Mirage Men: A Journey into Disinformation, Paranoia and UFOs

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Posted by Bill Ryan (here)


I just re-uploaded the documentary to WeTransfer for a friend... download link here (valid till 24 Oct)

http://we.tl/fVBJzuTtdX

Hmmm ... not that I have so far drawn any conclusions from watching it Bill, however, one thing is clear and that is the "Power of Human Imagination" !

[Bill Ryan]

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And now uploaded again, downloadable till 3 November:

http://we.tl/h9QDX82BA8

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Here's a permanent download link (in the new Avalon Library)

• http://avalonlibrary.net/Mirage%20Men%20(2013).mp4 (462 Mb, MP4 format)

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Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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what it does do though is gets Richard Doty, a notoriously slippery man to corner, in front of the camera discussing the things he has done, along with a number of the other significant players. The intelligent viewer will however ask why Rick Doty came forward willingly to be an interview subject for this documentary, given every move he has made on the UFO topic seems to have been precisely calculated to have a certain effect. He seemingly has no reason to offer all this information. So why is he doing it? And why does he admit to so much, but then deny involvement with Serpo when investigators seem to have caught him red-handed (via email IP addresses)? By the end of the film you'll be second guessing everything more than feeling as if your ideas have been confirmed, and perhaps that was exactly Doty's intent. And, if you want to get truly paranoid, you might start to worry that the documentary's creators go under the name 'Perception Management Productions' (echoing Bosley's description of the MJ-12 documents), and has within its ranks individuals who for many years have created crop circles as a type of art, and then sat back and observed as those 'anonymous' deceptions have engendered their own belief system and followers. Fractured mirrors and rabbit holes indeed...

Mirage Men is necessary viewing for anybody with an interest in either the topic of UFOs, or the role of government agencies in spying on and/or deceiving their own citizens. The former may be a specialised group, but the latter should include everyone. A highly recommended documentary – if your eyes weren't already open, they will be after watching this film.
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I watched this program recently, it is available on Netflix. It didn't look to me as thought Doty felt cornered while being interviewed at all. His disinfo agent hat was prominently on his head (metaphorically speaking).

Linda Howe said it’s been a long standing cover up story to tell anyone who will listen that the ufo’s being seen are being used to cover up advanced tech "when the truth is the opposite of the words". But isn't it in fact true in some of the cases? that was confusing to me. Later when she is speaking about the classified documents she was shown she seems to be saying that she believes, at the time she was being interviewed for the documentary that they were real, but isn't that rather naive? it appears to me she was being set up.

It also brought up the notion that the entire MJ12 thing as we have been told is fabricated, though it continues to be spoken about in alternative media as though it is fact.

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Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by AutumnW (here)
Let me get this straight. Doty of Project Serpo AND the Bennewitz fiasco? Did Greer not even do a quick google search of this dude before providing him with a format for ever more lying?

Yes, the same guy. Greer certainly knows all about him.

Doty does know (and sometimes talk about) some real stuff. But basically, he's an on-off disinformant, and always has been. That's the (designed) problem with disinformation: some if it is true, and some isn't.

The Mirage Men documentary is excellent — highly recommended. It's all about Doty, and the hall of mirrors he lives and works in.

• http://avalonlibrary.net/Mirage%20Men%20(2013).mp4

I would also treat this film with a degree of caution. One possible warning sign is in the opening title - "Perception Management Productions".

Richard D Hall did a cracking documentary about the film's authors John Lundberg and Karl Pilkington and their colleagues about whom he produces some pretty compelling explanations as to why he thinks they are fully paid-up disinformation agents, funded by Mi5 or similar. Your name is also mentioned Bill! About John Lundberg he says:

"Lundberg was probably recruited by MI5 in 1992. Since then he has been paid by British Intelligence continually. We believe that due to the anomalies about the property where he lives, MI5 have also been providing him with free lodgings in London since around 1995.

As many people know, Lundberg’s activities have been in making crop circles throughout the UK, and sometimes travel to foreign countries such as Italy, to trample down fields there too. We believe MI5 has funded these activities for almost 2 decades and have been giving him money to pay the rest of the crop circle team. There would typically be 5 or 6 in a team.

We believe MI5 made a big mistake in 2004 by paying for Lundberg to re-train as a film maker. This we believe was a gross miscalculation on their part and provides even more evidence that MI5 disinformation is what Lundberg is part of. If Lundberg was a true “artist” as he claims, why would he be interested in the “UFO” subject for his film making? His latest film “Mirage Men”, promises to be a superb piece of disinformation. He has managed to interview some of the top names in Ufology; namely Bill Ryan and Richard Dolan. These individuals may well regret taking part in this programme as MI5 and Lundberg seem to have set out to debunk them."

Richard D Hall thinks these people masquerade as genuine researchers when in fact their primary purpose is in sucking people in with the express purpose of being able to debunk and ridicule them and hence discredit the whole alternative media movement. Classic bear-trapping - the unwitting get sucked in, chewed up and spat out while genuine UFO and crop circle phenomena get forgotten about.

Please see this link for more:

http://www.richplanet.net/detail.php?dbindex=209

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Posted by happyuk (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by AutumnW (here)
Let me get this straight. Doty of Project Serpo AND the Bennewitz fiasco? Did Greer not even do a quick google search of this dude before providing him with a format for ever more lying?

Yes, the same guy. Greer certainly knows all about him.

Doty does know (and sometimes talk about) some real stuff. But basically, he's an on-off disinformant, and always has been. That's the (designed) problem with disinformation: some if it is true, and some isn't.

The Mirage Men documentary is excellent — highly recommended. It's all about Doty, and the hall of mirrors he lives and works in.

• http://avalonlibrary.net/Mirage%20Men%20(2013).mp4

I would also treat this film with a degree of caution. One possible warning sign is in the opening title - "Perception Management Productions".

Richard D Hall did a cracking documentary about the film's authors John Lundberg and Karl Pilkington and their colleagues about whom he produces some pretty compelling explanations as to why he thinks they are fully paid-up disinformation agents, funded by Mi5 or similar. Your name is also mentioned Bill! About John Lundberg he says:

"Lundberg was probably recruited by MI5 in 1992. Since then he has been paid by British Intelligence continually. We believe that due to the anomalies about the property where he lives, MI5 have also been providing him with free lodgings in London since around 1995.

As many people know, Lundberg’s activities have been in making crop circles throughout the UK, and sometimes travel to foreign countries such as Italy, to trample down fields there too. We believe MI5 has funded these activities for almost 2 decades and have been giving him money to pay the rest of the crop circle team. There would typically be 5 or 6 in a team.

We believe MI5 made a big mistake in 2004 by paying for Lundberg to re-train as a film maker. This we believe was a gross miscalculation on their part and provides even more evidence that MI5 disinformation is what Lundberg is part of. If Lundberg was a true “artist” as he claims, why would he be interested in the “UFO” subject for his film making? His latest film “Mirage Men”, promises to be a superb piece of disinformation. He has managed to interview some of the top names in Ufology; namely Bill Ryan and Richard Dolan. These individuals may well regret taking part in this programme as MI5 and Lundberg seem to have set out to debunk them."

Richard D Hall thinks these people masquerade as genuine researchers when in fact their primary purpose is in sucking people in with the express purpose of being able to debunk and ridicule them and hence discredit the whole alternative media movement. Classic bear-trapping - the unwitting get sucked in, chewed up and spat out while genuine UFO and crop circle phenomena get forgotten about.

Please see this link for more:

http://www.richplanet.net/detail.php?dbindex=209

The interesting part is that this project, I believe, had the purpose of debunking the whole UFO phenomenon; the result, didn't seem to be able to do that at all. I didn't get anywhere near the impression that the UFO movement had been debunked in any way. What it did indicate was the level of effort and the tools that these secret organizations use to mold the minds of people -- apparently motivated by the fear that some people get too close to the truth. Huge efforts and resources were used in the disinfo presented ... there had to have been serious motivation to protect some truth. If it were all about keeping "military aircraft" secrets from Russians or whatever, why not let people call them alien spaceships? Truth is hidden between the lines in that documentary, in my opinion.

Just bringing awareness of the level and types of tactics used by the alphabet agencies was a positive for that movie in my opinion.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
I didn't get anywhere near the impression that the UFO movement had been debunked in any way.

Right. It was actually extremely balanced. (But Lundberg and Pilkington, both of whom I spent some time with, are most certainly debunkers.)

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I should have mentioned more about the crop circle creations which Lundberg and Co were involved in which are quite superbly crafted but which are fakes nevertheless. I suppose this has had the unintended benefit of forcing crop circle researchers to be yet more discerning and observant. Rich Hall has a really good interview which explains the differences between fake and kosher crop circles in a detailed way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfEuhmR5bzk

This is Lundberg's crop circle site, which gives plenty of information on how they produce fabulously complex crop circle designs:

http://www.circlemakers.org/

These people are almost certainly part of a government disinformation campaign. At one point there was a link on the site which was a recruiting banner, which took you straight to a government recruitment page for MI5! They will often recruit students who are in their final year of university. 1992 is when Lundberg graduated from the Slade School of art, and his wikipedia page lists 1993 as being the year he started making crop circles - in order words, very shortly after leaving his college, which incidentally is next door to MI5.

This recruitment banner is no longer on the site, but if you right-click the website and select the page source, you can see MI5 still listed as one of the keywords!

I do believe that the GENUINE crop circles are extremely important and that government has known this for a long time, and that is why that particular team was inaugurated in order to pull the wool over the eyes of researchers so that they wouldn't be able to see EASILY which ones were genuine and which weren't.

The REASON for all this playing games is simple - we are not alone and never have been!

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Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
I didn't get anywhere near the impression that the UFO movement had been debunked in any way.

Right. It was actually extremely balanced. (But Lundberg and Pilkington, both of whom I spent some time with, are most certainly debunkers.)

FYI, Bill, I downloaded "Mirage Men" from the Avalon Library, but for some reason, while the video would play on QuickTime for Windows, there was no sound.

I have an Apple Tablet and I will try from that platform.

From Bill: I checked, and the audio's all there. On Windows (or even Mac, if needed), maybe try using the free VLC video player... it can deal with anything.

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Latest from Richard Doty...

Posted by Star Tsar (here)
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Richard Doty Makes A Surprise Call

Published 2nd February 2018

Tonight, Richard Doty, a retired Special Agent who worked for AFOSI, the United States Air Force Office of Special Investigation who was central in many events in UFO history...including Paul Bennewitz, William 'Bill' Moore and the Aviary...calls in to the show... although this was a surprise, what resulted was a conversation that lasted a full 90 minutes...without commercials... and to Richard's credit, he answered all of the questions that Jimmy asked... and whatever you may think about Richard Doty, an admitted and vetted disinfo agent for the Air Force...he did call in to the show and his answers must be studied...what is the truth and what is not??

Supporting Link: www.jimmychurchradio.com

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7cj_hhQ63lo

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Star Tsar (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7cj_hhQ63lo

Marvelous, important interview. This may well deserve its own thread.

Highly recommended. Jimmy Church did his best when totally ambushed by the unexpected call.

Doty talked extensively about the Paul Bennewitz affair, as he has done before, but what was NEW was his revelation that not only had Bill Moore (famously!) been co-opted by Doty at AFOSI (the Air Force Office of Special Investigations) to 'co-operate' by supplying information to them, but also Wendelle Stevens. (Wow.)

Doty explained that each AFOSI agent had been tasked to recruit a handful of people in the UFO community, and that he had two others who he was handling as well, whom he didn't name.

* BUT (!)

There were 122 AFOSI agents in the field, each tasked with the same orders — although some were working internationally (e.g. in Europe and elsewhere). So the total number of co-operating recruits in the community numbered between 350—500. Bill Moore was just ONE of them. Doty didn't know who had been recruited by all the other agents.

* AND (!)

The AFOSI weren't the only players in the field. The DIA and the FBI were also doing the same thing, and Doty stressed that the FBI had a really extensive operation.

So, OMG. No-one expected those numbers. This information is new. All this was in the 80s, but in that decade there was EXTENSIVE infiltration in the UFO community.

Church of course asked whether this was continuing. Doty said he wasn't in the loop any more, but he personally knew of two public names, currently active, who had been recruited. He implied that there must of course be many more.

Wow, once again.

After one takes a breath, that's no real surprise, but it was pretty interesting to hear it from the horse's mouth.

As always, Doty was friendly, affable, chatty and open. He always has been. (I knew him myself.)

More (in summary!) that Doty stated or clarified:

• There were two crashes at 'Roswell' (two craft: one near Corona, and another, discovered two years later in 1949, near Magdalena), and that one live ET had been recovered. And there were other crashes in the late 40s and early 50s as well.
• Paul Bennewitz was very much the architect of his own downfall, and was determined to believe what he did — even despite Doty's later attempted dissuasion. All this time, Doty was merely following orders, very low in the food chain as one of many AFOSI field agents.
• There would regularly be as many as 20 agents, from different agencies, attending every UFO conference.
• 'Falcon' (of the 'Aviary'), and famously showcased in the 1988 documentary UFO Cover-Up?: Live!, was Richard Helms.
• The MJ-12 documents that Bill Moore had acquired seemed to be genuine, and Doty didn't know how Moore had received them.

Church did pretty well on the fly. But OMG, I wish he'd had the presence of mind to also ask him the following:

• Why did he call in?
• Were the MJ-12 documents genuine that Doty famously presented to Linda Howe?
• What was Doty's actual role in the Serpo affair?
• What happened to the Roswell live alien that was recovered? What information was learned?
• What had he heard or learned about the Apollo missions, and the current Secret Space Program?

Again, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, and important.

[Star Tsar]

Dolan Dissects Doty & DeLonge!

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Richard Doty Makes A Surprise Call

Published 2nd February 2018

Tonight, Richard Doty, a retired Special Agent who worked for AFOSI, the United States Air Force Office of Special Investigation who was central in many events in UFO history...including Paul Bennewitz, William 'Bill' Moore and the Aviary...calls in to the show... although this was a surprise, what resulted was a conversation that lasted a full 90 minutes...without commercials... and to Richard's credit, he answered all of the questions that Jimmy asked... and whatever you may think about Richard Doty, an admitted and vetted disinfo agent for the Air Force...he did call in to the show and his answers must be studied...what is the truth and what is not??

Supporting Link: www.jimmychurchradio.com

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7cj_hhQ63lo

Episode 806 | Richard Dolan Breaksdown Doty & DeLonge

Published 16th February 2018

Tonight, we are going to break down the Richard Doty surprise phone call into Fade to Black on February 1st, 2018… and we will also discuss the recent Tom DeLonge/TTSA ball drop and fumble with their use of an image of a party balloon to raise funds and sell stock in his new company… we are joined in the later half by Steve Mera, live from the UK, who was the researcher on the original 'balloon' UFO pics from 2005 that DeLonge used as a 'real' UFO.

Richard Dolan is among the world’s leading UFO historians. He has written many classics for the field, including UFOs and the National Security State, A.D. After Disclosure, and UFOs for the 21st Century Mind, as well as ongoing booklets for his Richard Dolan Lecture Series. Richard has lectured around the world and has appeared widely on television, including Ancient Aliens and Hangar One.

Currently, he is the writer and host of the series “False Flags,” which appears on Gaia TV, and he is also writing a book on the same subject. He also hosts two radio shows: The Richard Dolan Show on KGRA and The Effed Files, and is the publisher of Richard Dolan Press, which features the work of many leading thinkers exploring alternative realities in our world.

Supporting Link: www.jimmychurchradio.com

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tVQfHq4QpFg

[Star Tsar]

Mr Doty on the Paracast...

Posted by Star Tsar (here)
The Paracast



Richard Doty | Mirage Man

Published 18th March 2018

Gene, Chris and guest cohost J. Randall Murphy present an exclusive interview with former Air Force intelligence agent Rick Doty, long regarded as one of the more controversial figures in UFO research. What about the claims that he was a government disinformation agent, that he may have been responsible for forging such documents as MJ-12? What about his efforts to feed fake information about alleged alien visitors to one Paul Bennewitz in the 1980s? This will be a forthright interview that covers lots of topics and leaves you wanting more. Richard served his country in the US Air Force and was hired by the Air Force Office of Special Investigation after attending an intelligence course taught by the DIA and CIA. He served at Kirtland AFB as a counterintelligence officer snd also saw duty at Nevada Test Site, Air Force Test Center, Detachment 3 and Groom Lake, Nevada.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6owS5JOuImA