until you throw monkey poo in my area, I will give your poo back as politely as possible. Sound fair?

Beloved Sister of Light,
you have a point there. I also got deceived by a so called guru. In India I learned that the demons have more knowledge than the gods. This is probably right to a certain point. I learned a lot from Jordan Maxwell, but would not exclude what you suspect about him. It is important to use discernment, specially when many friends and family members want to force us to belief something. On the other hand there is the "divide and rule" aspect. It is important to have good friends to trust and not let us divide by some difference of opinion.

Thank you
George

[D-Day]

Posted by seantimberwolf (here)
I did not even bother watching the video i believe what i know to be true to me.

As for his david icke video it borders on embarresing, most of these FUNDOS (great word btw)
are embarresing to there faith i happen to be pagan so i guess my view is one thats quite negative of the church, but im almost certain that christ is looking down on his "children" saying

"guys you got it all wrong, come on!"

Ah, a modern day Pagan, good for you Sean.

I'm curious though, what led you to the conclusion that undertaking a faith in Paganism would be a good path to follow?

When and why did you decide to label yourself as 'a Pagan'?

Do you feel being a Pagan defines who you are and what you're about?

I often wonder why people feel the need to choose a religion and to have faith in something outside of themselves.

I guess the whole idea of religion just never made much sense to me for some reason.

Ever since I was born I've always been a strong believer in Daniel Day, I have A LOT of faith in him.

Throughout my life he's always had my back, always had my best interests at heart, always been there for me... I kinda like the guy

I feel like I made the right choice for me, I guess you probably feel the same way too.

All the best

[jackovesk]

Jordan Maxwell debunked...?

I don't think 'Debunked' is the right choice of word..!

Let me give you the 'Average Internet Users' definition of the word 'Debunked'...

Hint - Its not like a Virus (False Positive) its more final than that...

It generally means some thing or some one is a Fake/Phony & (Full of Sh#t)

I think the 'Average Internet Users' definition does NOT apply one iota to Jordan Maxwell

Re: The 'Clip' which I have watched some time ago, does point out what appears to be some innacurate theories & research that has been (Hand-Picked) by a nemisis..? What's commonly known in the industry as a (HIT - PIECE)

It by no means has the 'Power' to banish Jordan Maxwell's (Full Body Of Work) into a black hole forever...

Jordan Maxwell has admitted he is by no means an Academic, but just a man who literally fell into the research of The Occult & Symbology by chance and association (Family)...

IMHO Jordan Maxwell is one of the 'Good Guys' who is nearing his return home...

I can quite confidently say "NO WAY - Is JM a Shill for the NWO...

Why...?

a) Because he would'nt even think of doing it in the 1st place..!

&

b) If he was a NWO Shill, Why is he so Poor...?

What's he, the only NWO Shill in the World whose NOT making any $$$Money out of it...

More to the Contrary JM is Poor because of his fascination with the Occult & Symbology...

[GCS1103]

Hi, U.S.-

I agree with 21CC- take what you feel is true for you and reject what you don't find credible. I have researched for over 20 years the UFO phenomena and listened to many interviews, videos, live presentations and had personal conversations with those involved in this field. Jordan Maxwell, being one of those people. It is obvious that he has spent a good portion of his life studying his field, but that doesn't necessarily mean his conclusions are correct. I learned some interesting things from him, but based on other research I have personally done, my conclusions differ from his. We all have the right to agree or disagree with any of these people who present their case, so long as we research and study the subject to make an intelligent analysis. To say we "resonate" with someone, is not a basis to make an informed decision if we have not spent the time to look into what that person is purporting as "truth."

It is my opinion that some of the "truths" these "experts" are expounding on, are encouraged by entities/spirits that may not have our best interests at heart. To put it bluntly, there may be demonic forces involved that have guided some of these men and women in their work. I can use Steven Greer, as an example. Dr. Greer insists, without reservation, that ALL ET's are benevolent. He says this in all his seminars and interviews. All one needs to do is speak to a few abductees who have gone through hell and back to refute his claim. Where I once respected the work he did, I now put no trust in his claim that there are no negative ET's.

To have a difference of opinion on a forum such as this, is perfectly normal. I find our fellow members dig their heels in more than the average person who has no interest in these subjects. We all want to believe that we have found the "truth". In reality, none of us know for sure, what the "truth" really is. We can research, we can read and listen to people who have spent years working in their fields, but at the end of the day, no one here can lay claim to having all the answers. It's the proverbial rabbit hole- none of us have gone down far enough to come up and know, for sure, that we have all the facts.

Giving one's point of view, via videos, or whatever means, most certainly does not make them provocateurs. We, on this forum, don't all walk to the same beat. It's beneficial to listen to all points of view and then we can do our own digging to see what we come up with. I think Unified Serenity provides a good service here- she spends the time and energy to show other sides of those people we may like- or in some cases, put on a pedestal. I, personally, see that as a positive thing and hope she continues to add her knowledge and opinions to this forum.