Please review this notice carefully?? (Medical privacy notice)

[debbiegail]

"What!" I asked them, "Did you read this paper"? that you are asking me to sign"??

The response was mindblowing!! I happen to live on motorcycles... with my share of titanium rods and screws... but I would rather take a beating than go to see a doc, only this was a must, walking into this doctors office was a sicken feeling... as I sat down, this sweet little girl asked me to read this four page Notice of privacy practice (Effective date: January1,2009... so in my mind I here Alex say " sign nothing without reading every word...."

" What! the he**""... "I'm not signing this", so I asked this child , "have you read this paper"? She came across with this confused look...well, she said "No not really, maybe, when it came in.. I could see her looking for the fastest path to tell the doctor that this women just asked me a question that no one ever asked me before?

I spent only another second in that waitingroom... put in another room to wait for this doctor, after another twenty or so minute.. the sweetest man came in, interduced himself... the first thing out of his mouth was about that paper .. I asked him, "have you read this?" I felt sick when he looked at the nurse and said "NO!"

This is a little of what this paper said "The Heath and Oversight Commitee" Our practice may disclose your ( protected health information, or (PHI) to the federal officials in order to protect the president, and other officials or foreign heads of state, to conduct investigations. That's just to start of this, I will give away any and all of my rights just by putting my o k on this page, to please, come take me away.. I give you all I have?!?! "" I can't believe this"!! This paper (protects everyone" but me"! ) I had to put this four page paper in my other papers just to get it out the door,,

(No I didn't sign it) , do ya think that's the reason this doctor said he "couldnt help me"???

My husband said I was being silly about such a thing! I've been married 30yrs to this man and all we do is argue about, myself "waken up to things", I really like listening to Mr.Jones... and my husband hates that! I listen to Alex in secret now!!

I have no one to talk too, or read about , "But" you here at Avalon... "So" I feel ,I'm welcome to say ""I will be prepared"! "Thank You!!"

[Eligos]

I feel your pain...good thing you didn't sign. About your Hubby, he's just so in denial OMG!

[Maia Gabrial]

This is one of those things that we all NEED to know about. It sounds like another fast one being pulled on us. I'm getting sick of how far and wide the crap goes. IF you can post that paper on the forum, it would help us tremendously. IMO, any doctor that uses this deserves to lose business. And that's all patients are to them...
Wow! Thanks for sharing your story. Welcome to the forum. This IS the right place for you to be, debbiegail!

[Paul]

Posted by debbiegail (here)
"What!" I asked them, "Did you read this paper"? that you are asking me to sing"??

Welcome, debbiegail .

I added some paragraphs to your post, to make it easier for other members to read. Hit ENTER twice when entering a new post, to make paragraph separations.

Also I added the phrase "(Medical privacy notice)" to the thread title, so that readers scanning the list of recent threads, looking for something of interest to them, could more easily decide whether they wanted to read this thread.

There is quite a bit of material on this forum. We do what we can here to help each other find and read what interests us more easily.

Thanks!

[jackovesk]

Welcome to Avalon debbiegail,

Keep - Keeping on your 'Spiritual Journey' of 'Truth' - Don't worry about your husband, he'll work it out sooner or later..!

Have you ever thought about tricking your husband into watching 'Endgame' or 'The Obama Deception'..? They are the 2 Videos I recommend to the (I don't want to Know about Its) the 'Truth' in both the Docos is irrefutable & undeniable...

Good Luck on your 'Wake-Up' Project and remember the 'Truth' is the 'Truth' and nothing but the 'Truth' so help me God...

Rgs,

Jack

[golden lady]

Welcome Debiegail,
Well done you. If only everyone would "question". Going through LA airport in March I refused to go through the backscater X-ray, very politely of course, in my very best british accent. They were as nice as pie about ,no trouble at all.
As Jack said keep on seeking, even in secret, (same as me)
Love and peace
Carole

[Unified Serenity]

Welcome to Avalon Debbiegail! Great post btw. Thanks for sharing this information. It really would be great if you could take a picture of it and post it so we can forward this onto our friends and help them stay informed. Thanks for sharing it.

[Awakened]

Hi debbiegail, and welcome to the group!

Kudos to you for really reading that paper and refusing to sign it! As for your hubby? Well, sounds like he's still 'asleep'. As you awaken on your spiritual journey, you will be amazed when you look around you and see just how many people are still 'asleep', and so unbelieveably unaware of just what it is that's going on around them.

But, again, welcome to the group. You are among good friends here.

[debbiegail]

Sorry! I'm soo old school!! I wouldn't know how to put this four page (Medical privacy notice) to a post! " But I do know " (snail-mail)... I would be more than happy to get too anyone that would be interested in reading it!

[Unified Serenity]

If you have a cell phone Debbiegail, you can take a picture of each page and email it to yourself or upload the pictures to your pc. Then just do an attachment on Avalon and choose the pic from your folders, it would probably be easier than you can imagine, but either way, I am sure it will be out there. Let me ask you in case it is out there already, are there any form numbers on this paperwork? It sounds like a government document that I might be able to look up. Just the title of the document and any form numbers on the lower portion of the paper, usually left bottom corner.

Thank you

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I am looking for it now with what you have shared, so far I am on this page:

http://www.firstsuneap.com/privacy.html

It says in this section:

National Security
First Sun EAP may use and disclose your PHI to federal officials for intelligence and national security activities authorized by law. We also may disclose your PHI to federal officials in order to protect the President, other officials, or foreign heads of state, or to conduct investigations.

I am at another health benefits page now, and it appears this may be part of all disclosure statements at all doctors offices now.

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http://www.northcharleston.org/resid.../benefits.aspx

Protective Services for the President and Others. We may disclose protected health information to authorized federal officials so they may provide protection to the President, other authorized persons or foreign heads of state or conduct special investigations.

[debbiegail]

K... This paper has on it... As required by the privacy regulations created as result of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996..(HIPAA) But was put into Effect January1 2009... The thing is this personal info.. could be sold to anyone... And you give full permission the second you ok it?

[Wantsthetruth74]

Hi Debbigail and warm hugs and welcome. I so feel your pain. It could be your husband is more sensitive to mind controls via the tv, radio, and emf towers etc. I have for myself concluded that some of us, depending on our dna (maybe) are more prone to "knowing the truth", than others. My husband and best friend was awake at one time, (kind of) but has rebounded to 3D
sleepwalking. I am also targeted, therefor he is double targeted and fully controlled probably. It is a hard road to travel, but give him the benefit of the doubt, because more than likely it is out of your or his control. That is the way I choose to deal with it at this time. Again, welcome to the forum.

[PHARAOH]

I never sign privacy policy as it is more of a consent for full disclosure. The other day I took one of my children to the hospital for x-rays. They requested she place her hand on a scanner for security. I said, "NO". My wife then gave them her drivers license and we proceeded with no objections or complications. People have been conditioned and programed to go along or face embarrassment as everyone else has sheepishly complied.

What fools these mortals be.

[DouglasDanger]

What it sounds like is there was/is a confidentiality agreement doctors had with patients. They could not disclose anything you told them like a lawyers confidentiality agreement. Is it possible they are taking this away/having you sign it away, so doctors can cover thier rear ends should you be a lunatic and mention anything about killing or harming anyone?

[M6*]

Hang in there, debbiegail!

You are wise, indeed! M6*

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Hi debbiegail Thanks for your info... Horrible stuff However it is very nice of them they asked for your permission and allowed you to opt out

Your husband will wake up sooner or later Just leave him alone, don't try to "force him out of his slumber" and allow him to sprout in a Light of Your Love

Wish you both all The Best

[kcbc2010]

I really hate doctors who are focused more on "CYA" than their patient.

[Ki's]

I just finished an updated in-service on HIPAA ... basically, it protects your medical information from overly curious friends, relatives and neighbors and can't be sold or shared with marketers.
There is a list of exceptions to your privacy. Some are good. For example, it gives me, as a nurse, the right to report in the event of an apparent child, elder or domestic abuse situation.
It allows for sharing of information amongst other health care professionals to coordinate care.

However...(and isn't there ALWAYS an however) There is the ever present government insertion that if you....could be, should be, would be, might be, I don't like you so you must be....a terrorist clause.

The following is a list of exceptions that do not require patient authorization:

Uses and disclosures required by law

Uses and disclosures for public health activities

Disclosures about victims of abuse, neglect, or domestic violence

Uses and disclosures for health oversight activities

Disclosures for judicial, administrative, and investigative proceedings

Disclosures for law enforcement purposes

Uses and disclosures about decedents

Uses and disclosures for research purposes

Uses or disclosures to avert a serious threat to health or safety

Uses for specialized government functions, including for military purposes

Disclosures for workers' compensation

(ps...welcome to the forum, dg)

[Maia Gabrial]

I remember before I had surgery I had to sign this form that basically said that I wouldn't hold them accountable for anything that happened during surgery, like death. My brother had told me that I could just write after each item that "I don't agree to this" which was all of the statements. But now that I think about it, I did still signed the damn thing....

[Flash]

Welcome Debbiegail

Same thing happened to me last year at the hospital, endocrinology department. I came in, hand my hospital card to the clerk and she gives me a sheet to sign. I read it carefully and say "I will not sign this". It was giving all the information written on my medical file, plus blood tests., groups, et etc. to the research department of a university for installing a computerised system. On it was also written that the information could be given to government agencies or police if requested.

There was a machine, just beside the counter, with a guy supervising the patients going on it, the machine was for taking your prints (the 10 fingers plus palms).

So I refused again and the clerk said: in this case we cannot proceed with your appointment. To which I answered: you are telling me that you are refusing treatment because I do not want to be part of a research (illegal in Canada). To which the fingerprint agent said: no no madame, you can proceed, I just need the number on your hospital card.

To my amazement, there were about 70 people there and none had refused to sign. In fact, they were all looking at me as if I was from outerspace (the weirdo here). I went to sit and ask a few if they had read the sheet and realiised they were giving all of their profile to the police as well. I just had shoulders shrugs. I rarely felt so lonely with the sheeple.

Later on the doctor told me that the receptionist clerks hated to talk with patients and that the automation would allow them to do other work and us to have better service. In fact, some jobs went off because they were replaced with automated machines, however, I must say that since, the service is truly much better (they would not answer the phone prior to this for appointments, can you imagine).

I still haven't sign the form and I input my card number when I go in, not my finger prints.

So this is going on all over the continent it seems.