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    Default WTC 7 - 9/11's smoking gun

    WTC Building 7, a 47-story high-rise not hit by an airplane, exhibited all the characteristics of classic controlled demolition with explosive:

    Rapid onset of collapse

    Sounds of explosions at ground floor – a second before the building's destruction

    Symmetrical "structural failure" – through the path of greatest resistance – at free-fall acceleration

    Imploded, collapsing completely, and landed in its own footprint

    Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds

    Expert corroboration from the top European controlled demolition professional

    Foreknowledge of "collapse" by media, NYPD, FDNY


    In the aftermath of WTC7's destruction, strong evidence of demolition using incendiary devices was discovered:

    FEMA finds rapid oxidation and intergranular melting on structural steel samples

    Several tons of molten metal reported by numerous highly qualified witnesses

    Chemical signature of the incendiary thermite found in solidified molten metal, and dust samples


    WTC7 exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire:

    Slow onset with large visible deformations

    Asymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, to the side most damaged by the fires)

    Evidence of fire temperatures capable of softening steel

    High-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer lasting fires have never collapsed


    For more information, see the site below for the opinions of world-leading architects, engineers, physicists, etc.

    http://ae911truth.org/en/home.html

    Please direct anyone who doubts that 9/11 is a lie to this thread, or to the website linked to above.

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    Default Re: WTC 7 - 9/11's smoking gun

    It takes just one second to prove WTC 7 was not a natural "collapse." In the first 1 second, the top of the building fell 32 feet, and that is 100% impossible, proved by simple physics. That is the speed of free-fall acceleration. Only an object falling through air can achieve free-fall acceleration speed. Anything - bags of feathers, a pile cardboard boxes, and certainly broken concrete and steel - in the path would slow the building from free-fall acceleration.

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    Default Re: WTC 7 - 9/11's smoking gun

    Dennis,

    Free fall in the first second should be 16 feet using the value of 32 feet/second/second for the acceleration of gravity.
    S = 1/2 at^2 (if I remember correctly)

    I don't want to be a nit picker or know it all.
    Just want you to win your point with accurate info.

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    You are right Dennis, this is all that is needed. The site Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth has enough science to convince those of us who would see the truth behind all the brainwashing and personal psychological triggers and blocks.

    Ron, yes, terminal velocity (freefall speed) is not instantaneous. As an object accelerates, the drag force acting on the object likewise increases, so the rate of acceleration decreases until the drag force equals the mass of the object, and acceleration ceases. This is freefall. The drag force is dependant on the size and shape of the object. Evaluations of WTC freefall speeds take these variables into account. I admire the considerate way you replied to Dennis.

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    Rosie O'Donnell on Building 7 on The View



    This is a old clip that I had not seen before from 2007
    Very frightening views from the right wing 'blonde Bomb'
    Elizabeth...."Lets bomb them first" ..very scary ignorant
    view...Still pushed by some in mainstream. Rosie makes
    some good points especially about building 7....
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    Default Re: WTC 7 - 9/11's smoking gun

    Hi music, thanks for the references. You know, I seldom bring up 9/11 with people, because I remember so vividly how kooky I thought "those people" were not that long ago. If I do bring it up, I drop it once the person states that the way all 3 towers fell was perfectly natural. People hold very high stakes in what they view as "reality", and they will defend that view at all cost.

    I just hope that by me briefly going into the subject with them, and having credibility with them elsewhere, that one day they might be ready to prove the conspiracy wrong to themselves once and for all, rather than just assuming it's wrong. That's what I decided to do one morning back in early '09, and rather than put the issue to bed, my little world was turned upside down. No one could have ever made me look at it, I had to do it on my own.

    I'll refer anyone to those links if they ever ask about it.

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    Not to beat an old dog to death. But i thought id chime in again....
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    Service whos needs Larry?

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    WhiteFeather, once again you freak me out buddy. Synchronicity big time. I was educating my wife on Building 7 just yesterday morning/noonish and asked her to tell me before the conversation if this was a controlled demo. She has seen them first hand. She said it was. Then we talked about the alternative ideas of what happened on 911 and she was blown away, no pun intended. Then we moved on to the pentegon cruise missile topic after that. She was pretty angry by the end of the discussion that it was possibly an inside job.
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    Quote Posted by rmauersr (here)
    Dennis,

    Free fall in the first second should be 16 feet using the value of 32 feet/second/second for the acceleration of gravity.
    S = 1/2 at^2 (if I remember correctly)

    I don't want to be a nit picker or know it all.
    Just want you to win your point with accurate info.

    Hugs,
    Ron
    In the first 1 second, the top of the building fell 16 feet, and that is 100% impossible, proved by simple physics (if you can remember the simple physics!) hahahaha

    Thanks, Ron.

    Yes, the point is that it is impossible for any object to encounter resistance and still fall at free-fall acceleration speed.

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    I can't believe how naive the blonde on The View was. She epitomizes the sheeple.... I doubt that she would ever accept the fact that the US govt WOULD harm its own citizens....
    Here's the picture that got me to thinking something was not right about the official story....

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    I've never seen fire do that to a building. That's because something else was used here....

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